Season Analysis so far
by faetati on Dec 6, 2008 9:29 PM PST
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PrintHello everyone! Didn´t want to be repetitive or anything like that, but watching the Warriors play these last games just makes you think what we are missing this season.
It´s obvious, I think to everyone, that smallball isn´t working like the last two season. Along with that we are not rebounding the ball, we are not defending, we are letting any team in the league score at will against us, and those are just like the big problems. Along with that we still have numerous smaller, but not less important mistakes.
First of all, lets try to analyse the players´ stats this season:
Stephen Jackson: PER: 15.29 / PPG: 20.9 / APG: 6.6 / RPG: 4.2 / SPG: 1.3 / TOPG: 4.2 / FG%: 40.5 / 3PT%: 29.6
I love Stephen Jackson, I think he´s the heart and soul of the team, he´s the leader and a player Don Nelson trusts a lot. But I have to admit that he´s a true ballhog this season. Althought he leads the team with 6.6 APG and that in 2 or 3 games he passed the ball and made everyone around him better, I think he´s just trying to do too much. Maybe he just hates losing and he´s trying to win the game by himself. In consequence of that, he´s shooting the ball horribly this season and his ballhog is becoming contagious.
Jamal Crawford: PER: 16.52 / PPG: 20.8 / APG: 5.8 / RPG: 4.2 / SPG: 1.2 / TOPG: 2.3 / FG%: 39.4 / 3PT%: 31.7
JC is who we got for Al Harrington, a player that wasn´t happy here and wanted to go away but that was a good Yao Ming stopper, a big who could hit a three and a Don Nelson "type of player". Crawford was shooting 45.5 % from three point range as a Knick and now he´s just shooting 31.7 %, so what´s happening to him? Does Nelson give him too much freedom out there, so he´s just hoisting up ill advised shots? Maybe... but along with Jackson and Maggette he´s also trying to do too much and is taking a lot of bad shots and simply isn´t sharing the ball enough. But at least we got a 20 point scorer for a guy who wasn´t playing and was filling up a roster spot, so that´s a plus. His defense is also pretty shaky.
Corey Maggette: PER: 16.62 / PPG: 19.9 / APG: 1.9 / RPG: 5.6 / SPG: 1.0 / TOPG: 2.3 / FG%: 42.8 / 3PT%: 18.4
I simply close my eyes when Maggette shoots a three... 18.4% are you kidding me? I really think that I would have a better percentage if I was playing. This is simply unacceptable for a professional player. Don Nelson is mostly using him as a PF and it´s just not working. He CAN´T guard a David West or a Tim Duncan. Most of the time he simply doesn´t play any defense... the best thing he does on this end of the floor is try to draw charges and flop. He´s the guy we got to "try" to fill the hole Baron Davis left when he signed with the Clippers, but he´s not the leader Baron was. I know he´s averaging 20 PPG and that he leads the league in free thow attempts he´s not the type of player we need right now.
Andris Biedrins: PER: 21.37 / PPG: 15.5 / APG: 2.1 / RPG: 12.1 / SPG: 1.2 / TOPG: 2.2 / FG%: 55.2 / FT%: 59.4
Biedrins started the season like he wanted to be the league MVP! He was averaging almost 15 RPG, had a double double in like almost every game but since this hot streak, he´s just another player. He´s soft on defense against big guys... I don´t know... I just don´t like what he´s been doing in these last few games.
Kelenna Azubuike: PER: 13.30 / PPG: 13.5 / APG: 1.5 / RPG: 4.0 / SPG: 0.9 / TOPG: 1.2 / FG%: 44.7 / 3PT%: 31.8
For me, Azubuike is lacking consistency. He´s just horrible shooting the three and he´s not defending like last season and not rebounding like last season. I think this no rebound and no defense is in fact becoming contagious...
