RECAP: Warriors 99, Hawks 115 - Ya Know What REALLY Grinds my Gears
by R Dizzle on Dec 19, 2008 9:58 PM PST
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PrintUpdate; The Hawks took the Celtics to 7 games last year in the playoffs, not 8. That's what I get for watching bad basketball - my mind gets all messed up.
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I think the Rim is going to feel that one for days
Jeez. I swear I've seen this game before. Close in the first half, even closer in the third, and then BAM it all slips away in the fourth. Here I am, a few hours later, thinking that I just wasted two hours of my life watching that because at the end of it all - there's just no hope for the year. It would be one thing if this happened once in a while against the really great teams, BUT NO.
Ya know what REALLY grinds my gears - THIS HAPPENS EVERY GAME.
Hit the jump...
I like the effort.
Dre Servin the Double-Doubles
I really can't knock this guy during the hard times - he comes out every night with energy and effort. It seems (and correct me if I'm wrong here) that he's got a winning mentality - he hustles hard and doesn't play outside of his game. Although I did see him take the ball up a few times (for the love of God that needs to stop), he knows his place and how to handle the ball. 6-9 shooting, 14 points, and 15 boards. Good work man.
Honestly though, he wasn't too bad with taking up the rock - maybe he should play point.
So angry...
The Hawks
This is one very very good young team. They hustle hard, run the floor, and play defense - what a nice concept. They won't be on the top of the East for another few years, but there is some high-flying talent that will soon take down the Celtics. Heck, they almost did that last year by taking the C's to 8 7 games in the first round. Yes, Josh Smith is amazing, but you've got to give players like Marvin Williams and Joe Johnson the credit they deserve. When it was close in the 4th quarter, they all turned it on and came out looking like experienced vets.
By the way, who the heck is Flip Murray and how did he score 14 points in the 4th quarter?
The Hawks are a fun team - I just wish they'd stop stealing our ideas. Sucks for them that WE BELIEVE IS DEAD.
Now let's take a quick look at the Warriors tonight...
Rob Kurz
Admittedly, I'm probably Rob Kurz's biggest fan. If you think I'm joking, I seriously own this
It's hanging right next to my We Believe shirt. I was hoping this guy would be the second coming of Matt Barnes - guy with a chip on his shoulder (undrafted), not really allowed to shoot but had the talent (see Preseason), and no one really had faith in him but one old skool coach (Nellie). After the last few games, this looked like a serious possibility that if it happened I woulda rubbed in everyone at GSoM's face - ESPECIALLY FJ, AB1, Hash YaoButtaMing, and DJ Fuzz Logic - they're all Rob Kurz haters.
They also told me David Leroy Wood was a scrub when he played for the Warriors. Ahem...let me remind you he WAS on the team after their last playoff appearance in the 90s and if CWebb and Nellie weren't having their little tiffs, they would have made the playoffs again cause DWood was going off. He was amazing yo, such a great player.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you all have no idea who DWood is but he'll probably go down as my favorite Warrior of all time.
Anyway, I guess I was hoping we would that Rob Kurz would be the second coming of David Wood. But being in the starting line up with 12 minutes, going 0 for 4, with only 2 assists and 2 boards ain't gonna cut it man. Even I can't defend that.
Looks like the rest of them are right as always. I'll be right about CJ Watson! Just you wait!
I hate you all.
His hair is awesome. Bring it back Jack!
Stephen Jackson
Man, I wish you didn't sit on the sidelines in a fly suit tonight. Wish you weren't injured still because let's face it, you were missed.
YEAH I SAID IT!
Go head, try to tell me that we couldn't have used his clutch 3s in the 4th quarter or his veteran leadership to lead us the glory land (in this case victory).
Go head, tell me that he would have turned it over 20 times, shot 4-25, and made stupid mental errors. Well, he didn't have any time today, so you can't make the claim that he would have done that. Who knows? He could have easily gone 15-20, and had a 40 point game with 10 assists.
