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RECAP: Warriors 117, Raptors 111 - Can't Stop Smilin'!

 

Oh yes! THAT was a Warriors team that I hadn't seen in quite some time. Granted, we did just beat the Celtics, but the one stone I'll throw in that department is that the Celtics were not playing anywhere near top form. Again, not to take away from our win at all; after all the Celts are the best team in the league - but tonight...

Well, tonight was just good all around. The Raptors weren't playing like crap at all which means that we strung together 48 minutes well enough to beat a team with some serious threatening components. Oh me. Oh my.

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"Ladies and Gentlemen step right up. We got a shootaaaah!!!!!"

Okay, before I go any further, it should be said that I was one of the many who did not get the chance to enjoy the first quarter and a half of this game due to the Sharks. For some ungodly reason, I don't get CSN+, despite me using the very company that the channel is named after. Seriously, I think it's an error and I need to call them, Not sure what that's about.

So as pleased as I was to cut into the game to see Jax with 15, Kabuki with 9 (on 4 of 6 shooting), CJ with 7 (off of only two shots) and the Warriors shooting 51%, I was a little disappointed to miss so much of what looked like rarely seen top caliber Warriors basketball. So... yea. Thanks for that Comcast.

Then again, it's hard to hold a grudge against a company that gives me Back to The Future AND Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure On Demand so that I can watch them whenever I please. Man, how the Academy Awards passed over Bill and Ted that year is something that keeps me up nights...

Let's get back to the game, shall we?

 

J-J-J-JUMP!!

Star-divide

 

So what was the first thing I saw after joining the regularly scheduled broadcast? Why it was Belinelli with a buzzer beating three! Followed by Belinelli with another three on the next possession! Is this what you guys got to watch in the first 22 minutes of the game? Now I'm really jealous. And headed to my On-Demand menu to see if they've posted the game yet.

Truth be told, all I really needed to see was the last 2 minutes of the first half to get a taste of what the Oracle saw in the first 24. The Warriors were looking tight. Passes were finding their targets and no open looks were going to waste. We actually looked like..

well...

like an NBA team. How's about that?!

And just like the Warriors of yesteryear, when this team is on point, they are extremely fun to watch. I was fortunate to be treated to more of this display in the first half of the third quarter where it seemed like everyone was getting in on the fun. There was Belinelli with yet another three. There was CJ was a three. There was Crawford with a three. There was Biedrins with a no look pass to Jackson as he cut through the paint. Seriously, who the hell were these guys?!

I think the entire Warriors organization owes it to the fan base to retrace every step taken today in the Oracle to find out what caused the Warriors to be able to play like this. My bet is they changed the toilet paper in the locker room to quilted. You'd be surprised how much a difference that can make.

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Recent studies have proven a direct link between quilted toilet paper and high percentage three point shooting.

Okay. so we didn't DOMINATE the Raptors. Despite the Warriors excellent play in the first two and half quarters, there were a few times where they got pretty careless. All the credit in the world to the Raptors; they capitalized on this like crazy. As the third wound down, we were treated to some good old fashioned Warriors frustration in the form of a S-Jax T and our once 15 point lead whittled down to 7.

I'll admit, while I wasn't all that shocked to see Jax get a T, I was a bit surprised to see Ronny land his in the start of the fourth. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not upset. Tonight we saw the Warriors play 48 minutes with a fire and passion that we haven't seen in an extremely long time. While I'll never encourage the Dubs to lose control of their emotions; if the energy we saw on the floor tonight comes bundled with a technical here or there, I say bring it on.

As the fourth continued, the Raptors were doing a magnificent job of clawing back into the game. Their countless second chance opportunities were stressful to watch; I recall one possession where we gave the Raptors about 5 offensive chances due to our inability to grab a board.

With three minutes and change in the game, the Raptors had closed the gap to two points and, with the momentum on their side, were well on their way to getting their first win in Oakland in about 4 years.

And then there was C.J...

Was it his clutch midrange jumper over Bosh to lift us to a 4 point lead in the final minute? Yes. Was it his steal that he grabbed on the other side of the floor allowing Jamal to sink another free throw? Yes. Was it his deflection on the next inbound pass that put the ball back into the Warriors' hands up 5 with 26 seconds left?! Why yes it was!