DeMarcus Nelson: PER: 10.26 / PPG: 5.4 / APG: 1.3 / RPG: 1.7 / SPG: 0.9 / TOPG: 1.3 / FG%: 51.2 / FT%: 12.5/ 3PT%: 0.0
Simply not ready for the NBA. Made a lot of rookie mistakes when he was with us. The Warriors did a good thing to send him to the D League. How can an opening night starting PG average 12.5% on free throws and 0.0% from three? Geez, I miss Baron Davis.
Ronny Turiaf: PER: 10.56 / PPG: 3.0 / APG: 0.7 / RPG: 2.7 / BPG: 2.2 / TOPG: 0.5/ FG%: 41.5 / FT%: 68.4
I hated Turiaf when he was with the Lakers, but now that he´s with us, I think he´s exactly what we missed last season. Maybe if he was here, we would´ve made the playoffs, Baron would still be here and we would all be happy by now. So I blame him for what´s happening this season! LOL... just kidding. His interior defense and shot blocking ability is very good. I don´t think Nellie is playing him the right way. He should be playing more than 15.7 minutes per game, and MAYBE should be starting at PF instead of Maggette. So, I like what he brings to the team, I just don´t think he´s been used correctly. The only problem for me... is that he doesn´t rebound the ball enough to get more minutes, so he should work more on that.
Marcus Williams: PER: - 0.72 / PPG: 0.5 / APG: 1.8 / RPG: 0.0 / SPG: 0.3 / TOPG: 0.3/ FG%: 12.5 / FT%: 0.0 / 3PT%: 0.0
Man, how can someone have a MINUS 0.72 PER? Is he that bad? He was brought here to be the backup PG for Monta Ellis, and when Ellis got injuried everyone thought that he would start, but so far, he has just played in 4 games and he could´t even play tonight with a 40 point blowout, so YES he might be THAT bad...
Rob Kurz: PER: 7.38 / PPG: 3.3 / APG: 0.3 / RPG: 0.8 / BPG: 0.5 / TOPG: 0.5/ FG%: 30.0 / FT%: 87.5 / 3PT%: 0.0
I won´t waste my time writting about a guy that will be waived as soon as Monta gets back.
Marco Belinelli: PER: 12.27 / PPG: 3.0 / APG: 0.5 / RPG: 0.5 / SPG: 0.3 / TOPG: 0.3/ FG%: 48.3 / 3PT%: 41.7
He said recently that he´s not satisfied with his situation and the Warriors have been trying to trade him. Can´t get any Playing time (7.2 MPG) and when he´s in, he can´t rebound and can´t play defense. Nothing more to add here.
Anthony Morrow: PER: 16.88 / PPG: 10.5 / APG: 0.8 / RPG: 3.1 / SPG: 0.5 / TOPG: 0.8 / FG%: 47.2 / FT%: 88.9 / 3PT%: 51.6
I have to admit I was on the Morrow bandwagon after the Clippers game. He came out of nowhere and had 37 points and 11 rebounds and followed it with 25 points and 4 rebounds and we won both games. He got the nation´s attention after the Clippers game and teams started to pay more attention to him. Nelson benched him again and now he can´t get any Playing time. Skeptic con Urquell said on today´s open thread something really funny about Morrow: " defending Morrow harder? Yeah, they’ve been stationing a defender near the bench". LOL! I still think he´s important to the team with his good 3 PT %...
Anthony Randolph: PER: 12.09 / PPG: 5.7 / APG: 0.8 / RPG: 4.5 / BPG: 1.2 / TOPG: 1.5 / FG%: 39.2 / FT%: 66.7
I like his mentality and his agressiveness, specially as a rookie. He really have star potential. Not KG type, but he could develop to become a very good player. He´s got a good rebounds per minute average and is a really good shot blocker and brings energy to the team when he´s playing but commits too many rookie mistakes. In my opinion he costed us the game against Houston when he got that technical foul after the dunk on Yao. Should get more minutes if we are to tank the season anyway. Is learning very quickly to ballhog with teammates Jackson and Maggette.
