RECAP: Warriors 120, Suns 118 - Rising Son!

by YaoButtaMing on Feb 13, 2008 10:50 PM PST in Recaps Comment 59 comments

What a game, what a game, WHAT A GAME!!!
Tonight the Warriors were winners.
Tonight the Roaracle Crowd were winners.
Tonight all who saw this game nationwide were winners.

So where were you tonight? Did you see the game? Thank god for Tivo because I can watch this game all weekend. I'm pretty sure what we just saw will be more entertaining then anything the all-star weekend can conjure up; even the dunk contest. If you missed the game ...well then what the hell is wrong with you? There are always certain games you circle on your calendar to watch because you know great basketball is going to be played. Ok, maybe not great basketball, but tonight was purely an offensive display of beauty.

Oh and our own GSoM member "ON THE RUN" came away with the prize by guessing the outcome of the total score, 238. Details to come my man.

So let's dive in ...
Jump!

Nellie: "What a game. What a game. I'm ready for a break and I think everybody else is too," Nelson said. "It couldn't happen at a better time. I'm going to forget about basketball for a couple of days."

I have to say, I'm on a basketball high right now. Sure I'm blowing this out of proportion because we still sit 8th in the West and the Suns were missing the big Aristotle, but come on did you see that? Tonight was everything we expected, no defense and a lot of offense. Right from the start both teams were scorching (no pun intended), scoring 70 combined points in the first quarter. The second quarter went by in a flash and at the half the Warriors were up by 4.

This game came down to the final 2 minutes as both teams were shooting over 50% FG, keeping the score close the entire game. With 3 seconds left in the game Amare hit only 1 of 2 free throws, ending the night with 29 points and the inability to tie the game. With just 2 seconds left on the clock the Suns had one last opportunity to tie or win the game, but thankfully Barbosa fell just short, rimming a 3pt shot.

Apart from the constant stars of Nash and Amare, I was impressed with Grant Hill and Barbosa from the Suns. These guys both had 26 and 24 points and kept their team close in the hostile Roaracle stadium. With Hill grabbing 15 boards, it seemed as though both players were all over the place on defense and offense. On our Warriors side, I was impressed with Azubuike and Barnes playing clutch towards the end making tough shots and closing out on defense. Both didn't play many minutes but had major impacts every time they were on.

As for the Stars of the game:

Ellis: Most Improved Player back to back? I heard it again tonight on ESPN and I have to say I completely agree. Monta is blowing my mind this year with his improvements. Actually let me paraphrase ... with his offensive improvements. His lack of defensive still drives me crazy and I won't consider him a great player until he improves; but tonight he showcased his offensive weapons for everyone to see. Swift cuts to the basket with his gorgeous finger roll, Ellis ended the night with 37 points, 9 rebounds, and 5 assists. What's most impressive was his desire to close out the game and take control. With a couple minutes remaining, Ellis drove to the basket, proving his strength by knocking Nash to the ground. I think he's ready for the playoffs (we just have to make them). I can't wait to see how he performs.

Baron: Boom didn't disappoint. I knew he'd come out hot and he did just that. Controlling the game until the very end, he closed out the victory with his game winning shot when he took off from what looked like the free throw line (thinking he was going to dunk) and rolled the ball in as he crashed to the floor over Nash (no foul). Baron had 27 points and 13 assists but more impressively, he help contain Nash and Raja Bell to only 28 points combined.

The Warriors end the first half of the season 32 and 20 and tied in 7th place in the West with Denver and Houston. I'm mad no one on our team made it to the All-Star game but I'm also glad that we have 5 days off to rest so we can make a strong stretch in the second half of the season. Lord knows we need it because right now one of us three will not make the playoffs and we all sit with the same record with Portland looming in the closely.

People I agree with:

Asdf: I've said it before and I'll say it again, Azubuike is the most underrated clutch performer the Warriors have. He is a straight up gamer. He shouldn't be making these shots with only like 2 minutes of play in the past month. But he does, which makes it more remarkable to me. Give him more minutes and I think he could be one of our top 4 clutch performers (behind obviously Baron, Stephen, and lately Monta). "

Jeff Van Gundy: "We should let them keep playing. We should let them play all through all-star weekend. In fact we should have these two teams play each other 16 times in a season"

My sentiments exactly. I wish I was there to see everything unfold in person. My favorite moment of the night came in the end watching the post game interview with Baron and Monta as they joyfully played pushed each other for not guarding Barbosa correctly. Classic.

