Warriors conspiracy theory: The revenge of Nellie
[OK, for starters, I just want to say that I don't actually believe this, even though as far as I know, I made it up myself based on all available evidence as a means of explaining the disarray and hopelessness of the present situation. But at this point, it seems as plausible as anything else.]
The team isn't losing by chance. Don Nelson is doing this on purpose. He's sabotaging the team, playing vets who aren't winning at the expense of the morale of the team. He's being haphazard with the young guys to ruin their development and confidence. He's making sure that rotations never gel, that players get frustrated and quit. He is, driving this team back into the gutter.
Why? To get back at Cohan for the way Nelson felt he was treated after the first go around and steal some of his money in the process.
It hasn't been easy.
He saw the opening when Mullin convinced him to come back and convinced Cohan to patch things up. Nellie then had to win enough to get an extension, one that would pay him well long beyond the time he ever intended to stay here. He had to make it look like things were heading in the right direction. The Dunleavy/Murphy swap, the resurection of Jax, the building of Barnes. Then, by means of getting on Rowell's good side, he planted the seeds of sabotage in contracts ("Hey, Bobby, don't keep Davis, he's a bum. Turn that money around and give it to Jax, who is certain to be the leader well into his mid 30s"; "Sure, I know that Crawford's deal is longer than Harrington's, but I really think this is going to turn us around").
Meanwhile, on the court, Nellie institutes a rotation designed to destroy morale and prevent any player development. Cohan will have enough and can Nellie, who will sue to collect the extension money while Cohan's team spirals down the drain, left a mess for years to come.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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did someone hack into jae's account
this is totally not a jae post
this is totally not a jae post
Yep, no stats.
Till I get free
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 6, 2008 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2008 3:34 AM PST up reply actions
i don't think it's sabotage
I think it’s more like he’s a bit disillusioned. Nelson has never really put his faith in rookies, ever. He genuinely believes that playing his veterans gives him the best chance to win. And that’s always been his M.O., to win games. Even if it burns out his players come playoff time, even if it deters the long-term development of the younger players. That’s what has made him one of the most winningest coaches in NBA history, but not one of the best nor successful (in terms of playoffs and championships).
He’s finally gotten his dream come true this year, too. He has assembled a roster full of skilled guards that can run and gun and that can put up big scoring numbers and score 1-on-1. Furthermore, he has the type of big men which he’s been looking for, lengthy agile ball-handlers with guard skillsets. Unfortunately, it hasn’t been working. Defense really does win championships after all.
welcome to another 13 year playoff drought
i don’t even know who to blame anymore. Nellie, Rowell, Cohan, Mully, Thunder, Players? I have finally come full circle: anger, denial, frustration/disappointment, and now ACCEPTANCE. I accept another 13 years of NBA-bottom-feeding mediocrity. That’s who the warriors are and will always be. 2006-2007 was an aberration, a fluke, an anomaly and now we have reverted back to the truth. The warriors suck, but if you are a warrior fan than that is your destiny: Love and support for the worst managed, poorly coached, and short-sighted team in the league. But one thing we all do have to look forward to is 2019-2020, when ‘We Believe’ returns and lightning strikes again!
that would be funny
if our reality were any less painful.
I’ve been kind of hoping he’s helping Maggette het his numbers up so we can unload him ASAP. I’m OK with the rest of the team.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Crawford is not the Second Coming of Baron Davis
and the truth is that we need to steal a star player right now. Monte is a huge question mark and the real problem is that we need a PF that can really defend and score on the interior. I like Turiaf but is not a PF and Wright/Randolph do not have the physical abilities to play PF consistently. I wish Hendrix would have worked out because he is the only perform that would seem to fit the PF position.
Well jae, I've been thinking this for awhile now....
But maybe out of my own love for the warriors I’ve become willfully ignorant. The biggest proof of your Nellie theory last night was the starting lineup. For us to have a chance we would have to stay close from the get go. However, we started CJ at the point and Maggs at the pf. I know Jamal doesn’t have the defense to hang with Parker, but CJ might be the worst defender on the squad. We should have started Ronny or my favorite, BWright. The Spurs first 10 baskets, not points, baskets, came from inside the paint or within a few feet. That includes a few second chance points. Not only do you leave Andris out to dry, you have no interior defense or rebounding.
