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Derek Fisher Rule

Its hard not be incensed by the outrageous call to end the game tonight, Fisher tackling Monta.  Monta getting called for the foul...  At best is should have been a no-call with all the contact during that inbounds play. But Fisher does this game after game and everyone knows it yet he still gets the calls.  And not only does he get calls, they come at game altering times when the whistle is totally inappropriate.  

So it got me thinking... If the ref's finally acknowledged Reggie Millers silly leg kick and gave us the Reggie Miller rule, why can't we have a Derek Fisher rule?!?  

What are everyone's thoughts on this?  

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Maybe not a "Derek Fisher Rule"...
But maybe the best thing would be for the league to implement an instant-replay function on plays like that. Something like each coach gets 1 challenge in the last 2 minutes of every basketball game or something like that. Because if the refs were able to look at that on replay, they would be able to decide it was the wrong call and the Warriors would get another shot at it. Simple as that. Players shouldn't be able to flop like that and decide a game; it's just not right. Bias or no bias.
Adonalmao = Adonal + LMAO http://youtube.com/watch?v=lkoNgq-O3R4

by Adonalmao on Mar 25, 2008 12:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree big time!
What I wanna know is how we can get that refs email so we can send him some serious hate mail! I mean c'mon this is a perfect example of why we need instant replay! If the NBA allowed that rule last nights game wouldn't have been a problem. Aside from the Derek Fish rule, if they do that then they should have the Bruce Bowen rule where he steps into someones jump when trying to make a shot. all I gotta say is when there is 4 seconds on the clock LET THEM PLAY!!

by frecoder78 on Mar 25, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nba refs association
http://www.probasketballrefs.com/default.aspx

not the refs themselves but better than nothing if u really wanna write a letter

by AJC3317 on Mar 25, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just went there
The first ad I seen was Bob Delaney's book. If he writes the same way he refs...
Put a little mustard on it

by The Barnes Supremacy on Mar 25, 2008 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or
Just take out refs altogether in the final 2 minutes. Let players wreak havoc all they want and call their own fouls (or not).

I kid, I kid.


"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Mar 25, 2008 12:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fisher's comment
I thought it was going to be a no-call, just two guys fall down and the play goes on,'' Fisher said. ''So when the whistle blew, it caught me off-guard as well. ... I don't think anybody was necessarily guilty of anything, but from the angle that Bob had, it looked (Ellis) had his hands to my chest, which he did. But like I said, I wasn't trying to fall down at all in that situation.''

right a no-call... yea like grabbing your knees and rolling around wasn't done to attract attention..

by saintdee on Mar 25, 2008 12:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

asdf
and he didnt mention that at the angle bob had "i wrapped my left arm around monta and brought him down"

by twelve years on Mar 25, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The whole team
All the Lakers were holding players from what I saw and it looked like Fisher pulled Al down too. I think it was a team strategy and another veteran move by the Fish. I remember last year he pulled a similar move in the playoffs w/ the Jazz fakin an elbow from Diddy. I agree there should be a rule for that or a double foul and  reinbound since they all fell, but I can't knock a playa for beatin the system

by Muggsy on Mar 25, 2008 12:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

asdf
actually...you can knock him for that.
"TIMEOUT IN BARON'S HOUSE"

by the noTORious TOR on Mar 25, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Wholeheartedly. I mean how does D-Fish come up with a quote like that EVEN when he's the one that's making this simple fall seem like Shaq fell on him?

D-Fish is a WARRIOR KILLER... plain and simple. But what are we to do? Someone needs to tell the Warriors organization that they need to come out more publicly regarding things like these. I hate going to all of these games and simple ref calls can mean so much.

Golden State Warriors fan since 1984. The Filipino sensation!

by RayAlmeda on Mar 25, 2008 12:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i sent the nba this letter
hey NBA-

i just saw a great basketball game turn into a huge, sobering disappointment!

let me explain:

i am a fan of (in the following order):

1)athletic challenges and achievements of all varieties
2)basketball- as a participant and as a spectator
3)the NBA
4)the GSWarriors (as a bay area native and resident)

