Keeping the old with the new
by passionately objective on May 7, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
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Hello friends, and thank you for reading my first blog on GSoM.
Chris Mullin's job is to maintain the balance of youth and experience in order to continue the organizational health of the Warriors. Here is one thing that I think he needs to do in order to ensure he acccomplishes that goal.
Pick up the phone, and make a call. If you have to, keep making calls until you have a good trade in terms of value for Al Harrington. Al Harrington is the 2nd highest paid player on the Warriors, but by far is not the 2nd best player on the team. I have him rated the 5th on the roster, behind Stephen Jackson, Baron Davis, Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins.
He was not a true starter for the Warriors this past season, being used as a 6th man at times. He is a 4 that is sometimes put into the 5 hole when the W's go small, but he can't defend like a 4 or a 5, and didn't rebound well either. So although he has a nice perimiter game, at times, he is severely lacking in the two areas the W's need help with most: rebounding and defense.
The good news is that he has shown flashes of offensive brilliance that will make him an attractive trading chip for a prospective team, especially one that is points starved. His salary isn't so high that makes trading him near impossible, and it would open up an opportunity for Brandan Wright to get some significant minutes. Should they be resigned, Patrick O'Bryant, Matt Barnes and MP would potentially see more minutes as well.
With Mullin all but guaranteeing that Ellis and Biedrins will be locked up for a while, that would give the W's some payroll flexibility while accomplishing the oppotunities for others with "addition by subtraction". Mullin has to be careful not to overspend when retaining Biedrins and Ellis, but I think he's learned that.
The next question is what to do about Davis. Will he or won't he opt out? Will he opt out and resign at a lower salary to benefit the team (probably not), or can the Warriors get some value out of a trade for him before he plays this season out and walks?
The great GMs know that it's better to make a move a year too early rather than a year too late. Hopefully, Mully knows how to keep the old with the new.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Great first diary, PO. I basically agree with every word. On Harrington, I would add, unscientifically, that he may be the least clutch player on the team. He seems to tense up in crunch-time. I wonder if he isn’t too “nice” a guy to be a great competitor.
I think “mixing the old with the new” is basically the way to go, though if a great offer came along, I wouldn’t be totally averse to dumping BD and building around ME/AB/BW…
Sign ^^^^ !!!
by Sleepy Freud on May 7, 2008 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dumping BD
“building around ME/AB/BW?”
Yeah a core of toe flawed players and one with little experience is the way to go!
Where you gonna find a point guard that’s better than Baron and is not locked up somewhere? Will CP3 come over?
Baron’s not the problem, our lack of toughness is the problem, Monta can float around all he wants and Dris can move without the ball for ever but that won’t win championships. Will a skinny BW ever strike fear into the hearts of the NBA? We need more guys like Baron who aren’t afraid to mix it up. Baron would be fine if he had a little help, I think he gets tired of carrying the load by himself.
Trading Jason din’t help our toughness a bit, what’d we get to replace him, BW and euroslim? . If we can trade TMNT for some Gattitude then go for it.!!
by Skeptic con Urquell on May 8, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes
As opposed to the Godlike, unflawed Mr. Davis. Yeah, if you take away the fact that BD is:
1. Fragile physically
2. Slightly overweight
3. Crowding 30
4. Known to take games off
5. Inefficient from the floor and the FT line
6. Not the type of player likely to lead his team to an NBA championship
... He’s a regular CP3.
Dude, I love BD as much as the next guy, but read carefully: I said IF a great offer came along. Hypothetically. Nobody should be untouchable if moving him improves the team.
Are you actually incapable of grasping these twin realities—
1. Baron is a great player and the heart of team, whom we should definitely keep if the price is right
2. We’re not going to win an NBA championship with Baron as our best player.
—or are you just busting my chops?
Sign ^^^^ !!!
by Sleepy Freud on May 8, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree with all that, but...
Baron also makes Monta’s job easier. Monta can’t start at the 2 without having a good ball-handler on O and a big PG with him to handle the bigger guards on D. Baron is not untouchable, but if you replace him, you need to think about where that will put Monta who the Dubs are getting ready to pay big dollars.
