Is Kosta the answer? And I'm not talking Perovic...
by Dubs Wise on Apr 22, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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ESPN's NBA lottery gimmick, a Chad Ford creation, has been consistently pairing the Dubs with Arthur for the past week at the #14 spot. No matter how many times you rolled the dice we got paired up with the big man from Kansas every time.
However, if you go check it out today, we're now consistently paired with Kosta Koufos, the freshmen 7 footer out of Ohio state. Koufos just delcared that he's entering the draft, albeit he's not hiring an agent, but it's interesting to see that ESPN's Ford thinks that the Warriors would love to jump on Koufos if he does stay in the draft.
He's an interesting prospect... Odly enough I think he's everything we wished Kosta Perovic was. He's got a great outside shot, a pretty refined post game and for a 7 footer he actually looks athletic. I don't think Perovic has a future on this team, or the NBA of that matter. But this kid might...
For a true freshman he put up pretty solid numbers.
And he had a solid showing at the under 18 European Championships last summer where he came away with the MVP of the tournament. Check out the decent video highlights..
He's definitely the kind of big man Nellie loves... I know many of us want a bruiser inside but would you go for a seven footer with a solid skill set instead?
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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2 kosta's
on 1 bench. forget the championship. we win!
by misterjennings on Apr 22, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not bad....
For his size and skills set…..this would be a decent pick @ #14!
"All I can say is wow!"
by gswfan4life on Apr 22, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im down for kosta
ive watched him play, hes got some solid skills for a big man. nice jumper, post moves, good size. I liked koufos at osu, im not sure how much as a dub though
by Thoang77 on Apr 22, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
back up center
plays similar to a poor man’s Tim Duncan, nice outside shot, uses the bank shot and is a big body.
by shootda3 on Apr 22, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Similar game to Duncan’s. Just afraid he doesn’t have the drive or the aggression needed to bang under the boards and fight for position.
by BobbyLeeHurt on Apr 23, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twin Euro Towers!
One inside and one outside, it at least has novelty! I like his hook. Can he run?
Get Diop or Skinner to bang, Bwright getting run in small ball….why not?
by Wdharma on Apr 22, 2008 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I.
will pass. I don’t think his potential ceiling is high.
by ejdacanay on Apr 22, 2008 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt be
the worst pick. i like him over arthur.
by sam23 on Apr 22, 2008 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
scouting report
from http://duke.scout.com/a.z?s=167&;p=8&c=1&nid=1945118
“Versatile power forward who can play on the perimeter. Was rated as the top big man at the 2005 Hoop Jamboree. Scores it well, plays with intensity and his versatility causes matchup issues at both ends”
-sounds like ideal player for nellie. problem is nellie wont play rookies and will be gone after next year. rebounding was listed as one of his strengths so thats good.
by sam23 on Apr 22, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
way off topic
but today is the 1st day i visited the site since the day before the phoenix debacle. I’m still taking missing the playoffs real hard, I have not watched a single basketball game since the 3rd to the last game. I accidentally caught a glimpse of the Spurs press conference tonight when my direct TV remote couldnt get to the last 0 of the channel 2060 TFC on Direct TV. That is the only piece of basketball information I have gotten in the past 2 weeks or so.
Glad to see everyone is still alive. I wont be posting until draft day, maybe checking GSOM when I find the courage to do so.
This hurts so much, the taste of last year made this doubly hard…
ORACLE is my CHURCH, WARRIORS are MY RELIGION
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Apr 23, 2008 1:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i feel you...
i keep thinkin about how we would go against the lakers… the roracle would be out of control/ the staple center would be bananas!!! so cal vs nor cal!!! what a first round it would be!.... yeah, the pain is still there… i thought id be over it by now but im not, DAMN you baron!!uurgghh… my only hope ist that oakland picks up DMC!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Apr 25, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
i dont like how the new site looks….but thats just me
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Apr 23, 2008 1:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
me neither
call me old fashioned, but i actually liked it better before without all the fancy bells and whistles. i thought i was the only one so i wasnt gonna say anything
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true...
Its a bit “busy”. But I think increasing the font size would go a long way… I feel like my friggin grandfather tryin to read this page!
by in for life on Apr 25, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
impressive..
This is the first time I’ve heard of the guy. From the video, he looks good. I wonder if he’ll have the same confidence shooting the ball in the NBA. A lot of guys look that good overseas and in the D-league, case in point POB. but then play like crap in the NBA. I think he’s a good gamble, but not for the dubs. Seen it too often in the past where a big man’s prospects look good when he’s playing lower level joe’s, then comes to the NBA and finds out that he’s too slow, or too small, or too skinny to make it. I’ll take my chances with a hard-nosed bruiser PF.
by oldskool on Apr 23, 2008 8:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont mean to sound rasist but
WE need to learn to never draft a white player. It just has not worked out. Dunleavy, Murphey, that guy we oicked over kobe, all garbage. The best white amerian is dunleavy. Thats patheltic. So until some other teams produce some good white american players, i’m not buying it.
by montasmob69 on Apr 23, 2008 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
Todd Fuller, Tim Young, Kosta Perovic, Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Jiri Welsch
Need I say more?
by BALLINelli on Apr 23, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
old argument
Bird, Cousy, Barry, West, Walton, Cowen …
AB counts right? isn’t he = half of the conventional defense of Mullin’s drafts?
shall we rattle off all the non-white busts drafted?
by hardcore on Apr 25, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
Look at the 2008 All-Star Roster and tell me we should draft a big white guy.
