Article about the Flopping Fish in Oakland.
I'm not sure if this deserves a diary, but some people might want to read it.
If you missed Monday night's Warriors/Lakers game, it was an unfortunate ending to a great NBA game. With few seconds left in OT, the Warriors had the ball and Monta Ellis was called for a foul for "running over" Derek Fisher. Replays showed that Fisher clearly pulled him down, costing the Warriors a chance to tie or win the game.No one is disputing that it was a blown call. Calls get missed all the time.
My biggest problem with it is that the refs are trained to learn the players and their reputations. Given that, and the fact that Fisher is the biggest flopper in the NBA, how does he get the benefit of the doubt on anything, let alone a game-deciding play?
Fisher is a great guy off the court, a class act. But on the court he's a fraud. After that call he remained sprawled on the ground and "played hurt." That's because even he felt bad, saying after the game that it should have been a no-call.
Yeah right Fish, you were hoping for that exact call. That's how you play the game. That's how you've always played the game.
Remember in last year's playoffs when Fisher was with Utah and Baron gave him that little elbow to the head and Fish fell and played hurt for about three minutes? Well I'm beginning to think he was faking that too. (When Baron was asked what he told Fisher after that, he jokingly said "I told him stop flopping and making me look bad.")
The NBA can put an end to this from floppers like Fisher.
They made an effort to rid the league of so many bad charging calls (a stat in which Fisher always led the league every year). The refs are calling blocking fouls when the play can go either way, and it has discouraged players from trying to take charges. Great move by the league.
If you want to discourage players like Fisher from doing what he did last night, you NEVER give him the benefit of the doubt on close calls until he stops flopping. Trust me, a few months of that and this nonsense will end.
http://warriors.realgm.com/articles/150/20080325/fisher_the_fraud/
In my opinion, that call was flat out disgusting. I don't care if I sound like a whiny Warriors fan or whatever. I just can't believe that I actually spent almost 3 hours for that game... up until the last seconds of the game, the battle was amazing, the atmosphere was that of a playoff game showcasing Pacific Division action, Baron vs. Kobe and the fast paced action between athletic players going neck and neck, the crowd going wild, the intensity that was building up towards the end of regulation made my heart go crazy. The Warriors went on a stunning 10-1 run to send the game to overtime.
All of those moments and emotions throughout the game had compiled together to create big momentum for a huge climax.
What did it ALL lead to?? It led to a referee, who had a bad angle on the last play, making the big call to DECIDE the game... ensuring the Lakers a victory.
So we sat in front of our TV's for 2 and a half hours, screaming and going wild, just to end up seeing a damn referee decide the game. That call KILLED everything that the game was building up for. Even if he hadn't blown the whistle and the Warriors were to miss the shot, we wouldn't have gone crazy since a missed shot would have been the Warriors losing the game, not a ref. Instead, it was a damn whistle that gave the Lakers a victory, NOT a heartbreaking Kobe gamewinner, but a damn whistle. We play hard just to have some ref make everything that the Warriors did irrelevant. Although you COULD say that Fisher was clutch that game... I can't think of any other player that could come up with a clutch flop to clinch a guaranteed win.
Ahh, hopefully we kill the Trailblazers on national TV this Thursday. Hopefully that makes me forget about this controversy. Although I still remember that one game we had against the Wizards last year. haha.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Sorry my bad for posting a diary about something that happened yesterday. I didn't know people here only like diaries about events that happen on the current day it's being posted on. I'll try harder next time. Again, my apologies.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 25, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ok
that or next time try posting something like this in the 4 other places where the discussion about fisher is going on in :)
ummmmm
But yeah, like I said to start the diary.
"I'm not sure if this deserves a diary, but some people might want to read it."
It's a diary for an article I came across. Now that I think about it, the article probably doesn't deserve a diary since the author isn't some big name sportwriter or whatever. So yeah, my bad. I didn't notice that "Derek Fisher Rule" diary either. =[
by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 25, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Five Ten Entertainment
Stuck in the parking lot for an hour... freeway closures or merged lanes on the 880/80 interchange... 2 left lanes closed in Vallejo and coming home at 1am! ...and we lost! (lol)
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
haha thanks man.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 26, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I WISH...
