The Warriors should draft Kevin Love with their first pick

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 3, 2008 5:19 PM PST

Here's my argument -

our 1-3 is solidified for years. baron monta jax.

power forward is an interesting spot. harrington is good, great off the bench. brandan wright could be great. not great yet.

center. most teams would like to upgrade at center. the dubs are in a weird situation. we have a good young center. great right? well, he's a free agent after this year. if we can sign him for relatively cheap, let's sign him up! but if other teams regard him as highly as you guys on this blog do (doubt that, look at how he did in free agency last year. he hasn't proven anything this year that he didn't prove last year).

second, i say wright makes his abilities redundant in the long term. biedrins, for his position, is undersized, has a very limited offensive game, and low ceiling. he's about as good as he'll be. if anyone disagrees, explain where he'll improve. be substantive.

so here's why we should draft kevin love.

first of all, i go to ucla. i watch him play all the time. i've met the guy.

i'm aware he would be an undersized center in the nba. he's 6'10 260, and he's 18. he would have trouble elevating, slow footspeed. i get all that.

here's what he can do. he can score inside. he has post moves. he can dunk. he can set screens, he executes both the pick and roll and the pick and pop, he can shoot threes, he's the best passing big man to come out in a long time. high basketball iq.

while he may have a low ceiling as well, his game fits the dubs perefectly. he basically does what nelson wanted webber to do, but very well, as opposed to not so well.

with a front court of b wright and love, you have on the one had a super athletic, fast, long, slender, power forward that can create his own shot around the hoop. then, you have a bigger guy in love at the 5 that can block out, push people around, score A LOT, stretch defenses with his shot. he's webber current roll on the team, but younger and good. you don't need him to run the floor. are you guys familiar with his outlet passes? they're uncanny. he'd hit b wright and ellis all day. he's be the second best passer on the team behind davis.

i know what you're gonna say. too short, not athletic enough. But wright is. they compliment each other perfectly. then you factor in harrington off the bench, maybe even biedrins if we keep him.

then we could go harrington/biedrins or wright/love in the front court.

not only do i think this is a great idea, i think it's a much more likely scenario than you guys think in terms of this year's draft.

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agreed

i posted something similar to this about a month ago. I agree with what you are saying. I dont see him as a superstar or anything, but worst case scenario he can be a very serviceable big off the bench.

by Nellieball on Mar 3, 2008 5:24 PM PST reply actions

hahaha

i remember we had this conversation last time as well.

To the OP. I really liked this post, thought you didn't exaggerate. I can't see Love being anything that a role playing starter or top reserve similar to a Sean May type player. I'd like to see Love in the Bay. I don't see him falling to us, but if it takes a trade for a minor player of our, then I wouldn't fuss too much.

I was thinking about this and came up with a crazy scenario.

Say Minnesota totally sucks more than Miami and ends up with the #1. Top player is Beasley hands down IMO. However they already have young pieces at the 3-4 with Brewer and Al Jefferson. What they don't have is a legit Center.

Warriors S/T AB + 08, 10 1st round picks for

Antoine Walker (who we'd buyout) + the rights to whomever we tell Minnesota to pick for us....Michael Beasley.

I would then look to use that TPE of ours and try and pry Marcus Camby away from Denver. They are way over cap and may be desperate to unload contracts if they fail to make the playoffs. This move would have to be made first, and the Minny deal would have to be agreed to in principle.

Our lineup after the trades:
Baron
Monta
Beasley
Wright
Camby

We can then bring Jack and Al off the bench and have one of the best benches in the league. Swap Jack in and out of the starting lineup for B'Easy.

Minny may do this, but maybe they feel DeAndre Jordan is too intriguing to pass on. Although he isn't worth a number 1 pick, Minny may look to trade down.

I think about the draft too much.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 3, 2008 6:28 PM PST up reply actions

You really think we could get Beasley?

that would be sick.

by belilaugh on Mar 3, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions

so tight

but i'd start jax over wright, put beasley at the four, and trade wright. beasley is such a beast. he'd be the perfect four for us.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 3, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions

thats ridiculous

denver is gonna give us camby for nothing but the tpe??!!! no way. and why wouldnt minnesota draft beasley, put him at the 4 and move jefferson to center? he's more than capable, and a beasley/jefferson duo would be disgusting to match up with. both trades would/could never happen. if minny did want to trade the pick they could get more.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 3, 2008 11:02 PM PST up reply actions

You could/probably be right.

I don't think my trade scenario would have even a .01% chance of happening but they're moves i'm down with seeing. I explained my reasoning behind each deal as well.

Denver is way over tax. If they don't make the playoffs, they could look to move contracts. Nobody wants K-Mart's contract, Nene is too risky for other teams, and then they also have AI and Melo's contracts. The odd man out could be Camby, at age 34. He's still a beast defensively, holds value, and has a decent contract. All ++ for the Warriors, but it depends on what Denver wants to do. Last summer there were rumors of Denver gauging interest in Camby league wide.
In a Hoopshype article i happened to read that if the Wolves got the #1 overall pick, that they would pick for need, which in this case is most glaringly the Center position. Beasley WOULD form an awesome piece for Minnesota. But he plays the same position as Al Jefferson. Al at C isn't working this year, as indicated by their record, because he is a power forward. They need a rebounding and defensive force at the 5. This would take the burden off Al on the defensive end. Maybe you're also undervaluing what Biedrins is doing as a 21-22 year old. He's already a double-double machine, and is a consistent, relatively proven NBA vet. The same cannot be said about the top Center projects coming out this year in DeAndre Jordan or Roy Hibbert. What other Center on the market can be offered to minnesota that is a better option than AB?