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by BALLINelli on Apr 29, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many of those guys in your picture
have championship rings?
it’s not how many All Star Games, it’s how they can or can’t elevate a team to greatness – at least from this vantage point … lots of great black players do that, white too – imo color distracts rather than informs personnel decisions while constructing a team that has a chance to win a ring, or become a dynasty
using your logic, you’d pass on the next Larry Bird – as big a mistake as passing on the next Magic
by hardcore on Apr 29, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on
Who’s the best big white guy? Kris Kaman? Pretty patheitc.
Coming out of college Adam Morrison was touted as “the next Larry Legend” but look how that turned out. Conversely, LeBron was touted as “the next Jordan”, which I think is a much more valid comparison.
And if you want to talk championships, there hasn’t been a white, Finals MVP since Bird in 1986.
And 6 of this years All Stars have rings, all black.
www.jettisonhigh.com
by BALLINelli on Apr 30, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also pretty pathetic
To confuse recent precedent with predictivity.
Obviously, the recent crop of white Americans in the NBA has for the most part sucked (especially if you exclude Steve Nash, who’s essentially American). But as hardcore says, it’d be a big mistake, not to mention racist, to pass on the second coming of Bird - or Stockton, or Rick Barry, or McHale, or Cowens, or Havlicek, or Walton (pre-Knee issues), or that Mullin guy - simply because of the color of their skin.
Does whatever mad hoops gene those honkeys had die out recently while I wasn’t paying attention? If not, your “argument” is … unsound, to say the least.
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by Sleepy Freud on Apr 30, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're otally misunderstanding me
The game today, is much different from the game, as it was played, when all those guys played. I’d even go so far to say that MJ wouldn’t be as productive this day in age as he was back then. It has nothing to do with race, actually. Players today, overall, are faster and stronger than those of the past.
You agree that the recent crop of white Americans has sucked. Cool, that’s exactly what I’m saying. I’d even go further in saying that it would be in the best interest of this Warriors team to not take a risk in hoping to draft the next Bird, which is like one in a million.
It be a MUCH smarter decision to go for a strong, athletic, big guy who may or may not develope into a legend, but at least could hold his own in the NBA.
Now, please present your “sound” argument for why we should take a risk on an American (went to college in America) white guy.
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by BALLINelli on May 1, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of what your argument actually is...
You’re advocating drafting/not drafting somebody based on the color of their skin, not their athletic ability, leadership skills, injury history, etc. You’re a racist. Just stop already. We get it. You dislike white basketball players because they’re white.
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 1, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya right
You’re absolutely right. That’s exactly what I’m advocating, Dumb Dub fan in Boston.
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by BALLINelli on May 1, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
It is exactly what you’re advocating. No need to be sheepish about it. Truth be told, I don’t really like white ballers either. At least have the courage of your convictions.
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by Sleepy Freud on May 1, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understood you fine
“The game today is different” argument has nothing to do with your original, racist point.
On your new argument: there is some truth to it, but I don’t think the game today is nearly as different as you think it is. Thanks to better strength training, PEDs, more internatonal competition, etc., players are slightly stronger and fitter than they were in the ‘80s; but any fool can see that Bird, Magic, and Jordan would have been studs in any era. Had they played in this era, with access to the world’s best trainers, I suspect they’d be even more studly than they were in the ‘80s. Any of them would kick the crap out of any of our beloved Warriors, seven days a week and twice on Sunday.
On your “one in a milion” argument: Bird was hardly a crapshoot when he was drafted. As with Jordan and Magic, everyone and their mother knew he was going to be an NBA stud. Auerbach had the foresight to draft him a year before he became eligible; and the Celtics immediately went from crappy team to 60-win team/championship contender, in BIrd’s rookie season.
You’re still arguing that if the next Bird showed up, we should pass on him because of the color of his skin. No amount of backtracking - outside of an honest retraction - can make that argument any less ridiculous.
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by Sleepy Freud on May 1, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
I really don’t know what, in particular, you are condiering “racist”. No where did I say that we shouldn’t draft the next Bird if he came along. Obviously, if there was a studly white dude who was a beast on the boards and dominated the college game, I’d advocate getting him. It would be stupid to pass it up. But, my ORIGINAL argument was pretty much that there aren’t any of those players in this draft, especially considering the position we are drafting.
I’ve provided numbers, analysis, and examples to prove my point and the best that anyone can say is “nuh uh, there’s white Hall of Famers.” We’ll, duh. But there is usually (read: on the whole) a pretty big physical/athletic disparity between white and black guys coming straight out of college. And this lack of athleticism may work in the college game, but not in the pros. See: Adam Morrison, JJ Reddick, etc. And especially considering how fast the Warriors play, we need all the athleticism we can get. (I’ve seen Kuofos play a few times, nothing special, imo) For this reason, I would argue that it is more difficult to evaluate white talent translating into the professional game. So why should we take the risk?
And, going back to my “original” argument, Kuofos seems just like another typical bust, in this respect.
www.jettisonhigh.com
by BALLINelli on May 2, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'oh
My response to this post seems to have been deleted. Hard to believe it was one of the Powers-that-Be since my tone was very conciliatory. Probably just my hitting the wrong key.
Anyway my reponse was this: if your point is that there are no Larry Birds in this upcoming draft — whether or not that was your original point — I totally agree with you. And on Kosta (oh, yeah, the topic of the diary, now I remember): I think I agree with you too.
Ever since Pree mentioned Russell “Black Man” Westbrook as a possibility, he’s the guy I really have my heart set on…
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by Sleepy Freud on May 2, 2008 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you pass on Dirk?
Nelson didn’t
grabbed Nash too … and lot’s of good black players …
tired of your racist perspective, gonna let you have your say and leave it at that …
by hardcore on Apr 30, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is this racist?
You must be one of those overly sensitive types. I’m not denying that there ARE good white players. Just that most of the ones drafted don’t go on to be All-Stars this day in age.