I'll be honest, I think the Warriors flop(I consider trying to take a charge) a LOT, and yesterday was no different. There was the play where Azubuike was blatantly obvious trying to take the charge by moving his left shoulder into the player...and then there was a charge on Kobe where you could clearly see Al moving his body INTO Kobe. That should have been a foul on Al if anything.
Charges...please...just...be gone! They ruin the game...I wish guys just tried to play DEFENSE. People in the playground don't do it...the NBA stars shouldn't be doing it...
No need to apologize Five Ten Ent.
Go Warriors 2008 NBA CHAMPS still.
-chill.
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 25, 2008 10:56 PM PDT reply actions
I miss your awesome vids...
I think in retrospect
But think if Baron or Jackson would have nailed a three pointer to get the win. Barring the Dallas wins last year, that would have been the Warrior's biggest sweep in over five years. We would be watching replays of it for years to come every time the Warriors played the Lakers or needed a three pointer to win.
Also, if the Warriors had not beaten the Trailblazers in that last game of the season last year, that faulty technical in the game against the wizards would have kept the Warriors from making history.
It just seems that with Baron and Stephen Jackson and their respective pasts, the Warriors never get the benefit of the doubt. The Houston game was a prime example of that. Hell, I'm surprised how well the team and Nelly takes it, because I know that I'm either at home or in the stands yelling myself. They are a completely different team emotionally; they have grown. I know that I am not the only one to think that calls are still biased against them. The have earned the right to be acknowledged by the refs as an elite team, who would not throw away a chance at beating their rivals after pouring out their hearts for 53 minutes on a chance to push Fisher to the ground
P.S. the challenge call idea is great for the last two minutes of the game and would potentially minimize bad calls in very little extra time.
this has always been my thought, exactly...
if you're a chump, you're a chump.
you can't actually be a really great guy who happens to take advantage of the dark gray corners of the rules at work to deceive and cheat your competition.
by 321 IN n OUT on Mar 26, 2008 9:11 AM PDT reply actions
Flopping
BUT
the fact that Fisher took this flop to another level by lying down on the court for like 3 minutes "in pain" is unbelievably ridiculous. THAT is what infuriates me, and should infuriate you too. What a pussy. A complete joke. Based on this mere act, it really is like he cheated. He deceived Delaney. And unfortunately it cost us a shot to tie/win the game. Dreadful.
Pray for the guy
by B Randon on Mar 26, 2008 9:28 AM PDT reply actions
What was ...
I don't like
Pray for the guy
by B Randon on Mar 26, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions
FIve Ten...
Yeah
www.Youtube.com has been very negative to me lately. They already deleted first account "FiveTenEntertainment". And then I start a new account (FiveTenEnt), end up putting a lot of time and effort into videos that got a lot of rotation on the site... especially my Warriors videos, a lot of them were being watched last season since the Warriors were making a lot of buzz in the regular season, and then the team went crazy in the playoffs as well. I guess people realized how wonderful Golden State is and decided to search Warriors videos on Youtube and came across a lot of the ones that I made.
But yeah, that summer got me a lot of subscribers on Youtube thanks to the Warriors amazing playoff run that resulted in people wanting more highlights. I woke up one morning, tried to log in to my Youtube account and got a message that my account got deleted. =(
Ever since then I never felt like doing videos anymore since Youtube is always trying to knock the e-hustle, haha. But yeah, sorry for this emo sob story i'm just hella bored right now.
When I think about it, it's crazy how the Warriors evolved on Youtube. When I made my first account in 2006, I remember there were only about 14 or so Warriors videos on Youtube. It wasn't that hard to watch every Warrior video there was on Youtube, there was so few of them. And NOW, the team is on a whole nother level, you'll find HUNDREDS of Warriors highlights both good and bad all over Youtube.
So yeah, like I said, sorry for this long irrelevant comment. lol. I'm just bored and since the Derek Fisher conversation is calming down I decided to make one last random post for the diary. mmkay bye.
by Five Ten Entertainment on Mar 26, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
How about try hosting on veoh.com or other ..
by ThermoElectro on Mar 27, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
this guy sums it up well
silence = approval. shame on the NBA, shame on Delaney, and shame on Fisher the big phoney. I'm not sure why, but this one has been tough for me to let go of -- I'm still pissed off about it.
What bugs me is that ...
by ThermoElectro on Mar 26, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
u mean
A better analygy would be The Sopranos
by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 28, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions

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