To me, this would be an incredible offseason.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 1:49 AM PST up reply actions

i dont think

we'd land camby for almost nothing. seems like minny would be better off trading down a spot or two, getting a center prospect in the trade, and drafting rose or gordon to play pg/sg next to foye. beasley/jefferson would be a tough matchup for any team no matter who they have at center so i think minnesota goes ahead and drafts him regardless. i'd love the moves but dont see it happening. i actually came up with a deadline deal on here earlier this year that woulda had biedrins and kidd going to denver with picks and kleiza to the nets and camby to the warriors. i agree with you he would be just about perfect here, but i dont know how we could pull it off and still land a bulkier backup pf/c. denver would probably love to dump kenyon martin on us for nothing more than the tpe, and i wouldnt be completely opposed to the idea of a froncourt rotation of kenyon/beans/wright/harrington though it would be incredibly expensive. kenyon is a solid defender and rebounder and though he's lost a step, was the same sort of player i think we all envision wright becoming.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions

thanks for the reply/discussion

I agree, that most likely, if Minny didn't want Beasley, and wanted to fill the Center position, that they should/would trade down a couple spots and get their man + another young player or future pick(s).

I agree that Minny probably will go with the BPA approach when it comes down to it. I can see them drafting Rose if they don't get the top pick. I can't see them drafting Gordon/Bayless with them still having Foye around.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions

don't forget

No one saw the Lakers getting Gasol for nothing.

No one saw Shaq being dealt out West with his injuries/contract.

They said, they said, they said.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 12:42 PM PST up reply actions

thats true

i guess ill jump on the bandwagon and hope for camby/beasley then. but if we had already landed camby and could land the number 1 overall for andris and our own pick, wouldnt you be tempted to draft rose as the heir to baron? rose/monta with wright down low for the next 10 years would be pretty nice. not that beasley/wright with monta outside wouldnt be....

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions

i see

I like Rose, a lot actually. But i don't see him being the next Chris Paul, more like a team oriented AI. He can penetrate at an elite level already with that combination of quickness and handles. whoo.

I'm actually for re-signing Baron. I keep saying the magic number should be a 2 year extension at $30 MM. That's more than any other PG would get excluding the Chris Paul extension next year or so.

I'd also like to draft legit outside shooters, since that's another thing this team lacks. I looked into some of the top 3pt% shooters in the NCAA and settled with Brandon Rush, Courtney lee, Shan Foster among others that may fall in the second round.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions

i definitely

want baron back. i meant rose as a backup to him for a year or two. rush would be a nice shooter off the bench and a great 2nd round pick, but would it mean essentially giving up on belinelli? he hasnt shown much, maybe he'd have a little trade value if they could market him as a young brent barry?

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 11:19 PM PST up reply actions

not really

a nelly led club never have enough wing players. In fact an all swing man squad would be don nelson's wet dream, IMO, the way likes to disguise them as centers. Besides more competition for the roles wouldn't exactly be a bad thing.

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by Tim N Chris Burger on Mar 4, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions

I see Marco

as a good Streaky shooter.

I'm looking for guys that can come in and knock down the outside shot with consistency ala Brent Barry, Robert Horry, Steve Kerr like rates.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 5, 2008 2:15 AM PST up reply actions

i dont see

Minnesota giving up the right to draft beasley for that little. i love andris, but him + 2 picks hopefully in the 20s just doesn't seem to be enough to acquire him.

i hope i am wrong, i just dont see it happening.

by Nellieball on Mar 4, 2008 2:54 PM PST up reply actions

Much Love

I thoroughly enjoy watching Love from the Den, as well... 100% agree that he would make us even more exciting.

Reppin the Bay at UCLA

by Blitz6k on Mar 3, 2008 5:28 PM PST reply actions

This is better...

at least you're not bashing AB anymore. It's ok to be into a player (and it's obvious you have a bit of a man crush on Love) but your last post was about how beans was bad. I can't get on board with that.

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by williedillssf on Mar 3, 2008 5:38 PM PST reply actions

ASDF

did someone say danny fortson??

by rAybOund18 on Mar 3, 2008 5:38 PM PST reply actions

jdfbhesu

yeah, but with post moves, passing, high basketball iq, a good attitude, shooting touch.....

by Nellieball on Mar 3, 2008 7:14 PM PST up reply actions

I stated before

I'd still rather take:

Blake Griffin
Brook Lopez
Donte Greene

over KLove.

Griffin is a beast in the Boozer mold. Little defense but has post moves and is a tenacious rebounder.

Lopez can flat out ball. I didn't think much of him last year but he's looking like a lottery pick. Has a higher upside than Love.

Donte Greene is a natural sf with a PF's height. Think Rashard Lewis in college. I'd love him to be groomed as Jax' replacement when the time comes.

Jason Thompson may be an interesting pick. He has good size, shooting touch and a solid rebound rate.

Other names to keep an eye on: Mareese Speights, JaVale McGee, Darrell Arthur.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions

lopez

would fit well i think. with him and wright thats a lot of athleticism and length.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions

Plus

He's a legit 7ft and has a jumpshot.

Although he's not much of a defender and will probably be average-below average in the NBA as a rebounder. But of all the bigs coming out (minus Beasley) he's arguably the most NBA ready.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions

well

he has some shot-blocking ability, and wright has showed some very good shot-blocking ability too. in their up-tempo system they probably arent going to get guys who can muscle up with boozer and duncan unless they find the second coming of dwight howard, so the ability to protect the rim at least is critical. biedrins can, wright can, lopez probably will be able to. i'd be pumped up if they came out of the draft with lopez in the first round and rush in the 2nd.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions

if we cant trade up

ucla's collison would be a great backup to baron and could take over in a couple years. we'd have the quickest backcourt in the league and collison is a good outside shooter already. he'd be perfect in this system.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 5, 2008 12:46 AM PST up reply actions

I don't see Lopez

shot blocking ability translating to the NBA. His brother Robin is better in that regard.

He's an intense player however, good hustle, fundamentals, midrange game. I think he would compliment Wright fairly well.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 5, 2008 2:21 AM PST up reply actions

free agent

This will be the first year AB will be a free agent. Last year he was asking for an extension. That is why there wasn't any other offers. This summer will be way different, other teams will be giving a look. I don't watch college ball to say anything good or bad about Love.

by Psion on Mar 3, 2008 5:48 PM PST reply actions

IF Love is that Good ...

... he will not be available where the Dubs will be drafting.

by soem on Mar 3, 2008 5:59 PM PST reply actions

exactly!

Love is a friggen freshman and IMHO the closest thing to the next coming of Larry Bird. He will be long gone before the Warriors draft if he comes out in this year's draft.

