ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!

by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jun 18, 2008 1:53 AM PDT

Watching KG yell that at the top of his lungs, I was thrilled to see that. Probably more excited that the Lakers had gotten absolutely decimated, but KG has been one of my favorite players, so this was nice. However.. I couldn't help but feel that could have been us. Last summer, I checked the internet 5 times a day, waiting to see if the Warriors were going to be able to pull of the KG deal, and all the rumor mills seemed to point to the Warriors landing him. Then the shocking news, Boston got him. Of all the teams, the team with the most insufferable fans (mainly based off Red Sox and Patriots fans) landed one of the best players in the league. Of all the teams, the team which openly tanked, and whose fans openly supported (through blogs, not attendance) their team tanking was now getting the chance to team three title hungry all stars together. Damn them. My visions of a lineup featuring BD, Buke, Stackjack, Harrington and KG on the court was never going to become a reality..

But looking at the way the Celtics came together, the Warriors could have come together the same way. Remember Posey was basically a package deal with KG. BD played with PJ Brown, that could have brought him in. Who knows, maybe House would have signed with the Warriors too. The Warriors could have had a team of BD, Stackjack, KG, Barnes, Buke, Bellineli, Brown, Harrington, Posey, House and maybe a more productive POB with guarranteed minutes at the C?

Is a trio of Pierce, Allen and KG that much better than BD, Stackjack and KG? The Warriors may have lacked a bit in size, but they would have had the one thing Boston was desperate for all season long, a dominant point guard. And you figure Harrington would be a better version of Perkins..

Don't get me wrong. I love having Monta, I've been excited about him since they drafted him, bought his jersey his rookie year, and now wouldn't give him up for anyone but Dwight Howard. But still, I think some part of me will always wonder if anything was in fact possible...

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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I was rooting for the lakers

I hate the lakers with a ton of passion, but the celtics fans DID NOT deserve that. They go through one F&8%45ing bad year, where the team basically tanked and the fans were nowhere to be seen(the warriors have had a higher attendance % the last 5 years than the celtics – those include playoff years) and basically get rewarded with a championship. We’ve gone through a ish load of bad teams/years, WHERES OUR CHAMPIONSHIP!? It’s getting really frustrating watching other teams have these amazing championship runs while we’re sitting here with squat.

We were so close to getting KG, it’s really not fair.

by superk1ng on Jun 18, 2008 5:08 AM PDT 0 recs

How about...

...when in the spirit of good sportsmanship, Turiaf walked over to congratulate KG and was literally pushed away by “Big Baby doesn’t deserve a ring” Davis. And KG’s acting was overdone. Anything is possible? Isn’t that an Adidas ad or something? Call me a hater, cuz I definitely am when it comes to these Celtics. I have never pulled for the Lakers before, that’s how much I dislike this team.

Mark my words, I bet the parade will be a complete joke, with KG and his overdone “emotions and intensity”. Call it what it is instead of jocking him, he’s acting like an idiot. Put your hat on straight too, your on TV for crissakes.

Can you believe last year I bought KG sandals? What was I thinking.

by bucknall20 on Jun 18, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

Big baby is lame..

But you cant hate on KG! well, you can actually do whatever you feel, but the kid is emotional, let him do his thing. And who says a hat has to be on straight? what is this, the military? Hell Naw, it’s a freaking celebration. Hate the celts or not, the lakers winnin in LA would have been 10 times more painful to watch.

by meximocha on Jun 18, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

As predicted...

I saw a total of 30 seconds of the parade flippin through channels and Big Baby has his shirt off.

Call me a hater because I am hatin’ for real. No class. can’t wait for Scalabrine to start rappin.

by bucknall20 on Jun 19, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

Wow....

I hate the Sox as much as anyone (the Pats less so), but:

Ray Allen/Paul Pierce are much better than BD/Jack.

The Celtics didn’t get rewarded for tanking. Remember, for their tanking, they LOST the lottery. Would you have had them win 6 more games down the stretch? That would have given them the 5th spot in the lottery and they would have got a very similar draft pick and still could have got Ray Allen for the pick, Wally, and Delonte.

The Celtics got very, very lucky. They had good young pieces and expiring contracts in place that they could trade. More importantly, they found the Oklahoma Clay Bennets… errr… a Seattle team that was looking to get rid of the old guard and rebuild. Then they had the best offer for KG with young talent (Jefferson, 2 draft picks, Gomes), an expiring contract. KG was going to be moved for whatever the Timberwolves could get.

Our main problem was that we still had a few bad contracts on the books during the discussions (Foyle and JRich). Without those, I’m sure we could have found a way to make it work. Thus, patience until Foyle comes off the books, then we can go wheeling and dealing… hopefully for LeBron (there Sleepy, I can be wishful).

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 18, 2008 6:58 AM PDT 0 recs

Really?

Is there really that much of a difference between Pierce and Davis? Davis is a little better at offense, and plays a more premium position (PG), and has the best beard in the league, while Pierce is a bit better at defense. Ray Allen was considered past his prime, so much that even the biggest Boston homer, the Sports Guy, wrote about it several times. Stackjack at his best is as good or better than Allen at offense, and much better on defense. At his worst.. well, we’ve all seen him at his worst. Just think what BD and Jackson would have been capable of with a player like KG drawing attention from them.

