Trade for Okafor
I am not sure if this has been mentioned before on GSoM, but do you think the Bobcats would pull the trigger if Chris Mullin offered Brandan Wright and Corey Maggette for Emeka Okafor?
Why I think the Bobcats might make the deal:
Brandan Wright is obviously a big time prospect that we can afford to trade because we also have Anthony Randolph, who in my opinion has a chance to be a better player than Wright. Okafor is being paid 12 million a year. It's not like Maggette for 10 mil a year is much better, but it sounds to me like Charlotte is doing everything in their power to move Gerald Wallace as well. If the Warriors can trade Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy, then trading Wallace should not be an insurmountable task. In other words, they will need a 2/3 man who can score in the half court. That man is Maggette.
Why we need Okafor:
It's obvious enough why, we get our ass kicked on the boards pretty much every game. Okafor will be able to guard the Boozer's and Amare's of the west. Biedrins is a bit light in the tail, and pairing him up with a 255 pound physical specimen like Okafor would not only solidify our lead in shotblocking, but would obviously allow Biedrins to battle one opponent for a rebound, instead of 2 or 3 or 4....
Is Biedrins a good enough scorer to play with Okafor?
Emeka is not an offensive player. Randolph will get points from everywhere as he improves, but will Biedrins ever be that kind of player you can rely on when the jumper betrays? When we need points inside?
I'd like to know why you think this would be a good or bad trade, and if the Bobcats would be interested in Maggette/Wright, or any other combination of pieces that you think would rather be accepted. I HONOSTLY BELIEVE that Okafor is exactly the kind of player the W's need. He and Adrish Beeedringch would rebound ALL. Not to mention, it'd be tough to drive in there if Nellie had Okafor, Turiaf, and Randolph on the court at the same time. There would be many hard fouls, blocks, and changed shots...
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Er........didnt we get Bwright from the Bobcats in the first place?
For J-Rich? If they didnt rate him then, and we evidently dont rate him to trade him, why would they take him back?
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by BritWarriorGSW on
Dec 19, 2008 4:03 AM PST
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It's a good idea....and i agree with you,
but way too many IFs.
by DuikeBuike on
Dec 19, 2008 7:27 AM PST
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Remember the controversy when the Magic
were choosing between Dwight Howard and Emeka Okafor?
I wonder if they chose correctly?
(The above was in no way meant to be taken seriously)
Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.
by StSaints408 on
Dec 19, 2008 7:28 AM PST
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what?
bobcats had the second pick.. they didn’t really have a choice
by saintdee on
Dec 19, 2008 8:00 AM PST
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He said remember when the Magic…
No brainer at this point that the Magic made the right call, though Okafor has been pretty good.
by jae on
Dec 19, 2008 8:51 AM PST
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yea I’d say Okafor has actually exceeded what a lot of “experts” projected him to be. He’s limited offensively, but he has held up physically. The difference between the two is due only to how good Howard is, not how poor Okafor has been.
by sam23 on
Dec 19, 2008 9:56 AM PST
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I don't think they would trade Okafor
But I would be interested if they would pull the trigger for Maggette and Wright.
Lineup: 2nd/3rd team
PG-Monta Bellinelli/Watson
SG-Crawford Buike/Bellinelli
SF-Jax Randolph/Buike
PF-Okafor Turiaf
C- Biedrins Turiaf
We would have decent defense, not too small, still good ability to score with Monta and Crawford. The question is, would Don Nelson ever give a guy like Okafor a lot of minutes since he isn’t a great offensive player. Probably not
by Pearlsofwisdom on
Dec 19, 2008 7:37 AM PST
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+1
We don’t have the coach that would okay this trade. As for my stance on it, I love Wright, but Okafor is just what we need. Maybe we can steal there 1st round pick also. Draft James Harden. Baller!
by Prettyugly on
Dec 19, 2008 8:03 AM PST
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i would do it
im tired of watching 4 gaurds and a big line up. its nice to do it as a change of pace but its time to start being alittle more conventional. we are not the we believe team and nellie ball isnt working anymore.
okafor would bring the interior toughness that this team is lacking.
be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Rach on
Dec 19, 2008 8:47 AM PST
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Okafor still has BYC issues with his contract. He’s not impossible to trade, but it’s more difficult.
by jae on
Dec 19, 2008 8:52 AM PST
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We have a more effective Okafor. His name is Andris.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on
Dec 19, 2008 8:58 AM PST
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if u were charlotte would u trade ur only post player for hamstring hurt corey maggette?
i wouldnt
by Warriors510 on
Dec 19, 2008 9:27 AM PST
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what are you talking about? they have Sean May. And now Boris Diaw. (sarcasm)
by sam23 on
Dec 19, 2008 9:57 AM PST
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Mind you...