Granted, with the way he's played lately, and with the silliness that's been going on in Warrior Land these days , I can't really claim that he woulda been playing the role of leader tonight.
But as my big homies, Grimace, the Hamburgler, and Ronald McDonald say - "It Could Happen!"
Can't say I'm Lovin' this season.
What in the world is going on in this picture?
Corey Maggette
Ok, I'm not one to question a player's injuries, but I'm going to question Corey's injuries. (What?)
Maggs is injury prone, he's always had problems, fine. We should have thought about that a bit more before we signed him to that silly contract. Nothing can be done about that now.
But when was the game he played? He's missed like 7 in a row and is he even around at the games? Something just doesn't seem right about this. It almost seems like we're running into Al Harrington's "back injury" again.
I don't know what's going on and I'm not one start rumors, but methinks Corey might not be happy, or he might not be a Warrior for very long.
I want 30 Warrior Wins for Xmas.
Anthony "Rudolph" Randolph
Now say that one ten times fast. Where you at man? Trippin that Nellie told your agent you should be traded? Hey, I'm with you, that's not a nice thing to say to a 19 year old, but this is the NBA kid!
Maybe he's just working hard with Santa trying to get kids their Wii's this year.
Who knows - but the box score says "DNP COACH'S DECISION."
That's not too great cause you were taken #14 and two undrafted rookies got more time than you.
You ain't servin' anything good tonight man.
Jamal Crawford
What happened? Did you catch the Stephen Jackson Flu or something? No consistency, poor choice in shooting, and what's this...3-15 from the floor? Please, please, please go on a hot streak so we can win a game this road trip!
I get it! He's got a long WING span!
Brandan Wright
B doing alright? Kinda catchy, I should liscence that term or something. Then I can be like those guys that jacked Vince Young's slogan.
Anywho, yes, we all have the right to ask why he's not getting more time, or even starting. Coming off the bench he came up with a career high 19 points and 8 boards in 30 minutes.
Now stop and think - what could he have done if started instead of Big Rob?
Nellie knows what he's doing...Nellie knows what he's doing...it's my new mantra.
Say it with me now...Nellie knows what he's doing.
Tony, where you at on this one?
Ronny Turiaf
My goodness. Where do you live cause I'd love to go your Block Party man!
Lame I know but 3 blocks in his time on the court is begin to show how great his timing really in on defense. I agree, blocks aren't really a great measure of good defense, but it's what we have for now so be happy.
On a side note, he's third best in the NBA in blocks per game as well as total blocks. Take a wild guess who he's behind on that one?
Yup, Dwight Howard and Marcus Camby. Don't really care cause at least we're top in the NBA on something besides most minutes per game and most points given up per game.
He looks yooooounnnggg.
Anthony Morrow
Great play as always for an undrafted rookie. Smart shots, nice touches, and nice hustle for boards. I never really have anything negative to say for this guy, mostly cause there are no expectations. If he busts out with 15 points like tonight, it's like, "Oh man, where did he come from?" If comes out with 0 points a la Rob Kurz (I'm still upset about that one) then it's simple, "Well, he's an undrafted rookie. Whateves."
Gimme 30 points 2-Morrow! (You liked that.)
I want to be Will Smith.
TICK-TICK-TICK-TICK-BOOOOOM!!!!
Well, yo, are you ready for me yet? PUMP IT R DIZZ!
I predict an explosion in the Warriors organization. Something big is about to happen - there are just waaaay too many rumors, way too many "he said she said" things going on these days for something not to go down. Whether it be a trade, a firing, a resigning, something is about to happen.
Will it be Maggs, Randolph, or Wright being traded?
Will Nellie step down or worse, get fired?
Say it with me now...Nellie knows what he's doing.
Will Mullin get fired?
Will Cohan do us all a favor and sell the team to GSoM so we can turn this thing around?
