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Golden State Warriors at Indiana Pacers, Dec 17, 2008 4:00 PM PST


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After the '07 playoffs, even former Warriors started punking Dirk

 

Warriors (W-L): 7-18
Pacers (W-L): 8-16
Tip-Off: 4:00 PST
TV: CSN
Radio: KNBR 1050

Our mighty Golden State Warriors open up their 5 game road trip against the Indiana Pacers. The Warriors are currently 3-11 on the road so let's all pray that this road trip goes better than the last couple (0-5 and 1-2).

Indiana is struggling too. Not quite as bad as the Warriors, but they are having some problems. Fellow SB Nation blog, Indy Cornrows, opens the recap of the Pacers blowout win over the Washington Wizards

Is it really over?

The game, the losing streak, the late-game collapses, the excess turnovers and defensive lapses. Well, for one night anyway it appears the answer to all of the above is YES.

Question: Who's roster would you rather have, Indiana's or the Warriors'? With Indiana you get a real point guard in TJ Ford, a bonafide young scorer in Danny Granger, a guy who's averaging a double double, and when the second best player on the team comes back you'll have another guy who can score almost 20 a night.

Troy Murphy is having a nice season with his 11 and 11. Glad to see him playing well or at least putting up numbers. The other half of the Dunmuprhy Sisters is hurt and this game just won't be as much fun without Mike Dunleavy Jr. He's been injured all year and his timetable for return is always getting pushed back.

So if you watch the game, focus on Granger and Ford. Those two are what make the Pacers go. I'm also interested in seeing Brandon Rush, a guy I thought would have been a nice fit on the Warriors.

Hit the jump for a picture of Troy Murphy that will help remind you of him when he was on the Warriors.

 

Predictions

  • Warriors by 1
  • Pacers like to score and play very little defense too. This game will get into the 120's.
  • Biedrins goes bananas on Murphy and the Pacers frontline to the tune of 20-20
  • Brandan Wright and Anthony Randolph get to play in the first half.
  • Marquis Daniels lights up the Dubs

Star-divide

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I like the Marquis Daniels call

Though I’ll raise you a Rasho. That’s right, both are going nuts tonight!

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 17, 2008 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

My next Warrior Killer would have been either him or Jeff Foster.

by Fantasy Junkie on Dec 17, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Good writeup.

I’d definitely take our roster over Indiana’s. Our roster has huge weaknesses (laughable perimeter defense), huge imbalances (too many volume scorers) and three bad contracts (guess whose), but I think we have more aggregate talent than the Pacers do, and that matters. I think a GM could take the Warriors’ roster and, through trades and possibly a coaching change, create a playoff-calibre roster… not a particularly good one, but a sixth-seed-type roster. I’m not convinced that that’s true of the Pacers.

by onlxn on Dec 17, 2008 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

I think we have more aggregate talent than the Pacers do,

 aggregate talent? usefull for road building but not much good on a wood floor.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 17, 2008 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

True… hard to like the team the way it’s currently constructed. But there are things that could be done, with the right people making the decisions. Sadly, I doubt Robert Rowell is one of those people.

by onlxn on Dec 17, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Def Dubs

I would take our lineup over Indian’s 8 days a week.

I feel like Indiana is going nowhere. They have enough talent that they don’t change anything, but too little to ever actually be successful. That’s a crappy place to be in. They are stuck in mediocrity.

Whereas we suck, but have high hopes for the future.

by bradyk2 on Dec 17, 2008 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

Looking for the positives

Back before We Believe, the only way I survived watching the Warriors was because we had one positive to look for, JRich. Watching him grow, learn, and occasionally pull off a highlight reel moment made the Warriors losing more bearable.

Tonight, I’ll be looking at Marco, Biedrins, CJ (well, from where he was last season, he’s been a positive), and Turiaf.

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

CJ not playing tonight because he is attending his uncle’s funeral in Vegas….

by wander7 on Dec 17, 2008 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

hmm, one less positive to look for. Oh well, not much else I can do.

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a few other positives to look for...