Need I say who the Warrior Wonder is? Growing up in front of our own eyes Monta Ellis is our rising son. Apart from the impressive stat line, his grace towards the basket, speed and jumping abilities makes this kid so much fun to watch. Put him along Bukie and Wright, our future is bright!

This is what I like to see ...

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Monta

I have to admit that I am incredibly impressed at how much he's improved as a scorer. A .700 FG% in the month of Feb is ridiculous. If you asked me at the beginning of the year, where his game was, I would've said somewhere b/t Bobby Jackson with a ceiling of Tony Parker. But now I'd say he's more closer to Dwayne Wade but with way less polish and less handles. The aspect of his game that I'm most impressed with is his midrange game. Most players don't develop it until they begin to lose their step. But Monta already has a polished one at year 3. This bodes well for his longevity in the league. Even though I still think that his future would be brighter as a PG rather than a SG b/c Baron won't be his defensive safety blanket forever, at least now there's no question in my mind that he's something special. Hopefully we can lock him up longterm. (wow I can't believe I just typed that. I was content with throwing him in for a trade at the beginning of the season)

My question to you guys...how much do you think he's worth at this point? Midlevel? Lower? Barbosa, Kevin Martin, Devin Harris Salary? or higher?

by ThermoElectro on Feb 14, 2008 9:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

MAX OUT

Give this man as much money as is legal. He is going to be a superstar in a year or two. The development of his game has been directly proportional to the consistency of his jumper. The more consistently he made the mid range shot, the easier it got for him to score. I look for him to add three point range soon. When that happens, he will score 30 a game. I think the only players (non center) I would trade him for would be James and maybe Wade. We are so lucky to have this kid. I have never seen such a combination of speed, agility, and hops. The best part? He is Baron's height, people always forget he is 6'3. We have the best backcourt in basketball bar none and that is the real reason this team is so dangerous.

by garin423 on Feb 14, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree but

I hope that doesn't happen. We need monies for other people. Hopefully the fact that he's a small shooting guard right now allows us to sign him for cheaper, and then he develops into a point guard as Baron gets older.

It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Feb 14, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

here we go..

dont throw all your eggs in a basket and "hoping" we'll have something in return! monta is deserving of what the rest of the top 10 shooting guards are getting on average. do you really think mullin is gonna make that same mistake after we've been through with adonal,jrich, murph and dunleavy? it set the team back a couple seasons!

i think monta is having a great season because of the system he plays in. and so did pietrus and barnes last year but look at pietrus and barnes for example. both are in contract years as well but aren't worth the money they were asking for! lets just pay him for what he is worth and not for his potential.

win or lose... playoffs or lottery... i gotta luv them dubz! GSW 4 Life!!!

by gogomaplata on Feb 14, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

here we go..

win or lose... playoffs or lottery... i gotta luv them dubz! GSW 4 Life!!!

by gogomaplata on Feb 14, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He's worth it

To conjur the names of Adonel, Murph, Dunleavy, and even J Rich in relation to Monta is wrong. He has delivered in ways none of them have...in his third year, out of high school. He just dominated Steve Nash (everyones favorite pg) for the third straight time, is averaging 30 in his last ten games and shooting something ridiculous like 60 percent from the field in that time. He gets boards over centers, drops dimes on the break, and scores at least three buckets a game by outrunning the opposing team. If anyone deserves a max contract its him. And you know what? If we don't give it, someone else will. This kid is good going on great. If Mully pays him it will be worth every penny.

There is zero "hope" when it comes to Monta, it was actualized a long time ago. See 37 8 and 5 with one turnover. What else does the guy have to do?

by garin423 on Feb 14, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hm

What else does he have to do? Play some defense haha.

Reppin the Bay at UCLA

by Blitz6k on Feb 14, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Lets not get ahead of ourselves...

