Trade Rumor: Felton for Wright or Randolph
by jmaaan on Dec 18, 2008 9:50 AM PST
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PrintRay Felton from Charlotte for a package including either Wright or Randolph.
This, according the the Charlotte Observer: "The Warriors and Bobcats have had discussions about Felton, an NBA source told the Observer, and the Warriors appear open to giving up either Randolph or Wright to make a deal work"
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/421713.html
I, for one, have long thought that Felton would be an obvious target for trade. First, the Bobcats drafted Augustin with the 9th pick, leading to the obvious issue of two starting point guards. Second, most NBA teams don't have point guard depth to trade. Third, the Bobcats have lots of other needs. And fourth, they didn't extend his contract, making him easier to trade.
I've also thought the W's would be a good destination. He's very fast, probably as fast as Monta. He's a good ball handler. He's a very "pesky" defender, which is to say he's a strong defender in most areas but lacks height and can be posted up. He's a true 1. He's great in transition. He's great with the pick and roll. He can get to the hoop and he can create for other players.
This is exactly what the W's are lacking, IMHO. Additionally he's young but mature. The obvious questions are 1) Is it an equitable trade, or, are we giving up too much; 2) how will he fit with Monta, or, isn't that a really small backcourt?; and 3) Is there enough playing time in our backcourt, or, how many freaking smalls do we need?
Personally, I say make the trade, I really like Felton and think he'd be a good fit. I think Nellie could use his offense again, we'd have a very fast backcourt, we could start running again, and he fits in with a long term youth oriented approach. Charlotte's gotten good production out of him and Augustin in the backcourt at the same time and Monta is not a 1, he's a 2. Finally, it provides more incentive to trade one of our swing men who make a lot of money and duplicate each other. I say, make it happen!
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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what are we supposed to do with all these guards?
PG- Felton, CJ, Williams, Nelson
SG- Monta, Jamal, Marco
SF- Stephen, Kaz,
PF= Corey, Anthony, Brandon, Kurz
C- Andris, Ronnie,
The problem is not the lack of a veteran point. It’s lack of bodies (large ones). Yes, Raymond is a little chubby, but he doesn’t really rebound, and he shoots a terrible percentage- NOT what the warriors need. Warriors fans need to write this season off already and seriously develop their young talent (you may want to turn off your TVs for this).
Let it ride for now, but if we can package GWallace and Felton, for Corey and someone- I’m for it! Actually, I would be willing to do a Camby trade and get rid of Corey for nothing more than a hot dog and a soda.
by NaturalBornBaller on Dec 18, 2008 10:03 AM PST reply actions
+1
The Warriors front office can’t possibly be dim enough to make this trade. Rubbish rumor.
by fuller over bryant on Dec 18, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Just wait...
If it’s part of a bigger deal that involves Maggette, Wallace and possibly others it not be bad. Felton and Wallace are good compatible players plus a trade like that would help the salary situation a little. But if we just add more guards for power forwards then F**k.
by T-Money on Dec 18, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
i think anyone logical would add wallace for maggs, but with the warriors front office its hard to tell…
by bgamehizzle on Dec 18, 2008 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
horrible trade
if warriors do this i am going to stop watching the rest of the season.
not only does this not solve any problems but this mean we’re not longer rebuilding… we’re simply sucking. Feltton doesn’t make us a playoff team. He increases our glut of guards. We’re going to have to sign him to a new contract. etc etc.
Please don’t do this deal.
Agreed.
+1 to everything you said, except I’ll still be watching the Dubs for the rest of the season like a sucka.
I bet you will too.
Go warriors still.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Dec 18, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
why
does this get to stay up but my post citing the same source 20 minutes earlier gets taken down? GSOM mods hate me.
I’m guessing you didnt express much opinion on the matter, simply giving the source meaning it shouldve been a fanshot, but still I’m with you….who really cares where it belongs. I hate the new SBN layout and rules, who gives a crap about the difference between a fanpost and a fanshot.
"who gives a crap about the difference between a fanpost and a fanshot"
Amen
I pray i never have to use a gun again...
...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...
...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...
...But how often does that happen??
Uh oh
Then we sign Starbury
Starbury Monta
Watson Jamal
Nelson Marco
Williams
Now that’s a team!
by warriorsvictim on Dec 18, 2008 10:20 AM PST reply actions
REPORT!
Carlos Boozer plans on opting out this off season, can we pick him up? haha
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
just saw that
i would love life if we could pick up booze cruise!!
by Young Moolah on Dec 18, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
I was going to write a diary about this:
But it was 3am and i was tired haha.
I know hindsight is 20-20, but come on! How can we dish out long term contracts to Maggette and Jack without considering the much, much, much better FA’s inn 2009 and 2010. Here’s what we should have done:
1. Not sign Maggette to a contract. This was a desperation move on the Warriors part to sign ANYONE. I seriously question if they knew who they were signing when they threw out all that money. They probably picked a name out of a hat.
2. Trade Al Harrington for Malik Rose’s expiring contract.
I can accept in this scenario that the Warriors still resign Jack to his absurd contract extension. But still this is around $19M off the current warriors books. Factor in Monta and Andris’ deals and we’d be around $10M under the cap. This probably wouldn’t be enough to entice Boozer to come over, so we’d need to dump some remaining contracts..Turiaf maybe? Well this is all hindsight now. But this scenario gives the Warriors a much better position to go forward.
If we trade either Wright or Randolph for one year of Felton, I’d literally pull every hair out of my head one thread at a time.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
i don't get it
what’s the POINT!?!?! why not keep our young guys and see how they develop. i just don’t get what our management is doing. anybody else pissed and frusterated?!?!?
