Offseason Checklist & Why We Missed the Playoffs.
-First off I'd like to say. Great Season Warriors. I will have to say that I was first off not thrilled with one of my favorite Warriors all time leaving, but I was happy that we got Wright and Belinelli.
-Secondly, I want to say to all those who are complaining about the playoff system:
Drop It.
We lost fair and square in an extremely tight Western Conference race. This format is a classic East vs West matchup and this is the first time in history it has happened where a race ended up this neck to neck. Why should we get special treatment? So many other teams could have gotten into the playoffs over the past decade if the system was best 16 teams. We are the only ones to be blamed for the missed opportunity, primarily when we lost at home to Denver. Be rational please.
-Lastly, I got a quick and short (funny to some) offseason checklist.
--Purge the Wagon. Warrior fans are notorious now for our bandwagon mainly those who keep talking smack and can't control their mouths. I'm tired of hearing this cockiness. Real fans don't run their mouths and they were not here when we weren't "The best NBA Fans" 5 years ago. Boy, I do miss pre-bandwagon days when Higher Bowl gets sent down to Lower Bowl cuz of low attendance.
- Acquire a Dominant or Strong Inside Presence-We need a real Big Man. We can acquire one through Trades, the Draft, or Free Agency. Like it or not Run-N-Gun and Andris as our Franchise Center will not win us a Championship. Brandan Wright does not count as he is purely a PF and by his size and Athleticism it seems he should be played as a SF.
- Emphasize Defense- Face it we lose because of this very reason. Our Post D is horrible, maybe the worst in the league. Our Perimeter D is just as bad down the stretch. Nelson made the Mavs a Defensive Force, he should be able to work his magic with our squad. Acquiring players who can play D will also help drastically.
- Re-Sign Monta Ellis- Numbers is the problem. With 60 Million Dollars in Cap Room (40 Million Available) we need to keep him for cheap. Possible contract would be 6 Years/ 74 Million. Based on Kevin Martin's contract.
- Draft a PG or C-Like it or not Baron will not be the face of the Warriors in the near future. We need to draft the most important positions to any Franchise a good Leader in a PG who can distribute the ball effectively and/or a Franchise Center. Will we get one this year? Possibly. Depends on the Lotto and who fluctuates in the draft. My early picks (At #14) are DeAndre Jordan, Darrel Arthur, and Anthony Randolph. If we win the lotto (.5% Chance/1 in 200 chance) I would pick Rose if we can get rid of Baron, if not then a better Carmelo Anthony in Michael Beasley. And No to Kevin Love.
- Get more Asian Cheerleaders- I feel there is too little of them =P. A couple years ago there were several of them. Most were good looking, especially Tiffany if I remember correctly. LOL
- Cut- Croshere, Barnes, O'Bryant, and maybe Watson.
- Re-Sign- Michael Pietrus. One of my favorite guys personally. Highlight Reel for Blocks. Excellent off the bench, one of out better defenders. Kelenna Azubuike- Our guard version of Mark Madsen and Ronny Turiaf. Pure Energy, very young as well. Can hit the 3.
The jury is out on Beans. He would command at least 8 Mil/Year. I would like him back, but if we have a shot at Elton Brand, Josh Smith, Okafor or Jermaine O'Neal (Less money for O'Neal) then I would attempt to swoop one of them in. (All are Restricted or Can Opt Out)
Baron Davis, is also on the bubble for me. Love him as our Warriors captain, but I would not cry or mind if he left the team. He holds 1/3 of our teams salary at approximately 38 Million over the next 2 years. If we give him a new contract, then that would help in keeping Beans and possibly acquiring a Big Man who opts out.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Oh god
quit it with all this we need a big man….
We need a bench… We didn’t make the playoffs because our guys were gassed at the end of the season and didn’t show up for the big games.
Andris was dropping 12-15 board nights toward the end of the season + he is only 22 years of age. He is a big guy who runs with this team.
by Spidz34 on Apr 16, 2008 3:27 PM PDT 0 recs
I agree....
We don’t need a big man and we do need depth…. but I’ll still be prayin on lottery day! For the love of god….please let us get Beasley!
by MullyHaircutDay! on
Apr 16, 2008 9:04 PM PDT
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Correct...