CWebb is undoubtedly the answer but I forgot the question.

by commish on Mar 3, 2008 6:12 PM PST up reply actions

You are joking right?

I mean, he may be good (I personally dont think so), but I will be very happy if he proves me wrong. I like seeing people succeed, but Larry Bird? Come on...

If you were being sarcastic about that comment, then completely disregard this comment

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by sloth11 on Mar 3, 2008 7:15 PM PST up reply actions

i was kidding but

if he were that good, would he be around 14-18 this year? Not.

CWebb is undoubtedly the answer but I forgot the question.

by commish on Mar 3, 2008 8:00 PM PST up reply actions

asdf

have you seen either love or bird ever play? they are nothing alike.

by Nellieball on Mar 3, 2008 7:15 PM PST up reply actions

you had me at

"he can score inside. he has post moves. he can dunk. he can set screens"

OMG I WANT HIM NAO

by saintfloppy on Mar 3, 2008 6:04 PM PST reply actions

I like Love

but he won't be starting in the NBA anytime soon unless he is on a bad or injured team. He does not match up well with starters in the nba. Plus he has had trouble anytime he has gone against an athletic big which, I'm sorry to bring up to you, the NBA is full of. If we get rid of Biedrins for him, Beans would end up dominating him.

His outlet passing is what makes him so good and what makes me want to have him on my team, especially with Monta. I wouldn't mind a lineup like this:

PG: Monta
SG: Belinelli
SF: Wright
PF: Love
C: Biedrins

Lots of scoring, good passing, athleticism, some strength, length (most important thing in the nba imo, more than strength), and of course protection of the lane.

by yehyeh82 on Mar 3, 2008 6:15 PM PST reply actions

i like it, but...

we're gonna have jax till 2011 (i think). and i still like baron.

with your lineup, we have no three point shooter on the floor. (unless you count bellinelli. he's gotta prove something though.)

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 3, 2008 6:23 PM PST up reply actions

Jack and Harrington

Are both signed through 2009/10 -- two more years beyond this one. BWright will probably be better than Harrington by next year (if he isn't already); and Jackson will turn 33 in 2011. It's hard to imagine they'll be a big part of our future after 2010, unless we can re-sign them on the cheap, as vet role players.

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 3, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions

iggy

I respectively disagree with the logic. You can never have too much of athletic young big man who can rebound, finish in the paint and block shots. They don't make each other redundant, they make our frontline badass. Second, wright is actually quite different from biedrins, so I think they would complement each other even if what you said was true. Wright is showing signs of having a decent midrange shot and slashing ability for a big man. Biedrins at the low block and wright at the low post seems pretty formidable and complementary to me. Kevin Love is simply too slow. He is not athletic enough, much of what he does that is effective now is going to be ineffictive in the nba. He does some things that could help our team, but the good outweighs the bad. I think a better fit for our team would be a big point guard, I think monta ellis is best off at the 2 position, if we could have somebody like kyle weaver to play next to him, that would relieve monta of a lot of pressure. Either that, or we draft a good feisty power forward. Think dj white. Someone to toughen up our interior.

by bigbenny11 on Mar 3, 2008 6:50 PM PST reply actions

asdf

bigbenny

i'm going to respectively disagree with your logic.

i think wright and ab, playing together, won't rebound that well. ab already has anough trouble without a strong guy helping him out (that was supposed to be harrington). wright is even thinner. i just see them getting pushed around down low. bynum has outplayed biedrins this season when they've matched up. wright couldn't match up with gasol, odom, he'd get pushed. i still think you need someone a bit stronger to compliment them. biedrins needs a strong guy. wright needs a strong guy. that's what love is.

and i do think he'll be very effective in the nba.

and for what it's worth, bill simmons agrees with me.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 3, 2008 7:05 PM PST up reply actions

Brandan Wright

In terms of rebound rate, Wright's in the top 20 of the NBA at 15.4 boards per 48 minutes. Sure he's only played in 22 games for us, so it is indeed a small sample size. However, there's no evidence to suggest that he can't or won't be a good rebounder in the NBA.

I've been questioning Biedrins' worth for a long long time now as well. I've come to the conclusion that, although he's not the post-defending solution to the likes of the Boozers Duncans and Amares of the West, there's not really an available big out there that would be an upgrade over Biedrins. If anything, I'm in favor of paying him more salary in a shorter term deal ($36mil/3yrs for example) rather than ($50/5). Same with Monta, $24mil/3yrs sounds good to me. That way, if they don't end up living up to their potential, we'd be able to get out of their contracts in their 3rd contract year by trading them away as large valuable expiring contracts. And if they do end up exceeding expectations, then we'll pay them accordingly.

I go to UCLA so I see Kevin Love play as well. Honestly, he should just stay in college as long as possible. His game and body are perfect for the college game, he can just out-muscle all those small college kids in the paint all day long. Unfortunately, he's not going to be anything close to a star in the NBA. The length and strength of NBA centers is just going to be too much for Kevin Love to handle. His passing, versatility, and high basketball IQ will keep him in the league; but he's not going to be anything special. And if he somehow does get some height on his vertical, grow longer arms, and convert his fat into muscle; then he wouldn't fall deep enough in the draft for the Warriors to select him anyway.

by jlagace on Mar 3, 2008 7:31 PM PST up reply actions

i'll say this

love would put up over 20 points in a game on biedrins RIGHT NOW.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 3, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions

no he wouldnt

just because u jock kevin love cuz he goes to UCLgAy wit you doesnt mean hes good.

by 3Kings650 on Mar 3, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions

naw

biedrins is twice the athlete. and love couldnt muscle up biedrins like boozer does.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions

youre trippin

by ilubthedubs on Mar 5, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions

3/$24 for Monta?

You're joking, right? I'll be floored if we land a deal like that. I'd sign Monta at $12 mil a year for 7 years and not loose a minute of sleep. The only two things really lacking from his game are the two things that players develop in this league with time: defense and the 3-pt. His steals show he has an eye for defense. His top of the key J is only a couple feet from being a 3.

Add those in and he probably makes top 3 PG in the West. He's already shown that he has a good passing game. Truth be told, I think the main reason he doesn't get even more assists per game is that it is simply a better decision for him to just take the shot. Once he establishes himself as a star and stats getting double-teamed more often, I think people will appreciate his ability to run the floor and find open players.