I seriously hope for the last one because I have no problem with the rest of the guys running the front office while I try to go one-on-one with Rob Kurz during practice to get him to be a better shot blocker.
Not again...
Check out the kid with the basketball on his head!
Why do I have to keep this? It's not fair!
Yes, Marco Belinelli gets the honors for the night. Congratulations on another career high game with 27 points and 6 assists. Looks like I might have to put down the Haterade soon...but not yet!
One More Thing
Happy Holidays to all Warriors and GSoM fans! This will probably be my last post until 2k9, so hope everyone has a good holiday and takes some time to enjoy the company of friends and family. Be safe, and see you in 2009!
I'm got "More Warriors Wins" on my XMas list - what's on yours?
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Rob Kurz hatin'?
Man that wasn’t me. I hope he blows up!
by Atma Brother ONE on Dec 19, 2008 10:05 PM PST reply actions
Maggs
I sure hope it is simply them waiting for him being 100% – could use his offense and getting us to the ft line.
I thought you were going to chicken out
and give the Warrior Wonder to BWright instead of Marco. Nice job for manning up.
haha
so that was why you said wait 20 mins.
by The Golden One on Dec 19, 2008 10:19 PM PST reply actions
Gotta love the Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff
One of the best hip hop duos of all time!
We still believe!!
Makes ya forget all about
that Rowell is trying to trade Ellis for Dampier for a min.
You know some will probably believe me. ha
by The Golden One on Dec 19, 2008 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
hey
if they are trying to give wright or randolph or both just for felton ill believe anything these days
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 19, 2008 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
it's probably like MT2 is speculating on his blog (based on his contacts), a rumor the Bobcats put out there to generate more trade interest in Felton
and that 90% of Warriors fans fell for despite how ridiculous it is especially now that Hendrix was cut and the need to make a 2 for 1 trade to prevent any cuts is gone.
by the evil monkey on Dec 19, 2008 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
an explosion in the Warriors organization...my predictions for 2009
nelly is gunna be gone
maggs is gunna be gone
williams is gunna be gone
wright/randolph are gunna stay
CJ might be gone too (i hope)
we get AVERY
we go on a tear when ellis returns, crawford lights stuff up with ellis, randolph begins to dominate, wright continues his explosion, our new big guy fits right in.
i hope all my xmas wishes come true!
oh also, ellis returns dec 26th to own the celtics at roaracle
Whats with the CJ hate?
I CJ is a serviceable back-up point with a decent jump shot, OK dribbling/passing. He seems to clog the passing lanes well hes just not that good at finishing on the other end.
Whats with all the CJ watson hate? Did I miss something?
If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh
I'm with you man
I like CJ, brings heart to the game, always goes for boards…what’s there to complain about? He does what he’s supposed to
We still believe!!
ok heres why i hate him
1) hes a ball hog, for someone whos supposed to be a true point
2) he is terrible on the fast break
3) his handles arent that great
4) hes terrible on D
5) hes terrible rebounding in general
6) we dont need him with: ellis, crawford, bellineli, and demarcus nelson
( i strongly believe demarcus is better than him as a true point, hes way better on D, hes a better passer, hes a better finisher, hes WAY better on the fast break)
simply…we dont need CJ
are you talking about cj watson?
whoever said he’s supposed to be a true point?
by so ill so d0pe on Dec 20, 2008 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
all i’m sayin is that no one ever claimed him to be a true point
he simply just fits into nelson’s four combo guard/swingman rotation
by so ill so d0pe on Dec 20, 2008 1:02 AM PST up reply actions
Atma you're an idiot...
… If you really think Nelson is a good coach who’s NOT mailing every game in at this point. Randolph is a good player; the lack of a consistent rotation is really hurting this team.
dang man
where did that come from?
if that’s about his post earlier about Nellie and Mullin having a hissy fit, maybe u should post it there.