i have been once again enjoying the warriors team and players and the style of basketball they are playing and the success they've been having- in fact it has threatened to turn me into more of a fan than i'd like to admit- watching almost every warrior game in it's entirety, posting comments on sports and fan sites, actually going to a game at the oracle for the first time in about ten years and planning on returning a few more times this year.... i was planning on spending hard-earned money to watch great athletes compete in person, (we sat 6 rows from the court earlier this year as a $pecial treat) i was getting swept up... until tonight, and the conclusion of the warriors/lakers game, 'won' but not decided, by the lakers in overtime.
it was a more than typically thrilling game which was set and headed to a last warrior possession which would either tie, win, or , probably more likely, lose the game. whatever, the game would be decided with the ball in the warriors hands, or maybe the lakers would steal it, but these great athletes would have the opportunity to conclude the last and decisive 4.0 seconds of a beautifully dramatic three hours of epic rivalry during one last play- win or lose, it just doesn't get any better.
but i guess i should thank the ref who made the decision to decide the game for the athletes- i feel like i've been forcefully snapped out of a spell. i have a real life, and more important things to do, than watch a sport whose officiating  ultimately has far  too much to do with the outcome. i love basketball, i love sports, it's something in my life i'm passionate about, i don't think i really have ever had a choice in the matter- but i do have a choice about whether or not to spend 2-3 hours 82 times a year watching the nba, where great athletes (and fans) are at the mercy of referees and officials who greatly influence the opportunities of the players to use and express their athletic skills and gifts and decide the outcomes of the games. referees who are supported by a league that sanctions the influences of favoritism- toward it's "stars", or based on players reputations- either by percieved role/specialty or perceived 'citizenship', and by gifting 'home court' favoritism, and a pecking order of franchises etc...- not to mention the breach by gambling influences- anyways, after this travesty of an ending, enough! i invest my time and money for the privilege of seeing premier athletes competing, and instead i get non-athletes dictating and over-influincing the outcomes; not a smart investment for me.
so, thanks to this "wake-up call" (as opposed to the "make-up call") i'm going to give it a rest and do something worthwhile with my time and money.

* if the warriors had won in the same manner i would have been just as disgusted- i would have asked the refs for a gift receipt, or maybe just asked that the "win" be donated to the miami heat or the memphis grizzlies or put to some other use...

tonight was such a shame, both teams are good, competed great, put on great show, and i have to thank the players from both teams, it aint nothing you could do.

in the future, maybe the nba could use a double foul type call to untangle a broken play and reset so that the game can be decided by PLAYING!!!

ridiculous

"mr jones got him a basketball jones"

by knucklevision on Mar 25, 2008 1:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

'won' but not decided....
certainly you meant "decided, but not 'won'".

by 321 IN n OUT on Mar 25, 2008 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you decide
i think i mean that the lakers 'won' as far as the official count is concerned, but the game was decided by the refs, not by the lakers or the warriors players...
"mr jones got him a basketball jones"

by knucklevision on Mar 25, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derek Fisher
as a whole gets on my nerves. another classic story of a player who can SUCK on our end, can't make a funny looking lefty rainbow to save his life, and can drain big shots with the jazz and lakers to continue to haunt us. i just knew that last play would have took it to 2OT or at the least been a good look or even won the game with an And1...but here comes Fish once again with a tackle on Monta...I mean come on, his swoll body can't sustain getting bumped, if that, by Monta? and too true about him tackling Monta to the ground, if anything he tripped on his way back and tried to use Monta as an anchor to stay up...BS
...never a fairweather fan...

by BayBoyNLA on Mar 25, 2008 1:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i had to
ok, i just had to vent.
i didn't blame fisher, the refs should see through that crap, just like bowen gets away with murder, etc...
blaming d-fish is the smaller issue, the responsibility flows from the top.
but then imagine if players got to call their own fouls, like at the park, lol

"Kobe Bryant and Derek Fisher combined to sink 169 of 208 free throws last night as the lakers beat the warriors 171-118 to improve their record to 62-0..."

"mr jones got him a basketball jones"

by knucklevision on Mar 25, 2008 1:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok, last one...
the good news is that i think fisher did get dinged when AH3 landed on him in the aftermath of 'the tackle'... then the writhing and moaning-  well, he plays football... but he aint no football player.
"mr jones got him a basketball jones"

by knucklevision on Mar 25, 2008 1:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

how
is that good news? its not like we play the lakers anymore.. we want fisher to be in top form so they can stay in the top seed while we move to the 7th seed. Let Denver have the 8th and knock Dallas out.

by saintdee on Mar 25, 2008 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
you act like what you just said is just common sense
Adonalmao = Adonal + LMAO http://youtube.com/watch?v=lkoNgq-O3R4

by Adonalmao on Mar 25, 2008 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
i mean i don't think it was soccer-style acting and writhing (others had commented that he was faking)... which would be even more disgusting. i don't mean i hope he got badly hurt or that that would be good news, but i don't think he was faking and i don't mind him taking a little pain for his 'work'.
you do make a point though.
"mr jones got him a basketball jones"

by knucklevision on Mar 25, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude
we should all be pissed about it, but u gotta admit, d-fish was pretty smooth getting that call. 10/10.

by latvianlegendflex on Mar 25, 2008 3:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why not just call it the Britney Spears rule?
"when the little talent you have quit returning dividends long ago, yet your thirst to stay in the public eye drives you to continue running around in a world of legitimate stars, performing dubious acts of attention-getting."

i know it's a stretch, but i HATE Derek Fisher, and i don't HATE too many people.