Obviously Dirk and Nash are exceptions, just as there are to every rule. But look at our team’s recent draft history and tell me how many of those white guys went on to do ANYTHING.
But hey, if I’m talking about race, I must be a racist, huh? Quite a stereotype for such a “progressive thinker”.
www.jettisonhigh.com
by BALLINelli on May 1, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
am I racist?
can we all agree that white guys are better shooters and passers? and black guys are generally more athletic? so can we all agree that ballinelli rather have manute bol type over shawn bradley type, if the NBA ever produced such freaks again? haha.. just trying to be funny. everone needs to lighten up. no pun intended.
by oldskool on May 1, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel you...
But prejudice is prejudice is prejudice.
Along BALLINelli’s line of reasoning, one could advocate not drafting black players because Joe Smith wasn’t awesome, or because Ike Diogu sucks, or PoB… seriously guy. Players flame out all the time for whatever reason. Racists are those that jump to judgements about people because of their race. If you’re going to base an opinion on an arbitrary metric, at least provide some statistics that have halfway decent sample sizes.
BALLINelli, how do you feel about drafting skinny players? What about virgins? How about lefties? What about guys with wisdom teeth?
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 1, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
If white players were just as good as black players, on the whole, wouldn’t the NBA be about a 50/50, black/white? Wouldn’t the All Star roster be about 50/50? Wouldn’t the finals MVPs be 50/50?
As of 2004, 77% of the league was black while only 11% were white Americans. And the gap has probably grown since then.
Check out this article from THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER
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by BALLINelli on May 1, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Straw man #500
Again, this has very little to with the idea that the Warriors should avoid drafting white players no matter what the circumstances. Please correct me if this wasn’t your initial point.
The thing is, there is an interesting discussion to be had about why, all other things being equal, most of us would prefer a black player to a white player. Unfortunately, as long as you spend all your time fudging your statements to show how un-racist you are, we’ll only skirt around the real, interesting issues.
Personally, my general preference for black players is probably twofold:
1. Aesthetics. Black players tend to be more toned, athletic, and graceful on the court. Basketball is, in the end, a sport about beauty and grace, not just getting the ball in the hole. It’s for this same reason that I have no interest woman’s basketball. By comparison to the men, the women always look to me like crazy hens rushing around with their heads cut off.
2. Bad-assness. On the whole, the great black players tend to have a defiant, fighting spirit and a “killer instinct” that whites, as the complacent dominant race in our world, tend to lack. Of course there are exceptions to this: Bird and Mullin, to name two, clearly had a killer instinct that could be partly genetic and partly related to the fact that they came from lower-class families of modest means. (Unlike, for example, a petulant little twit like Mike Dunleavy, Jr…)
I would be curious to know if anyone else shares these biases of mine, or if I’m just nuts…
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by Sleepy Freud on May 1, 2008 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pete
I’m the only one old and gray enough around here to bring up Pistol Pete, but for the rest of you who were weaned from your mama’s tit with youtube, try to find some highlights of his old game films. Is he the “exception to the rule” ? He’d STILL be an All Star – today.
Maybe all the other great white players listed elsewhere in these threads are just exceptions too - yes, most of those are a decade or more removed. Sociology, history, and a lot of other economic variables impact who makes it onto NCAA teams, into the draft, and into the NBA.My only point is this- fugetabout the color, and think about the blend. Talent, teamwork, sacrifice – those make teams and greatness in all three makes champions. The big three of the Celts this season all sacrificed their individual games, sublimated their egos, and worked together to become #1 in their division. One wonders how they’d’ve done in the west. Nonetheless, on that team it’s not a color issue, because their not white? Those three, and the rest of that roster are as diverse a group of men as you’d ever find.
To me, the color issue is old news. Look at the 80s teams and you see great blends on the Pistons, Celtics, even Lakers of guys of all races fulfilling their roles, sublimating egos, and and combining talents for rings. The Bulls would not have made the championships without some of their white shooting guards, who likewise would never have sniffed rings without Pippen & MJ.
Does that mean that whites are now only good as SGs? Look at the Spurs, today’s dynasty that gets no respect – look at how that blend of talent succeeds – of all colors. White guards, posts. Black guards, posts. Damn I’m old, but sure am tired of listening to the color crap forever. The beauty is the aesthetics of the game played the “right way” – it’s a team game. If Pete Maravich had had any talent around him in the NBA, if he had conquered his personal demons, wow, that would have been something. For the record, Magic is my favorite player all time, no one had his all around ability to control a game from any position on the floor, to make his teammates better, to continue to improve his craft throughout his career, and I could go on and on about his personality and ability to pull a team together. Too young? Never saw him play? Youtube.
At some point, we gotta get past the color …
by hardcore on May 1, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you didn't tell me that you were old...
Must mean you’re right, then.
Give me some examples from THIS decade. We’re not drafting in the 70’s. You’d be hard pressed to find some other than Dirk and Nash (and only Nash played college ball in the US) who have developed into anything. Show me some legit, young, white rising stars in today’s game.
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by BALLINelli on May 2, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
The guy writes probably the most thoughtful post in the whole thread, and you diss him and come back with your tired “show me some legit white players” straw man.
The question isn’t whether there are any great white Americans in the NBA right now. It’s obvious that there aren’t; no one has said otherwise. The question whether going forward, you would let skin color govern your personnel decisions—all other things, including athleticism, being equal. You have said (or at least implied) you would. It’s a racist stance. Not evil, but certainly racist. Get over it.
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by Sleepy Freud on May 2, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading Comprehension
Go back over the thread and tell me where I said (or implied) “Two players, same skill set, definitely pick the black guy, cause I hate whitey.” I didn’t. Talk about a straw man.