Shall we close it with a breakdown? Okay okay. Breakdown it is.

  • S-Jax with 30 points, 7 dimes, and 7 boards? Beeyootiful.
  • Belinelli with 8 dimes and 23 point that included a stellar 5-8 from deep? Gorgeous.
  • Biedrins with a double double that included a whopping 15 boards? Stunning.
  • Kabuki with 18 off of an icy smooth 8-10 shooting? Magnificent.
  • CJ with yet another clutch finish to lift us to a W? BANGIN!
  • Calderon with 21 point and 16 (Sixteen!) dimes?! What's that? He's what? Oh. He's on the other team. Still, you gotta respect 16 dimes! Dishy dishy.

Overall it was a great game to watch. Now if you'll excuse me, I got a date with On Demand.

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Yea. I'm a little torn here. I'm giving this one the Jax, ignoring his 4 turnovers and focusing on his other contributions all over the floor tonight. But HUGE cap tips go to Belinelli for shooting with a sniper scope tonight and C.J. for being C.J. when it counted.

 

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cj.

just pisses me off sometimes, we always messes up on the fast breaks..

but

by gswfan1 on Dec 29, 2008 11:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I remember back then I used to jump out of my seat whenever the Warriors were on a fastbreak, because I knew something crazy would happen. But this season, I don’t even get excited when a fastbreak develops since I always expect them to screw it up (and they do most of the time). They are improving, though.

But yeah. Anyways, from now on Warriors fans should do a “ROCKY!” chant everytime Marco’s at the free throw line! haha. Or, we can do a ROCKY chant every time he has the ball in his hands, or every time he makes a three pointer. I don’t know.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Dec 30, 2008 2:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ya, like when he nails HUGE shots in the fourth quarter of Boston and Toronto wins

if we gotta take the good with the bad with marco, we gotta do same with CJ … just saying

by hardcore on Dec 30, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but

every time he goes up for a jumper and makes it.,,(specially in the 4th quarter), i forget all about it

by gswfan1 on Dec 29, 2008 11:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to figure out what they were chanting! Have I been so out of the loop that I never saw the comparison of Marco and Stallone??? Haha.

On an extremely girly change of conversation…I’m totally falling for Bellinelli, haha. I guess that’s what happens when the only games I’ve been able to see from beginning to end was the Celtics game and today’s. Call me blessed, haha.

I love Fantasy Basketball. I take great pleasure in beating all the boys in my league every week.

by bphi159 on Dec 29, 2008 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you're not the only one

ima dude and im hella on rocky’s jock right now

MARCO SIGN MY BABY!!!!

"beans"= the worst nickname ever

by dubshoops on Dec 29, 2008 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Rocky can be a W's new mascot :D

Their stupidity is actually entertaining

by Skeptic con Urquell

by Lat We N Trash on Dec 30, 2008 12:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Their stupidity is actually entertaining

by Skeptic con Urquell

by Lat We N Trash on Dec 30, 2008 12:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Their stupidity is actually entertaining

by Skeptic con Urquell

by Lat We N Trash on Dec 30, 2008 1:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ey yo Adrian!!!!

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 30, 2008 3:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

need to add a

shady lit’l beard there!

by hardcore on Dec 30, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the Rocky chants for Marco!

  Isn’t that a dis? Marco is not a stubby little second rate actor( is he?) any NBA player is greater than Rocky.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 30, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rocky's only the best boxer ever created

He beat the heavyweight champ, Mr. T, and a roided up Russian machine who killed Appolo in the ring, loved Adrian, drank raw eggs for breakfast, etc. He was a bada**. If people were comparing me to that guy, I wouldn’t complain.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 30, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rocky's only the best boxer ever created

  Yeah, Put Stallone in the ring with Ali and see how long he lives, and I’m talking about the sick Ali, not Ali in his prime :>)

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 30, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Er ...

You know “Rocky” and Sylvester Stallone aren’t one and the same, right?

Hugh Jackman doesn’t actually have adamantium claws, Tobey Maguire can’t actually stick to walls, Jessica Alba can’t actually project invisible force fields, etc….

