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but if Baron's leaving and Chauncey's arrival in Denver (George Karl, Nellie disciple) has proven anything, it's that this system is one good PG away from a quantum leap in production.

look at D'Antoni and the Suns 21-40 (under him) the season before Nash and a one year wonder in Denver at 14-36 (50 game season). that Suns team was 29-53 - though it had the trade of Marbury, Penny & throw-ins for McDyess, Eisley, Ward & throw-ins - they still had Amare for 55 games, Marion, Joe Johnson, and Barbosa. guys who were scorers at the time, but not playmakers (though JJ has gotten better at this through the years). it wasn't a change in style - the pace went from 92.6 (5th in the league) to 95.9 (1st) that made a 29 win team a 62 win team.

a good PG isn't about assists, it's about puting all the dubs in their correct spots position and court wise. it's about allowing them to work less for good looks. follow me for a 2nd, i've noticed AB's defense has dipped this season. Jack's too. (Nellie pointed out and Lepper confirmed that Andris was having trouble defending screen-roll and Andris defensive rebound rate has dropped from 26.2 to 24.9). Jack is one thing, but why would AB's effort on d drop? could just be the 4 more minutes per game, but it also could be what he's doing in those minutes - expending tons of energy on offense just to get up shots.

this coming draft, while supposedly not as hyped, has some PG prospects. obviously, no guarantee that we draft the right guy or that he's ready in year one, but there is a realistic chance to pick up a decent PG in the next lottery. although it's always possible that management (no matter whose in charge) screws it up and drafts another swing man. and it doesn't mean we should go out and buy season tickets b/c we drafted a PG - it's easier to punish ownership for this season by not reupping or purchasing them the next. doesn't mean we'll be 33 games or even 16 games better, but we will be better. how good? depends, looks like a Baron level guy could get you to the 40-50 win range in this system and looks like a Nash could get you in the 50-60. Hardaway? maybe 35-45. some believe Monta can do it. i'm not convinced either way on that one. btw, it's not a tanking or not issue. we have 2 or 3 so-so Barbosa level creators and a team full of guys who are built to finish with no one to create those opportunities for them. we don't even have a Kobe or AI level guy that can get Turiaf easy buckets... and this entire post is all moot if we switch systems.

D'Antoni coaching record, http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/dantomi01c.html

Lepper defensive rebounding rate, http://48minutes.net/2008/12/18/thoughts-on-game-no-26-pacers-127-warriors-120/

Lepper AB's screen roll, http://48minutes.net/2008/12/16/thoughts-on-game-no-25-magic-109-warriors-98/

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Top-10 lottery pick gets us a PG

Top-10 lottery pick should get us a legit PG (Holiday, Rubio, Jennings or Curry). At this point, I pretty much say go sucko for the year, play the youth, and grab one of those legit PGs. My money is on NYC doing what it takes to get Rubio, but Holiday, Curry and Jennings should be realistic.

by b.radley on Dec 20, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

If we want to win right away, we get a point guard with experience via trade and get a guy like Greg Monroe in the draft. The point is the most important position in the game and you don’t want to give it to a kid and wait around for him to develop

by Somar on Dec 21, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i like maynor from virginia commonwealth. Could be better than most those guys at PG (except rubio but hes coming 2010)

by Warriors510 on Dec 22, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

RUBIO is a true point guard

He plays excellent defense and is a great passer. What a novelty.

by b.radley on Dec 20, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Point Guard

I don’t like Curry or Jennings. I think they’re more like scoring guards, such as a Monta Ellis or Jamal Crawford. I do like Rubio, though.

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 20, 2008 5:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

any point

i’ll take anyone who can get us to 50 to 60 wins . but at the same time we wouldn’t be like this if we just would of kept baron davis. if that was the case all we needed was a big time PF

by GSW9 on Dec 20, 2008 8:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

we need a true point

not a scorer point

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 20, 2008 10:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Baron was a scorer point

He wasn’t high up there in assist, and he was way up there in points, and it worked for us.

by Golden Boy on Dec 21, 2008 12:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't high in assists?

u do know he was 6th in the league in assists last year, and 5th the year before. know ur facts

by AJC3317 on Dec 21, 2008 2:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

about rubio

according to draftexpress.com, hes not going to be in the draft next year. hes going to finish out his contract with his spanish team

"beans"= the worst nickname ever

by dubshoops on Dec 21, 2008 2:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There goes one PG we will not get but

Baron was to 10 in assist with 7.6 a game but I think Monta could be a good PG for us and average 6 or7 assits a game

by GSW9 on Dec 22, 2008 11:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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