And excuse me for asking for some evidence for all of these assertions you guys are making.
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by BALLINelli on May 2, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
You stole my Hooked-on-Phonics line! I demand royalties.
You obviously implied that you “hate whitey,” since pretty much everyone in this thread took it that way.
The shoe fits, dude. It’s a fine shoe. Stop whimpering and wear it proudly.
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by Sleepy Freud on May 2, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me get my bifocals out ...
First, Respectfully -
I agree the NBA has more black players than white players; I agree that the All Star game had more black players. That doesn’t logically prove black players are better – which you yourself mentioned that Dirk, Nash etc were “exceptions to the rule.” My issue is your assumption of a “rule” – and that should dictate who we don’t draft …
There are physical skills necessary to succeed in basketball that both black and white players share. One reason I bristle when someone suggests racial criteria to choose players is that in suggesting that blacks are inherently better it doesn’t merely do an injustice to whites but the black players as well. Basketball is as mental as physical – to suggest that black players only achieve because they are physically athletic denies the respect they deserve for being as intelligent as well. The number of good black coaches increasing in the league is evidence that their intellectual abilities are being appreciated. There have also been some tremendously athletic white players who were not able to stay up with the NBA level – Rex Chapman comes to mind (sorry for the dated reference, he played at Kentucky if you care …). Point is that suggesting race is the determining criteria and inherently that physical features are the predominant quality is inadequate reasoning. And even this brief comment leaves out scores of other elements – historic and socioeconomic among them – which would apply.
You ask for evidence and ignore every factual reply, trying to take a new tack with every response. You list poor draft choices who were white, I list a couple who weren’t, then you switch to All Star rosters … when I talk about championships you switch to Kaman and Morrison. (By the way, Kaman is at least statistically speaking a very competent NBA post – particularly in the first half of last year and certainly has more than “held his own” to use your criteria, while Morrison has been out injured – hardly enough to gauge his career.) Then, you suggested it’s not the race that matters, but the game has changed – which white guys can’t play presumably.
Actually, I’m not at all “hard pressed” to find athletic white players who would fit into GSW/Nelson’s system – I’d encouraged you to look at the Spurs roster, which you either did and ignored or couldn’t be bothered. If you did, you ignored Manu Ginobli and Fabrico Oberto who, most intelligent basketball observers would likely agree would not only fit in but actually increase our team’s athleticism and talent at their positions respectfully. And I’m not ignoring your claim that no American white players are available – look at Chris Anderson of the Hornets. Yes, he’s had off court issues but every team in the league was lining up to negotiate with him had the Hornets not re-signed him. They are there to be drafted every year. Just because Bellinelli sucked so far for us and Ginobli has rings doesn’t mean a team shouldn’t still draft some Euros. Again, I point to AB as evidence – no one would give him up.
It’s not about drafting a white guy. My choice for a pick around our spot would be Thabeet (UConn) who’s big, good but not great, and a defensive force who could at least back up AB and deepen us inside – allowing Harrington to stay at the PF, backed up by Wright, etc. Thabeet has a knack for blocking shots – is it just his size & jumping ability? I’ve watched him play and you can almost see him sizing up the situation and anticipate the play – he’s mentally gifted in a way that blends with his talent. I can’t quantify it, but my instinct from 20+ years coaching is that he’s gonna be a player in the NBA. It’s not my age that makes me right, it’s my experience that informs my perspective.
It is about building the best blend of talent regardless of color. You mentioned LJ & MJ, ask Jordan about his Bulls teams and he’ll tell you they couldn’t have won rings without the Wennington’s, Kerr’s, etc. He’s on record on that. But it wasn’t cause they were white obviously, their skills complimented Pippen & Jordan. Same with Duncan & Parker without Ginobli, or Jackson who’d earned a ring in Texas. Cleveland needs a better blend of talent around James, wonder if they’d want Anderson or Kaman, or Ginobli?
Getting stiff now, gotta get up and look for my cane …
by hardcore on May 2, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
“We should draft black players because of aesthetics.”
And you call me the racist?
You say black players are more “toned, athletic, and graceful.” Gee, doesn’t that sound like EXACTLY what the Warriors need for their fast paced style of play? Why would we want to draft someone who’s not?
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by BALLINelli on May 2, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Pay attention.
First of all, the statement you quoted is not what I said.
Secondly, there is no “the racist” or “the non-racist” in this debate. I totally admitted that I’m racist. Indeed, that was the whole point of that post.
You, on the other hand, keep trying to throw away a shoe that everyone can see fits you perfectly. Say it loud and say it proud: I am racist.
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by Sleepy Freud on May 2, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay!!!! Anybody seen Avenue Q?
“Everyone’s a little bit racist sometimes”
“The internet is for porn”
Just deal with it. The sooner we all admit to our deficiencies the better off we’ll all be.
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 2, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
You can see porn on the internets? Free? Link?
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by Sleepy Freud on May 2, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a wonderful song if you haven't heard it...
Both of them are…
Here’s a World of Warcraft remake of the porn song:
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645
Here’s a youtube clip of the racist song:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-tobS1nl0
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 2, 2008 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
montasmob69...you're an idiot
I am bummed to see Koufos go as a big Buckey fan…they had an opportunity to start 2 seven footers next year and build on a decent year in 07/08…I wishi more college kids would hang around and care about winning the NCAA championships (and that education thing).