CJ Watson: PER: 15.42 / PPG: 9.2 / APG: 3.3 / RPG: 3.4 / SPG: 1.4 / TOPG: 1.2 / FG%: 47.2 / FT%: 75.0 / 3PT%: 30.8
CJ is probably one of the worst defenders in the NBA. Really. He´s very good at stealing passes in the lane, but on 1 on 1 defense he just sucks! He´s a terrible inbounder and commits a lot of silly mistakes, but the team has been playing soooo bad that he became an important piece of the rotation during the last road trip because of his consistency to knock down the mid range jumper. An average backup PG at best for the NBA level.
Brandan Wright: PER: 20.27 / PPG: 7.2 / APG: 0.2 / RPG: 3.7 / BPG: 1.3 / TOPG: 0.5 / FG%: 58.9 / FT%: 73.9
I hated him for a long time because of the Jason Richadson trade, but I really like him now. I think he should be getting more than 16.5 MPG by now. He has the team´s second best PER and is a very very good shot blocker with his long arms. Still very raw but brings a lot of energy to the team just like Anthony Randolph.
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No that we´re done with the stats, let´s talk about the team stats, what´s wrong with the team and what can we do to change this season around and stop the bleeding from this 9 game losing streak.
We are #1 in the league in Free Thows attempted per game with 31.1, but we´re just making 74.8% of them (#25 in the league). We are the 3rd worst 3 Point FG % team, just ahead of the Kings and the Clippers. We lead the league in blocks per game with 7.0 BPG. We are #21 in Defensive Rebounds per game, and that shows one of our biggest problems... We are #18 in FG % with 44.9%.
Tonight´s loss to the Spurs was really depressing. They fell down by 40 points in the third quarter. They had no energy, no motivation, no desire to get out of the losing streak and didn´t play defense just like the last 7 games (they are giving up 125.3 PPG in the last 7) and gave the Spurs a lot of easy dunks, layups and open jumpers. I really wanted them to lose this one by 50 or 60 points.
So to summarize what´s wrong with them... WE LACK... defense, desire to win, motivation, energy, rebounds, a player to close out games like Baron Davis, a motivated coach etc etc etc
Don Nelson should change his starting lineup , Mullin or Rowell needs to make a big roster move to try to shake the team, they should only train defense and defensive rebounds for weeks because they are very good at scoring points, but it´s pathetic to allow 112 PPG.
My ideal Rotation for now is:
PG: Jamal Crawford / CJ Watson / Marco Belinelli
SG: Stephen Jackson / Kelenna Azubuike / Anthony Morrow
SF: Corey Maggette / Anthony Randolph
PF: Ronny Turiaf / Brandan Wright
C: Andris Biedrins / Ronny Turiaf / Rob Kurz
And when Monta gets back:
PG: Monta Ellis / CJ Watson / Marco Belinelli
SG: Jamal Crawford / Kelenna Azubuike / Anthony Morrow
SF: Stephen Jackson / Corey Maggette / Anthony Randolph
PF: Ronny Turiaf / Brandan Wright / Anthony Randolph
C: Andris Biedrins / Ronny Turiaf
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What do you guys think we should do to get back to winning some games? I know this season is almost lost and that we are probably headed to the Lottery again but c´mon, we have good players (4 20 PPG players) and should get at least 35 - 40 games this season. Speak out!
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Defense and Rebounding
I had a tough time deciding between rebounding and defense. The more I thought about it, the more I leaned toward defense. Rebounding is a part of defense, but teams are just getting too many easy baskets. I know that if we grab a board against the Heat we would’ve won that game, but teams are just getting too many easy buckets.