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by Talimon on Mar 4, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions

agreed

i wasnt a huge monta fan at this time last year, but he's convinced me we need to lock him up. he is the future of this team. i'd say he needs to work on 3 facets to become a top 2 or 3 pg though, the point shot and d like you said, but also needs to become a little better distributor. if he adds 3 pt range he'll be as good as iverson in his prime. add d to that and he's a smaller kobe. add a better knack for distributing and youve got a player more dominant than we've had in a long time. he's young, and im sure he can do it.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions

Actualy quite the opposite IMO

Regarding Love staying in college.

Perhaps in a basketball standpoint he should stay.

But in terms of money, he's much more wiser to leave after this season.

My example: Tyler Hansbrough. In 05', his Frosh year IIRC, he was a top 5 pick on a lot of draft boards...flash forward three years and now he's lost out on millions of dollars being projected somewhere in the mid-to-late first round.

Now i know that Love is arguably the better player already, but it really is a gamble for guys to stay in college when they're stock is the highest it's going to ever be at.

-----------------------------------------------

I like the idea of signing Beans to a shorter contract.

Does your reasoning have anything to do with AB's lack of an advanced offensive game.

In the case of Chris Kaman and his 5 yr/50+MM contract, he showed that he had an offensive game and was an average/below average rebounder/defender.

AB on the other hand is an average offensive player but a Plus rebounder and above average defender. SO, how much money is offense worth?

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions

asdf

wright could match up much better with gasol and odom than love ever would. Also, love would get man-handled in the paint. He's like 6' 8" with no hops.

by BD4mvp on Mar 3, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions

sorry

i meant men, not man, and i meant high post, not low block for wright

by bigbenny11 on Mar 3, 2008 6:54 PM PST reply actions

Love Will Go in the Top 3

Everyone in the Country is on Love's jock strap right now. He's good, but so was Charokee Parks, Christian Laettner and Michael Oliwakandi. Look how good they were. Anyway, Love will get drafted in the top 3 due to the fact he is solid and UCLA will go back to its 3rd straight NCAA Final Four. I love UCLA and have some good ties their, but Love will never ever ever be on the Dubs unless:

We trade for him.

We take a dump and land the #1-3 lottery pick in the draft a la Portland.

Monkey's Fly Out of My B*tt.

Love=No 2008 NBA Playoffs...

by gabezgsw on Mar 3, 2008 7:00 PM PST reply actions

Top 3

Beasley
Rose
Bayless/Gordon/Jordan/Lopez
Mayo

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 1:51 AM PST up reply actions

yea

no way love goes top 3. he'd be right there with morrison as one of the least athletic guys ever taken in the top 5.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions

theres no way he goes top 3.

NO WAY

by ilubthedubs on Mar 5, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions

that's not true

most mock draft have him going between 13 and 20.

and we're gonna draft around 20.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 3, 2008 7:13 PM PST reply actions

no

wright is 20, and biedrins is 21, they are going to naturally fill out, and they will also gain muscle through weight training. Biedrins is not getting punished because he doesn't have a strong teammate in the post with him. It's just that he's playing with someone else who usually just isn't that good of a rebounder! Body width is not the only measurement for rebounding abilities. Wright with his long arms and activity, would by default take pressure off of biedrins and help him out. Between the two of them our rebounding would be significantly upgraded. Consider that Wright has been getting plus 5 rebounds in the first quarter alone when he plays.

by bigbenny11 on Mar 3, 2008 7:22 PM PST reply actions

Also

A quick high activity defense can cause havoc for opposing big man, ESPECIALLY those who rely more on strength rather than quickness. Consider how yao ming struggles against harrington. We would create a high turnover rate amongst traditional heavyset bigman because we could take advantage of the quickness we have in our two young big man with rapid double teams and fronting. Quickness can definitely negate strength. Especially nowadays with the rules in the nba, if you can get to your spot before your opposition and keep your feet planted, then guess what? it's a foul and the ball is going the other way.

by bigbenny11 on Mar 3, 2008 7:26 PM PST reply actions

i agree with bigbenny11

i dont think love is athletic enough to run with the warriors, unless we change our style of play. yes love is a great outlet passer, but i just dont see him being dominant in the nba.

by lowchi on Mar 3, 2008 7:30 PM PST reply actions

man,

you should've told us that you went to UCLA and met the dude the first time. that explains everything.

by kinetic on Mar 3, 2008 7:33 PM PST reply actions

We Will See

When the hype is all done and the UCLA Bruins are in the Final Four, Kevin Loves stock will climb. He's in SI right now, was on the cover of SI's College Pre Season report and as things settle, Love will be a top 3 pick. Going to the Final Four and beating the rest of the best will propell Love to the top. It will show that with all the flash and sizzle one can have, true basketball skills prevail and Love has most of them. Yeah he can't jump, yeah he ain't fast, but his IQ is off the charts. When was the last time you saw an 18 year old pump fake and pull off an up and under move with perfection? I think its been 10 years since I saw someone do that. When's the last time we saw a kid throw outlet passes like that? Its been for ever. Its refreshing to see that brains can out play the most physically gifted.

Basically, Love will rise above the rest when it matters-the NCAA Final Four Tourny. We will see where Kansas State, Stanford and Georgetown will be. All watching the Bruins going to their 3rd straight Final Four.

Love=No 2008 Playoffs for the Dubs.

by gabezgsw on Mar 3, 2008 7:33 PM PST reply actions

ok

why did u make the same diary twice? it doesn't make any more sense the second time around

by AJC3317 on Mar 3, 2008 7:48 PM PST reply actions

asdf

Wow all this man crushing on Love and no one said anything about Ryan Anderson outta Cal. This kid is averaging 20 and 10, and can shoot the 3. He's not as hefty as Love, but I can see him working out for the dubs. At this point he's slated to go between 20-30.

by jurras1c5 on Mar 3, 2008 8:47 PM PST reply actions

i had

the same exact thought. i think he'd be a way better fit for us. i think he's longer, he's definitely more athletic, and he shoots even better. i like the idea of landing anderson or even hardin late in round 1 or in the 2nd round.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions

UHHHH...