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Dec 30, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but she can sure swim all sexy like in a bikini

but i’m not talking about preggo-with-my-baby alba

by Dr. Orpheus on Dec 30, 2008 8:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

During halftime, they showed an interview with him, and he said his favorite movie was “Rocky” and that people always say that he looks like Sylvester Stallone. That’s why they started calling him that.

by heavyccasey on Dec 30, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

In The Paint With Marco Belinelli
Franco: What is you favorite movie?
MB: Rocky
Franco: Growing up who did people tell you you looked like?
MB: Sylvester Stallone

That was pretty funny

If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh

by StephenO4 on Dec 29, 2008 11:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that was great

also when he was talking about t.i. and everyone just cracked up. fantastic.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Dec 30, 2008 12:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man

That wasn’t better than Buke singing Boyz II Men – I’ll Make Love to You to Maggette.
Than the camera was pointed at Buke, his reaction, hilarious.

If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh

by StephenO4 on Dec 30, 2008 12:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

Wasn’t the person in charge of the Warriors Youtube account a GSoM member. He or She might have the videos on file.

If I am wrong i will respond with a D'Oh

by StephenO4 on Dec 30, 2008 12:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was hilarious

That’s the reason why we all started chanting ROCKYYY

by disguy on Dec 30, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so pleased

i generally get to see the warriors at the roaracle once a year, flying in from minneapolis. tonight was that night for me. cj played spectacular ball, and jack was great. and marco, well, marco was impressive. he was shooting the lights out in the first half, but what was more impressive was when, in the second half, not everything was falling and he didn’t force it. he let the game come to him and made his free throws while the crowd chanted ROCKY! ROCKY! amazing. i’ve officially moved from “skeptical” to “cautiously optimistic” about marco. i’m not sure if he’ll keep playing this well, but i can’t assume he won’t either.

crawford on the other hand was terrible. the worst player on the court every time he stepped out on it. quick pointer for him, if someone passes you the ball on the perimeter, it is a bad offensive gameplan to wait a second dribble two or three times and chuck up a long two with a hand in your face. i was elated whenever he got yanked.

not to end on a downer though, fantastic game. team played great and nellie in that bright red t-shirt, it was like his santa jumpsuit was on under a blazer. loved every minute of it.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Dec 29, 2008 11:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Marco

So we have him for this year since we picked up his third year option. Actually, he has a four year contract, with the 4th year being a team option as well, so we should have him for next year as well.

Time for Fear The Rocky?

btw – I put him in my fantasy league, and he hasn’t tanked!

by mosdl on Dec 30, 2008 12:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent game :)

I actually went without a sign today (economy’s got me cutting back on the printing lol) so i went in as your average fan :-) it feels real good getting a win! Last 4 games were all a bust (but still a great time out!)

by Tony.psd on Dec 30, 2008 12:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

hey!h

ahah i saw you at the fountains after the game in front of the team store. i was wondering why you didnt have a sign

by bun on Dec 30, 2008 12:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I ask myself the same question

that I asked myself after the Celtics win: why did they bother going after Maggette and get saddled with the big contract?? They don’t even need him.

by centerre on Dec 30, 2008 12:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

to use him

to get baron back!

by DeepS on Dec 30, 2008 12:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1000000000000000000000

that’s what the kids say now, right? that means i agree, or something…

josh Howard 4 President! We need a REAL black man in the white house!

by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 30, 2008 1:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They didn’t want the Clippers to be better than them

by heavyccasey on Dec 30, 2008 1:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nellie

I was a little ticked off Nellie pulled Belinelli some time in the fourth in favor of Crawford. It all worked out, though.

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 30, 2008 12:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

ya, same

belli mighta been tired tho

by DeepS on Dec 30, 2008 12:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He took a really bad 3pt shot attempt

And nellie yanked him. Might have been to give him a breather.

by mosdl on Dec 30, 2008 1:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was excited to see Belli back in

after Crawford was screwing up and not making the shots he should be making

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Dec 30, 2008 1:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wanted to comment about this

because that was when the raptors got within 2 when marco was on the bench. And I dont think its a coincidence that we pulled ahead when he came back in. That game was awesome last night and I want to give props to Turiaf too, every game I appreciate what he does more and more

"Maybe I need somebody that can save me from the parts of myself that keep making me crazy" -Slug-

by drizztismoneybaby on Dec 30, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Important to give guys breathers

When our guys are tired, they force up 3pters. So marco was given a breather. Personally I would have tried morrow since their defense was sucking and we were getting clear 3 pt shots (morrow’s specialty).

by mosdl on Dec 30, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He was out with “flu-like symptoms”.

by heavyccasey on Dec 30, 2008 12:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bullcrap

He “hurt his knee” in the first half and didn’t want to return to the game….