Felton Yay
He’s better than the point guards we have now but could we then get rid of crawford to get money for a power forward? We might just get stuck with a smaller squad. If they want to trade Felton for one or more of our duplicate smalls I’d go for it. Say Marco, Kelena and Kurz if they also could use a big guy, or Crawford and ?? for Felton if they need a 2 guard?
If we gave them Wright we’d be hard pressed to get a replacement power forward with our remaining trade chips. Rudolf is out of the question, I wanna see what that puppy looks like once he grows into his feet.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 10:27 AM PST reply actions
Felton and Gerald Wallace?
Steinmetz notes that it could be Maggette, Marcus Williams and Brandan Wright for Raymond Felton and Gerald Wallace.
Pretty interesting article by Steinmetz.
Trading 3 guys that weren’t on the 2007 playoff run team for two new guys.
Basically J-Rich and Baron for Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton (and a little cap space)?
I'd be okay with this
Only because it seems Wright is not going to get his chance here so we can stop complaining about Nellie’s small ball. It’s all we’d have left! Anything to get rid of Maggette, I guess. Would be nice if we could throw in Azubuike somehow.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Dec 18, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
eh, Buike is relatively cheap, and if Maggs is gone we need someone who can drive to the hoop from the wing.
Buike’s are a dime a dozen. We can replace him with others if we need to.
I’m secretly hoping we trade Kelenna to Chicago for Thabo Sefolohsa. The Bulls get the better player imo, but Thabo is a better defender and can do more things without needing the ball. He’s also cheaper. We need more guys who are willing to do the small things..like defense…
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
i also just read that article
i’d take the first trade with wright, but i would never give up randolph!!
by Young Moolah on Dec 18, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
i have to admit
I would also trade Brandon if I had to rather than trade RANDOLPH!
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
thats the only way I would deal Wright….if he helped to dump Maggette. Kinda funny the Bobcats would have Wright and no JRich. So we would look like this, maybe-
PG-Felton/Crawford/CJ
SG-Monta/Crawford/Belinelli
SF-Jack/Buike
PF-Wallace/Randolph
C-Biedrins/Turiaf
-its probably better than what we have now, but we still suck. Hopefully enough to land a top 3 pick. With Blake pretty much set to go to OKC, I’m just glad we have the whole college season to really figure out who we want. Could Belinelli be playing well enough to deal him to NJ for Sean Williams yet?
You beat me
But I like that lineup all right.
That’s a fools gold lineup.
Looks good on paper, but in reality probably won’t live up to expectations.
Like Steinmentz said, how will Felton be able to play next to Monta when he’s healthy? They may score, but they will likewise get scored on pretty easily.
Wallace has said himself he prefers not to play the 4. Also not a good thing on the defensive end. And seeing how we have played defense this year, i can imagine us giving up 120 per game.
A Maggette, Wright, Williams trade solidifies the Warriors as the “Stupidest Franchise in the league”, as popularized in my sig made in 2006. Still holds true today…funny huh. It’s an admission that the FO and the Coaches are not seeing eye-to-eye. Which, and please tell me if i’m wrong but, the best franchises in the league usually are on the same wavelength.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
Belinelli/Sean williams deal
Nets had their chance but Belinelli way better and more upside than him now, i would not do it for belinelli
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 18, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
oh yea couple decent games from Belinelli and he’s the savior. oh, of course, I didnt even see your ridiculous name. You probably think he’s a “shooter” too.
Well "Einstein" can you remember three games(in a row) Jackson, Maggette, Azubuike, Morrow
played good? SAM 23 is so much better name don’t you think SAM? It shows how much creativity is there in your head!
we can't use wallace as the PF
I would rather start Randolph…
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
From TK's Blog:
-Also, on this potential Brandan Wright or Anthony Randolph-for-Raymond Felton rumor… I believe Rick Bonnell’s reporting from Charlotte, but even the Warriors’ new management isn’t THAT dumb, is it? Eventually, Don Nelson is going to push to trade Wright and Wright will probably be traded soon enough, we know that. But for another no-defense point guard? Geesh. Rod Higgins and Chris Mullin must be chuckling about that discussion.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
J-Rich and Baron for Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton (and a little cap space)
I thought everyone missed it. That’s exactly what it is.
And validates the fact that this team didn’t intend to rebuild, they just screwed up.
They screwed up with Wright. They either screwed up on landing KG or they screwed up thinking Wright would have a bigger impact on this franchise with Nellie at the helm. I gotta admit, I liked the move at first consider we get a “frontcourt” player and Monta did have a breakout year. But after watching Nellie for 2 years, I’m pretty sure Monta would have had the same impact whether or not JRich was here.
They screwed up with Maggette. It was pretty clear from the start that he wasn’t part of the plan. Management thought we needed an answer to Baron so we sign the next best player who’d take our money.
I dont reallly like the trade unless...
they take Maggette along with Wright..and send us felton/diaw
Many people may not like Diaws game but he has proven in the playoffs he can play. He just needs plays run through him. When Amare came back he didn’t get his plays…
Is anyone else regretting the Harrington for Crawford trade if this deal happens?
by Marco Belinelli on Dec 18, 2008 10:35 AM PST reply actions
eh, Diaw is an interesting idea. How long is his contract…I believe its 4 more years but I’m not certain. He’s overpaid, but I do wonder how he’d fit in NellieBall. I still think Craw was the best we couldve done for Harrington. He’s not totally untradable either.
we just need to trade jack, crawford or mags cause all 3 r crippling contracts especially for same position.
crawford prolly isnt tradeable this year…..
jack wont get tradd….
that leaves mags….. i really would be pro mags 4 desmond mason and joe smith (or chris wilcox) all 3 would be off books at end of year and smith or wilcox could help a little
by Warriors510 on Dec 18, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
yea but the thunder would never do that. 1. Desmond Mason is a fan favorite in OKC 2. the thunder are all about giving the young guys run and not having overpaid vets signed to longterm deals. Maggs goes against both those.