Jackson finally playing well. Crawford showing why we traded for him. Nellie playing BWright or Randolph. I have faith that one of those things has a possibility of happening.

Anyone else feeling either Randolph dunking on TMurph the way he did to Yao, or Beans facializing Murphdoody like he did against the nuggs?

by bradyk2 on Dec 17, 2008 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

i agree

i think our team has potential if we play the right guys and jack gets out of his slump

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Tonight, I’ll be looking at Marco, Biedrins, CJ

  and you realize that if they ever get as good as JRich their next stop will be outta here to give their money to a new crop of rookies?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 17, 2008 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

cj isnt even playin

demarcus williams will be tho

im lookin for jack to get out of his slump, or be taken out early…lookin for kurz/wright/randolph to get a lot of play time…and morrow get at least 10 min, with passing to him, to try to get his shots down, if not pull him

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just saw this stat

In the last 3 games, Stephen Jackson has been averaging 8.0 points a game and shooting 14.6 percent (6 of 41).

Is anyone else just a BIT alarmed by that?

14.6 PERCENT?!?!?!

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Dec 17, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

people have some major slumps…only problem is usually coaches will pull them earlier so that stats dont get so bad.

jack will get out of it, stuff like this happens. blame nelly for tryin to force him to shoot his way out of the slump

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I maintain...

…that people are too hard on Troy Murphy. He had a very productive, solid career for us here. It seems like because they got similar contracts and were both awkward looking white guys, people lump them together.

by Zack Vank on Dec 17, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone got a stream link?

Hasheem "The Dream" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.

by ejdacanay on Dec 17, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

hey

http://www.justin.tv/cheez333 link to game

Everything rhymes with Belinelli.....Right?

by riceisnicee on Dec 17, 2008 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

this guy tends to switch channels a bunch

but also is one of the few to put the dubs online, so, keep that in mind…

by tvargs on Dec 17, 2008 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

no

no he’s showing all warriors today except the halftime show i asked him

Everything rhymes with Belinelli.....Right?

by riceisnicee on Dec 17, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

well then

i WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT

by tvargs on Dec 17, 2008 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

boy wouldn't it be awesome

if we

a) played defense

b) did not jump before passing the ball

by tvargs on Dec 17, 2008 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

I think SJax is getting the message

But I’ll have to wait a full game to really see if he’s letting the game come to him.

by lightz0ut on Dec 17, 2008 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

I predict there will be a small stretch where he starts getting stubborn

and tries to drive through several defenders, lose the ball, then complain to the refs

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

please

more wright, more randolph, hell even more morrow
please no more than 35 mins for jax!

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

yes please

30 mins is fine.
Also rest Beans when he is tired! I remember that Houston game where he looked so exhausted and still worked hard but Nellie wouldn’t sit him down

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Cmon, stop the ball

don’t let them drive all the way in

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

Bebot

behind the Warriors bench

by lightz0ut on Dec 17, 2008 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

Oh some notes

-I like the Alternate Road Orange Jerseys better than the regular one.
-Jack is getting booed…(i hear it or is it just me)
-Why is Wright and Randolph still on the bench

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

Marco

not doing so hot.

Hasheem "The Dream" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.

by ejdacanay on Dec 17, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

no way bros

still 3 quarters to go, if we had wright and randolph in with beans, morrow and crawford – theres a lineup to take the game away

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Please play BWright and Randolph

we would win this game!

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

omg i wanna go home. i wanna watch the game!!! stupid work. =(

by GS_FL connection on Dec 17, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

what are the odds...

that’s the last of Wright we’re gonna see this game

by lightz0ut on Dec 17, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

nothing

that’s exactly why Nellie won’t play him. lol.

by lightz0ut on Dec 17, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm really scared

you might be right ( absolutely no pun intended)

by KeepdaCore on Dec 17, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The only thing that comes to my mind

after watching the Warriors games these last games is the Late 90s, early 2000s Warriors that used to win 17 or 19 games… We fall behind big early, then try to comeback and end up losing by 15 + every game… Its really back to WE SUCK MODE
I really hope that when Maggette and Ellis return we start playing better because this is really becoming disgusting

F**K REFS

by faetati on Dec 17, 2008 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

they're killing us on the boards

A Randolph knows how to clean the glass. Maybe he should get on the court!?

