Golden Break: Waving, Not Drowning
With roughly four minutes left in the fourth quarter Sunday night, someone in the upper deck of the Arena decided to stand up and sit down. Then he or she got some friends to do it, then the next row, then the next section. Before you could say "Kelenna Azubuike shooting two," the Arena witnessed its first NBA basketball fan wave since well before Monta Ellis was born. As the wave crested somewhere around section 122, Kelenna bricked the first free throw and hit the second. The wave crashed to shore with the resumption of the game a few seconds later. In its wake, however, we've been left with a question tugging at us like the cold Pacific undertow: what's happened to the Arena crowd?

For those sick of this topic and ready to move onto the Spurs, here's the short answer: we're victims of our own success. Now move along and get started on figuring out how Kelenna Azubuike is going to guard Tim Duncan. For those willing to linger for a few more minutes on what it means in April 2008 to be a warm body in the Oracle Arena, here's what I think we're witnessed over the past year.
In March 2007, Warriors fans were a hardy, loyal, world-beaten bunch. We'd had our hopes dashed so many times that we'd come not only to accept it, but to revel in it. Warriors fans were the ones who would root for their team no matter what the odds or the margin of defeat. When Paul Wong rolled out his first We Believe sign early in March 2007, I'm guessing it provoked as many cynical chuckles as fervent cheers. Then, as the 2006-07 Warriors gradually started rolling towards the playoffs and picking up speed, something totally unexpected happened: all of those starry-eyed, die-hard Warriors fans went from laughing stock to toast of the town. After so many years of losing, the fan base had been whittled down to a rabid, committed few -- there for the love of basketball, Bay Area sports, or both. When we were unleashed on the NBA playoffs, the joy was visceral and pure. It didn't matter whether the "We Believe" sentiment was stuck on a t-shirt with a Comcast logo or picked up as a David Stern talking point, the fans during the playoff push and Mavs series were part of something special and unforgettable.
What happened next is a quick lesson in consumer culture. With story upon story lauding the Warriors and their fans, people took notice. They watched games, bought tickets, and joined the crowd. It looked like fun, and everyone likes fun. Some of those new fans immediately took it upon themselves to scour the internet for information on the team, watch every minute of every game, and cheer every Ws' basket as if it could be their last. Other new fans spent the first quarter of games standing in line for mixed drinks, screamed the loudest during the pizza give-away, and asked you to sit down when you gave Monta or Baron or Jackson a standing o. We can bitch and moan about the way those fans behaved (and still behave), but the problem doesn't lie in their newness. We were all new fans once. We're all riding on this bandwagon together. Some of us are more recent passengers, sitting closer to the sides. Some of us are trapped in the center and will be clutching to broken boards long after the shaky contraption lands in a ditch.
Hokey images aside, the closest analogy to the old / new fan debate is gentrification: crappy neighborhood X gets resurrected by dedicated individuals wanting to improve their home. As the neighborhood improves, others see what it has to offer and want a piece of the action. When the new people move in, they can either blend with the neighborhood and contribute to its improvement or set themselves off from the community, defeating the very process from which they sought to benefit. If there's limited space in the neighborhood, an even tougher process begins by which each new arrival with money to pay for rising property costs signals the departure of one of the old guard, responsible for the value-adding turnaround. If this is our situation in the Arena - every new fan forces out an old dedicated one - then it's a pretty bleak outlook for those of us left in the stands.
Fortunately, I don't buy that the gentrification analogy holds entirely. It works so far as both processes are inevitable. As the Warriors become more successful, more people will like them and want to be a part of the experience. It also works in the sense that those "new to the block" should be judged by their actions. Are you so unaware of what's happening on the court that you're doing a wave during crucial free throws - distracting our own player? Are you imposing your own idea of when people should stand up or sit down at a basketball game without taking a moment to look around to see whether everyone else in the Arena is standing up and cheering? Or did you just buy your tickets hoping to sell them off for a profit, maybe to a Lakers fan like the one in front of me last Monday night who offered to knife me when I met his Kobe MVP chants with boos. If you fall into the above categories, I have a bone to pick with you (but no, I won't knife you). Otherwise, welcome to crowd. Cheer early, cheer often, just don't cheer during our free throws.