You have to select this guy if he is available because he has some talent, and if we dont see what we need in him he is great trade material
by warriorsvictim on Apr 23, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Koufos
Is worth a look. What about trading for a late first rounder as well and grabbing the physical Joey Dorsey?
by goldenstatefan on Apr 23, 2008 10:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
trade down wouldnt be a bad idea
but why doesnt tyler hansborough get any love around here? there might not be a better rebounder in the draft. he plays hard every night. he’s athletic enough to play in nellie’s system. sure he doesnt have as high a ceiling as some of the other guys but i think he could really come in and contribute right away. i could see wright/psycho t being a really nice 4 combo for a long time. of course montasmob69 would say its a horrible idea because he’s white and american.
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
he didnt even declare silly
him and Kevin Love have no potential ceiling. they wont get any better.
by ejdacanay on Apr 24, 2008 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know he hasnt declared
and he might not. but if he does he might be a good option as a later 1st round pick. he has a low ceiling sure, but a higher floor than most of these guys too. his rebounding and hustle would be nice. im not saying he’ll be a stud but he will be a nice rotation player in the nba. im not a k-love supporter so dont lump me in there. i just think if we need a rebounder, why not grab a guy who we know will be a good rebounder?
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is.
He just committed to UNC again. There are so many other rebounders out there Dorsey being one of them. I rather have a guy who has an adequete floor, and has a higher potential. I saw that in Andrew Bynum (DeAndre Jordan this year) and in a year or two he will be a true stud.
But he will be a 2nd rounder (Psycho). But theres a couple 2nd rounders that I like better.
by ejdacanay on Apr 25, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw he commited to go back,
im wasnt saying psycho at 14, he doesnt have the ceiling to warrant that, but in a trade back scenario. i dont think he’ll be a 2nd rounder though, i think a contender will swoop him up late in the first and he’ll be an immediate rotation guy and be a good 3rd or 4th big for a long time.
i havent made my mind up about jordan…i was not impressed watching him in games, then i watched some clips and loved him, then i saw the POB comparisons and was scared off again. let me know why you dont think he’ll be a bust, i really am curious about him.
by sam23 on Apr 25, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a UNC fan
but I’m not a big fan of Tyler Hansbrough. I watched probably half of the UNC games during the season. One thing that stood out to me was a few games into the season, the announcer said Hansbrough only had 3 assists on the year. Once the ball goes into him it never comes out; unless he gets the ball 25 feet from the basket or gets quadruple teamed he is putting it up. The other thing is that he gets virtually no blocks. He is listed at 6’9 (I think) and rumored to be shorter and unathletic, and he is a nonfactor on defense even in college.
Hansbrough gets his points by squirming around and flipping up an ugly “jumper” in the post; he doesn’t really have any moves. Often he gets fouled in the process. The problem is in the NBA that silly looking shot won’t go in against Tim Duncan. He won’t get calls either, because he gets no respect from the refs (as opposed to his player of the year status in college) Also during the first Duke game Coach K sent two or three defenders at him (Duke is not known for interior d) and told them to put their hands up without jumping. Of course Hansbrough wouldn’t pass out and he didn’t get any calls so he struggled mightily and UNC lost that game.
Bottom line is since he is primarily an offensive player and his offense won’t work so well in the pros, Hansbrough would not be a good pro player.
by antihero on Apr 26, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kosta Squared?
I say pass on Kosta Koufos and Kosta Perovic.
The Dubs will need some luck to get the #10-13 pick. Its all up to those damn little lottery balls though. I say that if we do luck out and get at best the #10 pick we should pick up in order IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE:
1. De Andre Jordan
2. Kevin Love
3. Joey Dorsey
4. JaVale McGee
5. Nathan Jawai
I have a feeling both De Andre Jordan and Kevin Love will be gone by the time the Dubs pick comes around. With that said our pick with out even the slightest hesitation should be …......JOEY DORSEY!
by gabezgsw on Apr 23, 2008 10:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I might be wrong
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that the lottery balls are only for the top 3 pics – everyone else falls into their place (4 -14) if they don’t get the ball. That being said, we could be 1,2,3 or 14th in the draft
by RogiSF2000 on Apr 23, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
The lottery used to be for all positions, but starting last year it’s only for 1-3.
by Psion on Apr 23, 2008 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting last year?
Dude, you’re 21 years off. The #1-3 system has been in place since 1987.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft_Lottery
RogiSF has it right: we’re either #1,2,3 or 14. We can’t drop any lower than 14, since you can’t get leapfrogged when you’re last on-playoff seed. Little things to be thankful for…
Sign ^^^^ !!!
by Sleepy Freud on Apr 24, 2008 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
for the good read, Sleepy. There was alot I didn’t know about the Lottery.
by Psion on Apr 25, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lottery system is fantastic (I'm a Blazer fan).
Tough season for you guys obviously. Hopefully both the Warriors and Blazers can knock Denver & Dallas out of the playoff spots next year.
Not a great draft for your team if you need another big. I would like Arthur out of Kansas for your team more than Koufos. The one time I watched Koufos this year he was nearly invisible.
Many of the Blazer fans at Blazer’s Edge want Westbrook out of UCLA and they compare him to your own Monta Ellis. I want to find a way to move up to grab Bayless to play next to Roy.
Happy offseason to you all…. you have good community here.
by tweener on Apr 28, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like the other guy said the lottery doesnt work that way
and dorsey in the first round?! are you kidding? the guy is tough, but not very skilled. ive never seen a college player get so much hype from just being intimidating looking. the guy is a good college rebounder and defensive player but im not sure it will translate at all to the nba and he’s a foul machine. he’d be a nice 2nd round pick but why the obsession around here? psycho t is a better player who fills the roles…and he always plays hard.