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

BWright!

Thanks for the garbage cleanup

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

Remember

When Nesterovic was good?

We might see a flashback tonight.

by lightz0ut on Dec 17, 2008 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

+1

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

I hate how the refs try to piss off beans

it’s been like that all year

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

Jeebus put a hand up at least

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 4:53 PM PST reply actions  

sigh

we have to contest shots

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

79

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

75

listening on radio – that’s some terrible music at conseco. “larger than life” and “toxic”

by exl on Dec 17, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

well i guess we were all wrong

they only made it to 68

68 points. in the first half. ugh.

by tvargs on Dec 17, 2008 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

worst +/- at the moment

Jackson -17
Turiaf -15
Buike -12

best – Wright +8, beans +4

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

need to get marco the ball

he has not be involved in offense so far they couuld use his scoring

by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 17, 2008 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

too many guards is the problem

beli needs to be ball handlin, but with crawford, jax, nelson all gettin time…

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

finally

time to go home and watch the game!

by GS_FL connection on Dec 17, 2008 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

Jim Barnett calling plays before it happens?

just imagine what kind of coach he will become!

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

seriously

why are we not contesting shots?

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

ronny

is stuffin the stat sheet tonight

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

over here in Perth, Australia

it is 10:12 AM :(

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

good morning! :P

I’m lucky i got to leave work early to watch the game, but I’m going back to the office after the game

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

my work

sadly blocks nba.com, espn.com, and justin.tv, plus other live media streams
so im getting box updates and play by play from sf.gate and my fix of discussion here :)

thizz-a-lot – i moved from one of our larger cities (2mil people haha) about a hour away to a town of 9000 people – we built a brand new house and we’re still gettin bog ol spiders hahaha

u guys all from oakland area?

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome

any of you guys 2k9? ;)

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

nba 2k9 on ps3?

i dunno, my brothers getting it for me for Xmas, and reckons it rocks, cant wait to take the dubs through a winning season =]

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

no matter

its the only fix of ball i can get all the way out here at the moment :[

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Marco is a true PG lol!

well he is just a team player and not selfish unlike Bukie and Maggs

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

+1

we need someone with that sort of programming rather than a team full of scorers/shooters

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

beans

not having one of his better games?

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:23 PM PST reply actions  

Wowowow

Marco, with a hand in his face, turn around shot, tie game!

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

Belinelli

so good! True PG man!
Now Bring Wright and Randolph in

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

WOOT, JACKSON

hes commin back to life with his strong defense, totally feeding his offensive conbfidence

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

OMG

We’re winning!!!!!

by T-Money on Dec 17, 2008 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

Huzzah!

Bukie!

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

Well, they're in there somewhere

I’d wait for a few games to see if they get consistent

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Just popped in to the thread

How’s everyone looking tonight?

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 5:41 PM PST reply actions  

We started the game 9-0,

then got down 9 later. We were more aggressive this quarter, slowing them down, now it’s a close game

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Good, good

Aggression is something we’ve been lacking lately.

It’s nice to hear that there’s a fire underneath us tonight.

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

beans

should be reasonably fresh for the 4th?

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

95 - 93.. we have a chance

definetly. i think warriors will come together, lets just get belli some play time. as much as demarcus is awesome i can’t see him play any of the 4th

by itzlilgx23 on Dec 17, 2008 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

Good thing TJ Ford isnt in

or this would be a nightmare lol

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Dec 17, 2008 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

lineup for the 4th:

beans
randolph
crawford
jackson
buikie/marco

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

no way

nelson would put in randolph ice cold

beans
crawford
jack
bukaki
marco

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

3 against 1

and the one gets the rebound. freakin horrible

by Gurthy on Dec 17, 2008 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

Aww come on Marco

We don’t need mistakes here in a close game

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

come on

lets clean this sh!t up and have a crack

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Ahh missed layup

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Dec 17, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Belinellie!

true PG!