We should've just traded Al for Malik Rose's expiring contract.
With or without Jamal, we still won’t win.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
Craw was the best we could've done for Harrington?
what about G Wallace?
by ihatenellie on Dec 18, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
if it coulda happened
it would have
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
so you want Wallace AND Maggette’s contracts. Plus an extension to Jack. So you want three 3’s getting paid roughly 10 mil per each for the next 5 years? No thank you, sir.
I'm hearing...
other teams (I have no idea why) actually have some interest in Maggette and his overinflated long ass contract…
no
harrington was just plain awful when he was here, I would rather have craw
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
diaw + felton would make us better today….I would only do it if we firmly believe bwright wont be great… and i kinda think thats the case….
felton/crawford/watson
monta/bellinelli
jack/buke/randolph
diaw/randolph/kurz
biedrins/turiaf
i like this rotation….
Either way its not that good.
With Wallace it’s pretty good. But when our multitude of guards fail to be able to penetrate we’d wish we had magette back. I think we’d be better off to move one of the guards and keep magette, it’s always nice to have a full toolbox.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Wallace
Is an upgrade over Maggette but hes simply going to get injured. Isn’t his nickname CRASH? not someone I want on my team. Diaw > Wallace
by Marco Belinelli on Dec 18, 2008 10:50 AM PST reply actions
actually
Brandon, Randolph, and Beidrins can do that
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Brandon, Randolph, and Beidrins can do that
do what?
Till I get free
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Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
can any of our bigs do this
do what?
Till I get free
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Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
the biggest downside to felton trade is… this draft is deeper in PG than any position…. we need to evaluate our potential draft position and players available then. Brandon jennings or stephen curry will probably be available to us unless we somehow go on a couple huge runs and pick 10-13. potentiall jru holiday too (not sold on him yet though) although as a taller pg he’d compliment monta…even eric maynor from virginia commonwealth could be like a rajon rondo or stuckey coming outta a school, and euro pg class is incredibly deep starting w/ ricky rubio…
as a warriors fan im just crossing my fingers we win lottery and get blake griffin.,.. perfect fit, and player we need. but as a realist we probably arent.
tank the season...
and hope we get lucky with the 1st pick, Blake Griffin would be money!
Tank the season?
no need to tank the season… winning’’s not really an option…
if we don't do this trade
BRANDON JENNINGS…
by Young Moolah on Dec 18, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
brandon jennings sucked major balls in euro league
by montamazing on Dec 18, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
really?
I’ve heard he’s doing pretty well for his age, new country, and older competition. Follow this link and read it: LINK
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
whoa
thanks kenntoe, i just asked for that the same time u posted this…
by Young Moolah on Dec 18, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
to tell you the truth
i haven’t heard much of his play in the euro league, how do i find out??
by Young Moolah on Dec 18, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
please trade SJAX!!!!!!
Maggs & SJAX
for
Felton & Wallace
Works in the trade machine, I would be a very happen man!
now that is a trade that I can deal with
trade the old for younger
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
on the otherhand………….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knzzondy398
thats embarassing
now how about this for a big who possesses good post moves and presense to be able to dribble out and drive lik this…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3mM336_tY8
I'm on board! Lets all choose different teams to root for!
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
They can trade me with him!
Don’t give them more incentive.
Till I get free
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Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
As long as we get rid of Maggs, I’m all for any trade, even like somebody said above, a Camby style trade where we get nothing back, but get rid of that ugly, ugly contract of Maggs’
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No Way!
We have too many guards as it is. WE NEED A PF!!! Keep Wright and Randolph one or both of them is going to be really good.
exactly
we would be more screwed if we traded for another guard
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Dear Jeebus...
Please do not let this horrendous idea go through. PLEASE!
by Mr. Monday Night on Dec 18, 2008 11:08 AM PST reply actions
kawakami and steinmentz both said management is looking more and more at trading maggette….
i still think he’ll have to come back from injury play a few solid games to get some value……
mags 4 joe smith and desmond mason!
Really? Harrington was out with a supposed injury when he was traded. the same will happen with Mags
by smearthebeard on Dec 18, 2008 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Ray Felton
I can’t see him playing along with Monta and then there is the issue of Crawford too
If they can get rid of Maggs then I would maybe trade wright.
If they trade AR for Felton they are mentally ill
What a disaster this front office is. With Baron this team would be .500 waiting for Monta to come back and no need to trade young talent
what do people tthink of +/- stat…. because bwright consistantly has a high 1.
by Warriors510 on Dec 18, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
plus/minus in isolation has some problems, but in conjunction with other statistical metrics, it’s pretty useful. Good stats, good plus minus almost always means a valuable player who will help you win. Only one of the two and it’s less clear. Bad on both and you’re in bad, bad shape. Wright has good numbers and reasonably good plus minus. There’s no excuse for him sitting on the bench as much as he does. Maybe in increased PT something will give, but he’s show enough to warrant that gamble.
At this point, I feel so bad for Wright's future under Nellie...
I hope he gets traded so I can watch him develop in a place he’d actually be given an opportunity…
This would be very disappointing.
Why trade for one cost controlled year of Felton, while giving up Wright’s extra 2 years for a mild salary dump of Maggette (assuming we take back Crash). You can argue pro’s and cons to both of Crash and Maggette’s games. Their both not #1 options on a good team, so let’s call it a wash there. Felton would’ve been a nice piece before adding Jamal Crawford. Now it just seems a little perplexing that we’re still trying to look for a PG when we have about 10 on the roster already. Just bite the bullet this season and try to draft one next summer. Giving up Wright is not worth one year of Felton at a reasonable price. If you look at his market value, Felton will probably get the full MLE or slightly more. He’s not worth it at that price if we’re already paying Jamal and Monta. Two similar players as well.