Does anyone here think that Kevin Love is just gonna suck in his rookie year if he decides to enter the draft?
IMO, he needs one more year of college ball, maybe a NCAA title, and he's gonna be something REALLY special in '09-'10.

I still think he's pretty raw, and needs to refine his game just one more year before entering the draft this year. Maybe lose some weight too...and work on his athleticism. He's just too overhyped right now.

Anyone agree?

SHOOT THE J! SHOOT IT!

by slipnslide on Mar 3, 2008 8:52 PM PST reply actions

no "LOVE"

i really dislike Kevin Love
he's really slow even for college,
and really seems to have no willpower

on a little less serious note

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just sign up as your gsom username or be anonomys
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by DoomBizzle on Mar 3, 2008 8:57 PM PST reply actions

let's call this what it is...

it's just a man-crush gone overboard. Yeah, Kevin Love is rocking it for UCLA, but very few people think he could be anything more than a backup center in the NBA.

so in short, giving up biedrins so the dubz can play some dude you got to meet and were just too awestruck to keep it to yourself, is just plain stupid.

Love could score 20 on beans now? Really? Think about that for a minute...remember, Beans plays in the NB-fing-A. He plays against Duncan, against Howard, against Yao, against Bynum, against the elite players out there. He may not be the best, but at least we know he's the real deal.

by kinetic on Mar 3, 2008 9:21 PM PST reply actions

yeah

in his last game, kevin "effin" garnett couldn't put 20 on beans w/ ample opportunity,you think k-love could do what kg couldn't do. People seem to always forget the cavernous ridge between the nba's & the college's talent pool. The college game doesn't always translate as cleanly. For every college star that grows into a pro star there's like 4 or 5 that disappoint.

"To my dear brother, Noompsy."

by Tim N Chris Burger on Mar 3, 2008 9:55 PM PST reply actions

AT LEAST 4 or 5

i would say thats the extremely low estimate to that number...

by 3Kings650 on Mar 3, 2008 10:04 PM PST up reply actions

One things for sure...

This year's Draft is gonna be deep, were gonna get lucky and get a quality player with our later pick.

Love will probally be taken just because team's will probablly see him as a safe pick, and plus he's only 18, he has great potential.

I've seen him play, and I must say this kid is a beast, he has a tremendous work ethic, and really loves and respect the game, he won't last past #15.

BTW, did you guys see the you tube when Kevin Love tears down the rim on a break-away dunk!!! That's power!( also cause he weighs like 300 pounds)

I'm actually in favor of another person, that would be a perfect fit, and a more realistic option with our pick.

I really like PATRICK PATTERSON, this guy is Sean Williams, but with a bigger frame, and more power. He's an athletic freak that loves to finish in the paint. you guys should check his Youtube, kid is a stud!!! He played with O.J Mayo when they won back-to back state championships

Here's a video of him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T65zYF6XF0

It's startling how so many people watch basketball, yet so few actually play it.

by 3 The Hard Way on Mar 3, 2008 10:26 PM PST reply actions

Try this one as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1tIoqzWH8I

"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali

by Dubs Wise on Mar 4, 2008 3:01 PM PST up reply actions

ugh

I hate to bash on a fellow Bruin..

but Kevin Love is going to be nothing more than an oversized, slower, stronger version Luke Walton in the NBA. There I said it. Basketball IQ and fundamentals alone can only take you so far in the NBA.

That being said, Kevin Love just needs to stay at UCLA and win four national championships in a row.

by jlagace on Mar 3, 2008 10:57 PM PST reply actions

yep

exactly. he reminds me of 32 year old chris webber with more post game, but slower feet.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 3, 2008 11:11 PM PST up reply actions

Sounds like a great role player off the bench...

And that's what Love will be. He will never be dominant. His best bet is to develop that Mark Madsen fire and become the smart energy guy off the bench for a championship contender. Let's draft him if he's there at #20 so we can immediately trade him to a slower team that can use him.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 4, 2008 11:49 AM PST up reply actions

Patric Patterson

That dude looks legit. He is averaging 16.4 points, 7.7 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks on 57.4% shooting for a Kentucky team that is 10-4 in the SEC (including a win over Tennessee).

When I look at the Warriors, I'm with most of you on keeping Baron in there with SJax and Monta. That covers 1-3 when youre talkin just starters. Then we have BWright, Harrington, and Beans manning the 4/5.

BWright - Long, slender PF who is young and could be a potential Good/Great player
Harrington - Veteran big with long range shooting abilities and great with mismatches ... Good player
Biedrins - Long lanky big who rebounds well and finishes excellent around the basket, sometimes overmatched down low ... Good player

I think what we really need is a big (7'0" plus) strong center who can block shots, can run, and be athletic and score around the hoop. Patterson unfortunately is 6'8" and though I think he could help us, I would almost be more inclined with a larger guy. Brook Lopez and DeAndre Jordan are really the only two guys who fit that bill in this draft (very arguable), so I would say unless we can trade down, we should consider not resigning Biedrins.

I love Biedrins and have seen him win us games with his clutch rebounds and putbacks. But I don't see Biedrins ever becoming more than anything he already is due to pure size. He will never improve defensively on bigs like Amare, Dwight, Boozer, etc. He moves well and rebounds well, but if Brandan Wright is anything close to what we expect of him, he will be able to do that as well. Harrington is a great player for the Warriors and I see him as an untradeable commodity, as he stretches the offense and opens holes for BDiddy and Monta. Cant get rid of him. We could have extra money by not resigning Beans, still have the $10 mill trade exception, and could go from there. We could move a player of his stature easily and gain defensively. I like the guy who was talking about getting Camby - that would be absolutely ridiculous.

That being said, how funny is it that we are 2.5 behind Phx and 1.5 behind Dallas ..... crazy to see the power sift in the West.

by BDiddyCity on Mar 3, 2008 11:05 PM PST reply actions

who...

the hell are you going to get to play center? and what are you talking about, moving Beans? He's gonna be a free agent.

and that camby thing was a joke. at least I hope it was.

by kinetic on Mar 3, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions

haha

"I think what we really need is a big (7'0" plus) strong center who can block shots, can run, and be athletic and score around the hoop."

yes.. us and everybody else in the western conference. Don't forget we tried big and burly mbenga.

by saintdee on Mar 4, 2008 12:19 AM PST up reply actions

Jason Thompson

NbaDraft.net has us taking this kid @ #20.