I agree that is a pleasure watching Monta in front of us, but saying he is the third most valuable non-big in the league is jumping the gun a whole lot. His defense is absolutely terrible, and if Barbosa had hit a wide open 3 pointer that he had been hitting all night we would be having a very different conversation...

If you were being sarcastic, it definitely went over my head, but c'mon when there are extremely young players like Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Josh Smith, Joe Johnson etc. etc. lighting/filling up the boxscores, he definitely isn't untradeable...

Reppin the Bay at UCLA

by Blitz6k on Feb 14, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I will give you Paul

forgot about that baller, maybe even Roy, but seriously, if you look at the total package few players can do what Monta does. I guess what scares me about him is, he is already so good and he still hasn't even scratched the surface. I am sure we will be on here in two years, we can compare notes then while talking about how sick the warriors are.

by garin423 on Feb 14, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Is it just me?

I know theyre both listed at 6'3 but it looks like Monte is atleast an inch taller than Baron. Not that it matters, it just seems that way everytime they stand next to eachother.

by krazybalr on Feb 14, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

monta's defense

is still really, really bad. i urge anyone wanting to give him a max contract to watch him every possession on defense next game and see how it goes. (and remember roger mason, jr., nick young, and chris duhon)

don't get me wrong, though, he's a spectacular scorer who will only continue to get better. wow is he fun to watch. and with his shooting percentage he's a perfect compliment to baron and jackson on offense.

by Bucky on Feb 14, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Great game

Had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I agree with you about Az though. He only played 15 minutes last night, but his presence was definitely felt. I would much rather see him out there than Mikey Pietrus.

On a lighter note, the post game interview with Baron and Monta was hilarious.

by danschmeck on Feb 14, 2008 9:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

awesome game

playoff atmosphere at roracle!! I watched the whole game, very fun basketball all along.

Ellis is the man, plain and simple. He's a top player right now i don't care what anybody says, sure he need to improve on defense, but on offense he's virtually unstoppable.
baron as walways came through in the clutch. It's great to see how be takes over games like that.

I agree Azubuike should get more minutes, he adds a lot from the bench. Nelson didn't look to happy after he traveled on one play haha.

In the end, a great game between to fun to watch teams, luckily we won it cause it could have gone either way.

by aqs1980 on Feb 14, 2008 10:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

none like him

I have a question, can anyone name a player that you can compare Monta to? I have been thinking, and I really can't. Everyone I think of, Monta "one-ups" that player with an extra skill-set/ability.
i.e. Tony Parker....Monta faster, jumps higher, better jump shot, more athletic

i.e. Barbosa....Monta better shot, stronger/more control going to rim.

i.e. Allen Iverson....Monta wayyyy better shooter, jumps higher hangs longer.

Monta has an odd and rare combo of being on the shorter side (for NBA standards) and still able to hise above others at the rim (and with jump shot), take hits mid-air and still have strength to finish and contort his body, as well as still NOT be a volume shooter. On top of that, name anyone else with all that AND can still rebound (I'm really impressed with that) and assist.
There isn't another player like that, what do you guys think????

by ineemoney21 on Feb 14, 2008 10:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Raw Dwayne Wade

He doesn't have D wade's handles...

by ThermoElectro on Feb 14, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Handles

Monta doesn't need D-Wade's handles...obviously. The kid just blows right past anyone in the league!

!!Spree for three!!

by peteb24 on Feb 14, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Handles Needed ... yes sir!

Last possession, when the game is on the line, can't give the ball to Monta. Weak handles. We've seen him turn it over many times under that kind of pressure.

That's not a knock. Even MJ had to improve parts of his game each summmer. So does Monta.

by soem on Feb 14, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're only referencing Monta's pros...

Parker - Big time distributor, knows what to do and when, better handles, superior defender.

Barbosa - Umm... 3 point range? He's a 6th man at this point with the top distributing PG in the league, so it's kinda unfair to expect domination out of him.