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Dec 30, 2008 1:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well

if you had Buike run into you, you would be hurt to dam muscles

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 30, 2008 3:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Views At The Game

I went and was so excited to sit in section 121 row 21 seat 5 & 6 with my mom. Of course she didn’t know what she was watching but I had a great time there. Some observations….
1. Marco’s looking PRETTY legit….. He has crafty passing skills, great on court i.q., probably the BEST shot selection on this team, and he plays something called DEFENSE!!! Manu 2.0…. He just now has to learn how to get fouled on the drive and he will be the Italian Stallion because he already knows how to flop to the key!
2. Turiaf & Beans- Love the guys….. ALWAYS fights for every board and blocks every shot possible…. Turiaf brings the energy off the bench and Beans stays in his game at all times…..
3. Crawford- Ummm, Maybe we are better off without him…. He couldn’t shoot and do anything well tonight. He didn’t do anything really well tonight except for break a couple of ankles….. I know we shouldn’t trade for the sake of training but I’m hoping maybe packaging him with Maggs could bring back….. Um…… Somebody…..

Until Monta comes back, I’d like to see the CJ, Belli, Jax, Wright, & Beans….. Buike, CrawDaddy, Turiaf & Morrow a bit of Morrow…. Maggs…. Keep him in street clothes if possible with his hamstring injury like Harrington was with his back….

Let’s keep this swagger on the team and finish the end of 08 strong on the road!

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Dec 30, 2008 1:13 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

dam

i use to remember when those seats were affordable :(

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 30, 2008 3:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, $80

per seat…. If I didn’t have a friend that worked there I would be in the best seat in the house (The Couch)

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Dec 30, 2008 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Only negative for me

is that Wright got yanked after limited first quarter minutes even though he was effective.

As much as i’ve knocked CJ, he’s become a deadly mid range shooter. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a Mo Williams type career on another team.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Dec 30, 2008 2:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What really stands out in that video?

Biedrins with the up & under reverse layup.
Biedrins with the crazy WR catch on the bullet pass through the lane.

I’m so happy this guy is on our team. Yeah, maybe DHo would have dunked the first one, but there’s no way he makes the second play. Biedrins is silky smooth.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Dec 30, 2008 7:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

here is the nice version

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=_6daTLfi0_Y

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 30, 2008 7:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hash great recap,

It all starts with the captainS, Beidrins and Turiaf down in the middle and Jack running the show. Buike had a great game and re-established some of the trust the fans have in him. What has gotten in to CJ being mister clutch of late? Thatguy has no confidence issue.

But Marco has been man of late! He is showing that he can play 1 or 2 and is letting it go. His defense is solid. Man imagine how good he will be NEXT year, when he has a year under his belt and a training camp with a coach who trusts him….

What is the status of our petitions to fire Robert Rowell and have Chris Cohan commit Hari Kiri, or at least sell the team?

by warriorsscore110 on Dec 30, 2008 8:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

how many times

when the dubs we absolutely gassed did crawford hurry the ball down the court and jack a three with 22 seconds left on the shot clock—the raps get a long rebound and an easy fast break—i mean??? crawford has quickly become my most hated W. man, you better go for fifty if you jack up 25+ shots.

the stop calling him "beans" movement

by pervisNeverNervous on Dec 30, 2008 10:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm giving this one the Jax,

 Should go to Kopono for missing all those shots.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 30, 2008 10:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hey i was laughting at the

ROCKY ROCKY ROCKY! chant. I hope Marco is not offended.

brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Dec 30, 2008 11:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

He's not

Like someone mentioned earlier, they did the “In The Paint” Segment with Marco.

His favorite movie is Rocky.