The gentrification analogy still holds up on the economic end. As the Warriors eased into almost-certain sellouts during the second half of this season, seats in the Arena became a scarce commodity. Chris Cohan knows more about supply and demand curves than jump shots and crossovers, so I had no doubt that the surge in attendance would soon push ticket prices with it. Season ticket holders got the bad news last month. Single game buyers better start saving their pennies for the fall. Some fans won't be able to afford to go to games after this year. It's a sad fact not worth denying.
That said, the measure of a fan has never been his or her ability to get into the Arena or stadium or ballpark. Whether you can drop money on a ticket -- or even live in the same city or state as the Arena -- says nothing about your love for the team. The community of fans isn't limited like a neighborhood or a stadium. Whether it's wearing your team's logo with pride, screaming at your computer for the stat-tracker to update, or rambling on for way too long on blogs like this, there are endless ways to represent. One more person joining in doesn't bump another out. We believe in the same team.
Adam Lauridsen blogs regularly at Fast Break: the San Jose Mercury News' Warriors Fan Blog.
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spot on
great post
by pfree on Apr 1, 2008 12:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
This year, the crowd has been mixed really. But Sunday's game was one of the worst.
But as we have seen from all the comments here on this blog, there are still loyal, knowledgeable and dedicated fans out there.
Where is the frenzied crowd this year? Come on, we're in the playoff race with only 9 games left! Let's bring some energy for the next home game. Norcal rivalary!
by gswfanforlife on Apr 1, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great read
by lightz0ut on Apr 1, 2008 12:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup
by Adam Lauridsen on Apr 1, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very well written Adam...
It's a shame I'm going to be missing the playoffs- even the prices for that are out of my ball park! I'll be representing my devotion through the comforts of my living room!
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 12:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And...
And your online posters. They always rock.
by IQofaWarrior on Apr 1, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
knock on wood
by belilaugh on Apr 1, 2008 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I hope our crowd doesn't completely degenerate into some of the other crowds out there, like the Mavs, where the PA guy has to PLEAD the crowd to chant DEFENSE. I noticed this during our Game 1 of them in last year's playoffs.
I hope the same for this site. I hope this site doesn't get too popular and start attracting the drive-by commenters who will start polluting this site with mindless one-liners.
by IQofaWarrior on Apr 1, 2008 12:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's tough... reality is a bummer lol
The first game I took my wife to was a vs. Spurs game back in like 2005. We paid like $20 bucks for upper level seats up in row 14... those were the days! Yea we sucked, but there was elbow room with the wifey and the lines weren't always as long as they were now for grub. I was trying to get an idea how much single tix would be w/ my agent for next season and man- it rounded off to $160 for 2 upper level seats around row 8-10.
That's hurt! Who knows how the Oracle will be next season... maybe they'll add a roller coaster up in the Nose bleeds... I mean club 200 since they have 2 bars, and fun stations all around.
I was actually happy when they didn't have any of that...
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
man I
by RubberDubDubs on Apr 1, 2008 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember...
Those were the days! I'm sorry for bringing it back!
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I bought a sheet of tickets off some dude selling them out
of his trunk in front of a Rasputin's.
The next day he tried to sell me speakers....j/p =)
by ThisIZtheSeason on Apr 1, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man!
Those were the days!
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rasputin's
theres always dudes there trying to sell something:
cd's, cell phones, speakers, tv's...I wish they still sold tickets =)
by ThisIZtheSeason on Apr 1, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the V-Town Ras!
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good times..
by PIETRUSandCREAM on Apr 1, 2008 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
best times
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Apr 1, 2008 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sec 108 row16
by Psion on Apr 1, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm
the WAVE is lame, and must be killed on the spot.
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Apr 1, 2008 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the wave really that bad?
If Buike had made the freethrow, would it be a problem? He's a professional athlete and shouldn't be phased by waving arms. If he shot free throws like peja, then I would agree that he was phased. But it's not like Buike is a 90% FT shooter.