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2008 9:33 PM PST reply actions
yeah, plus a lot of our inside rebounding problems stem from poor initial defense w/ our bigs rotating and losing position to cover for our shoddy perimeter d.
by the evil monkey on Dec 6, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Defense and rebounding are almost inextricably linked. Unless you’re focusing your defense exclusively on steals, defense has to involve rebounding as that’s the way you get the ball back at the end of a possession. About 70% of rebounds come on the defensive end. You need a missed shot to get a rebound. Getting the other team to miss shots, but letting them get the board afterwards fails at the task of defense: getting the ball back without letting the opposition score.
by jae on Dec 7, 2008 8:17 AM PST up reply actions
anyone else see Crawford throw his arms in the air and say something to the bench after Maggette missed, the ball bounced back to Maggette, he looked at and ignored Crawford in the corner, and promptly bricked another shot?
if we don’t trade Maggette, maybe Crawford opts out at the end of the season to join his buddy Roy in Portland thus losing one bad defender and freeing up future cap space.
whoops, my point was to add chemistry to your poll list. though i’d still vote for defense.
by the evil monkey on Dec 6, 2008 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Chemistry
Except for Maggette being a black hole, I think the oncourt chemistry is there, undeveloped and undisciplined. This is especially true after Jackson turned over a new leaf over the past few games.
Instead, I agree with Rated-R Superstar on defense, because we’re not putting that much effort into harassing the other team and breaking their rhythm.
well if we go by +/- on court vs off court (before tonight),
Watson +8.5,
Morrow +11.4,
Randolph +7.7,
Turiaf, +10.2… and
Kurz!? at +16.0
i shudder to think how great Kurz’s +/- stats will be after tonight where we were even while he was in the game for 18 minutes and -35 in the 30 minutes he wasn’t in. Kurz for MVP!
hopefully, W’s management doesn’t see this as they are liable to give Kurz a $60 million contract.
by the evil monkey on Dec 6, 2008 10:16 PM PST reply actions
Hey evil monkey...
where did you find the +/- stats? I was looking for them to add to my stats but couldn´t find it.
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http://www.82games.com/0809/0809GSW.HTM
btw, Crawford told the bench, "Are you serious?" according to Marcus Thompson.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12/06/post-game-tid-bits-at-spurs/
by the evil monkey on Dec 6, 2008 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
"Are you serious?"
Some of us were thinking the exact same thing when that happened. Now, will Nellie bench Maggette until he plays team ball???
by IQofaWarrior on Dec 6, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
I could be VEEEEEEERY wrong
but I still think that Maggette would do much better coming off the bench as a 6th man. Opening up a starting spot to Turiaf, Wright or Randolph
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If Davis had stayed
we would be a much better team with Turiaf and Pietrus(if we won him over) on board. Pietrus could not score like the rest, but his defensive grit is what made him so valuable.
we need change
weather its a
new coach or
a new player we need a leader and a player who is clutch and can play team basketball
unlike jackson and maggs who think they are the greates players ever but in reality are not even close to the top 100
trade Jackson!!!!!!
The sad thing is that management has made it real, real unlikely that any of this is going to happen soon. Nellie just got an extension. Odds don’t favor him being dumped right after that, even if long term it’s the smarter move. They just extended Jax too, so he becomes less tradeable as well. Crawford can get you a Harrington type play. Meh. For his faults, nothing we have can secure a big guy better than Andris.
The team is locked in, with all of the major parts here for at least the next three season.
Maybe Monta turns it around. Maybe.
by jae on Dec 7, 2008 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this is the most mind boggling point.
i could understand, though not agree, with gaining the cap flexibility by losing guys like JRich, BD, & Pietrus. though i still don’t get why Barnes didn’t even get an offer. he had a down year, but for the vet’s minimum, he’s a bargain – especially compared to Azubuike. going young? didn’t appear that way in the before moped or even during the season’s start… but i digress. back to the point.
but to throw it all away on guys like Maggette, Crawford & Jackson when you’re also throwing money at Monta & Andris is insanity. spending just b/c you can and you may never get a better chance to is never a fiscally appropriate thing to do in the NBA. it just leads you to sign middling players that get you in the 30-39 win range, keeping you in the back range of the lottery and stuck in NBA no man’s land.