Also, no calling people “idiots” on my posts – only Holiday cheer.
We still believe!!
you know, you and Atma do look similar, i can see why he’s confused. LOL
by Fantasy Junkie on Dec 19, 2008 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
LIES!
Not only am I much cuter, I’m also taller.
You’re just mad cause you know Rob Kurz is going to break out soon…
We still believe!!
Break out? Break out with what? Pimples?
by Fantasy Junkie on Dec 20, 2008 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t understand why people think it’s okay to call other people idiots. You’ve posted a total of 3 comments on GSOM and you think you can come here act like that?
hv23, how about this, you write a fan post? You want to critique us? Well, that will be our chance to see how wonderfully smart you are.
by Fantasy Junkie on Dec 19, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
technically, Randolph is not a good player right now.
i just read (and was so surprised by it) that i googled and verified another poster’s comments on another blog and Randolph’s team, LSU was 13-18 last season… his high school team was 13-15 his senior year and never won a district playoff game in his 2 years there… how many HS and college teams have losing records sporting an NBA player on their team? it’s got to be close to zero, if not zero. and this guy’s a good NBA player? there is no way a good NBA player let’s that happen.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/062508dnsporandolph.23e17ad.html
by the evil monkey on Dec 19, 2008 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
very interesting, just shows how raw he is
game time will NOT make him better. If anything it will make him terribly unconfident from missing so many shots and traveling more than the travelocity gnome.
I enjoyed this game. Sure, we didn’t get the win, but we got something more important: a glimpse of Good Don Nelson.
We played with two big men throughout. Two! That’s the right number! This may’ve been affected by Jack’s absence, but it was still good to see. (Incidentally, Jack sitting out was a good sign, too. Sitting an injured, ineffective player in a lost season is the kind of baseline coach intelligence Nellie hasn’t been showing lately.) For one night, at least, Nellie adapted, and shelved his beloved smallball.
Rob Kurz starting an NBA game is an absolute joke… Rob Kurz starting an NBA game over Brandan Wright is French farce. But Nellie adapted. He recognized Kurz was playing terribly, gave Wright a shot, and then kept going back to Wright on account of his success. Pretty obvious coaching, but given what we’ve seen from Nellie recently, this was refreshing. Here’s hoping Wright continues to get the opportunities that his play merits.
I actually didn’t think this was one of Wright’s better game by any means… he made a number of mistakes. But the positives he brings to the court — offensive rebounding, smart scoring underneath, energy and length of defense — are apparent even when he’s off his form… it was no surprise we did better when he was in. I really, really, really hope Nellie noticed that.
It’s been fun to watch Marco develop. It must be noted — as good as his first half was, his second half was awful. In the first half he looked like a deeply intelligent offensive player, scoring, passing and cutting at all the right times. In the second half he looked like a totally overmatched scatterbrain who shouldn’t be in the league. Having said all that, he’s showing more than I would’ve expected.
Six assists from Biedrins was nice… that guy’s good. Azubuike did his usual thing, and Morrow had a nice game… I like Morrow’s nose for rebounds. Jamal Crawford was pretty bad, and not just because of the shooting… the ball movement, which looked so good under Marco, slowed to a crawl every time Crawford took over. Crawford gets some assists, but they almost all seem to be of the “showtime pass out of isolation” variety, not of the “normal offense executed well” variety. I like that guy. I do not like his game. Jamal Crawford is deeply overrated.
But I’ll tell you who else is getting pretty overrated, especially among Dubs fans: Ronny Turiaf. He’s a solid defensive player, but by no means great, and he’s an offensive liability — he’s been showing Foyle-bad hands around the basket. I like him a lot, and I think he’s a useful role player for us, in a spark-off-the-bench sort of way, but he doesn’t bring nearly as much to the table as Brandan Wright does right now. Brandan Wright’s biggest weakness as a player is defensive rebounding, and Turiaf’s even worse at it than Wright.