We do not need a big man but we do need rebounds. We need an Artest/Brand type of player, someone to do the dirty work. Beasley would be a miracle (I don’t know if he plays defense) but I don’t know if we’d be able to afford him in the long run. We’re not gonna get him anyway.
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by JonDoe on
Apr 17, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
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the Spurs
were in the same position when they got Duncan. I know the odds are against us and it’s like a 1 and a million chance, but to quote the prolific movie Dumb & Dumber…..”So you’re sayin there’s a chance!”
by MullyHaircutDay! on
Apr 17, 2008 7:34 PM PDT
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With...
..all due respect. Andris got destroyed by Ronny Turiaf in almost every game he played. He can’t handle any of the premier big men. And he’s a FA like I said.
Yes, our bench is weak, but our major concern is Defense and Rebounding. A Dominant Big Man will take care of that. We can easily convert Andris to a PF when we get a good big man. We gave up the most points and we gave up the most rebounds. We can easily fill in spots on the bench this FAncy and through the draft.
A reason for the bench is the under utilization of the Rookies. Marco Belinelli is greatly under rated for his Defense which he was used for often when he was with Climamio Bologna. Instead of using Brandan Wright, we signed Chris Webber.
by ejdacanay on Apr 16, 2008 4:02 PM PDT 0 recs
except
dominant big men are almost impossible to get and are usually franchise players. We are going to have to draft one not trade for one.
by saintdee on
Apr 16, 2008 4:13 PM PDT
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Yes.
I hope we can get DeAndre Jordan who reminds me of Bynum and Howard through the draft. But there are a few Strong PF/C that can opt out this Summer. My wishlist is Okafor or Brand. Emeka is restricted though while Brand needs to opt out.
by ejdacanay on
Apr 16, 2008 4:30 PM PDT
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And how do you suggest we do that?
Andris rarely plays as PF and his skillset suits the C position.
It never occurred to me that one man could play with the faith of 50 million.
by imovermyhead on
Apr 16, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
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1 player doesn't fix this team's defense
If all you needed was one good defender and rebounder on a team to be elite than why aren’t the nuggets the best defensive team in the league with Camby? Team defense is key. I think we just have to focus more on playing good defense and having Monta being the only one leaking, with the other 4 players going for defensive rebounds. That should help fix our rebounding woes and Monta is a One-Man fastbreak anyway.
by Calamity on
Apr 17, 2008 5:24 AM PDT
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Tell Me.
Which Championship teams in the past 25 years had their best big man close to the skill level of Andris? None. Dorsey would be Ben Wallace if we can steal him in the 2nd. Thing is he won’t fall to #44.
And look at point #2. Its point #2 for a reason. lol
by ejdacanay on
Apr 17, 2008 1:09 PM PDT
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Andris can barely handle the ball
There’s no way he can be anything other than a 5
by biggiep on Apr 16, 2008 4:46 PM PDT 0 recs
FIBA Euro
In the FIBA leagues he was considered a Power Forward he even said he’s more of a PF then a Center:
Biedrins himself does not like to call himself a center, rather a combination forward. Right now most of his points come from back to the basket moves, as he is able to use his impressive quickness to get to the basket.
He is still young like Spidz said so he can work on his handles and dribbling in the off season.
by ejdacanay on
Apr 16, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
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Aside from re-signing Monta, Biedrins & Baron..
Dubz need:
1.) B-Wright to gain considerable overall strength this offseason in order to pair up with Biedrins next year. With his length and athleticism, the added strength will help our interior D and rebounding woes tremendously.
2.) To get a rebounding, defensive-minded center (Thabeet/Hardin/Dorsey) to back up Biedrins through the draft.. Hardin/Dorsey might be available when the Dubz pick in the 2nd round.
3.) To get a big point guard (Crittenton/Snow) to back up Baron, so he can defend the opposing 2 guard, while Monta guards the pg like what Baron and Monta does already. The problem with CJ is that Monta and him are way too small to guard opposing backcourts.
4.) To make an offer for Childress and see if ATL will match it. To me, he is Pietrus with an IQ and we would need to replace Pietrus’ defensive mentality and energy. Childress would thrive in an uptempo system and he could start on certain nights based on matchups allowing Monta to provide instant offense off the bench like what Ginobili does. Bring the only fro left in the game back to the yay.