He also admitted that most people tell him that he looks like Stallone.

by disguy on Dec 30, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Marco is simple minded ... WTF dude ?

  Haha, Simple minded? He;ll be offended by that though!

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 30, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Key to wins over both Boston and Toronto was "Euro-ball" as opposed to "small ball"

penetrating and moving the ball ala playing hot potato was the key and probably will be for the forseeable future – standing around isolating someone on the wing (small ball) didn’t work but player and ball movement combined resulted in open looks, more O-board opportunities, better team mojo, and a better and more entertaining brand of ballin …

Nelson needs to show those film clips before each game – “see guys, that’s how we win”

by hardcore on Dec 30, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dude why didn’t Nellie play Wright more than 8 minutes? Play the young guys! Nellie sucks.

Oh wait, oh we won? Nevermind. Nellie is a genius.

by Fantasy Junkie on Dec 30, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That was the only frustrating part of the game…sigh

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Dec 30, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you guys kidding me?

Did everyone watch a different game than I did? I’m gonna be that guy again and rain on the GSOM parade after a win. After a loss, I sometimes feel like the W’s played to their ability and I am alright with an L (for example, @ Boston or @ Houston). Sometimes after a win, I feel like it was a loss because of the way it went down. Tonight was one of those night’s.

I’m sorry, but I don’t know how else to say this: Warriors fans need to wake up. Just because the W’s got a home win doesn’t mean it was a good game. Fans need to be questioning the leadership and decision making of their team after every game, regardless of outcome. There are way, way too many people on this board who are super duper excited after a win (“Rocky baby,” “Stack Jack is back,” or “CJ is so clutch!!!”) and these are the same people who want Nellie’s head after every loss. This results-oriented thinking is backwards and counter-productive.

I didn’t feel like either team played particularly well. In fact I thought it was ugly basketball. The W’s won because they shot well (50% from the field, 50% from 3) and because they were playing at home. If either of those don’t occur, they lose this game.

Then there are the daily inexcusable coaching blunders:

  • Jackson plays 48 minutes in a December game against Toronto. Really? We couldn’t find any rest for him? Anyone want to shed some light here?
  • Fantasy Junkie just mentioned this above, but it is worth repeating: Less than 8 minutes for Brandan Wright.
  • Small-ball lineups in the 4th quarter (CJ, Jamal, Jax, Kelenna, AB) again. In a related story, this was when CB4 dominated the inside and Toronto got back into a game that should have been over in the 3rd quarter.
  • Neither Anthony Randolph nor Anthony Morrow got off the bench. In a December game against Toronto

Nellie just got lucky that:

1) CJ hit those two big shots late in the game – If the W’s are banking on CJ Watson hitting the clutch 4th quarter shots, then we will deserve every one of those ping pong balls come springtime. What if he misses? Do the W’s still win?

2) He was the best coach on the court tonight. How could the Toronto coach not run every single play through Bosh in the 4th quarter? Which Warrior on the court was going to effectively guard him?

Once again, sorry for being that guy, but I thought last night’s game was garbage, and I felt it shed more light as to why the W’s are 13 games under .500 than any 30 point blowout loss in San Antonio could.

by UncleCliffy on Dec 30, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

small ball

in this game, the raptors played as much small ball as the warriors. bosh was their only true big on the court most of the game. and he’s a pf. humphries played spectacularly for them, but he’s not a true big. sort of a combo forward more than anything. and he was shooting the lights out in the fourth. that was what kept the raps involved. wright wasn’t going to be able to guard him any better than our guys on the court.

you say “which warrior on the court” could have guarded bosh as though there was someone on the bench that could have. who do you bring in to shut down chris bosh? the guy is very very good. not many teams have a bosh stopper. the warriors got lucky that he was the only big on the team (and no bargnani does not count. he is useless).

as far as the “in a december game, against toronto” talk is concerned, this was a game that the warriors can win. it’s not as though an april game against cleveland is going to matter more. in fact, i’d rather see the young guys get playing time in games we probably won’t win as opposed to games where we can. these are the exact sort of games that jack should be playing most (or all) of. the games against teams that are a little better than us, but that the warriors can win. those are (sadly enough, this year) our playoff games. i don’t see much to complain about last night.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Dec 30, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hack

The Raps played small ball because O’Neal was hurt (or sick), not because they wanted to play that way. The absence of O’Neal gave Nellie a dumb excuse to go small, and just because the W’s won the game does not mean the strategy worked. As you say, Humphries “played spectacularly.” I have watched Humphries both in person (in Vegas summer league) and on TV, and I can say without hesitation that he is one of the worst players in the NBA. His offensive rebounding is the only thing that keeps him in the league. And yet he “played spectacularly.” Think about that.