I pray i never have to use a gun again...
...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...
...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...
...But how often does that happen??
by ssmokinjoe on May 8, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
busting my chops?
Naw dogg, why would I wanna do that?
I just get tired of seeing the team get nowhere. When baron came we had two very good players(boom and JR) then we got Jax and had 3, This year monta got better but Jason was run off so we went backwards. If we get rid of Boom we’ll be down to jax and monta which is worse than we were when Baron first came! get the picture? no where in 4 years. When you get a guy like Baron it makes sense to build to win around him instead of dick around to save money. I can see why Baron might be getting tired of this show. If he goes I hope it’s to a winner cause he deserves better than mullin and Nelson have given him.
by Skeptic con Urquell on May 8, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
if you take into account the ages of Monta and Andris, who are supposed to be who we want to build around for the future, you could speculate that the club’s timetable for winning is like 2 or 3 or more years down the road. Evidence of this is the bouncing of Jrich to free up salary for those 2 and the acquisition of Wright who would probably be coming into his own by about that time as well. But given Baron’s age and the fact he’ll be about 32 or so by that time with an even more worn down body and even more mileage on his already aching wheels, you have to wonder if Baron is really part of the Warrior’s future plans.
If all goes to plan, 2 or 3 years down the road Monta and Wright should be killing the league, and Andris will hopefully show steady improvement without signs of hitting his ceiling yet. But what about a 32 year old Baron with 40 year old knees and heavy contract? Your star PG has become the weakest link. With this kind of reasoning i wouldn’t be surprised if Baron is let go sooner than later for money and for youth.
I pray i never have to use a gun again...
...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...
...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...
...But how often does that happen??
by ssmokinjoe on May 9, 2008 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might be worth mentioning
that the team was arguably better without JR, even though I appreciated him very much so while he was in Oakland. 1: The move provided move PT for Jackson, which proved to be essential in the teams success. 2. The team won more games, without JR, in a tougher Western Conference.
Not necessarily a bad team I’d say?
by passionately objective on May 9, 2008 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I was beginning to wonder if this was a complete bomb on my part, and I was typing with so much conviction. It would be smart to trade BD to a team that wouldn’t hurt us, if he were to be traded at all. (Eastern Conference)
by passionately objective on May 7, 2008 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
asdf
I think the best thing about getting rid of al is giving bwright time to develop into an NBA player. I agree with sleppy about how he seems to lack the intensity needed to win tough games.
by 15thefuture8 on May 7, 2008 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BWright will develop with or without Al
That is not an argument for dumping Al. The argument for dumping Al is that he’s inconsistent, weaksauce on D, he’s overpaid (not by much, but a little), and he has one year left on his contract which increases his value.
PO, do you have any suggestions for who we might get for Al?
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 8, 2008 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
BW will develop regardless, I agree, but with Al not taking minutes from him you can’t be arguing that he wouldn’t gain exponential experience by being the starting 4? I believe I also mentioned Al’s inconsistency, weak D, and being overpaid. So either I’m misunderstanding your point as correcting me, or maybe you didn’t read my piece closely? It is not “the” argument, but I’d have to say that it is “a” argument.
by passionately objective on May 8, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually responding to 15thefuture8
Not your comments, which I agree with on Al. I’ll see your latest diary in a bit.
by Dubs fan in Boston on May 9, 2008 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dubs fan in boston
maybe you shouldn’t read the other diary, it appears my hopes and dreams got the best of me and i went off into left field. but thx for clearing that up, i thought you were talking to me.
by passionately objective on May 9, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TRADE BD FOR EB ( Elton Brand) !!!!
Dr. Jeff
by JEFFSJAZZ on May 8, 2008 4:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
in the name of love....before you break my heart.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on May 8, 2008 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
idk
but keep monta, and trade Action Jackson and Al harrington for a good pg or pf. Or BD have to go, hopefully not. we better trade him for Elton Brand or a all star PF. To think about, I dont think BW will ever be the player everybody hope to be. Heck, mind as well package him to get Elton Brand so we could keep BD for 3-4 more year.
by warriorfan4life on May 9, 2008 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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