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Article about the Flopping Fish in Oakland.

I'm not sure if this deserves a diary, but some people might want to read it.

If you missed Monday night's Warriors/Lakers game, it was an unfortunate ending to a great NBA game. With few seconds left in OT, the Warriors had the ball and Monta Ellis was called for a foul for "running over" Derek Fisher. Replays showed that Fisher clearly pulled him down, costing the Warriors a chance to tie or win the game.

No one is disputing that it was a blown call. Calls get missed all the time.

My biggest problem with it is that the refs are trained to learn the players and their reputations. Given that, and the fact that Fisher is the biggest flopper in the NBA, how does he get the benefit of the doubt on anything, let alone a game-deciding play?

Fisher is a great guy off the court, a class act. But on the court he's a fraud. After that call he remained sprawled on the ground and "played hurt." That's because even he felt bad, saying after the game that it should have been a no-call.

Yeah right Fish, you were hoping for that exact call. That's how you play the game. That's how you've always played the game.

Remember in last year's playoffs when Fisher was with Utah and Baron gave him that little elbow to the head and Fish fell and played hurt for about three minutes? Well I'm beginning to think he was faking that too. (When Baron was asked what he told Fisher after that, he jokingly said "I told him stop flopping and making me look bad.")

The NBA can put an end to this from floppers like Fisher.

They made an effort to rid the league of so many bad charging calls (a stat in which Fisher always led the league every year). The refs are calling blocking fouls when the play can go either way, and it has discouraged players from trying to take charges. Great move by the league.

If you want to discourage players like Fisher from doing what he did last night, you NEVER give him the benefit of the doubt on close calls until he stops flopping. Trust me, a few months of that and this nonsense will end.

http://warriors.realgm.com/articles/150/20080325/fisher_the_fraud/

In my opinion, that call was flat out disgusting. I don't care if I sound like a whiny Warriors fan or whatever. I just can't believe that I actually spent  almost 3 hours for that game... up until the last seconds of the game, the battle was amazing, the atmosphere was that of a playoff game showcasing Pacific Division action, Baron vs. Kobe and the fast paced action between athletic players going neck and neck, the crowd going wild, the intensity that was building up towards the end of regulation made my heart go crazy. The Warriors went on a stunning 10-1 run to send the game to overtime.

All of those moments and emotions throughout the game had compiled together to create big momentum for a huge climax.

What did it ALL lead to?? It led to a referee, who had a bad angle on the last play, making the big call to DECIDE the game... ensuring the Lakers a victory.

So we sat in front of our TV's for 2 and a half hours, screaming and going wild, just to end up seeing a damn referee decide the game. That call KILLED everything that the game was building up for. Even if he hadn't blown the whistle and the Warriors were to miss the shot, we wouldn't have gone crazy since a missed shot would have been the Warriors losing the game, not a ref. Instead, it was a damn whistle that gave the Lakers a victory, NOT a heartbreaking Kobe gamewinner, but a damn whistle. We play hard just to have some ref make everything that the Warriors did irrelevant. Although you COULD say that Fisher was clutch that game... I can't think of any other player that could come up with a clutch flop to clinch a guaranteed win.

Ahh, hopefully we kill the Trailblazers on national TV this Thursday. Hopefully that makes me forget about this controversy. Although I still remember that one game we had against the Wizards last year. haha.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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welcome
to 20 hours ago.. i am over being pissed now. Life goes on...

by saintdee on Mar 25, 2008 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

oh
So is this what GSoM members are like around here?

Sorry my bad for posting a diary about something that happened yesterday. I didn't know people here only like diaries about events that happen on the current day it's being posted on. I'll try harder next time. Again, my apologies.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 25, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok
i absolve you of your sins. You are forgiven. Go out and prosper.

that or next time try posting something like this in the 4 other places where the discussion about fisher is going on in :)

by saintdee on Mar 25, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

ummmmm
=)

But yeah, like I said to start the diary.

"I'm not sure if this deserves a diary, but some people might want to read it."

It's a diary for an article I came across. Now that I think about it, the article probably doesn't deserve a diary since the author isn't some big name sportwriter or whatever. So yeah, my bad. I didn't notice that "Derek Fisher Rule" diary either. =[

by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 25, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Five Ten Entertainment
is good peoples... he's old school GSoM before everyone decided to believe after we beat Dallas. You know what was worse than the game last night Brotha?