the W’s problem is they are never truly rebuilding, only retooling. once Maggette was signed, i knew they were once again repeating this mistake. little did i know that mopedgate would occur, Maggette would be so bad and that Harrington for Crawford would make it possible for us to entertain some form of rebuilding. we really stink, now it’s whether management has the wherewithal to move these bad contracts and whether there is anyone who is desperate enough to win now to take on some bad contracts to get over their perceived humps.
by the evil monkey on Dec 7, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
I also didn´t get why
Barnes didn´t get an offer. Geez he signed for less than 1 Million for 1 season with Phoenix… He was a huge part of our offense with his long inbound passes and hustle and 3 pointers. I liked him a lot and I wish him all the best.
As for the bad contracts… I agree we have to try to win now (what I prefer…) or make an Extreme Makeover Rebuilding Edition. Not this retooling stuff. I love Jackson, I know he is becoming a ballhog and he hurt the team with his ill advised shots and costly turnovers in some games this season, but without him, I really don´t know what would happen to this team as it is right now. I hope he doesn´t miss a lot of time with his injuried wrist because if he does, we are doomed for now.
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spending just b/c you can and you may never get a better chance to
actually, that’s a key opportunity to take advantage of – and Maggs wouldn’t have been such a bad signing had (1) Jackson not gotten extended (2) Crawford’s contract replaced Harrington’s … both of those decisions were totally within the dubs control - neither had to or should have happened … hindsight is obviously 20-20 vision and now we look at Maggs contract as an albatross but at the time it made sense to add the scoring SF to Monta and Jackson and he does fit Nelson’s system of mismatches. We can not be sure that it isn’t Nelson who’s telling him to try to score every time he touches the ball because we are not getting easy baskets in transition, hard to know who to blame.
as for Jackson’s wrist injury perhaps it would be best if they do NOT rush him back … would the dubs actually t-t-t tank?
yeah, it's easy to take advantage of
but still not a good move. for example, what’s the point in going from 30-35 wins to 33-38 wins? and just b/c you think you might not get a better chance, doesn’t mean that a better chance won’t come along.
hindsight? i hated the move (you can look through my previous posts if you like) if only b/c it is one of those moves that affects nothing in the grand scheme of things – if anything it’s a band aid in place of the stitches that are required. if you’re not going to spend the money to be an entertaining, 5-8 playoff team with JRich and Baron, why would you spend that same money to be a 9-11 team w/ Maggette in NBA’s no man land? it makes no sense to retool this way unless you take into account the importance of selling tickets this season.
i’d rather of done what the Grizzlies did. throw money at Josh (with the additional factor that we could of frontloaded the deal to put the Hawks over the luxury tax) and see what happens. 90% chance, Hawks still match – worst case, it results in a rebuilding season (which is always better than a retooling season imo). if we just wanted to win now and enjoy things season by season, it’s lunacy to trade JRich and not extend Baron.
i’d of been fine with Baron & JRich for 5-6 years of consistent winning OR with rebuilding… but this halfway BS that the W’s have pulled since Cohan took over is what keeps this franchise out of the playoffs for 13 years.
by the evil monkey on Dec 9, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
its starting to feel like the DunMurphy era all over again
all this money locked up in players that arent producing
be the change you wish to see in the world.
I can't stand to watch the warriors on the defensive end
Any opponent can get any shot they want against us. We can’t guard a pick and roll and can’t keep anybody in front of us and out of the paint. We are such a joke of a team right now. It’s ridiculous. This is not the environment we want to develop young players in.