5.) To re-sign Buki to a dual role contract as the backup sg and the personal trainer for B-Wright and Jelly-Beli. It’s time to turn them into Hans and Franz!
by misterjennings on Apr 16, 2008 4:52 PM PDT 0 recs
like your childress idea
W’s need smarter players, Childress went to Stanford. the W’s need to jettison the streaky, inconsistent players on the roster and air france is at the top of that list.
"i'm just trying to follow my dream, dad."
"but your dream is stupid!"
by pervisNeverNervous on
Apr 17, 2008 9:11 AM PDT
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I love the idea of signing Childress!! Atlanta can match any offer since he is a restricted free agent but you never know. They still have to resign Josh Smith and theyre already over the salary cap. Lets see if the Atlanta is willing to pay the luxury tax.
by krazybalr on
Apr 17, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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We should...
Get Brand for sure if he opts out, trade for a 3 point shooter, and draft Dorsey in second round, find a veteran big PG in FA. That would be a playoff team next year
by warriorsalltheway on Apr 16, 2008 5:16 PM PDT 0 recs
We can't...
afford Brand….unless, we have no Baron. Who would you choose?
by MullyHaircutDay! on
Apr 16, 2008 9:01 PM PDT
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they need....
to build a team made for the west. i love the whole run and gun or nellie-ball system but it wont take us far in the playoffs. boozer, okur, ak47, millsap just destroyed us in the playoffs last year. and the suns, actually steve kerr realized that you cannot win with the run and gun style. if they couldnt win it with nash, amare and marion we cant win it with baron, jack, monta and andris. and in the the early 2000 years nellie couldnt so it with nash, finley and dirk
yes they should start off with getting a big because without one, i hate to agree with sir charles but all we do is shoot. sorry but andris cant guard true centers.
in my opinion, harrington should come off the bench so we would have a more sold second unit.
i want a bike, like a beach cruiser of somthin like that - Baron Davis
by boomdizzle5 on Apr 16, 2008 9:02 PM PDT 0 recs
boozer, okur, ak47, millsap just destroyed us in the playoffs last year.
Actually the jazz were lucky to get by us last year, we were a pretty good team then.
by Skeptic con Urquell on
Apr 17, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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good post mrjennings
Can anyone tell me how much stronger BW has become over the current season?
by Bluejohn on Apr 16, 2008 9:48 PM PDT 0 recs
I'm guessing
that earlier in the year he couldn’t back down Monta in the low post so Nellie sat him.
They say he’s gained at least 15 pounds already since being drafted. I’m hoping he gains at least 20 more before next season.
by misterjennings on
Apr 16, 2008 10:42 PM PDT
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next year
First resign Monta, keep Baron, Jackson, only sign Biedrins if he would accept $8/yr, otherwise may try to do sign and trade. Second, trade Harrington! if we could somehow trade him to Sacramento for Artest I would do in a heartbeat, he was very inconsistent, especially the last two months. Since we are a jump shooting team, let’s draft a SF who can shoot, Brandon Rush would be great on this team, can defend and can score. If we can use our trade exemption and trade for another late 1st round pick this year let’s get Dorsey on this team to help actually defend Stoudamire, Boozer, Brand or any PF who has career highs off this team. We need to start playing defense! Let’s go Mullin, make it happen.
by shootda3 on Apr 16, 2008 10:40 PM PDT 0 recs
Artest
I like his intensity but he would not be able to guard any of the beasts you named at the end there if he played the 4 for the Dubz.
He is also not as good of a rebounder as you would expect for someone with such a physique. He’s a strong dude and probably even bigger than Barkley ever was, but his mentality is not there to be a low post force. Artest likes to settle for long range shots when he should be punishing taller guys down low with his quickness and bulldozing smaller guys.
I agree with the Dorsey pick because we need someone to back up Biedrins and do some dirty work. I like Hardin better because he is longer and has slightly more O than Dorsey. Also Hardin is a bay area product too.