Currently plays for Rider University... Alright, don't dismiss too quickly because of the school. Check out this SI article and some video first

"Rider's Jason Thompson has grown into NBA prospect"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/kevin_armstrong/03/04/jason.thompson/index.html?eref=T 1

Video
http://www.jasonthompson1.com/video.html

If this kid could translate that kind of game to the NBA, oh what a lovely front-court we would have.

Might be a sleeper...

"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali

by Dubs Wise on Mar 4, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions

I seriously dont see

why Biedrins has to become much more than he is. This team is built for outside scoring. The frontcourt guys just need to rebound and finish, both of which are areas where Biedrins excels in. Sure he can't shut down the all-star bigs in the west, but who can? With Wright and AB patrolling the middle you get two incredibly athletic bigs who will be blocking shots all over while getting rebounds and throwing outlet passes and finishing at the other end, which is probably the best the Dubs can hope for if they want to keep a strong backcourt.

by Elcold on Mar 4, 2008 12:24 AM PST up reply actions

so

you think love is a better option at center for us than biedrins. thats ridiculous. love has some talent, but not anything that would fit in our system. seriously what can he do that an old chris webber cant. he's a good solid college player but i think your man crush stems from watching too many ucla games and not enough nba ball, or other college teams. biedrins has excellent hands, moves well, and rebounds very well. we dont need him to be any more than that if wright develops, and he's only 21 so saying he has reached his ceiling is also ridiculous.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 3, 2008 11:07 PM PST reply actions

come on son

i explained everything love can do in my post. say what you want about ab, but love/wright is a more complete front court than wright/biedrins

we don't have to get rid of him. go ahead, let's sign him for whatever it takes, if that's what you guys want. even so, i still think we should draft love if he's there. he'd start like webber does right now, and ab would come off the bench with harrington. or vice versa.

with wright you got a mini biedrins with longer arms and more offensive moves. with love you have a banger who can block out anybody in the west, stretch defenses with his shot (something ab can't do), his passing ability is uncanny, and he's a smart dude. imagine him grabbing a board, and the whole team streaking down the court. he's demonstrated time after time at ucla he's the best passing big man prospect to come out of college in decades.

he does webber's role on the team, a role nelson believes we need in order to compete in west, except he's much better and 18. son!

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 12:39 AM PST up reply actions

nobody...

agrees with you on this. you know?

I was just listening to Fitz on the radio earlier today, and he doesn't think Love will be anything more than a backup center in the league.

by kinetic on Mar 4, 2008 1:01 AM PST up reply actions

i could care less

what fitz has to say about the nba draft.

bill simmons agrees with me. i trust his word more than fitz's.

what does jim barnett think???

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 1:27 AM PST up reply actions

bill simmons

over fitz???? NO WAY, dude. bill simmons is entertaining and a good writer, but he's semi-retarded in most of his opinions.

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions

even if

all he amounts to is a back up center for us, he'd be money off the bench. that's worst case. besides, we're not drafting for starters this year anyway. unless we can land beasley. then he'd start at the four.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 1:32 AM PST up reply actions

Love

Nobody's saying Love is a horrible player. The big question mark is if Love can do the same things he does now in the NBA. There's a big difference between playing against a bunch of kids in college and playing against NBA talent. If Love can replicate what he's doing in college right now, then of course he'd be a better center than Biedrins in the NBA. But that's a huge uncertainty.

by jlagace on Mar 4, 2008 1:02 AM PST up reply actions

biedrins

is a double double machine at 21 years old. and he has great hands. most warrior fans know how long its been since we had a center this good......a looooong time. (rony seikaly and damp were NOT this good) i dont want to let him go just because some big slow kid in college has nice moves and is "smart." a lot of people thought todd fuller was a smart player with slow feet too. before you get all worked up, love has some serious moves, and i'm not saying he's gonna be fuller-esque. he just doesnt fit this team. but, if wright develops like we all hope, a young combo of wright and beans could be very very good in this system next year with al as a stud 6th man/matchup nightmare at 3 positions. it all hinges on wright's development, but with
pg baron
sg monta
sf jack
pf wright
c beans
6th man-harrington
barnes, buike, another quality center and a good backup pg and nellie for one more year i think thats a serious western contender

passes it to the man...and boom goes the dynamite!

by sam23 @ Golden State Of Mind on Mar 4, 2008 10:15 AM PST up reply actions

Warriors should not

to listen 13 years old kid what they gotta do

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Mar 4, 2008 1:23 AM PST reply actions

you

should check your grammar before you post.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 1:28 AM PST up reply actions

so what?

if i'll check my grammar -will it make you smarter?

BTW -english is just my 3rd language and i m not shy to make some mistakes

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Mar 4, 2008 1:37 AM PST up reply actions

oh my bad

didn't mean to hurt your confidence. i think you're doing great, you know, considering.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 1:41 AM PST up reply actions

thank you

for your "considering"

BTW possibility that you can hurt my confidence is equal 0

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Mar 4, 2008 1:52 AM PST up reply actions

That's the great thing about Americans, Trash

We like to give people crap for not learning English as a second or third language, when most of us -- our President, e.g. -- barely speak it as a first language...

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 4, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions

it's not abou americans man

that's about teenagers
-he is defending his ideas any possible way
i was the same @ his age
-this guy have a nice blog vs his dad

http://cohn.pressdemocrat.com/

-it explains his love to grammar

PS -yeah Rancho dudes speeches are the best lol

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Mar 4, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions

embarassing

ban?

"We're all corrupt bastards." - Don Nelson

by GameSix on Mar 4, 2008 2:50 PM PST up reply actions

Seriously dude?

