Most of the athletes in the NBA have been winners at some point in their playing careers, be it high school, college, or traveling teams (AAU). Even if you isolate those that have been overwhelmingly successful you still have too many vagaries to make a definitive answer. Case in point is Mike Dunleavy Jr. He played on Duke’s National Champion team, and had received countless awards and accolades. As a result, he was drafted by the Warriors with the hope that his success as a collegiate would translate to the professional ranks. Unfortunately for the Warriors it did not, and his playing career in Oakland is largely considered forgettable. Things are just fuzzy around this stuff. Tayshaun Prince (taken 22 in Dunleavy’s draft cohort) was a very good player at Kentucky, is a very good player in Detroit, but has had the added benefit/luck of having a solid coaching staff that plays to his strengths, playing in a relatively weak Eastern conference, and playing alongside some other individually good and highly motivated talents that don’t require him to do much outside of his comfort zone.

CDR is not a playmaker. He wouldn’t be effective replacing Baron.

Rush would be a much better defender than CDR.

I think a good comparison is Rashard Lewis. Greene fell in love with the 3pt shot last year, although he has the size to go inside. Maybe it was a lack of ball handling that hampered his slashing game.

I’d say:

BCS: Less skilled Carmelo
Reality: Rashard Lewis-Lite
WCS: Al Harrington

hopefully baron can work his LA connections and get brand to join the W’s.

He’s vastly overrated.

Just because he was labeled a defender/rebounder won’t mean it’ll translate to the NBA. In the NCAA he was a man playing with boys for most of his career. That won’t be the case in the NBA. He’s a bit undersized and has no offensive skills outside of a few feet. Defending the post in the NCAA is much….much easier thing to do than in the NBA.

Plus, for him to see time on an NBA court, the team that selects him will need a center/power forward that has a complete offensive/defensive game. Glen Davis comes to mind with the niche he’s found in Boston playing next to KG. Paul Milsapp also plays alongside two legit bigs in Boozer and Okur. Carl Landry has Yao Ming to cover up his limitations. All i’m saying is that all these “Bruiser” types in college, more often than not fail to see the kind of success they found in college. This is due to limitations in their skill, athleticism, or body type. I think Dorsey falls under the lack of ideal body, lacks skills, and has limited potential left at age 23 already.

That brings me to why the Warriors should stay far clear of the Memphis prospect. The Warriors lack of a legit big to suck defenses in will negate any positive contributions Dorsey yields on the court. For Dorsey to find success on the Dubz, two things will have to happen. 1) AB or Brandan will have to pick up the slack offensively. They would need to expand their game out to 15 feet and keep the defenses honest and drag out the opposing big. This’ll let Dorsey free to roam underneath the basket to pick up offensive rebounds and garbage points (Like Kendrick Perkins has done with KG). 2) Dorsey will have to prove he’s an adequate man-to-man defender. He needs to makeup for his offensive liability with defensive toughness and not-letting-his-man-in-the-painted-area.

I think it is a lot to expect of Dorsey to become the next Milsapp when Milsapp was a far better prospect going into the 06’ draft. Plus the fact that there was less pressure on him when he came to an organization that already boasted a pretty strong frontcourt. By having offensive players in Boozer and Okur, this allows Milsapp to focus on his particular skill-set. And thus, he’s receiving plenty of success. Dorsey on the Dubz however is a different thing. He’s less skilled than Milsapp, and he’s coming to a far weaker frontcourt which is not a recipe for success.

Gabez, please read this and maybe i can convert you off the Dorsey Bandwagon 08’!!!!!

That we really weren’t THAT offensively efficient as a team.

Sure if you look up the stats we’re 4th overall in Off Eff. at 109.1. But then take a look at the Pace Factor (Number of posessions per game) at 101. 4. This is a case of a quantity of shots going up, rather than quality shots getting produced.

A lot of people say “We don’t need more offense”, is I think a fallacy. We need BETTER offensive players. We cannot go another season with Baron and Jack as our #1 & 2 options. Not when they shoot around 40% from the field.

AB was 15 feet out at all times????? what games were you watching?

you were grabbing popcorn or had bad seats, but I saw Dris grabbin a lot more boards down around the hoop than you. The offense is designed to space the floor to use the strengths of Baron and Monta attacking the basket so a lot of times he set up in the high post, but that doesnt mean he ended up there….or that we need to draft a guy to clog up those driving lanes either. I agree we could use a guy who could contribute more from the low post, but Dorsey isnt that guy. Successful low post players need a post game, and Dorsey doesnt have any form of a post game, or offensive game at all. What makes you think he’ll be successful defensively in the NBA anyway? what NBA caliber post guys did you see him play well against?

i really am interested. and try using the reply function instead of placing your arguments randomly.

The dubz are picking from the 14th spot, while Chi Town got EXTREMELY lucky (more than Portland last year, blazers had 5% chance to win, Bulls had 1.7%)

dont like the idea of pairing up gordon and monta…I dont think they could coexist very well. I liked that trade idea only if the dubs couldve landed Mayo with the draft pick which looks very unlikely at this point.