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

How long could Belinelli have been running point for us again?

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Dec 17, 2008 5:49 PM PST reply actions  

Belinelli has got a bright future

Just think he’s barley played a handful on games where hes gotten 10 min or more

by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 17, 2008 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

I just got home from work

are we actually passing the ball? and is Bellinelli actually playing like it’s summer league?

by qin on Dec 17, 2008 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

Marco showing he belongs in the NBA.

all he needed was alittle confidence and now it looks like we got another good player in the rotation.

by GSwarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

agreeded.

how can my coworker hate on rambo. he’s doing some savage stuff, really coming through for us tonight. go belli!

by itzlilgx23 on Dec 17, 2008 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

frack

and I frackin miss it

by qin on Dec 17, 2008 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

Man, Granger's a beast

imagine him in our system. I’m drooling at the thought lol

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 5:54 PM PST reply actions  

Spice Girls.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Dec 17, 2008 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

lol

man they play some gay music in that arena.

by GSwarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:56 PM PST reply actions  

Morrow!

at the shotclock buzzer, assist from JIm Barnett, who helped to get 1 extra second on the shotclock

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 5:56 PM PST reply actions  

MORROW!!!

CHOCOLATE RAIN! WHOOOO!!!

by itzlilgx23 on Dec 17, 2008 5:56 PM PST reply actions  

For the most part

Belinelli is playing very impressively

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Dec 17, 2008 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

AH MAN!

what a stab to my pride!

by itzlilgx23 on Dec 17, 2008 5:58 PM PST reply actions  

Granger is tearing it up. (i got to give him props though, we went to the same college.)

by deto725 on Dec 17, 2008 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

Granger + TJ Ford =

Big trouble

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Dec 17, 2008 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

Crawford from the corner with the 3

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 6:01 PM PST reply actions  

man...

i wish the warriors played like this every night. the threes really comnig through tonight.

by itzlilgx23 on Dec 17, 2008 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

hit these clutch free throws!!!

KILLING ME. my manager made me turn off the radio stream. hogging bandwidth which i think is a JOKE, its been slow all friggin day!

by itzlilgx23 on Dec 17, 2008 6:03 PM PST reply actions  

why is nelson in the game?

by deto725 on Dec 17, 2008 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

He's not anymore;

Bukie’s in for him

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The Clutch Frenchman

Nailing the foul shots. Time to pick it up

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

Put Wright in for rebounds

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Send him to BALCO

He’d be a pimp with a some extra meat

by T-Money on Dec 17, 2008 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

but that’s one of the things he doesn’t do – at least defensively 7:15 minutes, 0 defensive rebounds.

by the evil monkey on Dec 17, 2008 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

the warriors never get the calls.

by deto725 on Dec 17, 2008 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

We are going to loose!

I just feel it

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

*lose

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to load up

redtube vids now.

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

yep

see you guys in redtube, xhamster and whatnot

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 17, 2008 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Game over....

All your base are belong to us

by Deimos24 on Dec 17, 2008 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Lottery Bound.

What a joke of a season and its only December…

by Jagz8 on Dec 17, 2008 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

Belinelli...

…is working his ass off. So is Andris.

Pathetic defense.

by Zack Vank on Dec 17, 2008 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

steal

come on

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by warriordownunder on Dec 17, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

eehh

tease, we suck!

brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 17, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

Granger

Warrior killer

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Dec 17, 2008 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

i am convinced that Nellie is trying his hardest to get fired.

by deto725 on Dec 17, 2008 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

Oh well, close game

not as painful as some of the other losses

by IQofaWarrior on Dec 17, 2008 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

It goes deeper than not playing young guys...

This is just not a team right now, rather a group of individuals who seem more and more disillusioned as the season goes on.

by Jagz8 on Dec 17, 2008 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

I wonder...

…if Don Nelson will think to himself, “man, we need to play better defense!”