Stuck in the parking lot for an hour... freeway closures or merged lanes on the 880/80 interchange... 2 left lanes closed  in Vallejo and coming home at 1am! ...and we lost! (lol)

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 25, 2008 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

haha thanks man.
Yeah that traffic must have sucked man. lol. That night was all bad for me too, the Warriors losing in that game straight up killed my night. All that screaming just to see a ref ensure a victory to the Lakers. I feel bad for the Warriors fans who were having a bad day, went home to watch the game, and ended up having to go through that crappy moment in the end of the game.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 26, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WISH...
refs would just COMPLETELY stop calling charges unless it's blatantly obvious that someone is just out of control and crashes into someone.

I'll be honest, I think the Warriors flop(I consider trying to take a charge) a LOT, and yesterday was no different. There was the play where Azubuike was blatantly obvious trying to take the charge by moving his left shoulder into the player...and then there was a charge on Kobe where you could clearly see Al moving his body INTO Kobe. That should have been a foul on Al if anything.

Charges...please...just...be gone! They ruin the game...I wish guys just tried to play DEFENSE. People in the playground don't do it...the NBA stars shouldn't be doing it...

by DubsDominate on Mar 25, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

No need to apologize Five Ten Ent.
Good Post and it don't matter when you post something. Continue to Speak your mind and say whatever the hell you want. That's what this website is about. You made some very good points. I was hella pissed off when i was at the game with the horrible an obvious mafia controlled calls as all the Warrior fans were. I'm sure some of the Laker fans agreed as well but of course they are gonna take it. I have learned not to dwell on those idiotic calls because unfortunately they will continue to happen, especially at critical times. Just as those bad calls changed the effect of the game, that half-court pass to Monta in OT that didn't execute would have errupted the Roaracle Arena, disrupted the Laker players focus and destroyed their egos. Maybe if we woulda made some of our free throws too. It all takes into account and i just dont like to point at one thing because there are so many other factors that effect the outcome of the game. Really tough loss. Hard to swallow a loss like that with a horrible ending, but as saint dee said..I too have moved on and am looking forward to the nationally televised game on thursday. The Blazers shouldn't be taken lightly either.

Go Warriors 2008 NBA CHAMPS still.

-chill.

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 25, 2008 10:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss your awesome vids...
Did you ever make that Monta Ellis mix?   I was actually looking forward to that.  Anyways I agree with you. I don't believe that the ref call was as gamebreaking as the one against the wizards last year b/c the one last year cost us a victory.  Hopefully like last year, the Warriors go a run all the way through the end of the season.  

by ThermoElectro on Mar 26, 2008 5:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I think in retrospect
that after a few days I know why I was really upset.  Sure my heart was literally pounding with anticipation for the last fifteen minutes of that ballgame only to be disappointed, but it was one game.
But think if Baron or Jackson would have nailed a three pointer to get the win.  Barring the Dallas wins last year, that would have been the Warrior's biggest sweep in over five years.  We would be watching replays of it for years to come every time the Warriors played the Lakers or needed a three pointer to win.
Also, if the Warriors had not beaten the Trailblazers in that last game of the season last year, that faulty technical in the game against the wizards would have kept the Warriors from making history.
It just seems that with Baron and Stephen Jackson and their respective pasts, the Warriors never get the benefit of the doubt.  The Houston game was a prime example of that.  Hell, I'm surprised how well the team and Nelly takes it, because I know that I'm either at home or in the stands yelling myself.  They are a completely different team emotionally; they have grown. I know that I am not the only one to think that calls are still biased against them.  The have earned the right to be acknowledged by the refs as an elite team, who would not throw away a chance at beating their rivals after pouring out their hearts for 53 minutes on a chance to push Fisher to the ground

P.S.  the challenge call idea is great for the last two minutes of the game and would potentially minimize bad calls in very little extra time.

Keep Monta Movement.

by danielholl on Mar 26, 2008 7:16 AM PDT reply actions  

this has always been my thought, exactly...
...the fact that Fisher is indeed, and has always been, such a "fraud" on the court should, in a rationale world, adversely affect more people's fawning over who he is "off the court."  the discrepancy's just too drastic.  

if you're a chump, you're a chump.  

you can't actually be a really great guy who happens to take advantage of the dark gray corners of the rules at work to deceive and cheat your competition.

by 321 IN n OUT on Mar 26, 2008 9:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Flopping
is one thing, so I'm not going to dog Fisher too much for the mere flop (I mean sooooooo many guys do it in the leauge: Monta, Jackson, Harrington are probably some of the worst in the league.  You're going to get a little flopping from everybody.  It's irritating, but it's true.  Unfortunately, it's just a part of the game today, and it all started in the NCAA -- and we have college coaches to thank for that).