Finally, why trade for Felton when you can draft his twin at UNC: Ty Lawson? There are plenty of options, hopefully trading with Charlotte is not one of them.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
If they trade Randolph in any trade that doesn’t produce a superstar than this would be the worse trade ever.
by Marco Belinelli on Dec 18, 2008 11:17 AM PST reply actions
I don't believe this rumour
and if they trade AR I am out
Been a fan since the early 1980’s but I can’t take much more
its a clarlotte rumor… people relax… they know felton is on way out and they prolly just trade machined teams in need of a pg
by Warriors510 on Dec 18, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
i think we have enough guards as it is. i would hate to see randolph or wright go, these guys have real potential. im almost 100% sure if either of these guys go they’ll start for the bobcats and have breakout seasons
as should happen for their sakes...
I got tough love for the dubs… An FO can only take so many lumps before it gets run out of town… if enough poor decisions keep being made, and local elites (local politicians and high society) start getting outraged by the ineptitude, even an owner can be run out. (except Al Davis being an outcast merely delight him)
-I’m all aboard the Ellison Movement… guys a prick of a businessman but a shrewd manager who’s richer than anybody and doesn’t accept losing!
Disaster
This would be a horrific trade. Another guard who has a shoot first mentally, commits a ton of turnovers and shoots a low percentage. And he’s not a great 3 pt shooter as well. He’s actually pretty one dimensional. On second thought, he fits perfectly with Nellie’s system. lol Is Nellie planning on playing with 2 balls or one?
So the starting lineup would be:
PG Felton
SG Monta
SF Jax
PF Maggs
C Biedrins
If they pull this off, then Nellie gets his wish: Having the smallest lineup in NBA History.
by Being Mr. Jennings on Dec 18, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions
maybe this is a way for the warriors to ensure the tanking of this season.
I fail to see how picking up a few wins here and there is beneficial to the franchise anymore. I mean the logic is: Play the vets, and it’ll give us a chance to win. Play the rooks, and they’ll stink up the joint. But in this case, it’s the opposite. The Vets suck, and the rooks are playing well. Basically, i can stand losing with young players, but i can’t stand losing with our current band of losers.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
We Don't Know What We Have in Wright or Randolph BUT
we know Felton is no star! Why would we trade two young potential TALL stars for an average guard? What the hell are we thinking – screw smallball and fire Nellie please – he is the only one that could push for this trade.
i dont mind gettin rid of wright..
dont get me wrong i like him a lot…but hes not going to be an all star
randolph on the other hand…id def not get rid of…i see future all star written all over him..
if we trade maggs + wright + williams for wallace + felton, id actually be quite happy
felton seems like a great PG with good defense and speed
imagine:
starters- bench
felton – nelson/bellineli
monta – crawford/morrow/bellineli
jack – randolph/azabuki
wallace – randolph/kurz
beans – turiaf/kurz
i think it would be a strong lineup with a strong bench
problems
1) i don’t see how felton would start over crawford at the 1
2) demarcus nelson would not be in front of belinelli
3) azubuike would not be behind randolph or morrow
it would look more like this, imo…
crawford
ellis
jackson
wallace
biedrins
felton
belinelli
azubuike
randolph
turiaf
morrow, kurz in spurts when needed
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
crawford won't come off the bench
if nellie is still around
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
in addition to this
crawford is 6’5. felton is 6’1. if ellis is going to be playing the 2 (which is what i am assuming, then i would much rather have craw on the floor with him than felton at most times.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
well we don't play defense anyway
but i’ll concede that point
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
so good
that he’s playing 2 so a rookie can play the 1
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Crawford plays much shorter than he is. The size matters if you use it, but Crawford does not give you the advantages of a ‘tall point guard’. He’s soft, very soft. Felton is much more willing to mix it up and consequently is a better rebounder. Crawford is more of a scoring threat, but the notion that Crawford somehow covers for Ellis being undersized for a 2 doesn’t really hold up.
Felton is much more willing to mix it up and consequently is a better rebounde
So would we be ahead to get Felton then trade Montay or Crawford to reduce the redundancy?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
he words trade and monta together are BLASFOMY!
Well things started to fall apart when Montay got more money so maybe he’s not worth the trouble. What kind of power forward do you thing we could trade him for? Ali can go along too :>)
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
i would not be a warriors fan anymore if ellis was gone...simple as that..
u can call me a bandwagoner or w/e…i loved the warriors before ellis was around…but ellis is my fav player in the NBA…so where he goes i go
also, we started to fall apart when nelly decided to play all his starters all game every game last season.
and when we traded jrich away
but thats beside the point…either way…its not ellis fault for gettin money.
its not ellis fault for gettin money.
No but it’s his fault that he got hurt after taking our money.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
after taking our money.
you should make a police report. monta robbed you and who else? now i see why you don’t like him!
he took the contract that was offered by the GSW, he didn’t take your money or anyone else’s. by your logic,the GSW history has tons of players (foyle, fisher, dun-murph) we should hate “for taking our money”
the stop calling him "beans" movement
by pervisNeverNervous on Dec 19, 2008 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
really dont get what im saying?
ok. im saying you’re super negative about every player on the warriors when they’re losing. the warriors will continue losing with felton on this team, and then you will find something with him to complain about, like how out of shape he is or how he turns the ball over too often…got that?