There was real stuff to build on in this game. The team played well when Wright was in, and the offense often flowed quite well under Marco. Those are interesting developments. Let’s hope Nellie tries to build on those developments tomorrow, instead of doing some other random stuff for fun.
"Kid with the basketball on his head"
Is totally awesome.
Is that like Warrior Nation’s answer to the old New Orleans’ Saints paper bags?
When do we all get to start wearing these?
OBAMA AMABO
Edit
Yeah, basketball-dome kid appears to be a Hawks fan. In any case, I covet his headgear.
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 20, 2008 1:48 AM PST up reply actions
LOL^^^
But how long do you think Nelson will play big. He said his bigs don;t rebound but i think i speak for everyone when i say that we play better going big than small and the bigs have a better chance of rebounding and winning,
Great post R Dizzle,
It was a fun game to watch. At this point, since we got nothing to play for, a good loss is something to root for. Brandan Wright looked good, hopefully he gets some more pt and can really get a chance to develop his game.
The Warriors soap opera keeps getting better and better. Now Nellie and Jackson have a problem? Wow. How about this, we put Nelson, Mullin, Rowell, Riley, Smart, D’ellasandro, Jackson, Ellis, and Randolph is a cage with 1 wooden club in it and the guy to walk out of there can be Cohan’s guy and get 100% control of the team. I got my money on Jack.
What is the status of our petitions to fire Robert Rowell and have Chris Cohan commit Hari Kiri, or at least sell the team?
by warriorsscore110 on Dec 20, 2008 8:56 AM PST reply actions
A few edits to the otherwise excellent plan
1. Remove Moped and Rudolph from cage.
2. Insert Cohan, Maggette, and Crawford in cage with the other fellows you listed.
3. Insert cage in NASA rocket bound for Mars.
4. Blast off!
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 20, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Nothing is going to happen this season
just ask Nellie to Retire, Jack to Retire and Trade Maggs on Draft day
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
Let me do my best jae impersonation,
You cant trade Maggette on draft day. He canonly be traded when the free agent signing period starts, typically the second week of july.
What is the status of our petitions to fire Robert Rowell and have Chris Cohan commit Hari Kiri, or at least sell the team?
by warriorsscore110 on Dec 20, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
....cannot be traded until the free agent....*^^
What is the status of our petitions to fire Robert Rowell and have Chris Cohan commit Hari Kiri, or at least sell the team?
by warriorsscore110 on Dec 20, 2008 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Let me do my best jae impersonation,
"canonly " ? italian pastry?
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 20, 2008 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I love the Bwright wingspan image btw
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
Marco needed help that night
It sucks to be a young player, happy to be getting minutes, shooting good, while everyone else ISN’T (or the ones that do don’t get time i.e. BWright)…i bet the kid’s also thinking: “hey i can shoot all of it, but then they’ll think i’m Maggette!”
He’s no veteran..he’s no leader…yet….that’s where we were missing Jackson (BARON).
You noticed Beli looked tired by the 4th….or everyone was just panicking with the slip to the finish line.
Ronny needs to get tips from Goose on how to catch assists man.
Crawford...
was the worst player on the floor tomight – both clubs. I’m so tired of his pull-up jumpers on the break or when bringing it up the floor. Take it to the rim or pass the ball. You notice that Bellinelli has more of a PG attitude that Crawford. He is always looking to make a play – with shot as a secondary option. Granted he tries a bit too much to make spectacular plays at times – but so does our “leader” S. Jackson. Dare I say that Bellinelli should start the rest of the season or at least be the sixth man.
BTW – why does everyone keep blaming Harrington for his fake injury. The Warriors organization benched him and claimed injury in order to open a roster spot.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
"Does anyone know why we started out 5-6? Did we play easier teams or something?"
No ,the vets were healthier and Nellie played them more.
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 20, 2008 3:13 PM PST reply actions
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