Are you seriously insulting a guy who's using his third tongue? You're ridiculous. You're just insulting anybody who asserts an opinion that differs from your own. Go start another Kevin "Iggy's man crush" Love diary about how awesome he is.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 4, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions

man....

you're the one that should be taking a confidence hit. Nobody thinks your draft Kevin Love (and please let me be the one to tell him about it) campaign is a good idea. You're arguing against everyone and being a bitch about it.

by kinetic on Mar 4, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions

bill simmons on love

"I am, on the other hand, partial to rookies who played for winning programs, produced in college or do one thing exceedingly well (say, rebounding or long-range shooting). I wouldn't care if a prospect looked great in a workout; isn't a 30-game college season the only workout anyone needs to see? I wouldn't care if someone was two inches too short or 15 pounds too heavy, just that he was good. Kevin Love isn't even a lottery lock these days, but so what if he can't run or jump? He's a surreal cross between Wes Unseld and Bill Laimbeer. Why pass on him for some project who looks good posting up a chair?"

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 1:36 AM PST reply actions

man...

even your quote supporting Love is filled with reasons the warriors should NOT draft him. Bill Simmons can say whatever the hell he wants, and let's face it, he gets paid for being controversial. He is not a talent evaluator, and he's never going to be one.

by kinetic on Mar 4, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions

here's the link

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3267445

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 1:37 AM PST reply actions

Ryan Anderson

screw love, id rather have RYAN ANDERSON- better stroke and good range outside, slick inside moves too but he's definitely gotta get stonger..

played against him in high school too, hes dropped at least 30 lbs since then aka hes willing to work on his body...surprised the hell outa me the way he showed up at cal...go bears

by ElevationSensation on Mar 4, 2008 1:59 AM PST reply actions

im down for

ryan anderson too, averaging 21.5 pts/9.9 rebs a game in a tough pac 10 conference.

by lowchi on Mar 4, 2008 2:21 AM PST reply actions

lol

please listen to bill simmons. "so what if he can't run or jump", i'm sorry but he buried himself with that one. "So what if he can't run or jump", with the warriors he'd only be playing on the fastest team in the nba whose entire game is predicated upon how fast they run and how high they jump. Just drop the kevin love fascination please. But that patrick patterson guy looks pretty legit, he could be a warriorS killer, or a killer warrior, I hope we draft him I think he could help our team out. I'm not to sure about ryan anderson, (it's hard to imagine after playing in the same division as him in high school i'm talking about possibly drafting him on the warriors)is he athletic enough to run with the warriors? He won't be able to guard anybody in the nba, is he fluid enough to play small forward? can he rebound at all at the power forward position?

by bigbenny11 on Mar 4, 2008 7:28 AM PST reply actions

you're right

when have the warriors ever expressed interest in a guy that can't run or jump?

oh yeah, chris webber.

nelson had a hard on for that idea. you think he's gonna give up on it because webber's having trouble executing his role? please.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 8:23 AM PST up reply actions

Iggy = Kevin

Iggy,

Are you ACTUALLY, Kevin Love in Disguise, trying to generate buzz to be drafted above 20?
hmmm.

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by GreenLightJerky on Mar 4, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions

actually...

I think he's just in love with him, and is praying for the day that he can sniff his jock strap.

by kinetic on Mar 4, 2008 12:05 PM PST up reply actions

krmpcc

Love is a freshman

Has Love announced that he is foregoing the last three years of college and going into this years NBA draft? I don''t think so. Love's number one advisor at UCLA is John Wooden, do you think Wooden suggesting that Love go NBA at this time? Unlikely.

I predict that Love will go two more years in college and it wouldn't surprise me that he does the whole four years.

His dad played for the Lakers in the 1970s so he will get advice from him, but we all know that we never listen to our parents when we are young. LOL

OT, Love is related to four of the Beach Boys so get ready for surf music if he comes to the Warriors! Oracle could stand a change of pace with music anyway.

by Ace Fury on Mar 4, 2008 7:42 AM PST reply actions

i go to ucla

and i don't think love is going to stay past this year. why? because there's nothing he can prove in further years to improve his draft stock from what it is right now. his cieling athletically isn't much higher than it is right now. he's just a man child that's a brilliant basketball player and a leader.

you can disagree, but i bet you a nickel he leaves after this year.

by Iggy_Zohn on Mar 4, 2008 8:21 AM PST up reply actions

big slow white guys

Let's not forget about the last big and slow white who dominated in college, could do a few things exceedingly well (shoot and rebound). This guy also had questions about what his natural position was and what he would play in the league. He also was considered a potential top 10 but his stock dropped because of issues with his athleticism...

Who am I talking about? Why, Troy Murphy! Of Course... Now, if all you dub fans really want another Big Murph gettin' abused night in and night out by anyone with a shred of athletic ability, pass on Love... Because that is all Kevin Love is, the 2008 version of Troy Murphy

by SLOwarriors on Mar 4, 2008 8:57 AM PST reply actions

Let's

keep this convo going after Brook Lopez drops 30 and 15 on Love's tubby gut on Thursday.

Go Stanford!

by BALLINelli on Mar 4, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply actions

iggy

we have seen what webber can do for us so far, and it hasn't been pretty. If you're trying to justify drafting kevin love just because nelson has webber, well.. then it only hurts your cause because one webber is one webber too many on our team.

by bigbenny11 on Mar 4, 2008 11:12 AM PST reply actions

No

Kevin Love is undersized and not fast enough to run our offense, plus, his dad is a complete douche. Half of the things he said in that recent SI article about Oregon fans was fabricated, I was there.

by 25 on Mar 4, 2008 11:36 AM PST reply actions

Mmmm...

Can I have that jersey?

I think I just crossed into the "creepy old man" stage of life at the ripe old age of 26... sigh.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 4, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions

Take off your UCLA shades off...

Love is having one helluva freshman year but his game (as an unathletic tweener) does not translate well in the NBA. I'd rather take the less hyped Ryan Anderson from CAL over Love...

by R I O T on Mar 4, 2008 12:21 PM PST reply actions

asdf

Kevin Love would be dope to sign...if you want Greg Ostertag 2.0.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Mar 4, 2008 12:21 PM PST reply actions

Only Time will tell

Everyone's assumptions all have flaws. "White boy who can't run or jump won't succeed in the NBA" or "Athletic big man is what the NBA is about", etc, etc. There's cases to prove or disprove both arguments.

