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What's so special about Keith Smart?

So,

 

Being from Boston and all, I don't get to see lots of games.  What's with all the Keith Smart love?  Does he step in for Nelly in huddles?  Does he give superb postgame press conferences?

What I'm getting at is "Why are so many people pining for Smart?"

From what I can tell from his history (http://www.nba.com/coachfile/keith_smart/index.html)

He coached the Domican Rep. to a 6-5 record.

He compiled an 85-83 CBA coaching record

He coached the Cavs to 9-31.  Granted, it was a mid-season coaching change to a pre-LeBron Cavs team...

He currently works "closely with players on individual skill development and game strategy"

 

What exactly about this guy screams "Next great coach!!!"?

I hear people talk about how he's going to come in and make the team "defensive-minded without losing that Nellie edge".  Do you get this from watching Avery Johnson in Dallas?  Where does this come from?  Is this just the same old starter bashing attitude that leads people to believe that Steven Jackson and Beans suck and Buike, PoB, Brandon Wright, and Belinelli are saviors?  I don't get it.  Please somebody explain this to me.

Why is Keith Smart going to be an awesome coach?  Why do people want to dump the guy who singlehandedly turned this team around?  Why do you want to dump the ONLY coach to coach the Warriors to the playoffs in the last 20 years?

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you see Keith Smart took over when Nelson was ejected from game 2 of the Rockets game with like a deficit of 10 points. He got us a win in Hou so that was pretty good.

by saintdee on Apr 25, 2008 4:55 PM PDT   0 recs

On TK's blog he wrote

Smart ran huddles, talked to the players after the game, and kind of bridged the gap between Nellie and the players.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Apr 25, 2008 4:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Basically...

People just want Nellie without actually having Nellie. I think the perception is that Keith Smart will be Nellie withouth the bad stuff. They think he’ll run the ballclub exactly the way it is now except with better D and better utilization of young talent. There’s a lot of assuming going on here since Smart is really not a proven coach, but it think that’s it in a nutshell.

I pray i never have to use a gun again.

by ssmokinjoe on Apr 25, 2008 10:05 PM PDT   0 recs

you nailed it

i was thinking the same thing, i just thought i was missing something. like you and hardcore i think in most cases its backup qb syndrome. i dont really think smart will be a bad coach, i just dont see how we can expect that he’ll be better than nellie.

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2008 12:02 AM PDT   0 recs

Avery Johnson

Became a great coach by being Nellie’s assistant, and then taking over for him in some games. I feel that will happen this year. that there’s a chance that Nellie will stay one more year, but only coach 60-70 games this season, so that Smart can grow into the role. If not, he will undoubtedly handle many situations and timeouts during games.

by bradyk2 on Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT   0 recs

Avery...

became a great coach? Really?? Did I miss something?

by in for life on Apr 28, 2008 9:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I've spoken to him a bunch of times ..

Coach Smart is a solid coach because he’s tremendously good at relationship building. One of his strengths, as far as what I saw in the locker room and at practices, was his ability to make players who are struggling feel better about themselves.

Case in point – Marco Belinelli just wasn’t getting the job done and there was a night where he just went into the locker room and slumped into his chair. Granted, he’s not exactly a loud guy that calls attention onto himself, but the body language was really bad for a young kid that wants to make it in this league. Smart made it a point to walk over and say ‘Keep your chin up, son’ .. I don’t think Marco understood the idiom, but he knew what ‘son’ meant and that was enough to make him feel better. Marco didn’t address the media that night, but I kept an eye on how Smart handles the kid getting down on himself and he’s just really supportive – towards the latter half of the season, Marco wasn’t ever like that despite NOT getting any PT.

I’m not saying Smart is the gestalt here, but he’s done this kind of thing with every player. He’s sort of the good cop to Nellie’s bad cop and sometimes NBA players respond a little bit better to that. There’s no doubt that Nellie is a ‘players coach’, but he takes shots at his guys a lot (both as jokes and in seriouesness) which I think Smart is going to be better about.

