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Monta Ellis - "M"anaging "E"xpectations

Unfortunately another post was deleted that I had commented on and so I thought it more suitable to create a Post to try and give some words of experience to help with expectations.

In the summer of 1994, I had just played and unfortunately lost in the quarter finals of the British College Championship, to a team from Sheffield Unversity that consisted of 3 of the Sheffield Sharks's National Championship team, so I didnt feel so bad.

A couple of days later at practice I took a rebound, made a fast break right, but just as I went at full speed, I clipped the guy's ankle who had turned the opposite way that I had just rebounded. Thus at full sprint, my foot was now turned 90 degrees to the left and down, so that outside of my foot was now the first thing to hit the ground, at full sprint.

"CRACK", sure enough, my ankle collapsed with a proper crack that everyone in the gym heard and I thought there and then whilst screaming my head off, that I had broken my ankle. I was rushed to hospital in Leeds and the doctors found by sheer chance that the bone had not broken, but that I had torn the right achilles, but again fortunately not all the way across.

The end result was a boot cast for 2 months, brace and crutches for another 2 months, walking excercise for 2 months thereafter and after 6 months I returned to the Basketball gym, not to shoot hoops, but to run and run, and run, and run. Up and down the hall, simply building strength back into the ankle, all the while, wearing an ankle support.

8 months after the injury I started shooting hoops and making jump shots again, all the while wearing an ankle brace which takes some getting used to, but also "SLOWS" you down.

The following season I could still feel the ankle was not 100% and I continued to wear the ankle support everytime I played for that following year, but to this day, my ankle now clicks if I rotate it.

So enough of the background and to the point of the post.

Monta's injury is pretty similar in terms of severity, however he has time, some of the best resources and specialists all working to get him fit again. But time and time again I read comments here of "well when he comes back in December we will have another great weapon again", etc etc.

To those people, I urge you not to be disappointed if it takes a little longer. I was pretty much the same age as Monta when I did my ankle and it is trully incredible how well the body heals and he is galaxies ahead of me in terms of being an athlete than I was, so he will heal fast, but give the guy chance to bed himself in slowly.

He will no doubt have to use an ankle brace to start off with and he simply wont have the confidence for the first month or so, to truly go at it, the way he used to, without a little voice in his head saying "watch the ankle". You dont mean to, it just happens and just that thought, takes a second off your initial run.

Therefore I encourage you to have sensible expectations of Monta when he comes back, as it is going to take a LOT of gym time and practice, before he is ready to hit the court in an NBA environment. Remember he has to be 100% certain that if big Ronny T, of a KG lands on his ankle, it is strong enough not to instantly pop, and put him back further than he is now.

Now I am not the doctor involved in his case, but having been through a similar process, I just wanted some people to know that may not have faced an injury like this, how difficult it is, what bloody hard work it is to recover and "managing expectations" is the key here.

If he can come back and for the first couple of months, simply draw another defensive player to him, due to the threat, then he opens the court slightly for the other guys. Hopefully, then, if possible and due to increased ball movement and better defense, we reach the playoffs, THEN, he might just be fully fit to give us a sign of the pre-Moped Ellis.

But a fully fit, same as old Monta Ellis on December 26th against Boston, I dont think there is a hope in hell! Certianly not for a game of that status and the tempo that it is likely to be played.

My prediction for his return would be at home either on Jan 11th - Indiana, or Jan 14 - Sacramento. Just my guess. We'll see how the boy wander does.

I still dont like the way he handled himself follwoing the event or the bahaviour of his agent since, but I do wish him the fastest recovery possible and the safest return to action possible as he certainly provides firepower and threat that other teams find hard to match.

 

 

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damn… Monta.. why? He’s still young tho.. and we (might) have him for the next 6 years..

Kinda off topic but did you guys read the article with Baron Davis and Elton Brand riding scooters with Ellis during the injury? I’m not sure if it was posted here or not.. well yeah I blame Baron. Boo you Baron.

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by KMC on Dec 3, 2008 1:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Would be interested to see that article...

Also, my proof reading went out of the window at the end, apologies for the typo’s!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 3, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That article about Baron and Elton

was pure satire as in made up, for fun.

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by Doctor Kajita on Dec 3, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

I’ve been through ankle surgery and many, many ankle injuries before so I know the deal. I had bone spurs, chips, and damaged cartilage removed. It took me 6 months to get back on the court, but that wasn’t enough time. I am not a college athlete or anything like that…just a gym rat. So I couldn’t wait to get back on the court and play. Big mistake. I came back too early before doing all the proper rehab and it delayed my recovery to one year. Even then, I wasn’t 100. That was 3 years ago. I would say just recently, within the past 6 months or so, my ankle that had surgery is 100. This is due to me having a life outside of basketball and not committing to rehabbing it fully.

I think Monta is in good hands, but the OP has the right idea. I would be very surprised if Monta is able to get the same explosiveness back THIS SEASON.

