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How do I defend against a real 4?

That wasn't pretty.  That wasn't pretty at all. 

9 straight losses?  A newly shaven Tim Duncan with 20 points in 21 minutes?  Giving up over a 120 points to the Spurs?  THE SPURS?!?!

It can't get worse than this, can it?

Jump....


 

Star-divide

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How come he didn't get any PT?

The Spurs

Man, oh man.  Talk about fundamental basketball.  Sure, one can easily make the claim that these guys are boring to watch and they have no flash.  But, who cares?  These guys play real ball - amazing ball movement, unselfish play, and only smart shots. 

Ever wonder why they've been legitimate contenders in the NBA for the last oh, I don't know, 10 years?  Great coaching.  Excellent defense.  Teamwork.  Discipline.  Look, I know that defense isn't a part of Nellie-ball, and I'm not even making the claim that we run Nellie outta Oaktown, but something's not working. 

I look at TD's stats - 21 minutes, 20 points, 13 boards, and 5 assists and ask, why?  Why don't we have someone that can do that?  Admittedly, the Spurs got reeeeeaaaal lucky when they drafted him, but you're telling me that over the last 13 years we couldn't have gotten lucky with something?  Oh right, that was the whole WE BELIEVE thing...but that was kinda short lived, wasn't it?

Mad props to the Spurs - they have done something right over the years.  Picked up amazing players late in drafts, developed a great team, and play great ball.  I can't hate on the 2nd most winningest franchise in the NBA.  That's right - better than the Celtics.

Capt

Why do I keep seeing this every game?

Action Jackson

Well, here's the good news (sorta).  He only played 15 mins and sat out the 2nd half due to an injury.  Here's the bad news - see pic above.  His game's never going to change and now that he's been given the power on the court, there are going to be dumb plays and too many times that he comes out thinking he's the hero.  Jack can't be our #1 option - he's just not built for it.  He's a good third or fourth, but definetly not a first.  Don't write me off as hating on Jack - he's my favorite player because of the emotion he brings to the table, But, he's just gotta know his role.  I'm glad he got to rest up because we'll need him against the Thunder on Monday.  (Did I really just say that?)

Maggs and JC

I'll group these two together seeing as though we basically got the same from both of em last night.  ICE cold from the floor, perfect from the free throw line, and basically no assists.  Great...that led to a huge victory.  Bad shooting nights happen, that's fine, but why continue to take shots if you can't get close to the hoop?  Pass the ball, right?  Well, Maggs went 1-10 from the field and 0 assists.  JC hit 2-5 with 3 assists. Since no one's about to play defense, I honestly have no suggestions on nights like yesterday where nothing seems to go in.  I guess defense is a bit too much to ask for...

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I shall call you - Dhalsim.  YOGA FLAME!

Gonna B-Wright

Fine fine, I'm with you.  He needs to play more so he can develop.  The talent is there, it's just not refined.  He had some great inside moves, a monster dunk, and hustled hard on defense.  I don't know why he doesn't get more burn, but, that's for Nellie to know.  This year's obviously about developing our young guys, and since we're stuck with him and AR, why not play em more? 

Marcoooooooo

Needs to go.  I can't see how anyone can stick up for this guy at this point.  Maybe he didn't get a fair chance last year to see the court, but he's getting time this year.  ESPECIALLY LAST NIGHT.  At the end of 15 minutes, he came out 1-6 with 2 points and 1 assist.  Great shooting for a guy who's SUPPOSED to be a shooter.  There's just no need for this guy to be on the court if he can't defend and he can't shoot.  Blame Nellie all you want for not giving his fair chance, but Nellie must have seen something that we all couldn''t see before. 

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The Kurz!

BIG ROB!

That's my boy!  I hope he starts next game!

The good news

Alright, enough of the complaints.  The only thing good about last night game's was that it wasn't like Monday's game against the Heat.  Hash was right - a blowout loss is better than a tight game.  Losses happen, the Spurs are a better team, that's fine. 

HOWEVER, we have to win tomorrow against the Thunder.  I think a lot more is riding on this next game than we all would have hoped, and if the Dubs do end up losing, some drastic changes might be happening. 

I pray to Thunder (our mascot, may his soul R.I.P.) that we don't see those changes..

By the way, big ups to Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao for defeating Oscar De La Hoya in 8 rounds last night.  That was quite a uhh...beating?  Hmm...what was worse, the Warriors loss, or Oscar's?  Sounds like a mighty fine poll to toss up!