I just don't really think this is a big deal.
by Calamity on Apr 1, 2008 12:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
by triplesix on Apr 1, 2008 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No waves in an INDOOR arena!!
by gswfanforlife on Apr 1, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was there
by Dyno Garage SF on Apr 1, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's
I don't know but in an NBA full time out and in such an important game it shouldn't even happen.
by Kleenex on Apr 1, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wave
by oaklandish on Apr 1, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beeing
by buky on Apr 1, 2008 1:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
old skool warriors games
Now I live in Dallas and security goes so hard
Still got great seats for playoff games 1 and 2 last yr tho.
Can't wait till Wednesday. Tickets are mad expensive here too. I am gonna buy lowers from a scalper outside. Game is on ESPN so the place is gonna b packed. But, I can still talk to my brother during the game. Dallas fans are not crunk.
I will get 2 or 3 middle fingers tho cuz i rock a bunch of warrior gear. Steven Jackson's wristband from game 1 for good luck of coarse.
by jewniorballa on Apr 1, 2008 1:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this got me so hyped up...
by PIETRUSandCREAM on Apr 1, 2008 1:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you guys are making too much out of this
by sup3rk1ng on Apr 1, 2008 1:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But there's always room, and no matter how good the Warriors will get, I'll always wear my jersey with pride.
On the flip side....I loved the Hornets and their lowest-in-the-NBA prices. Let noone fool you, whenever the prices rise, noone will come to the games here. They'll just go watch OU Basketball instead.
Tony.psd = Da Man
http://adonalobsessed.blogspot.com/
by Zorgon on Apr 1, 2008 2:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Everybody quit your bitchin....
by bucknall20 on Apr 1, 2008 5:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh well...
There was a time when I'd go 2 a family party w/ a Warriors Jersey on and the whole party would boo me! This was in Vallejo! Everyone would chant Kobe! Kobe! and the majority of the people either had Garnet or Bryant Jerseys. Flip the script to 2007-08 and the same peeps who boo me are rocking Ellis and Davis Jerseys!
You're right- business is good and it makes money :-) It brings in new fans who bring there friends and become newer fans etc. It drives prices up and makes it difficult for some of us to attend games next season. We're not even finished with this season and I'm already worried about next!
I been upset w/ GSoM for all the bi@#tching as you mentioned but than again, yesterday- I realized it was a place for peeps to voice out opinions and feedback. I'm sure everybody just means well. I guess i found my soft spot!
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tnx Adam
some thought
maybe Nellie isn't best coach for title hopes
but he is best coach for franchise owner
-maybe thats his mission
I MAY BE HOMER BUT I MAY NOT BE DOUBTER
by Lat We N Trash on Apr 1, 2008 5:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love The Article, Love the Title
-Stevie Smith
Nobody heard him, the dead man,
But still he lay moaning:
I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but drowning.
Poor chap, he always loved larking
And now he's dead
It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,
They said.
Oh, no no no, it was too cold always
(Still the dead one lay moaning)
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
by AndOne on Apr 1, 2008 5:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good article, however...
by triplesix on Apr 1, 2008 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Road game support
by calniners408 on Apr 1, 2008 8:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great article
by Number22Drew on Apr 1, 2008 9:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pyroteknix
donald sterling - please reallocate funds and spend pre-game show money on things actually beneficial to winning
George
http://sportstsar.com/
by sportstsar on Apr 1, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That crowd was Weak!
I remember last year when we played Dallas in the regular season, being at the arena was insane. Everyone had a Baron Beard on their face, and Fan's had funny signs and pictures of the mavs. Especially one of old nash, giving Dirk a piggy back ride next to Cuban.
Comparing the two games, i was really disappointed, I wanted to go the game and really cheer my team on, but somebody outbid me for tickets online, 65 bucks for uppers!!!
I think that if the crowd continue to dwindle down, we might need to bring back those Thunderstixs. I've always hated those damn things, but at least it'll give the seat-warmers something to do with their hands than the wave during Warrior free-throws.
by 3 The Hard Way on Apr 1, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wave Started in the section next to us
I think part of the crowd is definitely not as "hardcore" as it once was. However, one think to keep in mind is that it's impossible for the crowd to retain the same type of intensity that they had for game 3 4 and 6 of last year's playoff vs Dallas run for an entire season. I was there for game 3. The place was electric. The "Overrated" chants cracked me up as Dallas was shooting around.