Brandan Wright would be included in the trade.
by Travis Bickle on
Dec 19, 2008 1:49 PM PST
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I would be surprised if Nelson played Okafor big minutes if we had him. I would be VERY surprised if he played Okafor and Biedrins together. Okafor seems similar to Ronny Turiaf (big, defensive minded F/C) and how often do we see Andris and Ronny at the same time? Nellie would probably still start Jack or Maggette at PF.
by jakeaco on
Dec 19, 2008 10:13 AM PST
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Okafor is considerably better than Turiaf and I don’t think they’re all that similar. Okafor is a much, much better rebounder and a better interior scorer. He’s a low post player on both ends. Turiaf is a much better passer and can do some traffic directing in in the high post. Turiaf has turned into a better shot blocker, but a large part of that seems to be that he doesn’t need to limit his fouls to stay on the floor. He’s not staying in long in any event.
by jae on
Dec 19, 2008 10:26 AM PST
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I like Okafor, but i’m not in love with him either.
He had limited offensive moves in the post coming out of UConn, and still does. He’s a great shotblocker, interior defender and rebounder. But he’s still not a 1st or 2nd option on offense (yet). However his chances of realizing his offensive potential are getting less and less likely each year he plays. When i see him play i think of Charles Oakley without a mean streak.
I have no doubt that he’d never see the court with Andris, and if we were to trade with Charlotte, it’d probably be a swap of Dris’ for Okafor. They are just too similar to have on the court at the same time. Add in Turiaf for us, and we become a bit redundant.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on
Dec 19, 2008 10:50 AM PST
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why is Okafor and Biedrins being similar a sin?
The second word that comes to mind when we mention the Warriors guard (after “suck” of course) is redundant.
So let’s assume that Okafor is similar to Biedrins. Biedrins is no question the most valuable active player on the team. If they are indeed similar, not only would I want to have them both. I’d play them both as much as I can.
by lightz0ut on
Dec 19, 2008 12:45 PM PST
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Biedrins and Okafor
The two are not the same. Again, Biedrins is a out of position rebounder who relies on his quickness and great hands on the offensive end. Okafor a natural 4 who plays the position true to it’s position as he boxes out being physical on the glass, and is also leaps ahead of Andris in terms of defending the post and changing shots. The whole benefit of playing an Okafor with Biedrins, is that Okafor will be the one changing good shots into bad ones, and this will allow Biedrins to scramble for those rebounds he is so great at collecting. Both are OK interior scorers, but that is all we need.
THE WARRIORS DON’T NEED ANY MORE SCORERS. Monta, Craw, Jackson, Azubuike, Belinelli, soon Randolph, and even Watson will provide more than enough scoring punch to get us up in games if we have those guys(Oak, Turiaf, Biedrins) defending the rim and cleaning glass.
D.J. Augustine….does anybody know how he’s playing or like him on our team as a conventional back-up guard who’s main purpose would be to rest Crawford or Monta? Is he a better player than C.J.?
by Travis Bickle on
Dec 19, 2008 2:07 PM PST
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dude
the bobcats aren’t going to trade their prized draft pick… get with the program, they are trying to trade felton because augustine is getting better by the day…
by HoLdEmUP on
Dec 19, 2008 3:45 PM PST
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Thanks
I don’t really tune into the Charlotte Bobcats’ local network to watch D.J. Augustine play. Some of us work and go to school…that’s why I asked…
by Travis Bickle on
Dec 19, 2008 3:53 PM PST
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I think your logic is flawed.
The warriors need a lot of things. They need a real PF at the 4. A player that preferrably can play the high post since AB plays on the low block. We need a big man that can be efficient as well, a little range and some post moves wouldn’t hurt as well. Ab is still too raw with his post moves and doesn’t have any kind of range at all.
Having a dominant post player can do wonders for your team. Just look at Duncan and Garnett. They are both highly efficient scorers on the block. Not only that but teams need to game plan their defenses around them. They suck defenders down into the lane and create open looks on the perimeter. Why do you think San Antonio and Boston filled their teams with good, quality 3pt shooters?
Your assessment of Okafor and Biedrins sounds good to me. But having an Okafor-AB frontcourt still makes us a heavy guard oriented offensive team. You can’t expect or call upon AB or Okafor to be the man down low who you dump it down to on each possession. They simply aren’t these kind of players (yet). And with each new season it becomes less and less likely that they realize their offensive potential.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on
Dec 19, 2008 6:01 PM PST
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I agree that Okafor is better than Turiaf, but why trade for him if we already have Andris and Turiaf and the PF position doesn’t exist when Don Nelson is coaching the team.
by jakeaco on
Dec 19, 2008 1:19 PM PST
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i think only reason we dont see em more is cause if 1 gets in foul trouble we have 0 big men. Bwright, not exactly a physical presense.
nels likes turiaf… and to be ho0nest whats not to like, hard worker, generally knows his limitations great bench guy, and great for this team considering we dont need another scorer
by Warriors510 on
Dec 19, 2008 10:27 AM PST
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How about we just...
Trade Wright and Maggette to the Suns for JRich again….
by bradyk2 on
Dec 19, 2008 10:21 AM PST
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camby
is camby gonna be attainable once kaman comes back… kaman, randolph and camby all get 10 mil+ a year… they could use mags back
by Warriors510 on
Dec 19, 2008 10:29 AM PST
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why would you want to get rid of Brandon?
Besides Charlotte wouldn’t want him, they drafted him on the Warriors behalf
by Ali luvs monta on
Dec 19, 2008 11:40 AM PST
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Don't trade Wright!