Derek Fisher has been my least favorite NBA player for as long as i can remember (yes, even when he played for us, which was a joke - Fisher will always be a Laker, so it's perfect that he'll end there).  few players have had their limited achievements exaggerated to the extent of Fisher's, based inequitably on who everyone thinks he is off the court.  i couldn't give a $#&%, because on the court he's a cheat & a hack & a self-promoter, none of which are admirable qualities for anyone to espouse in any walk of life.

every missed layup last night was a little bundle of joy for me.  you can literally see his eyes and body praying for a foul every time he goes to the hoop.  he's almost completely abandoned the goal of actually focusing the ball into the basket.  

the guy CAN HIT WIDE OPEN 3-POINTERS, and somehow, because of "what a nice guy he is," and the "turmoil he experienced in his family life" this has turned him, publicly, into a whole slew of basketball things he actually is not.  the fact that he left his recovering daughter's bedside to make a very public display of his return to the Jazz during the playoffs last year is a JOKE, and anyone who wanted to treat that as "father of the year" credentials needs to be choked.  

the guy drives me mad.    

by 321 IN n OUT on Mar 25, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What if...
We took something out of the NFL rule book and have one challenge per game. This is probably a really dumb idea but last night I wish Nellie had a yellow flag filled with sand that he could've thrown onto the court to challenge that play. How cool would that have been!


copy & paste: geocities.com/nellieballtee

by JonDoe on Mar 25, 2008 8:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What about the pace?
With any sort of replay rule you sacrifice game pace and continuity.  The replay works for a rule heavy, and stoppage heavy game like football, but not for the NBA.

by niky f baby on Mar 25, 2008 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheat to win...
all championship teams know how to cheat a little bit. fooling the refs to get calls is part of the game. the dubs do it too. not getting the call last night is no excuse for losing the game... they got beat plain and simple... Warriors go on to win the championship! you heard it here first.||
"No Respect! I tell you man, No Respect!"

by oldskool on Mar 25, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a bad call, but...
The warriors shouldn't have put themselves in that position in the first place by hitting their free throws.  

Secondly, props to odom and that foreign dude who hit those 3s.  

Third, I absolutely HATE the lakers (and I went to school at UCLA too), but D-Fish is one of my all time favorites.  it's just too bad that when we had D-fish he had to be option 1 or 2, as oppose to his role on the lakers, playing defense and being option 4 or 5 (spot up j's).  

Still, refs shouldn't have called it, let the play run.  seriously, there was what, 4 seconds anyways.

by diggitydawg510 on Mar 25, 2008 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

officiating travesty
i too wrote the nba. I did not even see the game--but after seeing so many similiar star flops, overreactions, star stare downs to earn their call, and favoritism---I had to speak out. The nba will turn into the mlb if they lose integrity and turn a blind eye to justice in officiating. i have more to say but got to run. God has a way of evening everything out in the end.peace out fellow fans.

by 11allstar on Mar 25, 2008 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I always assume
that the lakers are faking when they're writhing on the floor... especially Derek Fisher.

This isn't meant as an argument, but I totally thought Kobe was faking from the replays of when he got smashed by Baron.  to me, the replays looked like they were missing a frame, or it was so fast that they didn't catch the actual contact. I thought he just bucked his head back to fake and was on the floor...

then he popped up with a wicked Souvenir!!!
I want to see them slap a sponge bob sticker on that sucker

by Baron Von DOOM on Mar 25, 2008 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To make matters worse
The correct call is a foul on Fish.  If called as such, due to the foul taking place prior to the ball being inbounded, not only does Monte get 2 shots, but the Warriors get the ball back with the same 3-4 seconds on the clock.  

by NKDN8 on Mar 25, 2008 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stop
Youre making me cry!

by barojax on Mar 25, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There should definetely be that rule-
And noone has mentioned yet (as far as I've read) a positive that can come out of all of this. Now I'm not going to say I'm over it or anything because I still feel sick from monday night, but with the attention that this play has gotten, maybe this is the point where Fisher stops getting away with this kind of shit. Before he might have had already had a reputation as a flopper (not any real noteworthy ones though), but you've gotta think refs will now see this infamous play in their heads every time they even think of Derek Fisher.
Who knows, the Warriors might have lost a terribly important game, but perhaps a perennial flopper has been exposed for good (and the whole NBA will benefit).

by st jean ruined my childhood on Mar 26, 2008 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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