Probably not.

by Zack Vank on Dec 17, 2008 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

nope

it’d be nice, tho

by tvargs on Dec 17, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nelson 20, wright 7 Randolph 0

Go to the D league and get 20 minutes tonight, send Randolph to the D league if you dont want to play him

by btowne45 on Dec 17, 2008 6:34 PM PST reply actions  

So...I really liked what i saw that game

-jack played excellent D, which led to more confidence and better O
-Azabuki played great D and O
-Beans dominated while he was in
-Turiaf was a beast on the defensive end
-Demarcus was excellent at the point, playing very good D and goin for the boards…i see a lot of potential in this guy, he could be exactly what we need for the point (oh and btw…wow he was soo much better on the fast break than CJ…and like 100x better on defense)
-Belli had the best NBA season game of his career probably, was excellent both offensively and defensively
-Crawford was a beast offensively until the 4th quarter, where he was much quieter
-Morrows limited time in was amazing, he provided an offensive boost and really put a lot of effort on the defense, making some clutch steals/blocks/rebounds
-Randolph/Kurz…where were they?? DOG HOUSE :(

overall we played pretty good on the defensive end, we showed a lot more chemistry on the offensive end with a lot of passing/gellin…so i loved the game, the outcome was a bit disappointing, but i really was happy with what i saw this game!

hopfully we can continue this play…and keep it up when ellis comes back…cuz if ellis is playin well with the team i saw tonight, we’ll be just fine :)

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 9:26 PM PST reply actions  

Not our worst night, but that only speaks to how brutal the season’s been. We were playing a bad team missing two of their starters (three if you count Dunleavy), and we lost.

I don’t really have any beef with anybody’s performance. Jack had a solid game again at long last, and Marco played well… Biedrins, Turiaf and ‘Buike were solid. Really, everybody played okay. Actually, Jamal Crawford is the worst defender I think I’ve ever seen, and his scoring isn’t nearly as effective as it looks. Forget Gerald Wallace — I’d rather have Malik Rose than Jamal Crawford. Or Al in a suit, looking grumpy. Jamal Crawford is a horrible fit for this team. But he wasn’t horrible in this game, and I can’t blame Jamal Crawford for tonight.

Nellie’s starting lineup featured Biedrins, two of the worst defensive guards in the NBA and two swingmen, Jack and ‘Buike, who are really probably shooting guards. Nellie decided that even though we were playing against an injured, tiny team, that we might as well give them the advantage on rebounds and points in the paint. Nellie decided that Brandan Wright didn’t merit a look till the middle of the 2nd, then decided that he didn’t merit a second look, even though we were +8 when Wright was on the floor. Nellie decided that the bench cure for our ills couldn’t be Wright or Randolph or Kurz, couldn’t be anyone who could stop three of these tiny-ass Pacers from getting 11 rebounds… Nellie decided we flat-out needed 20 minutes from DeMarcus Nelson. I mean, this has become comical.

There are arguments about Nellie’s current coaching job that I could accept. I could buy the idea that he’s been ordered to tank. I could buy the idea that he’s been told to showcase a couple of our forty shooting guards for trading purposes. But I can’t buy the idea that he’s coaching this team smartly. Night after night, he plays four smalls, and night after night, they get smacked around. It’s absolutely embarrassing.

Bring it on, Nellie-defenders. Tell us why he was smart to only have two big guys on the floor for seven minutes, even though they were seven of our most effective minutes. Tell us why Nellie was brilliant for creating a Crawford/Belinelli defensive backcourt that made Jarrett Jack and Marquis Daniels look like All-Stars. Tell us why it’s not Nellie’s fault that we lost to a badly undermanned, unorganized team, that didn’t have nearly the talent on the floor that we did.

I’m not hating on the players. I love the players. They played well enough to win tonight. Unfortunately, they were used in a way that made winning impossible. They were coached into oblivion.

by onlxn on Dec 17, 2008 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

yep, nelly sucks

and dont blame crawford…he works best with the right lineups…and nelly didnt provide him that most of the time he was playin

by DeepS on Dec 17, 2008 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

can we go ahead and trade Maggette for anyone

by Marco Belinelli on Dec 17, 2008 9:49 PM PST reply actions  

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