Brandan Wright is obviously a big time prospect that we can afford to trade because we also have Anthony Randolph, who in my opinion has a chance to be a better player than Wright.
It might make some sense to acquire a player like Okafor, but this logic is faulty. OP, you are entitled to your opinion, but trading Wright is not the answer. Just because the stubborn old man doesn’t want to play him does not mean he is not efficient and effective. I think W’s fans as a whole are too high on AR (who I like) and too down on BW. Is this because…
- they think AR is more of a freak athlete with outstanding running and jumping abilities?
- they have a soft spot for great dunkers?
- they perceive that Nellie likes AR better?
If I were the GM of another team, I would be itching to steal B. Wright from the W’s.
by UncleCliffy on
Dec 19, 2008 12:57 PM PST
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I don't think so...
First off, I want to say that I’m not down on Wright at all. Wright is going to be a very good player. However, I’m not sure if his rebounding will ever be as good as his ability to score the ball. But I think Wright will turn into a 20 ppg 8rpg player some day.
Now, the problem as mentioned before, with starting Wright and Biedrins together is:
1. Both of them together, are too light in the ass to handle most opposing front courts.
2. Wright is not a good enough rebounder on the defensive ends, and constantly let’s his man move him out of the way for second chance points.
3. Wright does not take any pressure off Biedrins defensively, on the glass, nor does he have the consistency and range on his jumpshot to take pressure off of Biedrins offensively.
My argument for keeping Randolph(who’s not overrated) over Wright:
1. Randolph will be able to come off of the bench for player like Okafor and give the line-up an entirely different look, as it seems his jumpshot is improving and he could allow Biedrins some wiggling room if he’s scoring with it.
2. Randolph’s ballhandling, passing skills, and overall speed & quickness will allow him to match up with most 3’s in the league, and this will enable him to also share minutes with Jackson and Azubuike at the SF spot.
3. Randolph is a better all around player. He’s more fearless. He wants to be great and believes that nothing will stop him from doing so. He screamed in Yao’s face. His jumpshot is surprisingly accurate and looks as if he could add range to it, making him even more of a passing/shooting threat in our offense. He goes after the boards more, he runs better, he IS a freak. In other words, probability points to him being more of an impact player in the league.
5. His shotblocking ability along with Okafor’s would offer a double threat on that end at the 3 and 4 spots, while Biedrins would not have to worry as much about defending the rim, getting into foul trouble, and can focus mainly on collecting rebounds.
So in this sense, trading Wright is the answer. Maggette and his contract will not likely get us a player like Emeka Okafor, and I’m not an advocate of trading what will obviously be a lottery pick this year for him. I’m sure the salaries are close for a Wright/Maggette, Okafor swap…and like others have said, he is exactly what we need on this team.
B-WRIGHT and MJ
Just because the Cats traded Wright on draft day means absolutely nothing. What it does mean, is that they wanted J-Rich, who Jordan thought he was going to be better than he was. Who’s to say MJ, the worst GM in the league, wouldn’t say yes to a trade that benefits both sides? Brandan Wright was not a convincingly “great player” coming out of the draft despite his huge upside, for Jordan(and friend Rod Higgins) to turn around and say, “the deal is off” after everyone had already put their d*cks on the table was not likely to happen despite of any favor they may have felt towards Brandan.
by Travis Bickle on
Dec 19, 2008 2:34 PM PST
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bobcats would not trade okafor
they wouldn’t do that.
by HoLdEmUP on
Dec 19, 2008 12:58 PM PST
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putting all the Bobcats/Warriors discussions into one trade
Not advocating this by any means, but there seems to be so much discussion regarding Maggete, Felton, Wright, Wallace, and now Okafur. I so no reson why the Cats would do it, but t workds on the Tade Machine:
Okafur, Wallace, and Felton to Warriors
Wright, Turiaf, Magette, Williams, and Azubuke to Bobcats
by BobbyLeeHurt on
Dec 19, 2008 3:02 PM PST
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terrible trade
sorry, we’re already full of bad/undesired players like maggs, jack, crawford and you want to give up azubuike, turiaf and wright, the most “warriors” of the team?
pass
=Gaucho=
by Gaucho! on
Dec 20, 2008 9:31 AM PST
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I want to? try reading b4 responding...
However, If you think the Dubs are getting the worst of this deal then you’ve lost touch with reality.
by BobbyLeeHurt on
Dec 20, 2008 9:15 PM PST
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actually you are
please do yourself a favor and go root for the sonics, ops, thunder.
=Gaucho=
by Gaucho! on
Dec 21, 2008 7:32 AM PST
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retard, it would be "actually you have"...
Also since English isn’t a strong point for you, “advocating” means “endorsing”, wait is that too big a word too? “In favor of”. Small words should help you.
However, to get rid of Maggette who ruins the chemistry of this team, and Williams who will never play another minute, you have to give up something. And giving up those 2 plus backups for some guys who would play significant minutes is an upgrade. Or do you think we can just swap Maggette for LeBron? Get off the pipe.
by BobbyLeeHurt on
Dec 21, 2008 2:16 PM PST
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