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The warriors suck at drafting big men. In the last 17 years Beans is the only big man that turned out to be good. You can’t count C-Webb,Jamison, or Wright cause they were draft day trades even if they didnt play a minute with those teams. Marc Jackson was good the one year and a half when he was with the warriors and then he sucked after. Chris Gatling was alright.
by B.J. Armstrong on Apr 23, 2008 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you cant count
wright, c-webb, and jamison? why? big men are difficult for any team to draft. sure things like dwight howard and tim duncan dont come along very often and when they do they are gone in the top 2-3 picks. you want to talk about a team who has had a rough time drafting big men talk to seattle fans.
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cause the warriors didn’t draft them. They traded for them. On there rookie cards on there internet boards it shows who the the warriors actually drafted. Seattle did draft S.Kemp. He was great allstar with them but after he left he really sucked. At least a big man with seattle it made to the allstar game while playing with seattle.
by B.J. Armstrong on Apr 24, 2008 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you dont credit
the warriors for recognizing the talents of those guys on draft day and moving up to get them? that doesnt seem logical to me. im not saying our draft track record is great but im not sure its much worse than par for the course compared to the rest of the nba when it comes to big men. kemp was a stud but he was quite a while ago. but teams like new york, chicago and sacramento all come to mind as teams who havent had much success drafting bigs lately either. in the absence of a duncan/d. howard type, its pretty much a crapshoot drafting bigs.
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do credit the warriors trading to get those guys but not Drafting them. That is what i have been talking about drafting not trading. New York drafted D.Lee and he has been really good. C.Frye was a also a alright player in his 2yrs there before getting traded.Chicago drafted E.Brand he was also good with while he was there and I’m not sure if I’m rite I think they drafted Artest and he’s a 3 or a 4. You got me on the kings. R. Lewis was 3 or a 4 and he was a great player for the sonics.
by B.J. Armstrong on Apr 25, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
draft day trades
they should get the credit for draft day trades since in all cases they forfeited their own draft picks to land those guys.
by sam23 on Apr 25, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give the warriors all the credit in the world for TRADING to get the big men they wanted in past drafts. Go warriors!!!
by B.J. Armstrong on Apr 25, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
asdf
I’m not sure I really see the point in drafting ANOTHER big man. We have Beans who is going to get a big extension, Harrington who’s going to be making 9MIL this year, the other Kosta who we’re stuck with for 2 more years, BWright who should be seeing significant playing time next year and possibly the re-signing of Croshere. I’m just not sure drafting Kosta is the ideal pick for the Warriors, especially considering we’re going to be thin at the G position with the departure of FA’s.
I think the ideal pick for the Warriors hinges on a few things and that’s does BD opt out, which FA’s we retain and any draft day trades we might make. I think the smart rout would be to draft either a PG or a defensive minded perimeter player, since those were 2 glaring holes the Warriors had this year. I think we could find a beast on the boards a la Milsap with our 2nd round pick.
The only way I can see us drafting Kosta is if we’re able to get rid of Harrington or the other Kosta, which in all likely hood will be tough to do.
Stephen Jackson catches on the wing and faces up against Vujacic. When Jax looks down and sees Vujacic, his eyes light up. He pulls out his nine, screams "Thug Life" and empties the clip, then drives in for a basically uncontested layup.
by J Rich 4 MVP on Apr 23, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I don’t think we can, nor should we expect the draft to solve our problems this year… There’s probably not an immediate impact type player in the draft at the position we’re probably gonna be in. Plus, for the first time in a long time we currently have enough young talented players. Anymore will just clog the bench, which should instead be stocked with skilled roll players.
Depth at all positions is what we need, not youth. I think serious consideration should be given to trading the pick if it could be used to get a skilled role player at the Point or PF.
by in for life on Apr 25, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol @ your signature quote.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Apr 26, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I jst saying
As good as this guy may be, i’d much rather draft jordan or dorsey.
by montasmob69 on Apr 23, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dorsey again?
the first round? thats ridiculous. and im a jordan fan, but he is eerily similar to POB. why do you like dorsey over hansborough? what does he do better, or is it just because psycho t is white?
by sam23 on Apr 24, 2008 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fill the PF position...
with muscle. I’m sure you heard of Al Horford and Carl Landry from last years draft. Dorsey is just as strong.
by oldskool on Apr 25, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Truth of the Matter
These are the 7 footers who have been recently drafted past #14:
2007: Jason Smith, Fesenko, Barac, Marc Gasol, Aaron Gray
2006: Kosta Perovic, Ryan Hollins, Samb
2005: Johan Petro, Mile Ilic, Andreskevicius, Gortat
2004: Podkolzine, David Harrison, Ramos, Ha Seung-Jin, Karaulov
I’ve never even heard of half the people on that list.
Conclusion: Any 7 footer past #14 definitely is not worth a damn, because if they were worth a damn they’d have been taken by the time we get to pick. Two 7foot Kosta’s sitting at the end of our bench sharing ~$5mil/yr of our payroll are not going to help.
by jlagace on Apr 24, 2008 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
To add to it
There are many other pressing needs other than a Center:
1) A legit backup PG that wasn’t passed up on by every single team in the NBA draft (twice, Sorry CJ Watson.)
2) A legit backup SG that wasn’t passed up on by every single team in the NBA draft (twice, Sorry Kelenna Azubuike.)
3) A legit backup SF who will have an at least consistent NBA career (sorry Matt Barnes.)
Basically, we filled our bench with D-Leaguers (Watson, Azubuike) , journeymen (Barnes), wash-ups (Croshere, Webber, Hudson), and projects (Wright, Belinelli, Perovic, O’Bryant). In a way, we got extremely lucky with our bench production, albeit extremely lacking. It’s no wonder why our starters got burned out, we had no legit NBA backups (besides Pietrus, who pouted and disappeared for most of the season.)