No, I don’t “got that”. Considering how very, very little your post has to do with reality, I’m not quite sure why I’m bothering to respond, but what you’re saying is simply not true. I have not been negative about Wright, but rather positive about what he’s done. I’ve been negative about his PT. I have not been negative about Biedrins. I haven’t mentioned him much at all, but think he’s doing a fine job all things considered.
Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. Perhaps you’re merely projecting. Perhaps you can’t read.
got that?
Is this version any different than the first?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
this of course is assuming
that maggette, williams, watson are on the way out.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
U got belinelli a lil mixed up in your depth chart.
Belinelli better than morrow and ahead of nelson at point. i think at least.
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 18, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
thats where a good front officer comes in….. if bwright really is overrated and nelli’s right… it’d be a coup to get a solid pg. Other teams dunno they only see thje tools and some promising minutes
by Warriors510 on Dec 18, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
just saying its easy to look good when u get 10 mionutes randomly here and there… its harder when ur a 30 min a game start (anthony morrow/cj watson/buke anyone?
by Warriors510 on Dec 18, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to know how felton or wallace
will help this team? The best thing the warriors can do is wait this out, cause unless the get a star, no trade is gonna help, especially giving up one of our bigs for ANOTHER guard. If this trade goes trough, get ready to see another former warrior you wish you had. Warriors FO has got be the worst and i’m pretty sure DN would be behind it if it went trough, and what does he care if it doesn’t work, he’s getting paid anyway and wont have to deal with the mess. Like someone said earlier there are pgs in this draft, hell is this felton’s last year of his contract?If so why can’t we wait to pick him up for free. Warriors FO should be banned from making any deals for the rest of the year due to CM signing.
we’ll be gettin wallace and felton (two starters) for someone who is bad for our team (maggs)…and 2 people who dont get PT (wright/williams)
i like the trade
I bet Portland fans reacted like this when the Blazer’s FO traded a young and inexperienced Jermaine O’Neal for Dale Frikkin Davis. Coincidentally, thousands of Portlanders were rushed to the ER for massive bleeding of the skull due to extreme amounts of pulling their own hair out of their scalps.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
In situation yes.
Look at their stats. Both were/are highly effective players at a young age. Jermaine wasn’t always the player he was today. He rode the bench his first couple of years because he had Rasheed in front of him blocking him. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility that Wright could explode as well. Given the right amount of playing time.
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Wallace would help a bit, just because he’s a solid man defender. Felton would do nothing for us, except get us closer to the record for most guards on a roster.
we dont have a good true point gaurd
cj sucks….crawford is a better 2….ellis is a 2
demarcus nelson is good, but hes gunna need to be a backup for now until he gets more experience
i dont see how having a very good 1, which we dont have, would not help us?
except
that wright is our best 4. and we’d be dealing our best power forward for a mediocre point guard when we already have a bunch of guys who could do a mediocre (albeit slightly worse) job running the point. i absolutely hate this trade possibility.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
clearly
wright is not gunna be getting playtime anyways…hes just wasting his time here…i want him to play as well, but if hes not at least lets get someone who will
Then let's get rid of Nellie instead
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
well
Nelson is just an idiot who won’t play big men except for Biedrins and Turiaf. I feel bad that Brandon is not getting PT, but we need a PF, we would not have anyone to fall on if Nelson miraculously decides to use a true PF.
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
except for Randolph, but
R can’t hold the fort by himself
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
oh and also, felton really would fit our playstyle
hes very quick, can finish well, can drive and dish very well, can pass very well, and for a point is a good defender
it still doesn't change fact that wallace is not a 4
and felton doesn’t help us at perimeter d, which is the cause for most our defensive problems, at least in wright/randolph you actually have players who play the 4. felton is a scoring guard in pg body, which makes him no different from the 10 other guards we have on the team. this season is lost as far as playoffs are concerned, but let’s not make it worse. CM can be traded just not right now, maybe later to someone close to making the playoffs, they might bite to our advantage or during the offseason, what’s the rush?
Not a 4
but can rebound with almost any 4 in the league and take any 4 off the dribble. i want to see wallace in a warrior jersey. if i means giving up mags and wright im for it
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 18, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
espn reports this too
FINALLY ANOTHER POINT GUARD. SECRETLY DON NELSON IS ACQUIRING A TEAM ENTIRELY BUILT OF POINT GUARDS SO THAT WE CAN PLAY TRUE SMALL BALL.
small ball only works when our team's top 5 outplays the opposing team's top 5.
Just playing small doesn’t increase our likelihood of winning.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
to add:
most of the time, our small ball 5 man rotation aren’t even the best players on the court. CJ, DeMarcus, and Kelenna get a lot of minutes while Brandan and Randolph sit. Shoot even Belinelli before his last 6 breakout games.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
and
our rebounding is horrible when our small ball lineup is in. we give up so many second chance points, it makes me sick…
by Young Moolah on Dec 18, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
no way
small ball is obviously not working.
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
supposedly
it is all just a rumor and none of it’s true. anybody hear knbr? the charlotte press has a lot to do with this…
Felton is not the answer; neither is adding Wallace and
consider the source – of course they’d like to land a young, athletic big with p—————- for their surplus PG
this would be a similar mistake to trading Harrington for Crawford in that regard
Felton and Wallace are not going to get us to the playoffs, we’d still have Wallace’s contract, the glut of guards which just forced us to jettison Hendrix (yet another wasted draft pick), and will we ever see the end of small ball?
