Nash Annoying Habit
Every time he did it, I cringed as Steve Nash jumped under our elevating players.
Nash doesn't get criticized for much, but it really annoys me when he jumps under our players who have already elevated toward the basket.
Thankfully, the refs were not buying his flops in the last PHX-Warrior game.
Obviously, Nash knows that once a player leaps and leaves the floor, jumping under them at that point is a blocking foul, by rule. So why does he continue to make that move so often? Is it to injure more athletic players to slow them down? Is it to trade on his MVP reputation, in effect asking the refs to help him out by making charge-calls when they shouldn't?
It is such a dangerous move to jump under elevated players, that it just annoys me every time I see Nash make the move. But I guess nothing will be done until some player really gets hurt or paralyzed -- then the league might step in with a rule on that particular play.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Until we cut down on calling for offensive foul this stuff won't stop.
by saintdee on Feb 16, 2008 11:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
and that's the problem with the NBA
by lightz0ut on Feb 16, 2008 2:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Very true
by olympicmike on Feb 16, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
asdf
come on, everyone in the nba and their mama does it.
"TIMEOUT IN BARON'S HOUSE"
by the noTORious TOR on Feb 16, 2008 6:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nash Doesn't Get A Pass
Why are people willing to give Nash a pass, with the exaggeration, that everyone: a) waits for athletic players to get airborne, and then b) runs up under them -- making a dangerous play.
That's the one and only play I'm highlighting for Nash critique.
Everyone - definitely does not make that play. And Nash does it with regularity. Check the tape of the last game.
I'll go further and say something I respect about the Warriors. The Dubs on balance tend to go out of their way to avoid plays that would hurt other players. A lot of the tick-tack fouls the Dubs make (which frustrate me too at times) are the result of the W's laying off too hard fouls when players are airborne and off balance. That, I respect.
Former MVP Nash should help set the standard. Not succumb to a foul/thuggish play just because so many people may have the erroneous perception that -- everyone does it.
by soem on Feb 16, 2008 8:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
let's make it clear
I don't think Baron, on a driving Kobe, would think "oh I might hurt his pinky again so I'll just kinda swipe the ball but not do it too hard that I might injure him." What I respect (and I especially hate Barnes in this regard) is coming to a player after a hard foul/fall. Now that's respect. Saying a player would make a ticky tack foul out of respect is ridiculous
by lightz0ut on Feb 17, 2008 2:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*Now that's respect
by lightz0ut on Feb 17, 2008 2:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
What MVP Nash is responsible for is getting their too slow. The Dubs do it too. Whenever a blocking call is called outside of the cyclinder its usually the result of slowness. Dubs get called for it too. All teams get called for it. No one is saying its right but thats just the way NBA is played now. Defense is hard. Its easier to try and flop then it is to play lockdown defense.
by saintdee on Feb 16, 2008 9:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha
by ellibeans on Feb 16, 2008 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
he's a Peyton Manning level finger licker...
i am VERY glad someone brought this whole Nash subject up though. it absolutely KILLS me that the great white hope gets handed MVP awards without an ability to play on half the given floor. everyone's in love with offense, sure, but is it really a coincidence that we expose him as a minor liability every time we play them? does an MVP get exposed like that? granted, beside Nelson, the "geniuses" coaching NBA teams don't seem to understand this very basic tenet. they chalk Nash up as the "best point guard in the league," let him run around willy nilly without forcing him to do even minor work on the defensive end, and usually lose. he's already relegated to playing only 2/3 of every game because of his back, and then they give him a free pass while he's in to inflict the most damage possible.
it's very simple. yes, his kind of defense is positively reinforced by the league and its officials' obsession with the offensive foul. but equally true is that he wouldn't simply opt for some other strategy if the league were to improve their philosophy. he jumps in front of already committed players/flops because he has NO other recourse - he's not tough/strong/quick(moving backwards)/long/committed enough to guard anyone.
by 321 IN n OUT on Feb 17, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a result of the rules
a) jump up and try to contest
b) stand still and try to take the charge
If you try to jump up and try to contest, if you're Steve Nash in this league, 100% of the time you're going to get called for the foul and possibly give up a 3-point play. If you try to stay on the ground, you at least have a slim chance to draw a charge. In the split second moment, it's not like it's easy for them to gauge whether or not they'll get the charge call or not. As fans watching on broadcast, we get the luxury of watching things in extreme slow motion; it's alot different when they're playing in the game. Don't hate the player, hate the rules. What else would you expect him to do in that situation, just get out the way?
by jlagace on Feb 17, 2008 2:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
asdf
"TIMEOUT IN BARON'S HOUSE"
by the noTORious TOR on Feb 17, 2008 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone See The All-Star Game
Not one. Even at winning time when the intensity picked up.
Why? Respect. They don't want any super-stars injured.
So tell me again why Nash resorted to it so much in the Warrior game, but not once in All Star game?
... just saying ... and now I'll leave it be :)
by soem on Feb 17, 2008 10:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
asdf
you're a little paranoid. no one is out to get you, don't worry.
"TIMEOUT IN BARON'S HOUSE"
by the noTORious TOR on Feb 17, 2008 11:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If you think that's bad
by pingpong on Feb 18, 2008 3:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
asdf
"TIMEOUT IN BARON'S HOUSE"
by the noTORious TOR on Feb 18, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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