If nothing else, I’d like to see Smart with a head coaching job just so we can get some new blood into the mix of NBA coaches. Their brotherhood of retreads is starting to really get on my nerves – granted, the new blood fails often (Sam Vincent, Sam Mitchell). Hopefully, teams are going to start hiring guys that have proven they can a) keep a team together and b) don’t say stupid things (I love the story of Sam Mitchell telling his team to contain Andrew Bynum in a pre-game talk and Bosh had to tell him that Bynum was injured for the past few months).

by pree on Apr 27, 2008 10:51 AM PDT   0 recs

Thanks!

Though, I’m a little skeptical about using a “good cop” as a head coach. Seems like his style is more useful in an assistant role. But maybe that’s just what our volatile guys need.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Apr 30, 2008 9:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

D'Antoni

rumors are starting to make rounds that after SA brushes Phx aside, he may be on his way out – if ever there was a more perfect coach to replace Nelson, D’Antoni would be it

With all due respect to KSmart, his role as an assistant is to pick up the back end of the bench, all assistant coaches do that – it’s an assumed part of the position. If D’Antoni were not available, and GS were rebuilding, then sure give Smart the shot.

But if you have a choice between the two and want to get to the post season the choice is clear. The NBA is littered with “new blood” in the head chairs, just look around Char, Milw, etc. The interesting question is if D’Antoni is available this summer, does GS grab him even though they picked up Nelson’s option? Probably not, but maybe Nelson takes the cushy front office job promised … will be an interesting summer

by hardcore on Apr 27, 2008 12:09 PM PDT   0 recs

ewww

d’antoni who couldnt take his star ladden team anywhere. No thanks.

by saintdee on Apr 27, 2008 5:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No Hill, over the hill Shaq

that star-laden lineup is all past prime, ours is just coming into theirs … not sure Kerr didn’t inadvertently (?) set him up for this with that trade … the way he used Amare, Nash, Marion, Barbosa et al was beautiful – the kind of hoop that lots of GSoMers seem to love, run&gun&fun … besides they got pretty deep into the WC Finals just last year – further than any of our teams, even under the Don … What other coach out there has proven credentials in an uptempo style suited for our roster and who is most likely to be able to handle our “stars”? Ya, I’ll take D’Antoni until someone brings up a better option – got one?

by hardcore on Apr 27, 2008 9:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yes I do

it’s called Don Nelson.

D’Antoni is way overated with the team that he inherited. You talk about the Suns lineup as over the hill but what the hell is Amare? Barbosa, Bell and Diaw are scrubs to you too right?

Pay attention to the current series and you will see that he is getting straight out-coached by Pop.

Yes he has gone further than Nelson. But you honestly think Nelson wouldn’t be able to reach WC Finals if he coached the Suns?

by misterjennings on Apr 28, 2008 2:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

in nelson we trust

I’ve consistently advocated Nelson & Baron were our best pair for one more year, after which all bets are off – if anyone has gone overboard to defend Nelson around GSoM since his return, it’s been me (under the old moniker of JB) ... that said, I thought the question was IF not Nelson, who?

To which I maintain D’Antoni would be our best option (and much more seasoned than KSmart) if we could lure him here to manage the big names (if not big stars) on our roster while developing our young talent (AB, KAz, Monta & BWright) ala the Suns younger guns Amare, Barbosa etc. The perennial All Stars on the Suns – Nash, Hill, & Shaq ARE past their prime. And I AGREE with you about B, B, & Diaw being developed under D’Antoni – so why wouldn’t you want him here? In fact, if D’Antoni were available, and willing, we should consider moving Nelson only one year early to secure a coach of D’Antoni’s caliber for the next several.

I have been paying attention to the SA series (I’m also the only one around here who actually likes the Spurs style it seems). Pop’s got a deeper bench, healthier players, a better post player, a lock-down (albeit dirty) defensive stalwart, and championship experience both on the floor and on the bench, so I’d expect SA to handle the Suns. Even if Nelson were coaching Nash & Co. what would he do differently? go smaller?? Sometimes coaches can tip the scale (Mavs series ‘07) but ordinarily the better team on the floor wins. If not Nelson, D’Antoni would be the best fit for our needs in both the near and long term future.

by hardcore on Apr 28, 2008 8:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

To add to this...