I would rather start BWright and ride the season out with him at PF than insert Wallace at PF, lose Wright (or AR), and have yet another overpaid underperforming vet …
buuuuuut, now that Marco’s had a couple good games, he might actually have some trade value and maybe we can unload him before his clock strikes 12 like Morrow’s did …
well put. hopefully wright gets some time while mags is out and sticks in the lineup. he’s got the game to do it.
and if we could swing marco somewhere… well, i wouldn’t mind. he’s been playing well, but with this many sgs on the team, we might as well sell high.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
I’d rather trade Kelenna. At least Marco gives us a playmaker as well as effort on defense. Two things Kelenna is allergic to.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
+1
loved buike his rookie season…not so much now.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
what are you talking about
azabuki is a way better defender than bellineli
idk why there are so many people in love with bellineli, he isnt genobli yet
by DeepS on Dec 18, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
buke just frustrates me on offense…. he’ll try and make at least 5 kobe type plays a game, when hes nowhere near kobe. He’s great as a bench energy guy.
I disagree.
Kelenna has the tools and athleticism to be a better defender than Belinelli. I’m not arguing against that. It’s the effort in which he fails to provide. Belinelli at lest tries to stay active and fights through screens. Meanwhile Kelenna does what every other perimeter warrior does and either A. Switches on defense or B. Goes under the screen and leaves his man an opening for the shot or drive.
Argue that.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
Argue that.
In my experience going under a screen is the best way to stay between the guy and the basket, fighting thru it often slows one down?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
i don't agree.
If you go under you risk giving the player an open look at the basket. you also give them more room to create and space the floor. Look at Boston’s defense. Rondo always tries to fight through the screen (although he has two great post defenders who can actually guard a pick n roll). Warrior guards just look lazy out there.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
going under the screen.
I’ve actually seen a couple of time where the Warriors player goes under the screen but still get beat on the drive.
it's not the guy getting screened
it’s the guy guarding the screener who needs to communicate, slow down the penetration, and recover to his own man quickly – go under, risk the outside shot, go over risk the drive but either way the help defense comes from the screener’s defender and they have to work together …. which assumes they’ve played enough in tandem to do so effectively (no small issue on this club)
i agree..
Our bigs surely cannot defend the pick n roll. But it is equally our guards fault for giving such poor effort which results in bad execution. I give more leeway to the bigs since they are mostly young, while our veteran guards are Jack, Craw, and Maggs.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
char would be cleaning up in this deal - they're looking at losing Felton for nothing but now snag Wright
The Bobcats face the possibility of losing Felton without compensation after this season, when he becomes a restricted free agent. They chose not to sign him to a contract extension last summer, after drafting another point guard, D.J. Augustin, with the ninth overall pick.
Augustin has blossomed of late, scoring 29 points and totaling seven assists in an overtime victory Tuesday against the Chicago Bulls. Augustin outplayed Bulls point guard Derrick Rose, the No.1 overall pick.
That could leave the Bobcats with a dilemma in July, should another NBA team offer Felton a lucrative offer sheet.
At that point, the Bobcats would either match that contract and possibly overpay a player who could end up a reserve or potentially lose a player chosen fifth overall in 2005, without compensation.
Meanwhile, the Warriors have an abundance of forwards …
That last line just proves these writers don’t have a clue what they’re writing about and just pull shitoutatheirasses
Abundance??
What’s the opposite of abundance?? IS “unabundance” a word? Maybe “abdance”? or “abunundance”?
dearth?
paucity?
scarcity?
lack?
deficiency?
shortage?
I wouldn’t say any of these really apply to the Ws’ forward situation, but stylistically speaking they’re all much better options than “unabundance.” ;-)
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 18, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
What’s the opposite of abundance??
flat
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
hate to do it
but, who else would lose it if we dealt wright for felton, if only because that makes a certain draft night trade into felton for j-rich?
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
you know
as much as Watson is playing well lately. He really as no energy nor a connection with the team.
No connection with the team
Didn’t Jackson call CJ his son…unless the Warriors plan on getting rid of Jackson; there is CJ’s connection to the team.
If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh
Kind of late but
Your right he called Morrow his son. But he also called CJ his son too.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/17/SPRS1465MU.DTL
couldn’t link it for some reason
Within weeks of coming to the Warriors, Morrow had earned the nickname “Little Jack” because he reminded people of Stephen Jackson, whom he resembles from a distance. (In college, he went by A-Mo.) Jackson welcomed the comparison and decided to quasi-adopt the rookie.
“I always like the underdog,” Jackson said. “I root for them in movies. I root for them in sports. … Players who make it when they’re not drafted, I love their attitudes. Last year, I said C.J Watson was my son. Now, he’s got a brother.”
If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh
Buike gone if would could land wallace
I wouldnt mind seeing Buike traded although he helps on the defense and rebounding which is the weakness of the team. I think he tries to do a lil too much, he does not move the ball quickly enough, and once he decides he is going to drive the ball not comin back out.
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 18, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions
Ugh
We are in serious need for a true 4. We aren’t going to get anywhere trying to force SFs to play the 4 and I really don’t think Wallace can cut it either.
Maybe trading for Felton may help but I’m tired of adding more guards to our roster. It will just seem like we run for a panic for a PG every time a guard we add to the roster doesn’t have the effect we need (Marcus, Jamal). Sadly..dare I say it…I’m really missing Al right now.
We just better not loose Randolph. He is going to be amazing.
I would hate to trade Wright or Randolph
I’d be so mad. I wouldn’t watch the Warriors for a while. Definetly rather see Buike gone than this. Buke+Mags+Jackson for Morrison+Wallace+Felton.
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oddly enough
i dont wanna see jackson gone…he is the true ‘warrior’…altho i hate some of the stuff he does…when hes on, hes amazing on both offense and defense…hopefully he continues to gain his confidence back after last nights game until monta is back and build from there…
…idk how id feel if we traded jackson…good/bad?
for all his bads…he’s been the guy that could really make roaracle go nuts in good and bad ways :P
true
Jackson is a key warrior whether people like it or not, I have to admit, I wanted him traded half the time, but he is really a key player when he has his groove, Maggette hasn’t proven a thing to the team, and Azubuike is also really important too, he is killer on d.