Iverson - Veteran all star, VASTLY SUPERIOR HANDLES, more heart and determination than probably anybody in the league, superior defender.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 15, 2008 6:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

anyone at the game?

was anyone one booing pietrus? i could hear a little booing in the background but when he made them blocks... man it must've looked awesome in person!

win or lose... playoffs or lottery... i gotta luv them dubz! GSW 4 Life!!!

by gogomaplata on Feb 14, 2008 10:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Monta is Getting Even More Confident...

Loved seeing him look for the ball at the end and try to score in the half court. What a combo at the end of games, Baron or Monta with SJax being a great spotup outlet and Al not a bad 4th option.

One of the most enjoyable games in a long time (since playoffs). Warriors match up well with the Suns.

SJax did not have a great shooting night, but I give him huge compliments, here is a 3 playing the 1st Team All-NBA Center almost all game, fronting, fighting. Great job.

Nothing better than "The City".

by philsmith75 on Feb 14, 2008 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wade vs. Monta

would you take Wades handle or Monta consistant jumper?

by ineemoney21 on Feb 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'd take Wade's handles and consistent jumper

Hands down. Oh, and his size too.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 15, 2008 6:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

man

to think, if Monta actually got D-Wade calls, his career high would be a lot closer to 50 rather than 40!

art by jnazaire 07

by disguy on Feb 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Monta

Monta is playing out of his mind lately--the kid is simply electric. Obviously, he can't keep up the 70% shooting clip forever, but we've seen that when his J is falling, he's virtually unguardable.

Not that last night's game needed it, but I can't remember the last time one single player made an entire game so much fun to watch. It's kind of at the level where every time he touches the ball, you can feel the Oracle pulse with anticipation, which hasn't happened since... well... I guess it'd be Baron in the playoffs last year.

by allonyou on Feb 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yaobutta

So u saying that u wont consider Monta to be a great player because if the D means that Nash isn't one? Gotta disagree with u.

by illmaticwarrior on Feb 14, 2008 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

KJ on Roids

I see a lot of KJ in Monta. He is just not a pure pg, but he makes up for it in athleticism.

by garin423 on Feb 14, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

illmaticwarrior

At this point in his career ... i wouldn't even consider Monta near the word "great". What does great mean to you? How many "great" players are there in the league? I guess my definition of "great" is someone who is a hall of famer, leads the league in categories, and/or leads a team to contention.

Monta, as my favorite warrior, is a great player in my heart, but i can't consider him one of the best players in the league just yet.

You are correct that Nash has NO Defense, but he makes up for it on the assists, scoring, and other categories. He also won 2 MVP's so i have to consider him great.

Don't get me wrong, i think Monta will be great very soon, but his assists are low and his defense needs to improve before I would say he's the best.
just my opinion.

by YaoButtaMing on Feb 14, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Very Nice Recap, But ...

... don't sell us short. Once said the Dubs were in 8th and later said Ws were tied for 7th with Denver and Houston.

With tiebreakers, the Warriors are alone at 7th in the West.

Have to celebrate those small victories!

Props to Baron and S-Jax for allowing and enabling Monta to do his thing, even on National TV.

by soem on Feb 14, 2008 10:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Soem

you know that's a great point I wish I made in my recap ... that Baron and SJax did play unselfish ball to let Monta go at it. I didn't think about that so great point.

As for the records. It wasn't until last night we were in 7th. We've been in 8th the whole year w/ Houston right behind us and Denver in front. All three are playoff caliber teams, so it will be interesting to see who falls off.
Scary!

by YaoButtaMing on Feb 14, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Its gonna be Houston

Yao will break down having to play as much as he has in the first half and McGrady is always a question mark. If either goes down, say goodbye to the Rockets (Who are incredibly hot right now).

AS for Portland, their streak is over. they might go .500 in the second half.

!!Spree for three!!

by peteb24 on Feb 14, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

that pic

is jordan esque

by djchuckdeez on Feb 14, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

how bout

austin croshere with that monster block!? haha it was good to see him get some minutes and he was very active during his time.

by lowchi on Feb 14, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

NAsh/Paul

The difference i think that makes both baron and Monta as valuable and productive than those 2 all world point guards, is the lack of a dominant big, as you can see, nash can throw it within a 4 foot radius of amare to gather an assist, same with paul and chandler, with beans, the ball has to be given to him to score. baron doesn't get those 3 to 5 assists a night off of alley oops and easy dominiating power that come from tyson/amare that paul and nash get. BARON FOR MVP! MONTA MIP again. GO DUBS

by MontaAND1 on Feb 14, 2008 12:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

definately

couldnt of said it better

"nahhh...barons the one that would've been in trouble" haha...whole conversation got a good laugh out of me

by Ganzr12 on Feb 14, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Great game...