For this draft, I just want the Warriors to draft a typical, went-to-US-college, fits-an-NBA-position, near-ready-NBA-body that we can put in for 10 minutes per game and get at least a little production out of. No more rolling the dice looking for that diamond-in-the-rough that nobody’s heard of before. No need to be exotic, let’s just draft some role players.
by jlagace on Apr 24, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Whow
you should be given a job as a scout for the Warriors since it is so easy just to pick a “went to US college” player who would fit nicely with the team.
FACT: for example Slovenia has five NBA players, which means there is one NBA player on every 400 000 people(approximately) since number of population in Slovenia is 1 987 971 inhabitants. How many Americans play in NBA and what is the % of the players if you compare it to the whole population?
The quick math in my head tells me that the numbers are slightly better in favour of USA(comparing to Slovenia),...but hey guess what the NBA IS an USA b-ball league and not Slovenian league
Think first before you write.
by buky on Apr 25, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
Calm down. All I’m saying is that we need to start drafting players that are more of a sure thing, a known quantity. When you draft so many international/HS players you really don’t know what you’re getting each time, it’s a crapshoot. The size, strength, and speed of the D1 college game is alot different from the international game. Take note that I’m not saying the level of skill is different, the level of athleticism is. Just look at Belinelli, Perovic, even Biedrins to some extent. They can’t guard anyone in the NBA just because of the huge difference in athleticism.
by jlagace on Apr 25, 2008 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dorsey vs Hansborough
Are you kidding. in the nba, for what the WARRIORS need, there is no question. Dorsey is a defensive freak. Good luck backing him down. He is fast(really really fast), strong, and is an ideal backup for beans. He is not a high projection because of his foul issues, average offense(but would get 10 points a game in 25 minutes), and his horrible free throw shooting. but honestly, we don’t need an offensive center. Fouls are no prolem because we want him as a back up, and the more he gets fouled, the quicker we are in the bonus. Hansborough is a guy who has good work ethics and works really hard. But heres some things you should know. He is not a 5 by anymeans. He is only an average defender. But the real reason hansborough won’t do well is because he plays physical. But he is not that strong himself. in the NBA, he will be undersized, even for a 4, and will not be able to match others game. Oh yeah, and he’s white also. sorry, couldn’t help myself. Anyways, i’d love to see us get dorsey because he’s a perfect fit, or jordan because of his talent. I don’t care his he plays like POB. He is pretty good. when you see him play, he plays amaing defense and puts on dunk shows for the fans before games. Please excuse my poor spelling
by montasmob69 on Apr 24, 2008 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A few more comments
First of all, how dare you insult Buike. HE IS THE MAN! So strong, fast, good shooter. So don’t mess with him. Watson has so much potential with the 3-ball. Since Monta was drafted, we have done pretty well. Sure POB has not been that could, but everyone else has been and even POB has some good potential. Draft a center and pick up 2 free agent bench players. We should between powe, posey, baas, milsapp, and jones. All 3-4 who are very good rebounders and psey and jones are lights out from 3-point range. so resign our players, maybe trade harrington for something, draft a center, and sign two of those five players and we will win 52 games, and most of them will not be as ugly as the once this year. GO WARRIORS
by montasmob69 on Apr 24, 2008 11:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can feel it!
I can feel the Dorsey Movement growing with each passing day. I’m telling you-Dorsey is the man! Don’t be fooled by twiggy 6’8” 220 lbs boys when you can have a Tiger, a Memphis Tiger at that. A man beast should I say.
Go Dubs!
by gabezgsw on Apr 25, 2008 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why only advocate Dorsey, Gabe?
Wouldn’t ANY blue chip guy fit the bill for you? Why not go with guys that are big, strong, can rebound and have some offensive game?
Richard Hendrix, JJ Hickson, DJ White, DeVon Hardin, Robin Lopez, or Alex Ajinca?
They’re all big, and are above-average to good defenders and rebounders. I would infact rate Dorsey lower than all these guys.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on Apr 25, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Beef
Is what Mullin has not effectively done in the draft and that’s find guys that are tough SOBs and can play but may not conform to Nellie’s length fetish.
I was very high on Paul Milsap coming out of college. Everything he did reflected a high level of production. From his career stats to stand out play bordering on dominating at the camps, he represented a level of consistency that I found easy to recognize. Mullin drafted two seven-foot-stiffs over a proven baller with game like Milsap. He wasn’t alone though, a lot of other GMs passed on him as well.
Then there’s Carl Landry—almost an exact clone of Milsap in terms of career production and camp play. Brandon Bass as well. I clocked all three guys coming out and cannot for the life of me figure out why Mullin continues to pass on blue-collar-bangers that are slightly undersized?
Loved the Lasme pick, but he dissolved into the Mbenga-Webber ethers.
Is it Mullin or Nellie that won’t pick up a guy like Milsap, Bass or Landry?
In this draft there are three candidates that fill the bill:
1) Richard Hendrix—Bulit like Julius Peppers
2) JJ Hickson—Less athletic than Dorsey but more skilled
3) Joey Dorsey—A bigger, more athletic version of Larry Smith.
I think all three will be gone by The Dubs second pick. They will however have a shot at Nathan Jawal, a 6’10 270lber out of Australia. I’d take a flyer on him.
by SlamDharma on Apr 25, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And I could tell that PoB was gonna suck
Jordan was gonna be the best ever, the stock market was gonna crash in 1987, 1999, and 2007.
“Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes”
Why did Lasme flame out? Because he wasn’t good enough.
My fearless predictions for the coming draft:
KLove will suck, Richard Hendrix will suck at basketball but become a beast of a TE in the NFL (cuz he’s built like Julius Peppers), and a draft pick between 20-30 to be named later will be awesome, and I’ll say “I told you so” very, very loudly.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Apr 30, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh....