BUT

the fact that Fisher took this flop to another level by lying down on the court for like 3 minutes "in pain" is unbelievably ridiculous.  THAT is what infuriates me, and should infuriate you too.  What a pussy.  A complete joke.  Based on this mere act, it really is like he cheated.  He deceived Delaney.  And unfortunately it cost us a shot to tie/win the game.  Dreadful.

Pray for the guy

by B Randon on Mar 26, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

What was ...
frustrating about the call was that Monta and Jackson had already tried to flop a number of times that game and got no calls their way. But with the game on the line - Laker's get the call. That is why Warrior fans had trouble sleeping that night - b/c we were all rooting for Sacramento a few years back in the playoffs when the sam e thing happened. Preferential treatment is the real thing that needs to be addressed by the NBA. I heard at one point in the third Fourth quarter Bob Fitzgerald say that the Laker's had nine team fouls up to that point - midway through the third. That is ridiculous - we sound like homers saying "we never get any calls" but it's the truth and is the truth for a lot of non-marquee NBA teams/players.  

by triplesix on Mar 26, 2008 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't like
to delve into conspiracy theories, especially for a game I live for.  I agree, 18 fouls to 9, as was the case in the 3rd quarter, is ridiculous, but I think that is just bad officiating.  I don't think that there is any behind-the-scene stuff going on.  Overall, I just think that refs give the best players the best calls, players they aren't too fond of personally not too good of calls, etc. etc.  That's hard to escape.  It sucks, but it's really really really hard to find an impartial ref nowadays.
Pray for the guy

by B Randon on Mar 26, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

FIve Ten...
i love your videos! keep making them, you have the best warrior videos out there on the net! everytime i watch them i get the chills!

by lowchi on Mar 26, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah
I've been really unmotivated and lazy lately. I haven't made a full Warriors video in ages.

www.Youtube.com has been very negative to me lately. They already deleted first account "FiveTenEntertainment". And then I start a new account (FiveTenEnt), end up putting a lot of time and effort into videos that got a lot of rotation on the site... especially my Warriors videos, a lot of them were being watched last season since the Warriors were making a lot of buzz in the regular season, and then the team went crazy in the playoffs as well. I guess people realized how wonderful Golden State is and decided to search Warriors videos on Youtube and came across a lot of the ones that I made.

But yeah, that summer got me a lot of subscribers on Youtube thanks to the Warriors amazing playoff run that resulted in people wanting more highlights. I woke up one morning, tried to log in to my Youtube account and got a message that my account got deleted. =(

Ever since then I never felt like doing videos anymore since Youtube is always trying to knock the e-hustle, haha. But yeah, sorry for this emo sob story i'm just hella bored right now.

When I think about it, it's crazy how the Warriors evolved on Youtube. When I made my first account in 2006, I remember there were only about 14 or so Warriors videos on Youtube. It wasn't that hard to watch every Warrior video there was on Youtube, there was so few of them. And NOW, the team is on a whole nother level, you'll find HUNDREDS of Warriors highlights both good and bad all over Youtube.

So yeah, like I said, sorry for this long irrelevant comment. lol. I'm just bored and since the Derek Fisher conversation is calming down I decided to make one last random post for the diary. mmkay bye.

 

by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 26, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about try hosting on veoh.com or other ..
vid share sites.  I know if you put out a link as a diary here, a lot of us would go watch it.  I was just watching your Boom-Rich backcourt vid and man the music and highlights just fit so well.  Seriously though, keep up the good work.

by ThermoElectro on Mar 27, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

this guy sums it up well
http://www.contracostatimes.com/warriors/ci_8701473

silence = approval.  shame on the NBA, shame on Delaney, and shame on Fisher the big phoney.  I'm not sure why, but this one has been tough for me to let go of -- I'm still pissed off about it.

by centerre on Mar 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

What bugs me is that ...
the ref didn't just throw the game, he literally stopped the game from finishing.  It's like watching this brilliant movie with drama, action and suspense, and it builds up towards the final climactic showdown and all of a sudden the screen cuts to black, leaving the audience largely unsatisfied.

by ThermoElectro on Mar 26, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

u mean
like in no country for old men? (great movie still tho)

by AJC3317 on Mar 26, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

A better analygy would be The Sopranos
The ended the Soprano's with lots of drama followed by a black screen.  Then there are all these rumors of a potential movie in the works.  They ended the GSW/LAL game with lots of drama followed by a phantom foul, now there are rumors of a playoff series between GSW and LAL.
"Much Props to you Dubs in Boston That was dope. Loved the outro. that was hilarious. LOL. Peace." -ROMESdavidWOOD37

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 28, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

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