Rush could probably help us too, but nobody knows if he can be better than what he showed at Kansas because he never had to take over a game there. But the good thing is that he was counted on to guard the opposition’s best perimeter player and he did fairly well.
by misterjennings on Apr 16, 2008 11:02 PM PDT 0 recs
I haven't seen Hardin play for two years
but when I did see him, I didn’t like what I saw. There has never been a player with less touch around the basket. Two-footers are like free throws for this guy. What good are offensive rebounds if you just throw them off the rim immediately after getting them, then follow that with an ill-advised foul?
Also … The NUMBER ONE thing on the Warriors’ offseason list should be to avoid letting this latest Nellie-BD situation lead to any stupid trades. The potential for this being a rift has led some to invoke the 1994 Chris Weber disaster. I remember thinking that the 1994 disaster was the GM’s fault, or even Cohan’s. They should have just waited for Nellie and Weber to resolve their differences; instead they pulled the trigger on a panic-trade that unloaded Weber for a nickel on the dollar.
Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. It’s up to Mully to stay cool here.
Brainless Automaton #439
by rubin sierra on
Apr 17, 2008 1:06 AM PDT
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"Dominant big man"
A dominant big man would be nice, but um, how exactly are we supposed to get him? The only way would be to trade Monta for Brand or something but I’d rather have Monta.
I hate how people blame us missing the playoffs on the Denver game, or anything besides horrible luck. We won 48 freaking games. Everyone here would’ve been happy with that number at the start of the season.
It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year
by gsw4life on Apr 17, 2008 3:05 AM PDT 1 recs
Check this!
Here’s my Checklist:
1) Get an athletic bruiser i.e Ben Wallace type of player, hell even Brandon Bass from the Mavericks kind of guy. Answer: Joey Dorsey out of Memphis. This is the official begining of the Joey Dorsey movement.
2) Pull the cord with POB, Kosta to Kosta, MP2, Barnes and Croshere to obtain new players that will actually play and can contribute.
3) Bring back the 1990’s style uniforms!!!
4) Play the bench more regardless if we are down or not. All other coaches in the NBA rest their players during the game no matter what-Nellie should too.
Answer to why we missed the Playoffs. We weren’t good enough. Point blank. The before mentioned should get us back in the Playoffs though. Go Dubs!
by gabezgsw on Apr 17, 2008 9:16 AM PDT 0 recs
i like artest too
what dre needs is a good PF next to him to provide weakside D help and rebounding. back door cuts, alley oops, the high screen and roll killed us this year b/c there was nobody else in the paint but dre.
that being said, dre at the 4 and kosta at the 5 is pretty intriguing, though kosta too, seems to prefer to take jump shots and finesse his way around the basket. what’s up with these Euros, doesn’t anybody bang over there?
i’ll disagree w/ getting rid of croshere. when healthy, he can provide a lift off the bench, something we lacked all year.
"i'm just trying to follow my dream, dad."
"but your dream is stupid!"
by pervisNeverNervous on Apr 17, 2008 9:18 AM PDT 0 recs
Croshere
I agree with what you said about him – he is worth keeping as he can provide lifts off the bench, has lots of experience, is a big-man who can shoot the three and he is by far our best free-throw shooter. Plus, it’s not like he would cost much to re-sign.
by zaki on Apr 17, 2008 7:30 PM PDT 0 recs
Brand
Baron for Brand in a sign and trade seems like an option but I don’t know if Brand will go for it. I can see Baron wanting it since he’ll be back in LA. Next would be to replace Baron with a big, pass first, defense oriented PG (Jarret Jack or Beno Udrih). Not sure if any will be available on the open market but I say put up Al as a bargaining chip. Not even sure if anyone will bite. Resigning Monta and Biedrins goes without saying. Keep MP2 and Kelena. Sign Desagana Diop in the off season.