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by Doctor Kajita on Dec 3, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Eight Freaking Months!!!!!

Would u say that maybe it took u so long cuz u were being extra careful, and not getting paid 11 million a year? what if u did walking exercises for 2 weeks, run and run and run for 2 weeks, than started playing ball again? perhaps the result could have been the same?

i hyperextended my knee last year and the doctor told me to stay of it for 6 weeks. After 6 weeks i still felt some pain so i went to a specialist. u know what he told me? get out there and play ball. u wont know if it is seriously injured until u play. and guess what? i started playing ball again and everything is ok. i know the injuries are severely different but ur post is depressing me. 8 FREAKIN MONTHS?? MONTA NOT THE SAME?? JAX AND MAGGETTE 4 ANOTHER 5YRS!!!!!!! ( sorta threw that one in to make it more dramatic)

of the subject….anyone know of a BIG that we can draft next year when we get a top 3 pick cuz ellis won’t be the same? anyone like oden or so? anyone close????

by nuttinbutnet on Dec 3, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yep....unfortunately mate....thats Tendons for ya!

Ellis has not dont that and yes he has every conceivable assistance he needs to get fit, I did not. But unfortunately it took 8 months because you cannot really “stich” a tendon back together, it has to “fuse” by itself.

I am just so thankful it didnt snap altogether as that would have meant I would have had a limp foot for the rest of my life with no ability to raise the toes.

Fortune smiles sometimes! :)

Ellis WILL be back faster than 8 months, but as the point of the thread is all about expectations, it’s just to make sure people dont expect too much too soon.

Also to Kajita…it’s a pain in the butt isnt it, when all you want to do is go shoot a few hoops, but as you know, these things just cannot be rushed. Good (in a bizarre commaradery type of way) to see others here who have had ankle injuries! Bone chips hurt like hell too!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 3, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ankle injuries

A lot of my bball buddies don’t understand my injuries since they’ve never sustained them before. These are the same guys who play soft (LOL).

One thing injuries has taught me was to slow my play down and rely on fundamentals and teamwork. I still do stupid things but not as much as before. Knock on wood, but I’ve learned to not put myself in situations where I will get hurt, like defense and rebounding…HAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Doctor Kajita on Dec 3, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

marked!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 3, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good post,

as much as I cant wait for #8 to come back, people(me included) need to temper thier expectations for the kid.

I’ll say it, this season is lost, we are not making the playoffs, hopefully Monta comes back when he is completly 100% healthy, takes it easy and tries to learn how to play the point on the fly. Hopefully that combined with next summer will have Monta atleast be able to do a decent job of playing the point next season.

Ellis to the rim.

by warriorsscore110 on Dec 3, 2008 2:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

All we need from him

Is some reliable offense when we are in a drought, which is what usually kills us.

I’d take 6-10 pts a game at first with him coming off the bench (yeah right).

What would be nice if he rebounded like cj does – hustle rebounding rather than stand and hope it comes towards you.

by mosdl on Dec 3, 2008 3:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Great post but it sounds like your injury was far more damaging than Monta's

Monta’s timeline is out of walking boot, on a treadmill and precor machine and running in 8 weeks. He has regained full motion of the ankle and is beginning sport specific drills for basketball. Under your injury you did not do this for 8 months. Monta is already there in 2. I remain cautiously optomisitc!

by smearthebeard on Dec 3, 2008 5:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I remain cautiously optomisitc!

  but you don’t have to play on that bad wheel, how would you feel if it was your’s?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 3, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Finally a realistic post about all those unrealistic expectations

Coming back this season Monta will be a diminished player trying to adjust to a new position (better to keep Jamal at the point this season) with a roster that has significantly changed. This is not a great scenario for all the false hope we’re hearing. I’d really like to see Monta sit out the season, but I know that won’t happen. Since Nellie has already written off the season, I say don’t bring him back so soon.

by Jeffo on Dec 3, 2008 9:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Since Nellie has already written off the season, I say don’t bring him back so soon.

  Yeah, He ashould play about 10-20 minutes max for a while till he gets a feel for his injured foot. Then next year be ready to go from the gun.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 3, 2008 10:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good post

btw my entire family is from northern england and i lived for a year in york. just though id say that.

i really hope monta comes back soon cuz we desparately need him. from what ive heard tho he is a fast healer and he has been ahead of schedule so far. we’ll see what happens

by montamazing on Dec 3, 2008 10:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So is mine...

My father is from Portadown and still have family living there in Lisburn and Dromore! I am English and went to Uni in Leeds but ventured to York on many an occasion.

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 4, 2008 3:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Feck its wayyyy to late, I read that as Northern Ireland....lol

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 4, 2008 3:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just remember

Monta > You

lol

Put a little mustard on it

by The Barnes Supremacy on Dec 4, 2008 11:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

and your point is?

Your post > relevance!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Dec 4, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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