The games were all close. If Tim Duncan (TIM DUNCAN!!!) doesn’t make a 3 pointer towards the end of game 1, it’s a different ball game. And that’s after Finley already made one… if either one of those doesn’t fall, we’re looking at a completely different situation. Yeah, yeah, “but they did fall”. Whatever, I’d be OK with D’Antoni. At least he wouldn’t completely blow up the style of play.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Apr 30, 2008 9:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If D'Antoni is fired

He has a job in Toronto waiting for him.

by pree on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

In a word

He’s not Nellie. Ok, in all seriousness, I’ve been down on Nellie for all the reasons we know too well. But in this upcoming transiition year (what will happen with Baron) it might be better to have Nellie as the coach. My bottom line issue with Nelson is whether he has the capacity and or any desire to change his MO because unless Mulson pulls off an awesome trade and or Cohan goes in to the luxury tax atmosphere, the core of our team will be the same as last season. And we know what that means—no rebounding, the love of threes, and small ball. Need I point out what is happening to Denver would have happened to us without Bynum.

Let’s put it this way. If Nelson pulls one of his mo money stunts or plays hard to get, say aloha and good luck. Otherwise, let’s see what will happen next season because 09-10 will be a much better season for us at leasst financially. Foyle’s salary will mostly be off the books and Harrington and Jax will have expiring contracts unless they are extended. And we will either have $18M of new money if Baron is not extended or resigned. And if i remember correctly, there will be a lot of good FA available.

CWebb is undoubtedly the answer but I forgot the question.

by commish on Apr 27, 2008 2:23 PM PDT   0 recs

I've been...

amazed over the last month how many people here are ready to dispense with Nellie. He got more out of this team than any other coach in the league could have. Period.

This team is flawed. Its young. Its leaders were NBA castaways before Nellie took them on. What gives here?? Is it really all because Brandon Wright didn’t get a lot of minutes? Nellie said recently that he would play the devil himself if he thought it would help win. He’s also said recently that the young guys would be ready for more time next year.

I don’t think we can blame Nellie for the team’s lack of fire down the stretch. Maybe it had something to do with the heavy minutes, but again, I really believe it was the best chance to win. This team lacked reliable depth. End of story. However, the heavy minutes don’t explain the team never showing the defensive intensity they had in they playoffs last year. That was truly impressive. The heavy minutes also don’t explain the terible shooting in the last few weeks. Nor do they excuse Baron for being on cruise control in moments when the team needed him. Or Matt Barnes and Pietrus disappearing for an entire season…

I had the time of my life following this team the last 2 years and I wouldn’t change anything. Nellie has put this team back on the NBA map and its only going to get better from here, even if he comes back next year!

by in for life on Apr 28, 2008 9:59 PM PDT   0 recs

What gives here??

The missing ingredient is Jason Richardson, the players saw how the team sold him out and that spoiled the chemistry

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 29, 2008 10:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Soo...

why is that a reason to get rid of Nellie? He’s the only one who said publicly that they were a better team with J Rich, is he wrong about that too?

by in for life on Apr 29, 2008 7:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So....

The loss of JRich is why we lost to Minny, Indiana, etc.? The loss of JRich caused the players to “try less”? The loss of JRich is what caused Baron and Jack to jack up 3s?

I’m not buying it. I think that the season was so tough and so close throughout that Nelly was blinded by the short term picture of winning “this game” instead of looking at the season as a whole. Thus, he played the starters a bit much. Plus, the bench wasn’t exactly stellar (Buike was good but inconsistent, MP complaining, Barnes sucking, BWright, Kosta, and Belinelli too green, Cro injured, Webber/THud/DJ useless, PoB useless).

Nelly did a fine job with what he had. Let the young guys grow up a bit more, resign some guys. If a GOOD trade opportunity arises, go for it. Don’t do something radical and stupid just for the sake of doing something radical.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Apr 30, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Chemistry

“The loss of JRich is why we lost to Minny, Indiana, etc.? The loss of JRich caused the players to "try less"? The loss of JRich is what caused Baron and Jack to jack up 3s?”