Trade – Baron for Brand
Re Sign – Monta & Biedrins
Sign – DeSagana Diop
Trade – Al for Big Defensive Pass First PG
Starters:
PG – Open
SG – Monta
SF – Stephen Jackson
PF – Brand
C – Biedrins
Bench
Al (unless we can get a PG for him) – PF
Kelena – SG
Pietrus – SF
Wright – PF
Diop – C
Bellinelli – SG/PG
Croshere – PF
by dxc13 on Apr 17, 2008 7:35 PM PDT 0 recs
THIS IS BARON'S TEAM
Without a healthy Baron Davis, we will not compete. We have to build a team around Baron, Monta, Jackson, and Biedrins, we needed consistency from Al, Barnes and Pietrus because we lost JRich and they couldn’t produce enough. One more year with JRich and his give it your all attitude would have pushed us into the playoffs. The only benefit from all this is that we get a lottery pick this June. So Mullin you better pick an all-star after sacrificing this year’s team and not getting any help and not making any trades before the trading deadline. Next year’s starting line up: Baron, Monta, Jackson, Wright, Biedrins… off the bench Belinelli, Buke, #14 draft pick. Everyone else … Al, Pietrus, Barnes, CJ, Perovic, POB must be released due to lack of talent, motivation, and production. Please do not draft any more 7ft projects, take a 6’8” athletic shooter with some muscle to play defense. Take a 6’10” 265 lb bruiser in the 2nd round to back up Biedrins. Trade Al and/ or our trade exemption to Chicago for either Ben Gordon/Hinrich/Thomas or Noah. Chicago has talented underachieving players that Nellie can use. Let’s hope that Belinelli can come off the bench and score 20+ pts and Wright makes NBA most improved player. We Still Believe!
by shootda3 on Apr 17, 2008 9:48 PM PDT 0 recs
answer
put Kosta in gym for 24/7
he’ll be MonStar
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on Apr 18, 2008 11:18 AM PDT 0 recs
You render all your other arguments ridiculous
With the “Asian cheerleaders” comment. I’m actually surprised the Powers that Be let it slide.
Not that there’s anything wrong with Asian cheerleaders (indeed, there’s a lot very right with them) but you’re basically saying that the Ws should fire a few black, white, and/or latin cheerleaders because of the color of their skin. Please, do tell me if I’m mischaracterizing your comment.
The other points are all either based on fallacies (#1), overly simplistic (#4), or totally obvious (#2,3,6,7).
by Sleepy Freud on Apr 18, 2008 3:59 PM PDT 0 recs
lol.
if you read the note:
-Lastly, I got a quick and short (funny to some) offseason checklist.
So, yes it was partly a joke, but I am sincere about it on the other hand. Other than that to rebut your point. 20% of the whole Bay Area is Asian and I will tell you now that the Warrior Girls is no where near that percentile.
And lastly I do not believe that point #1 is a fallacy. It is a proven fact that the majority of the time a team has to have a strong inside force to be a championship team. And lastly it is a quick “Checklist”
-Simplistic and Obvious points may be obvious to you, but many people I have argued with oppose or do not agree with those points you have mentioned.
by ejdacanay on
Apr 18, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
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The fallacy in #1
Is not that “the majority of the time a team has to have a strong inside force to be a championship team.” I agree with that 100% (though I’d still say it’s obvious). The fallacy is that there is such an animal roaming around this offseason waiting for the Ws to acquire him. Unless Mullie happens to find Duncan or KG 2.0 bagging groceries at Lucky, it ain’t happening. In the absence of that, the lightning quick 22-year old Latvian who last year was:
• #1 among all NBA players in FG%
• #3 among all NBA players in reb/36 minutes
• #7 among NBA centers in PER
Is a pretty dishy alternative. Just sign the mofo. It’s really not that complicated.
As for the Asian thing, yeah, I’d buy the “proportional representation” thing if Asian women weren’t so hypersexualized in Western culture. As it is, it risks perpetuating some pretty tired stereotypes. But it sounds like you didn’t mean it that badly, so I’m sorry if I misread you.
I can get behind your point #5 as long as (a) said cheerleaders don’t require the firing any non-Asian cheerleaders, and (b) if and when said cheerleaders do get hired, you post some tasteful PIX on GSoM. (Or even non-tasteful…)
Peace.
Sign ^^^^ !!!
by Sleepy Freud on
Apr 18, 2008 6:52 PM PDT
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hot cheerleaders
i don’t care what decent they are as long as they are smokin.
Dub chicks right now are ok. They have room to improve just like the dubz.
by misterjennings on Apr 19, 2008 9:12 AM PDT 0 recs