The most symbolic moment of last year's fans during that series for me was this moment:
They had a moment of silence for the Virginian Tech victims before the game started. There was a pregnant pause, where you could tell everyone was trying to hold in their excitement. Then you heard a "Go Warriors" and the crowd erupted. You never heard the PA announce "end" the moment. That was great, even if disrespectful.
Simply, not every game will be like that, and people might be getting tired of lifting the Warriors every time they fall behind by double digits in the 1st quarter. I remember the Chicago game where Chris Duhon (Duhon????, omg) had his career high in Oracle. I was conflicted: should I cheer this team on when they don't seem to even really want to play? Well, my voice was gone the next day, so figure it out. They lost anyway.
by generic username on Apr 1, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Section 218 is my peoples!
I will say, row 2- the seats behind me are always a mixed bunch: they're either away team fans or they type of fans you mentioned. Unfortunately, during the 76ers game a few weeks back there were these rowdy people behind me talking about soccer and relationships during the game... I ignored it but by the beggining of the 2nd, they got so rowdy hitting and poking each other that the guy behind me spilled his whole beer on my back and on top of my head. I was so mad I got up and said "what the fudge man?!?!"
I love beer but not on top of my head lol. I wonder if they were the same kids in their early 20's? I wanted to sock him lol but broke bread at the end of the game... that and we won! Man... the wave started in section 218?!? how embarrassing!
...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!
by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 200's are the sh#t!
I sat in the 200's for the playoffs. They are/were good seats for the price, and usually have good fans. The encroachment of non-basketball savvy fans into Oracle is a given, and will continue to happen. However, I think that if the W's get in the playoffs, intensity will be high. Can you really imagine anyone but a true fan paying whatever the prices will be for the upper level (probably $100+ per seat for the back row behind the basket). Even the most fairweather fan will see that his passion does not match that price when he can watch it on his friend's LCD 1080p HD. The top will be ready to blow.
And yes, I agree. If you are not gonna watch the game, get the hell out of there. That's what Club 200 is for.
PS: Comcast needs to step it up in Hayward. I need my TNT HD before the playoffs!
by generic username on Apr 1, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thx for the article... but i just have to vent...
I've been going to warrior games for years and i never heard some one say that before.
I'm glad this article helped explain to me whats going on the fan base at the Arena.
by vdozens on Apr 1, 2008 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hooray...
Chanting Ike, calling for Adonal, anticipating Manute squaring up for a 3.
Good times I must say. The wagon tainted it for me now... =[
by ejdacanay on Apr 1, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The wave at a basketball game...
"If you can name 20 players of the top of your head in the history of the Warriors franchise, not including anyone from this year or last year's roster, then you're a true dubs fan."
Like I said, it's a super easy question but to a bandwagoner it is not.

copy & paste: geocities.com/nellieballtee
by JonDoe on Apr 1, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
here you go
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Apr 1, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is mine
there are my 20
by sloth11 on Apr 1, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright guys real quick!
by turbulence24 on Apr 1, 2008 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahh yes...

copy & paste: geocities.com/nellieballtee
by JonDoe on Apr 1, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about this...
by turbulence24 on Apr 1, 2008 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
anyways...
by turbulence24 on Apr 1, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My input
When I get to the Oracle, people are pronouncing the Warriors players names wrong. (Some schmuck said KELENNA PEROVIC) I start talking about players from the past, and then people chime in with, he isnt on the team this year. I reply with, you know, the Warriors have existed before last years playoffs, and then they shut up.
As far as the Wave goes, that was pure bush league. I was yelling at the fans from my seat at home, cause I was so pissed off. Granted, the fans have been pretty good this season, but compared to the knowledge and the passion from last years playoff run, its not even close.
I miss the good ole days of getting free tickets from everywhere cause my friends didnt like how bad they were. Now, they are asking me if I want to go with them, cause they love the Warriors... Oh well. it was bound to happen
by sloth11 on Apr 1, 2008 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the wave pic
by thegoldenman on Apr 1, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mini-wave when Opponents shoot free throws
The only time people behind the basket make noise and try to get other teams to miss is close to the end of the game or when they give out those balloons.
Just like those optical illusion spinning wheels that they banned, I think we can make a wave that goes back and forth behind the basket.
by ron113pnoy on Apr 1, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JonDoe...