This one. Jeez… I don’t know where to begin, so I’ll keep it short. We’ll revisit this next year when JJ Hickson and Richard Hendrix are out of the league and you’re touting your draft knowledge by saying “see!!! Joey Dorsey!!! I picked him!!!” while ignoring the fact that in a real draft, you can only choose one and you won’t always be right.
I was high on Leon Powe coming out of college, and I hated Dunleavy. I also liked Monta and hated Taft. I’m awesome.
Everybody passed on “blue collar bangers”, not just Mullin.
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 1, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft talk :)
Love this stuff ..
Anyways, I’ve heard that Russell Westbrook is the guy to watch. If he slides,Warriors would like him.
I’m a fan of Arthur. And depending on where they think BWright is at, I’d take a flyer on Robin Lopez (hey .. he’ll be productive as an energy guy).
In any case, I don’t foresee Harrington staying. It would make sense to move him for two swingmen, no?
by pree on Apr 27, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Little crumbs from Pree...I love it.
Concerning Westbrook…If he slides. Does that mean out to 14, or if he slides past a certain point in the lottery to trade up and nab him?
I can see what’s to like, but wouldn’t that make our backcourt extremely small? Would he backup Monta, or backup Baron? Or both?
I think Harrington’s gone too. I’m curious to see what his value is though. We need depth and bodies for sure.
I have this feeling that the Warriors won’t draft big again this summer. They’ve whiffed way too many times the past couple of years. I think Mullin goes for the Best Player Available which could be Westbrook, Galinari, Greene (I’m intrigued), or Budinger. I think they have to give Brandan the first crack at filling in at the 4. They could use a backup center, but I think there’s a lot more value at the SF position. We need a backup to Jackson as well as a successor.
I think we have a modest draft and take Greene or Budinger, and in the second I’d love to grab a wing defender, maybe a guy like Kyle Weaver could fall to us. Bill Walker has the potential to play very good defense. Or we could go for that banger type 4 in JJ Hickson, DJ White, Richard Hendrix, or DeVon Hardin.
I’d also love to see Mullin pull a Pritchard and try and buy a draft pick. Utah might trade out of their slot because they are near the tax and still have to pay Paul Milsapp and eventually pay Deron Williams. They already have a lot of young players, so maybe they trade their 08’ pick for cash or future picks. Worth a call at least. At #23 overall, if Brandon Rush is there, I’d nab him to play wing defense and a spot up 3pt shooter. Then we can go big in the second round.
Basically this stems from my reasoning that the Warriors do not plan on paying Baron Davis…ever. Plus i think Nellie realizes that he can’t turn this team into a contender overnight (stings from not getting KG), so he retires after next season (or by midseason), and sets the Warriors up in their transition period from BD and Jax to Monta, Andris and Brandan.
Plus plus…Baron expires after next season as does Foyle’s 6.4 Million dollars. That’d give us significant amount of cap space for the summer of 09’, or 10’ (The FA’s available in 09’ are mediocre at best, while as early as 2010, the likes of LeBron, Wade and Bosh can opt out). If we can trade Al for shorter contract(s), it’d just add more money to the pot.
Well, that’s just my input.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on Apr 29, 2008 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Westbrook ..
I have almost no doubt that Mullin will go BPA. There are a lot of big men that are going to be available, but that middle section the Warriors are at isn’t the best spot. Considering the massive turnover, the team just needs to acquire talent.
I’d be worried about Monta leaving .. I just have a bad feeling about it.
by pree on Apr 29, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be crestfallen if we let Monta walk.
Thanks again Pree.
If/When Nellie retires, is he done with basketball forever, or could he stay on as a special consultant like Jerry West, Pat Riley and Larry Brown have done in the past?
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on Apr 29, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO, THIS WOULD NOT BE A SMART PICK, I'M SERIOUS.
Let’s face it, European big men are not known to be great post up players. That experiment should be over by now. What the Warriors need is a guy with potential to become Boozer/David West/Brand-type player. This greek kid looks more comfortable shooting jumpers, which is exactly what the W’s don’t need. Enough with the soft/finess/skill big men that cannot rebound or finish strong undert he basket. It’s about time W’s add a low post big men to break that zone defense.
by buzzer beater on Apr 28, 2008 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dubs Fan In Boston
Are you all dismissive assholes that live in Boston, or is that just unique personality trait you inherited from your parents?
by SlamDharma on Apr 30, 2008 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if you want to start a flame war
the least you could do is reply directly to his comment rather than hide it down here
have fun, should be fun to watch
by hardcore on Apr 30, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know what comment you're referring to...
But I’m usually pretty dismissive of folks who make blanket assertions and refuse to back off them when exposed to reason… let me know what comment(s) have offended you, and I’ll extrapolate if I feel like it.
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 1, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flame War
I’m not an active poster here so my retort to this jerk came a little bit lower than I would have liked.
I just listed three guys in my post that I liked and guys in the past that I had followed and made some pretty accurate picks on. I normally post on another board and my record in stating who I wanted pre-draft speaks for itself.
I’m not always right—no GM professional or otherwise is, but my formula for picking mid-size bigs has been pretty accurate.
I was pretty fair in my assesment and even mentioned your homo-erotic fetish object, Joey Dorsey,
How bad could my predictions have been?
I’ll wager you a gentlemans bet, bragging rights that Hendrix goes higher than Dorsey.
I could care less about a flame war with you.
I’ll quote Tom Berenger/aka Barnes from Platoon.
’”Oh, you wanna kick ass. Yeah. Well, here I am, all by my lonesome. And there ain’t nobody gonna know. Six of you boys against me. Kill me. Huh. I shit on all of you.”
by SlamDharma on May 18, 2008 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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