I'm glad Nelson came to his senses and threw Azibuke in the game. Now they need to trade Pietrus and get him some more minutes. A few mental errors, but he hit some clutch shots.
Was glad to see Croshere back. I'm sorry, but he looked way better than Webber has so far. Adds a little bit of depth in the front court.
I will never understand what some people have against Ellis, but that is a superstar in the making. If we let him go or trade him, that would be a huge mistake. The scary thing watching him is that you see he still has room for improvement and is capable of being a top-tier player.

by tangel29 on Feb 14, 2008 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Some people just don't get it...

Webber was signed because Croshere has been injured. He has a back injury. Back injuries are lingering and prevent you from playing. It's not like a sprained finger, or a bruise... you just can't play because your back spasms every time you run, jump, or walk. If Croshere was healthy (like he sort of is now) Webber would be still chillin' at his restaurant in Sacto, or maybe slowing things down in LA.

Monta is great. But you have to realize that he's hot right now. He's hitting his jumpers, he's smooth to the basket, and he's getting shooter's rolls (remember that lefty, off the wrong foot shot that slammed off the back of the rim bounced around a few times and fell... yeah "shooter's roll"). His jumper is going to cool off, people are actually going to start putting their top defender on him (like the Suns finally did at the very end), or something else will take him out of his rhythm. He doesn't suck, so he'll still get his, but he's not an All Star yet, so don't go giving him the throne. He needs to learn to play defense better than Nash, he seems to be improving his confidence, and he seems to be learning a bit more about how to distribute the ball without turning it over. Can he get there? Definitely, but there are too many players who were close but never panned out for it to be a given that Monta will become an All Star.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 15, 2008 6:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry....

but going on two years is hardly a hot streak. Except for the playoffs, Ellis has proven to be a proficent scorer and has shown he can make adjustments to his game to improve.
To compare him to other players that flame out early on is unfair. He seems to have the work ethic and desire to be a top tier player. Also his jumper rarely needs a "shooters roll" when it hits the bottom of the net. He does need to improve his game, but his future is very bright. If the Warriors gave up on him they'd be making a big mistake that some other team would gladly deal with the ever decreasing growing pains this kid displays on the court.

by tangel29 on Feb 15, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nash on Monta's jock

"He's a superior athlete," Nash said. "He's fast, he jumps and there's not much you can do once he gets a head of steam in transition."

by gabecruz on Feb 14, 2008 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Monta Ellis

He's probably one of the most exciting players to watch right now. But please, stop the Dwyane Wade comparisons. We're just making ourselves, as Warriors fans, sound totally ridiculous.

When Monta Ellis averages 24ppg for his career, not just for one week, then we can start comparing him to Wade.

When he starts getting over 6 assists per game, then we can start comparing him to Wade.

When he starts playing defense and not getting destroyed by the garbage of the Association (Roger Mason, Nick Young, etc), then we can start comparing him to Wade.

When he puts his team on his back and leads his team through an entire postseason to the NBA title and gets the Finals MVP award, or does anything of significance in the playoffs for that matter, then we can start comparing him to Wade.

Until then, Monta Ellis has alot to prove before we go ahead and put the crown on his head.

by jlagace on Feb 14, 2008 5:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

But

Dwyane Wade does average an atrocious 4.44 TOs/game compared with Montas 1.86/game.

Bring on the BD Show!!!

by dajrichshow on Feb 14, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you missed one...

Once he starts falling 3-4 more times a game, then we can start comparing him to Wade.

by lightz0ut on Feb 14, 2008 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

although he has to be careful

Anything more than that is stepping into the Manu, Varejao, Devin Harris category.

by lightz0ut on Feb 14, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He even admits it

Fall down 7 times, get up 8

Bring on the BD Show!!!

by dajrichshow on Feb 14, 2008 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're taking it too literally

People are trying to imagine what Monta might someday turn into. It's like how every white receiver in the NFL draft always gets compared to Steve Largent, Ed McCaffery, or will be compared to Wes Welker.