Exactly!  The magic was gone, in the back of their minds the players were thinking "hey, I could be next"

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 30, 2008 10:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't fault your logic there...

I bet that’s exactly what Baron was thinking as he went up for the layup. And when Al tried for the tip in, he was certainly thinking “Oh, man… my contract’s expiring next year. Will I get traded in the offseason?”

I love JRich, and he would have been a useful part of our team this year. But the trade was made and it’s made our future much brighter. Ask yourself this: “would you rather have JRich or Monta next year?” You can’t choose both.

The other missing ingredient is Gilbert. Man, if Cohan had just “shook his hand” a few years ago we’d be awesome. That and we would have won like 5 championships if Don Nelson and Chris Webber (remember them?) hadn’t fought like wussies back in the 90s. Stop living in the past.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Apr 30, 2008 11:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not quite that simple

Baron and Al had their head messed with but they didn’t consciously play that way, they weren’t on but they wouldn’t directly be aware of it. You gotta think a little deeper than the surface :>)
JRich over Monta no doubt. I like his personality much better.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 30, 2008 7:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You might just...

have the best username here on GSOM, but… You like JRich’s personality better?? I don’t even know what that means… Really, we’re talking about NBA basketball here… And to be honest, I don’t think either J Rich or Monta have notable personalities, good or bad.

This franchise has been through the “personality” stage and it got us Joe Smith over Rasheed, Todd Fuller over Nash and Kobe, and 10 years of Adonal Foyle. GSW is STILL reeling from those decisions… Not to compare J Rich with any of those stiff’s but a much better argument can be made in his favor. Even though I think its crazy to choose him over Monta for any reason…

I love great beer, but please, this reminder of Dave Twardzik is just too painfull…

by in for life on May 1, 2008 6:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

con Urquell

I was holding an Urquell when I signed up for GSOM. I’m still Skeptical but tonight it’s with a Ballast Point from down SanDiego way.
I want to watch players that I enjoy. Jason just has a winning personality. I like the effort he puts out and the emotion in his game. He seems to genuinely want to do well for the fans and it hurt him to not be able to get us into the playoffs sooner. I also don’t get the feeling that the other players could be as tight with Monta as they could with Jason. They put up similar numbers this past year but since they are both 2 guards I’d take the size and 3 point ability over the speed..

by Skeptic con Urquell on May 1, 2008 9:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess...

I got a little emotional when I saw “personality”.. You understand haha… Anyway, I see your point about positive energy but I still think Monta’s age and skill outweigh J Rich and his lead anchor contract.

All that said, its a good thing I’m not a GM because I would probably do something stupid like accept Ballast Point or Green Flash IPA’s in return for players!

by in for life on May 1, 2008 11:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah...

they traded timmy during those times too. what a mistake!

by oldskool on May 1, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

why is this up now

our new coach will be drum roll please….. MIKE DANTONI!!! once he gets fired this will be the best place for him. basically the same system and he will tinker with it even more. and it get us to at least playoffs all the time, and maybe western confrence finals

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on May 1, 2008 1:44 AM PDT   0 recs

D'Antoni?

Besides the fact that I think that D’Antoni has to be the most annoying coach (past or present) in the NBA, I don’t think sticking with a run-n-gun coach will get us rings. Nelson’s style has pushed us up from being the laughingstock of the league, that doesn’t mean his school of thought will get us a championship. I love Nellie, but I don’t think his style of coaching is gonna get us that ring. So will D’Antoni necessarily be a better fit? Maybe in terms of transition, but in the long run, we’re gonna be where we are now, a good team that can beat anybody, just not in a best of seven series.

Of course, I’m saying this like I have a coach in mind that will bring a ring to Oakland. I don’t, but I firmly believe D’Antoni is not the guy to do it.

by doheezy on May 1, 2008 2:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

nope

D’Antoni doesn’t impress me.

I pray i never have to use a gun again...
...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...
...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...
...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on May 2, 2008 11:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

d'antoni is something outta southpark...

tony.psd needs to do something with that… you reading this, tony? haha!

by oldskool on May 1, 2008 12:47 PM PDT   0 recs

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