But before I go...let me leave you with what I like to call

R DIZZLE'S WARRIOR FOTO GALLERY

Let me know if you get the joke.

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Capt

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Get it?

 

 



 

 


 

 

Poll
What was worse last night?
Warriors getting destroyed
416 votes
Oscar De La Hoya getting destroyed
211 votes

627 votes | Poll has closed

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Oscar was worse

HE was greatness and than in the end it was just sad. And im saying this as a Filipino Pacman fan. This fight was suppose to be great and all it was Oscar just walking around tap punching that getting stuck on the ropes and getting murdered.

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs


Pac-Manny Pie anybody?!

by Tony.psd on Dec 7, 2008 12:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LOL... Sara Lee!

I burned the top kinda!

by Tony.psd on Dec 7, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I burned the top kinda!

 Let your wife handle the technical stuff.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 7, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i second that

how much for an xl

by J2daZ on Dec 7, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

i just noticed that the filipino symbol on your shirt looks like pacman.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Dec 7, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL... thanks!

We did good last night and sold 7 dozen on the strip at Vegas last night!

by Tony.psd on Dec 7, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

how

much for one i want one in XL

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Dec 7, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i

didnt even watch the spurs game. i forgot about it then went to check the boxscore at the end of the 1st. decided to skip it and watch the other beatdown

by saintdee on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hope we lose tomorrow

so some big changes can happen like…

1) play maggs off the bench only, dont start him
2) either nelly wakes up and starts some better lineups, or we get a new coach..which prob isnt possible at this point cuz of the money
3) give wright/randolph a lot more play time, start them!
4) use lineups with 3 of our ‘big men’ in at once, maybe?
5) give cap’t jack some more rest each game

by DeepS on Dec 7, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

In defense of Belinelli...

…and I’m not saying that he’s got some magical potency we just can’t see, but Don Nelson has really screwed him over in a way that’s symptomatic of the worst elements of Nelson’s attitudes since coming back to Golden State. He’s currently shooting 42% from the field (not great) and 38% from three (fairly good). Those numbers may seem rather vanilla, but keep in mind that this guy has never really had a consistent rotation spot, has no idea when he’ll see any minutes, and has had Nelson talking him down for the better part of two years. I’m paraphrasing, here, but after training camp his rookie year, Nelson said something to the effect of “whatever assets he had he’s lost them.” That in addition to numerous statements about him being woefully outclassed, just weeks after proclaiming he was “a rookie in name only” because of his high level skills. That kind of schizophrenic behavior from the guy at the top has to wreck a guy’s confidence, and it clearly has with Belinelli. I don’t see stardom in his future, but there’s no reason he couldn’t be a useful role player on a good team. I hope he finds a spot.

by Zack Vank on Dec 7, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i see your point

but don’t you think he should be at a level where he doesn’t get discouraged by Nellie’s thoughts and words? Correct me if I’m wrong, but Marco’s no kid and so he shouldn’t sit and get upset because his coach has lost faith in him. If anything, he should use that as the fire to get better and to find a way to get minutes under Nelie. Obviously, Marco’s not a good fit for the Don Nelson’s Warriors – so why not try to change your game so you could get some minutes and find your way on to another team? I’m sure Nellie told Marco what he wants out of him, soo, it couldn’t be that hard, right?

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Dec 7, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At this point...

…I have no idea what it takes to get minutes out of Nelson, is the thing. It’s clearly not shot selection, otherwise somebody would’ve given Jackson a stern talking to. It’s clearly not defense, otherwise, well, Don Nelson wouldn’t be one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. Last year after O’Bryant had the best game of his career, Nelson signed Mbenga and booted Patrick down the bench. It’s happened a couple times this year that Brandan Wright has had a strong game and then barely seen the floor the next night. I’m not suggesting any particular about the man’s personality beyond the fact that his actions don’t seem to have any rhyme or reason to them lately, and furthermore I don’t see any other successful coaches treating their players this way. Every time the playoffs roll around, you’ll hear broadcasters hammer one particular point home; that a team has a strong, mentally tough bench because they’ve been put in positions to succeed, they’re confident, and they know what their role is and when to play it. Could you even call anybody on this Warriors team a “role player” when the significance, importance, and extent of the role seems to be wildly different each and every night? It’s a poisonous way to run a basketball team, in my eyes.

by Zack Vank on Dec 7, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

also

that sounds a lot like what happened to POB…look at him now. warming the bench on another team

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"whatever assets he had he’s lost them."