I’m not saying that any Warrior, past or present, was going to guard Bosh last night. But going small against a dominant power forward can’t possibly be the best idea, can it? A combination of Randolph and Wright (and Turiaf/AB of course) might have been more effective, and should have at least been tried.

With regard to my comments about a December game against Toronto, I think you have it completely backwards. Last year, there were a bunch of winnable games in December. Nellie played his starters excessive minutes, did not substitute appropriately with younger, fresher legs, and the W’s have now paid for it twice: once, last season when the starters fell apart at the end of the season and again this year when Wright et al were not ready (and some would argue still not ready) to play due to inexperience.

And considering the W’s were on a back to back, isn’t that just another reason to spread out the minutes?

by UncleCliffy on Dec 30, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

fair points

don’t get me wrong, i don’t think the raps WANTED to play small, but that doesn’t change the fact that they did. what i was saying is that, without 2 bigs, and with kris humphries, baffling as it was, shooting really well from long range, i wouldn’t put wright out to guard him. jack is a better perimeter defender than wright. it was because the raptors sent 4 guys out who could drill threes (once again, i’m as surprised as you to count humphries among them) that they couldn’t send the double to bosh. i don’t pretend to understand humphries good game, but it wasn’t because no one was guarding him. he was nailing contested long range jumpers, the exact shot you want the raptors taking.

and this year december games versus toronto have an entirely different connotation than last year. last year, we were in the playoff hunt. i still think you play your starters heavy minutes in every close game when you are in (especially when your bench is not playing well). this year is different, but the strategy in these situations is the same. come home with wins when you can get ‘em. i don’t want to see randolph playing 10 minutes last night because, despite his potential, that could cost us the game. there aren’t going to be many dogfights this year, so it’s okay to let jack run for all 48 in them. it’s games that can be won that the dubs should go after hard. it’s the games that are out of reach (either in our favor or the opposition, although it is rare for us to be on the right side of a blowout) that the young guys should get lots of burn. we aren’t going to take the lakers at staples very often with this roster, might as well roll the dice with randolph then. not when we’re in a fight with a team we can beat.

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by cap'n hack on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think no matter what the Warriors play ugly every game, no matter if its a win or loss. They will always be victims of early shots and poor shot selection. The only difference in the win/loss column is if they can knock them down or not.

Nellie/Small Ball is maddeningly frustrating. I don’t understand how Wright can only get 8 minutes when he’s the most talented PF on the roster. No knock to Azu or CJ, but i’d rather Wright get their minutes because it will be more important to the franchise moving forward.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Dec 30, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, sorry for being that guy,

 Haha, I’ve been trying to explain this to them all season but for some reason they are fixated on fictional soldiers and boxers. Give toronto their average shooting night and we’d been done in the last 5 minutes.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 30, 2008 3:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You forget we were on a back-2-back

And without 2 starters.

We simply shot better than them, and that is something nice to see for us fans. Was it a great game – not in the 4th, where we broke down a bit and took some bad shots. But nellie made some minor changes and that worked.

by mosdl on Dec 30, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True

Give toronto their average shooting night and we’d been done in the last 5 minutes

I thought Toronto was horrendous last night. If they shoot average, the W’s never get up by 15. And there’s no doubt who would have won the game.

by UncleCliffy on Dec 30, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yup your right!!! and give us Monta and Mags and we win by 20. So I guess we should just leave it as a

well deserved W.

" The world is full of idiots and I am the WORLD!" Sleepy Freud 12.08

by smearthebeard on Dec 30, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I guess we should just leave it as a well deserved W.

   Yep, No way to get it out of the win column now. This tanking thing is going horribly wrong, crappy pick here we come. We need a team strategist. :>)

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Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 30, 2008 7:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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