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one
On this board who thinks that Wright is more valuable than Randolph? I don’t want to trade either one but…
- Wright was drafted higher in a deeper draft than Randolph.
- If he can keep adding on some pounds, Wright has an ideal power forward body.
- His freakishly long arms are, well, freakish. He disrupts shooters and gets his hands in the passing lanes. Because he can challenge shots, he makes Biedrins a better rebounder.
- His little baby hook from 6-8 feet cannot be defended.
- His +/- is excellent, probably because he forces opposing teams to change their offensive strategy, and because the W’s are a much better rebounding team with him out there.
Haven’t we realized that trading players for cents on the dollar b/c they don’t fit into Nellie’s “system” (whatever that may be) is not a good long-term strategy?
by UncleCliffy on Dec 18, 2008 2:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think
wright is amazing too. I love his hook shot as well and he is consistent. I just think as randolph’s rookie year he’s doing really well. Granted wright didn’t get much playing time as a rookie i still think randolph we be better than wright come next year.
but you are right. Brandon is amazing. Its a tough call since they are similar in many ways, and different in many ways as well.
plus they are so young
it might even be too early to tell
right now when i look at 2007 draft… i would have prefered al thorton, thaddues young, stuckey, nick young and sean williams to bwright….
when i look at 2008 theres no1 after randolph i’d want
I don't see the relevance
So because the Warriors made a “better” selection in the 2008 draft, you think it’s best to deal Wright? I don’t see the connection.
WOW.
I can respect the opinion on Thad Young and Stuckey…But Thornton? He’s a one dimensional scorer in the Maggete mold. Nick Young hasn’t done anything really in the NBA, and Sean Williams has done a whole lot of nothing. Meanwhile we have a perfectly effective PF rotting on the bench most nights.
You have to look back in time as well, Wright was slotted to go 5th overall on most mock drafts, and was the 3rd rated true freshman coming into the NCAA behind only Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. He was highly effective in college and continues to be highly effective. What else does he need to do to get people’s attention? Get 100+ tattoos and get in fights at strip clubs?
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
i personally wouldn't want to trade either of them as well
but if we had to, I’d trade MAYBE Brandon, I guess I’m not so sure anymore. I HATE THE IDEA OF TRADING BOTH OF THEM!
by Ali luvs monta on Dec 18, 2008 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
This is weird
We got too man Guards already, why would we trade a forward for another guard?
I think the basic consensus is
DON’T TRADE EITHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DeepS
I tend to agree with much of what you write (for example, your last comment on Jax, which is pretty spot on), but I think you are way off base here. Don’t get caught up in AR’s sick windmill put-back dunks, and look at the results. Wright is much more efficient, and he plays a position where the Warriors have a serious, glaring need. The only way I would trade Wright is if the W’s received an All-Star power forward (or close to it).
i agree
wright is much more solid right now…hes more of a consistent player it seems…but i see randolph as a future superstar, hes got a lot of growing to do and yet, hes already showing many signs of being amazing…i cant wait to see randolph grow…i just dont feel the same way abotu wright
like ive been saying, i like wright a lot, but i wouldnt be THAT hurt about losing him…
if we lost randolph…i would be VERY VERY VERY pissed, just a little pissed if we lost wright
im prbly wrong but i really dont see randolph being a future superstar
hes got the potential to be a good rebounder and shot blocker, but he has to work on his shot a LOT and he needs to work on his ball handling which is way out of control, hes got it but he doesn’t know how to use it. he also has a low ball iq right now. i think he may have the potential. but from what i’ve seen he is miles from that.
I don’t understand what people don’t see in Wright and see in Randolph.
Wright has gone out and performed every time his number has been called. His numbers are substantially better than Randolph’s. I like both players but why would trading Wright be an easier blow than trading Randolph? Because Randolph shoots jumpers? First of all, not that well. Second of all, Wright shoots jumpers too, he just doesn’t because his jumper is not NBA-ready. That doesn’t hurt the team whatsoever. Maybe that is why he is mentioned often as trade bait, because he isn’t flashy. But just because Randolph wears his emotions on his sleeve and Wright harnesses them doesn’t mean Wright plays with no heart. And it sure as hell shouldn’t mean that we should trade the best PF we have on our roster.
by belilaugh on Dec 18, 2008 2:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Wright has already shown an ability to be solid role player/starter while randolph does pretty bad when he is in. I mean he gets a lot of rebounds and blocks but if someone flinches with the ball he jumps as high as he can to block the shot, travels all the time. As far as understanding the game i would say he just kinda does what he wants out there for no ryme or reason, who knows he could end up settling down and play smater and become good or he could be like darius miles. So why trade Wright who has shown the ability to do it already when we dont even know if Randolph will ever make an impact.
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 18, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Wright appears to have a better touch inside and much better shot selection. Randolph appears to be the better rebounder. They are similarly good shot blockers. These things were true in college and remain true in the pros. They are ridiculously similar in size and quickness.
The ga-ga over Randolph is because of his alleged ‘skills’, uncommon in a big man. He appears more fluid and comfortable putting the ball on the floor, and passing the ball. That tends to give someone more of the ‘look’ of a superstar, even if the actual game impact (which can differ quite a bit from popular perceived worth) ins’t terribly high. With Randolph, the issue is whether or not he’ll be able to overcome those giant liabilities in shot selection, shooting touch and turning the ball over can ever allow him to capitalize on these skills. Few players with those particular problems ever overcome them and if he cannot, his ‘perimeter skills’ are fool’s gold. With Wright, the issue is if he can find a way to get and stay on the floor to be able to contribute like he has when Nellie gets confused and forgets that he won’t ever play him.