Nobody's saying Monta's as good as Wade, just that his game is styled like Wade's. He's not a pure distributor, he's not a deep shooter. They both have solid inside-outside games and make a few amazing athletic plays every game. Monta's not there in his head, he's not there with his handles, and he's not there with his size. These relate to his assist numbers, performance in the playoffs last year, and his defense. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 15, 2008 6:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

haha I dunno

When people start saying things like "I wouldn't trade Monta for anyone in the league right now", it kinda perplexes me. I could easily name 20+ players in the NBA right now that I'd give Monta up for if the opportunity arrived. It's called selling high my friends.

The rise of Monta makes me nervous. I can already imagine Mullin extending him to some ridiculous $10+ mil/yr contract this offseason because of all the hype. I wish Monta could stay under the radar and blow up for us next season, but I guess it doesn't work like that when young guns are playing for their contracts.

by jlagace on Feb 15, 2008 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd take some dude named....

Dwight Howard and be content with it.

by lightz0ut on Feb 15, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

stupid fouls

everbody seems to always see Pietrus commit stupid fouls, but did you see how many more stupid fouls Baron committed last night???

He was a culprit for a couple of easy 3pt plays for the Suns... just saying...

by lightz0ut on Feb 14, 2008 6:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Baron

was forced to guard much bigger players like Amare or Hill on multiple occasions, resulting in lots of fouls and 3 point plays. On a similar note, does anyone notice how many 3 point plays Harrington gives up every game?!

Bring on the BD Show!!!

by dajrichshow on Feb 14, 2008 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

BD vs. Pietrus

Baron

was forced to guard much bigger players like Amare or Hill on multiple occasions, resulting in lots of fouls and 3 point plays.

You can easily say the same about Pietrus... at least Baron is usually guarding a GUARD, Pietrus is asked to guard Amare like it's his position.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 15, 2008 6:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

Harrington is offensive minded. He doesn't know how to play defense like Biedrins. But under Nelly's system it is obvious that he has to play center sometimes...... and the end result is usually a lot of fouls... just my observation.

brb, going to ORACLE

by warrior510 on Feb 14, 2008 7:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

But

If you're going to foul, at least make sure you foul hard enough so they don't get a 3 pt play! Harrington just doesn't seem to get that.

Bring on the BD Show!!!

by dajrichshow on Feb 14, 2008 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He gets fouls by putting his hands on people

he isn't even trying to foul or even trying to play defense. It looks like a lazy habit IJBO (In Jim Barnett's Opinion).

That's why he's the #1 3-point-play offender. Barnes on the other hand, that dude knows how to foul someone. Amare's reaction to Barnes's clean, hard foul. It was almost like "do you know who I am?".

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 14, 2008 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yah...

then he does the "WHAT?!?!!!!" face

by lightz0ut on Feb 14, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I love that

Barnes doesn't step down to anyone in the league after a hard foul.

Except one time against Dwight Howard.. I remember Barnes was face-to-face against Dwight Howard after a hard foul for like a second. Barnes is no idiot though, looked the other way real quick, can't mess with the 6'11" man-beast D.Howard. It's a good thing that kid doesn't have a mean/crazy streak, imagine Ron Artest or Stephen Jackson's brain in Dwight Howard's body.

by jlagace on Feb 14, 2008 11:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

to help your imagination a little bit

there was someone who came close...Dennis Rodman. His body might not have been as big as the man-beast but his mean/crazy streak is definitely up there.

And if you think that's scary, imagine if you put Mike Tyson's brain in Dwight Howard's body. I'd be scared to drive to the lane with him guarding.

by lightz0ut on Feb 15, 2008 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

asdf

Nobody on the Dubs seems to get that, I swear to God they never prevent a lay up or dunk with a foul, they always give the other team 3 point plays with little touch fouls, there's nothing that pisses me off more than that about the Dubs.