Lets see...Monta...oh hold up..that is this years' roster..
[ LOOKS AT LOGIN USER NAME ]
Forget it. I quit.
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 1, 2008 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the wave sucks
Im pretty young, and got into basketball last year. The first game I watched was memphis OT last year, do I count as bandwagon?
by fremontfan1 on Apr 1, 2008 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon
by thegoldenman on Apr 1, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry about it Fremont...
Whether you were a fan yesterday, a fan back when they were the San Francisco Warriors, when they won the 1975 NBA CHAMPIONSHIP, etc.
I would like to be officially be called a bandwagon fan Starting today. That aint no April Fool's joke either. I'm serious.
[ puts on serious face ]
Thank you.
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 1, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty young too
but im really glad i got into this game they call basketball
my dad's been a Warriors fan for years-yearsss and he got me into it a little more than a year ago.
My first Game was against the Timberwolves last year.
Kevin Garnett was still on the team, and my dad spurged on lower bowl and it was so awesome. Now i look back and im like,
Why did we go see the weak Wolves!?
haha,
there's no point to this except well, i wanted to say that I love this game.
by gby822 on Apr 1, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
test
like I said, ive been here not to long, but I am not that old
by fremontfan1 on Apr 1, 2008 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
asdf
People are making this into a huge deal, but seriously, get over it. It was cool to see an indoor stadium do the wave because it never happens, ever. We won the game, we didn't lose because of that free throw and if we had, well then Buike should be practicing his free throws. They play the whole game with huge crowd noise and people moving behind the backboard, to say the wave made him miss his free throw is utterly retarded. Besides, how many times this year have you seen Buike split free throws, the answer is a lot.
by J Rich 4 MVP on Apr 1, 2008 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I personally wouldn't participate in the WAVE!
by mightymadskillz on Apr 1, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Back to the Quiz...
1)Winston Garland.
?
[ quits again ]
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 1, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
World B. Free, Matt Fish, Washburn,
by bucknall20 on Apr 1, 2008 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh man what a lineup!
by in for life on Apr 1, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great article
by olympicmike on Apr 1, 2008 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
I remember when GSW collapsed after Webber and Nellie left... Within a brief two years we were neck deep in the Pit of Dispair (aka the Twardzik/Adelman era) and memories of the 'good ol days' seemed like a lifetime ago. But I stayed with it and everytime I tried to tell folks about some crazy baseline move from Gattling, or John Barry raining 3's people would laugh at me for being a Warrior fan. In some sick way, I think we had to learn to enjoy the pain and frustration...
Over the next 13 years I can't remember how many times I said "because when they finally turn it around, it's gonna be that much sweeter". Well last year it happened and attending Games 4 and 6 against the Mavs was something I will NEVER forget. Thinking about it still gives me goose bumps... You could literally feel people shedding the years of shame and pain. The atmosphere went far deeper than just screaming and yelling. And the Wave? Puhlease... Even a couple hours after the game we were at a backup at the San Mateo Bridge toll plaza and it was GSW fans still honking horns and waiving shirts and We Believe signs out the windows...
With all that excitment its tough to blame the bandwagon fans especially with Bay Area sports in such disarray now. And in all honesty, now that expectations of the team are up that type of atmosphere can't be duplicated even if the bandwagon folks weren't there. So its good to know how many people here will always appreciate the team, win or lose! Unstoppable Baby!!
by in for life on Apr 1, 2008 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
But last year's first round spectacle against the Mavs brought it all back for me. I begged all of my friends out here on the East Coast to stay up late to watch the games. They finally broke down and decided to watch after the Warriors took out the Mavs and started the second round against Utah.
By then it was too late.
All of a sudden, a bunch of new people sat in the old seats -- people who had no idea how to act or what to watch for. They'd come to witness the spectacle first-hand without realizing that THEY were the spectacle they'd come to witness.
The fans fell flat, the team had no energy to feed from, and, Baron's dunk on AK47 aside, we all know what happened next.
And my fear is that the Warriors are going to have to miss the postseason this year in order to purge the fairweather fans out and get the raucous, rabid fans back in.
Ugh.
by gldnbrz on Apr 5, 2008 5:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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