I'm no expert, but I like the fact that Love is fundamentally sound. Then again, i'm old school like that. Yes, there's a lot he needs to work on, yes, his athleticism is a issue, yes, he'll be undersized in the NBA. He won't be a Tim Duncan or Dwight Howard, but he'll be a very servicable big in the NBA making 20 fold the salary we're making.

by diggitydawg510 on Mar 4, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions

asdf

Wasn't Dunsissy fundamentally sound too?

by J Rich 4 MVP on Mar 4, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions

Not a big man, and not tough like Love

dun was soft as mochi ice cream on a hot summer day in Fresno.

by diggitydawg510 on Mar 4, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions

I need to interject

That Mr. Iggy is a total gangsta for contributing not one but two 100+ post diaries in like the same hour. That has to be a GSoM record. Even if he is an anti-Biedrins bigot and a FUCLA fanboy: big props...

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 4, 2008 2:37 PM PST reply actions

Danilo Gallinari

I may be a bit biased because I am half-Italian but I would love to see the Warriors draft Danilo Gallinari in this year's draft. I know it's unlikely to happen but it would be good because he's a good player and it would be good for him to play with fellow Italian Belinelli - they could form a good 2/3 partnership. He is a Small Forward with good height (6-9) and has a high basketball IQ. He is a great ball-handler, a good passer and picks up 1.5 steals per 31 minutes (2.25/48 minutes. He is a good shooter, has 3-point range and gets to the free-throw line a lot.

This is from http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Danilo-Gallinari-535/
AT A GLANCE - Danilo Gallinari
Strengths:

Size for position
Productivity at highest level outside NBA at young age
Maturity
Versatility
Fundamentals
Ability to play multiple positions
Strength
Frame
Intensity
Winning mentality
Court vision
Ability to create own shot
Ball-handling skills with either hand
Hesitation moves
Utilizing screens
Ability to draw fouls
Body control
Pull-up jumper
Shooting mechanics
Basketball IQ
Poise

Weaknesses:

Quickness
Explosiveness
Ability to defend NBA small forwards?
Consistent 3-point shooting
Post-up moves
Rebounding

I know it's unlikely that we draft him, especially as he is projected to be a late lottery pick but if we do, I'll be very pleased.

by zaki on Mar 4, 2008 3:58 PM PST reply actions

I like Gallinari

Although he and Nicholas Batum are relative unknowns in the states. Both look to be lottery bound to mid first round.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions

Assuming we land in the #15-20 range

Batum and Galinari are the type of guys we should probably be looking at. They're likely to be slightly undervalued because they don't play any of the three defined, desirable positions (C, PF, PG); and we'll likely need some versatility and athleticism at the swing spots to replace MP2 and Barnes.

This year, as every year: best player available. If Mulson and Co. deem that to be Kevin Love, so be it...

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 4, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions

The way we're going

Looks like we'll be in the 20-23 range. I think it'd be a major collapse of WARRIOR proportions to be picking as high as 15th...barring any draft day trade.

BPA would definitely be the case at our picking range though.

I'd love for the warriors to use that TPE for another important cog to the team. That cog, however remains unknown, debatable and entertaining.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 4, 2008 6:37 PM PST up reply actions

can he D?

or is he the second coming of TROY MURPHY???

Let's see

Under 7 ft center... check

Nice Outside stroke... check

A touch slow... check

Can Board a bit... check

Honestly I haven't seen too much of Love beyond maybe two games this season, and Sportscenter highlights... but didn't we trade away "him" away last season?

by Baron Von DOOM on Mar 4, 2008 7:40 PM PST reply actions

and don't mind the typo

by Baron Von DOOM on Mar 4, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions

ooopsss...

didn't read the previous postings either... sorry to accidently jack an idea

by Baron Von DOOM on Mar 4, 2008 7:42 PM PST up reply actions

Don't care what mock drafts say

My mock drafts are NBA scouts - they say he's a lottery talent and if he isn't made a lottery promise, he's not coming out.

So the Warriors don't really have a chance with the way things stand right now.

Options:
Richard Hendrix (big, bruising rebounder .. but can he shoot enough to earn time with Nellie?)
Ryan Anderson (but I feel like he's a little Troy Murphish)
Darrell Arthur (he can score, but I donno if he's got he needed toughness)
Anthony Randolph (he's a Brandan Wright clone)

by pree on Mar 4, 2008 8:00 PM PST reply actions

Anthony Randolph

is an intriguing prospect. But again, too much like Wright.

I liked Arthur last year, he's slipped since then and i've been hoping the warriors could snag him as a key reserve.

Pree...What about your man JaVale McGee?

I'd like to see a trade up for Donte Greene, but wouldn't want to part with Wright, Monta or Beans for him...

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Mar 5, 2008 2:26 AM PST up reply actions

Sorry...

Your assessment of Love makes him sound too much like POB...I'll pass.

by DubsDominate on Mar 4, 2008 11:10 PM PST reply actions

not so bad

I dont think that Kevin Love's skills will transport that well into the NBA.
Theres a small chance he could blow up (didnt they knock Boozer for the same things as Love, making him fall to 2nd rnd?)
Even still comparing him to a large Luke Walton/Troy Murphy/Ostertag I think draft him!
Yea those guys werent that good, but would be really servicable as guys coming off the bench, everyones expecting "o lets get ourselves a starter", that really doesnt happen that much at pick 21.

I think he'll fall to 17 latest. I'm into the idea of drafting
-Ty Lawson (perfect fast blur to match our style, like a more-pg version of monta) The only problem with him is you cant have him and monta on at the same time theyd get tore up on defense. Still I think of him as like a Barbosa but better distributer.
-Devon Hardin/Jason Thompson both seem like awesome big men.
-Ryan Anderson seems like Austin Croshere 2.0, which could be cool for replacing him since the latters pretty oldish.
Im fine with picking low-ceiling guys at 20 since typically the high-ceiling guys seem gone for the most part by then.

by baron4mvp on Mar 5, 2008 12:41 AM PST reply actions

hate these

draft/trade diaries when the trade deadline is over and were in the thick of a playoff race. But since were on this subject, why not just throw whatever money we can (after signing our own FAs) to Paul Millsap or Brandon Bass. That would solve our size problems instantly!

warriors dont fish they hunt!