I also suspect that there’s some phenomenon of thinking that the more recent pick is better, simply because he hasn’t had as long to show that he isn’t the second coming. I suspect, but cannot tell for certain, that if Randolph was the one drafted the year before and traded for Richardson, that opinions would be different, even if they were identical players.
by jae on Dec 18, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Comparing his handles to 7 footers makes him look incredible. Comparing his handles to other small forwards makes him look pretty average.
For a 7 foot basketball player, there are a lot of things he does that you can’t find in other 7 footers. For a basketball player playing the 3 or even 4 though…
I think Wright does more of the intangible things you won’t find in a box score. He gets so many deflected passes, keeps rebounds alive. I can see him producing quietly but efficiently. He won’t make as many Sportcenter highlights, but he always seems to be around the ball which is a great thing.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
+1
I think in this trade rumor, we should add in maggs, which would allow Gerald wallace to jump in the pool as well
Why would we want a poor man's Crawford???
I wouldn’t guess he’d start over Crawford, unless we use Felton at the 1 and have Crawford as Monta’s backup… but I’d rather play Monta all 48 mins… he’s lil Jordan!
thats what i want
crawford as the backup for monta
and felton at the 1…
BUT crawford at the 1 and monta at the 2 could work too
As far as what people see in Randolph and not in Wright
I’d say a thunderous dunk in Yao’s face. Not that it is an indication that Randolph is better than Wright (though I would argue he is a higher upside), but people want to see that emotion. Why do you think Tim Duncan is so good, yet so boring? Basketball is a game that can be very exciting or boring, depending on how you play. Wright might play it better now, but Randolph makes it more exciting. Whatever the case I don’t want to trade either.
duncan is an extremely exciting player to watch...
if hes on your team. what fan doesn’t enjoy watching their team win.
I love watching the Spurs play. They play the most fundamental basketball in the league. I think the way the Warriors play looks like crap…but to the casual NBA fan i guess it looks entertaining.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
They play the most fundamental basketball in the league
Yeah, Spurs against Warriors showed the difference between good and bad coaching systems.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 18, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
it would be
a grave mistake to trade brandan wright. i just have this feeling that he will flourish and do really well if he gets traded. he just doesnt get any playing time here cause of freaking nellie.
When Maggette missed those consecutive shots in a span of a humming bird’s flap,
Crawford simply looked at the bench and said, "Are you serious?"
Its hard to tell who is going to be better..WRight or Randolph…But I definitely like Randolphs fire more. Wright seems to be just going through the motions when he is out there
by Marco Belinelli on Dec 18, 2008 4:52 PM PST reply actions
POP!!POP!!!POP!!!POP!!!POP!!!
The sound of another rumor being shot down…
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
True...
He said himself that he doesn’t know who’s in charge over here (nobody does). Still it doesn’t change the fact that someone is trying to shoot down this rumor. It’s all speculation from questionable sources on both sides of this rumor, but I’m hoping it has no legs.
"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
Forget Felton we Want Wallace
Wallace for Maggette and Williams
Gets rid of a guard and adds a 3, potential 4 in small ball.
its better than having Maggette and Williams
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 18, 2008 5:47 PM PST reply actions
forget felton and get wallace? that seriously doesn’t solve anything. We clearly need big men and a true pg. I still wouldnt trade Randolph for felton
by Marco Belinelli on Dec 19, 2008 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
OMG
We can’t trade them!!!!! We need them, Randolph is going to be a fantastic player!!! And Brandon is doing really well, can’t we trade fucking Maggette for Felton or something??? PLEASE DON’T DO IT!!!!
Hell no
we need Wright and Randolph, we have too many guards.
As someone said. Trade Maggs and Williams for Wallace
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
Wright
been boo boo since this season started.He can’t garb rebound without being thrown around in the paint. I would trade him, but not for Felton thou. I rather try to draft Ricky Rubio and package wright or maggs for another draft pick.
by warriorfan4life on Dec 18, 2008 7:26 PM PST reply actions
i dont think rubio is 09 draft eligible
since he’s 18…. i dunno if his grade level translates… although european system is different.
i’d agree i want him though. Stephen curry wouldnt be bad either but i agree… rubio is special, he could be like parker in fact he could start and contribute big when hes only 20
That's assuming we get the #1 in the first place. Which doesn't seem likely right now.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I thought of this further up the page
except I had Buike in there instead of Wright. I’d prefer to trade Bukie than Wright.
Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.
by StSaints408 on Dec 18, 2008 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone else playing the draft machine on ESPN.com also?
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
Just wait
No need to make a trade until Monta comes back and we see what we’ve got. His play at PG will tell us what we need to trade for, no point in rushing to make a trade before the deadline when we aren’t making the playoffs anyway.
well, that’s probably the prudent thing to do. See how Monta handles the point, what the team looks like, and where our weaknesses lie. But hell, that’s no fun. Let’s make some trades!!!!
In reality, I think we can determine a couple of things. First, Crawford is not a point guard. So the idea of him and Monta in the backcourt both handling the ball isn’t a perfect scenario. A better fit would have been Hinrich who can run a team with the ball in his hands and is a tough defender on both 1’s and 2’s. Second, we have way too many guys who can play the 2 position. Ellis, Crawford, Bellinelli, Morrow, Buike, Jackson and Maggette. Granted, we’ll play some at the 3 and try some at 1 but none have great size for a 3 or playmaking abilities of a 1. Finally, we need to make a trade to reduce the logjam and Maggette is the best option, although he may be the hardest to move.
The Crawford trade didn’t change our biggest needs- a playmaker at the 1, a vet at 4, and a full sized back up center.
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