At least the Sharks are fun to watch…
yeah, we lost 4 guys who were really instrumental in our pick & roll defense: baron, pietrus, harrington and barnes while gaining guys that aren’t as good or are horrible at it. outside of ronny, who still falls in the not as good category being that he’s a big, the rest of the guys who now get those minutes, cj, morrow, maggette, crawford, ar, bw are pretty bad in pick and roll. cj, morrow, & crawford fall in the outright horrible category.
it’s a dilemma, we can’t switch, our little guys can’t seem to fight over or slip under, and we don’t rotate well enough defensively to compensate.
by the evil monkey on Dec 7, 2008 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
gotta disagree roughly 100% on your randolph section
he didn’t lose the rockets game, and he’s not really ballhogging. he takes open midrange jumpers, he is just inconsistent. at least it’s not terrible, contested shots (jackson?)
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Alright!
No problem… That was just my opinion. The problem is… I think Yao wouldn´t have scored 20 points in the 4th if Randolph hadn´t done what he did.
I know Jackson takes the most contested shots ever, but I also think that Randolph doesnt like to pass, when he gets the ball, generaly he´ll try to shoot it.
But thanks for the opinion anyway! =)
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Bill Russel couldn't stop Yao!
If the refs blow the whistle every time he touched the ball! But he was competing all game long unlike some of vets we have on our team. Now that we have quit on Nellie and Jack is hurt, it is gonna be very scary to watch this team play. Hello Blake Griffen.
Scary no...
it´s gonna be like watching your son´s middle school team playing against bigger, stronger, better teams 3 or 4 times a week… and that sucks…
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You are right
Randolph doesn’t like to pass…but he will learn when someone tells him he has to do it.
Spree for three!!
this is historically inaccurate, most players who like to pass, pass. most players who don’t, don’t. coaches can only do so much with these guys without stepping on their humongous egos.
by the evil monkey on Dec 9, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
for sure
agree to disagree man, i thought this was a good post
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
dude
what’s up with the hate for CJ watson?
In my opinion, he is the most underrated player on the team. I doubted him hella hard before the season and he has done so well. His ball-handling, passing and pg management skills are good and his J is money. I think he is a pretty good defender. I don’t understand the hate for him man he is a very nice player and going to be a very good backup point for us in the future.
Oh sorry
You got me wrong. I like CJ Watson, I just don´t think he´s a good defender. I said there that he´s great at stealing passes in the lane and thats very true. I like him as a backup PG and I know that his jumper is becoming very consistant. I have no problem with him, I just dont think he´s a good starting PG in the NBA or an avid defender.
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WOW
just judging by the poll… it seems that Warriors fan are not satisfied with this team at all… I only added the option “ALL OF THE ABOVE” hours after the poll started and its winning! Do we look like a real team?? Geez!
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Interesting Stats........
http://www.nba.com/warriors/stats/
While a lot are really against Magette right now, he is actually our 2nd best rebounder after Andris………. I would hate to see how bad our defense would be without his numbers there?
Magette is simply not being controlled tight enough by Nellie, simple as that. Nellie needs o say to him, “Drive the lane and hustle harder on D and forget the 3 pointers”. If he doesnt, I agree that he seems to be going into Ball Hog mode.
But then I just dont think Nellie’s coaching style is to rip the crap out of players if they are doing basics wrong? maybe it’s about time he did, s this squad truly needs a kick in the ass right now aside from a few players who are clearly giving everything they have, namely Buike and Turiaf.
It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!
good post
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
per minute he’s 6th and barely ahead of guys like KAz, Morrow, CJ, and even DeMarcus despite the fact they spend most of their time at the 1 & 2 positions.
considering Maggette gets the free rebound on FT misses (the W’s have the bigs box out and let the free 3rd man come in for the easy rebound – Jack gets a lot of these too).
coaches can only control a player so much. especially when they are making millions of dollars and pretty much can’t be fired. these guys are surrounded by yes men feeding their egos and despite their outward personalities, in their own minds, they can literally do no wrong (this is why they think they are fouled on every play and on the other end think they’ve never committed a foul).
anyway, usually what ends up happening is what we saw with Harrington.
by the evil monkey on Dec 9, 2008 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
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