Which brings me to my next problem
When we play small ball we have Andris or Turiaf being the anchor of our D. This means that they are standing out at the top of the key or the free throw line. Which means there is no one taller than 6’6" standing under the hoop to play interior D and rebound. That is a Horrible Defensive scheme. Especially against San Antonio, a team that has great inside out play and they have killer pick and rolls. Plus they are a great rebounding team.
There was no real logic in starting CJ, we lost the game in the first 4 minutes. We gave up 120+ points to the goddamn Spurs. We are giving up 28.5 more points on average than the opposing teams average since we aquired Crawford. No defense means nothing. I got that stat from T.K’s talking points where he also pointed out that we are almost giving up 112 points per game and that the only team to do that in league history was the ’92-93 mavs, they only won 11 games, give us the 5 wins we had before we go Jamal, 16 wins?
Go Dubs, Avenge Thunder!!!!!
No
not a chance this is the work of the analytical GSoM member who we’ve all grown to know so well for well-reasoned and statistical support
not a chance such unmitigated psycho-babble conjecture came from jae
the real jae would have pointed out that Nelson could just as easily walked away from the dubs and left them rudderless as scheming to set up such a scenario so far out in advance
the real jae would have at least accounted for Nelson’s effort to achieve parity with one of the all time coaching greats Lenny Wilkens, and would have given his right nut to hang on to Baron to reach that status – and reminded all that his boy Mullin had worked to make an extension to Baron that would have been in the dubs best interests …
the real jae would have pointed out that the roster does not have enough depth to play “big” for long stretches (rebounding being his favorite rationale for going big)
whether or not jae would have mentioned all these, certainly he’d have pointed out that nothing goes so intricately according to plan and that most all the moves the dubs have made from the moment Baron spurned Mullin’s offer have been reactions to changing scenarios of Monta’s injury, Harrington’s debacle, and now Jackson’s injured wrist will cause yet another reaction …
no, whether we like it or not – and most likely not – not even Nelson could have orchestrated such a scenario as we find our beloved dubs in ….
so, say it aint so joe, er jae …
not even Nelson could have orchestrated such a senario...
Umm… that was the whole point of the post… the post title had the words “conspiracy theory” in it… and the beginning of the post also states the poster wasn’t serious. I’m not exactly proud to do this cause it kinda ruins briliance when jest is spelled out. Most likely you’re just playing along and I’m just slow to figure it out. You see, the poster has more than effectively established that he views the world (more importantly the dubs) from a strictly logical-rational perspective, but after all the antics that have insued lately (that seem to defy any attempt toward success), his faith in rationality has crumbled to the point where he is jokingly grasping toward conspiracy theories in an attempt at finding some semblance of an understanding as to what has and is going down. Now… a lot of truth is said in jest, and i’m not going to claim miss cleo powers, and my login name reflects my bias, but from reading between the lines, I get the feeling that the poster (like myself) believes Nelson could be doing a much better job, though from the post, it’s less clear as to why. Now, obviously it’s not some conspiracy, and I’d ask the poster why this is, but it seems like the poster isn’t much for speculation and anecdote, but that’s what I’m all about! To me, it’s clear that he’s being a passive-agressive little baby right now. To me, it’s clear that he’s frustrated at fact that in order to win, he gunna have to:
1. work on and coach defensive and rebounding fundamentals every single day of practice (which I think he doesn’t enjoy nor does he feel he deserves at this point in his career)
2. Play more than one big at a time (which I think he doesn’t enjoy nor does he feel he deserves at this point in his career)
And, after putting his heart and soul into parts 1 & 2, still not be good enough to advance very far even if we do make the playoffs in the next couple years.
Most likely you’re just playing along
ya, as in the “real” jae was losing his mind … but I’m not as good at it as others … we’re all scrambling to find silver linings and entertainment in this morass

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