  Probably left them on the flight home from Hawaii?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 7, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Part of the blame

Should be the terrible scheduling. How is it that the Dubs are expectied to win the night after the whole team played their hearts out against the Rockets. 2 of the hardest teams 2 days in a row? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

The pop ups on this site are starting to piss me off.

by danielholl on Dec 7, 2008 3:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

True.

The Houston game actually had a lot of positives, and I was happy despite the loss. We were forced to play a conventional lineup and thanks to Nelson’s ejection, Wright got some time as well. They looked good on offense a lot of the stretches, with some nice passes and teamwork. But last night’s Spur’s game was just painful. For reasons I dont know of, or understand, Nelly started right off into smallball, despite the good performance last night by a conventional team. He buried the team in a 20 point deficit that they had no chance of climbing out of. Shameful.

by Sebulver on Dec 7, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Something I want to get off my chest

It looks like Nelson has managed to create a poisonous environment for much of the bench by holding them to all kinds of standards (which seem to be somewhat personal at times), while letting Maggette and the rest of the vets get away with all kinds of terrible/unmotivated/selfish plays.
I don’t care about how smart Nelson may be when given a good lineup. If you cant hold the entire team to the same, clarified standards, then you will only divide the team up, and you’ll see players looking out only for their own playing-time and stats, without giving a damn about the team itself. As much as I like a lot of the players on this team, I am really hoping that Nelson once again goes small and loses tomorrow so that maybe some necessary changes can be made, but I’m afraid they will be short-term ones that simply create more problems.

Also, for the love of God, please stop going to games and supporting this franchise until they get their act straight. There is a difference between being a loyal fan and being naive. A loyal fan sticks through tough times, knowing that the team and its owners have a plan and want more than anything else, to win. It’s foolish and naive to stick around for a team whose owners care only about the profits. Many of the people on this site call others here band-wagoners when those others threaten to leave… This makes them feel good for how loyal and “true” they are to the losing Warriors (and it’s sad because it seems like that feeling is all there is for today’s Warrior fans). Ultimately, it’s fools like these, with their blind loyalty, that have allowed this franchise to get where it’s at.

I got into professional basketball during the Warrior’s late 07 run. I previously hated the idea of watching a bunch of millionaires get paid to score points and win games. I would watch only college games, because you saw the passion in the players. You’d see players cry sometimes after a close post-season-ending loss. They played with heart. Well, when I watched some of those Warrior’s games, I saw that same attitude in the players, and it made me change my attitude about pro-sports. They were the underdogs that willed themselves into the playoffs. They had swagger, and possibly played above their individual talents, because of the common goal of surprising the league. That attitude seems to have been snuffed out through much of this year. Last night, the team (mostly the vets) seemed more than content just going through the motions, and taking enough shots to earn their pay-checks. I really hope things change fast, but things are looking pretty bleak as of now. The only thing we can do in the process is let our actions show the owners that we really aren’t the most naive fans in the league, and to start demanding a better product before we put down any more money.

by Sebulver on Dec 7, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

MAAAAAANNNN

just bench Nellie! I’m done! We have gotten all were getting out of him. Dammit we need to explore all the options we have to work with. There is nothing to fear ( missing the playoffs ) if it turns out some young fellas don’t pan out. At least we will know what we need to replace as we try to grow. Plus it’s evident now more than ever ( celtics defensive ring ) how much defense matters. We have experienced the highest of high octane offense, but that style rarely conquers some tuff nose bad ass defense. Throws other teams out of wack mentally… you know like what happens to us every time we face solid D. It probably isn’t gonna happen ( Nelson replacement ), but I’m down. I love you Nellie, but go crack that brew hit the hammock and spark that stogie once and for all… please.

by Billybibes420 on Dec 7, 2008 5:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i didn’t get the joke…

by jimmycaps on Dec 7, 2008 7:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the warriors

are obviously the joke

by Number22Drew on Dec 7, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you got it!

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Dec 7, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It can't get worse than this, can it?

  Well at least our fan site isn’t called “Pounding the Rock”.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 7, 2008 7:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

we will see.

we still have a chance to lose to OKC

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Dec 7, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

chance?

more like…likely

it will be a good thing tho, maybe it will force some major changes

by DeepS on Dec 7, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if loosing to "Oklahoma City"

is what it takes to get Nelson out, then bring on consecutive win #10.

by Aware1 on Dec 8, 2008 1:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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