The Celtics got lucky in the sense that McHale decided to help his former team rather than take the best package out there. The Warriors package of Ellis, Biedrins, Wright, and Pietrus (?), seems far better for a rebuilding team than the Boston package of Jefferson, Ratliff’s contract, and various busted 1st rounders.

Again, I’m not saying the Celtics didn’t play well enough this year to deserve it. I actually like all three of them, but the fans and the organization didn’t deserve to see a title so soon after last year’s abomination.

by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jun 18, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up 0 recs

Homerism

Don’t get me wrong, I love our Warriors as much as the next GSoM’er. But, uh, eh, ahem…BD and Jax are not anywhere near the level of Pierce and Allen. I will agree that Jax is a better defender than Allen, but BD is nowhere near as diverse or efficient as Pierce is on offense. And Baron’s man defense isn’t all that great either….hard to compare the two though, kind of like apples and oranges. Different positions, different sizes, and different roles on their respective teams.

"Oooh, watch yo biceps Buk, watch yo biceps Bukie."

by tobin on Jun 18, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

Debatable

“Davis is a little better at offense”

I see where your comin from but not sure i agree all the way, I love Boom but it can be said that he only gives 100, about 80 of the time, while Pierce seems to always bring it.
Did you see how many times he took the ball to the tin during the entire play off series, not just the finals. He went to the hole hard every single time and converted mostly. His shots were money from 3 range, the only area Baron will consistently beat him out in is are his ablilities to beat people off the dribble and blow by them.
He will never be the true shooter that PP is.
But then again, not a fair comparison due to positions they play.

by meximocha on Jun 18, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up 0 recs

I dunno

After watching Pierce a whole bunch this season, I’d have to rank him slightly above his pal BD in the NBA canon, even given the much higher degree of difficulty of playing PG. I think BD can be as dominant as Pierce, when he’s inspired, but he doesn’t sustain it game-in game-out the way Pierce does. With the exception of last season, P2 has been one of the most consistently durable, productive players in the NBA over the last decade. You can’t say the same for BD. In this year’s playoffs, Pierce basically took the Cs on his shoulders when Ray was slumping horribly and KG was doing his “ummm, here, you take the ball” routine. His duel with LeBron in Game 7 was one for the ages (without that performance, we wouldn’t be talking about the Cs right now); and in the finals, he basically outplayed Kobe Bryant on both ends of the floor.

Stephen Jackson = Jesus Shuttleworth is even more of a stretch. Obviously Jack is a better defender, but Ray’s edge on offense is huge. Jack at his best is nohow noway “as good or better than Allen at offense,” unless by “at his best you mean” “considering only his made shots and ignoring all his crazy misses and turnovers.” Ray seems to have slowed a bit from his peak, but at his peak, he was far better than Jack.

It all seems so obvious now, but I give Ainge a little credit for being ballsy enough to make the first move towards the championship, dumping the #5 pick (a shot at Jeff Green or Yi Jianlian—woohoo!!!) for a pricy 32-year old shooting guard. IIRC, at the time, Sportsguy was miffed and confused about the deal. My guess is that Ainge pulled the trigger without being 100% sure he could finaigle the KG end of the deal. That’s pretty gutsy in my book. If the other shoe hadn’t dropped, they’d have ended up with a mismatched, mediocre team.

As for the “other shoe”: I’m not so sure the package he gave up for KG — Jefferson, Gomes, Green, Telfair, Wally, and a first-rounder — was worse than the one we were offering. I actually think it was better. You have to consider that both Biedrins and Monta have taken pretty big leaps this past season that weren’t sure bets at the time. At the time of the deal, Jefferson was clearly a bigger prize in the eyes of most GMs and fans. Indeed, there were a decent number of Cs fans who were concerned about shipping out a 21-year-old star-bigman-in-the-making for a 31-year-old superstar.

As far as whether Boston fans deserve it less than other fans: as Clint Eastwood says to Gene Hackman near the end of Unforgiven: “deserve ain’t got nothing to do with it”...

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 18, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

Come on..

You guys are all basing your opinions after watching the finals, where yes, Pierce and Allen were very impressive. However you have to keep two things in mind, bringing in a low post player like KG opens up their game a whole lot more, not letting other teams cheat with double teams, and giving them more oppurtunities to take risks on D since they know KG has their back. Seriously, before this season if you heard about a straight up deal, BD for Pierce, would anybody have gotten excited? I doubt it. Pierce elevated his game in the playoffs, but I recall Baron carrying the team last year against the Maverics, and all of the talk about how he lives for big moments and plays better in bigger moments.. you don’t think he could match Pierce out there? And, as I mentioned about Ray Allen, go back and read archived articles about the Celtics. Ray Allen was pretty damn streaky this year, at times being the best player on the court hitting 7 threes, and at times dropping 1-12 games and getting blamed for losses. Sound like anyone on our team? Boston fans had been ripping Allen right up to the Finals, convenient that everyone forgets this and is now back on the Ray Allen is great bandwagon. Ray Allen WAS great, but for this most recent season, he was less than inspiring.

I honestly don’t think that most people were that high on Jefferson, and Minnesota getting Telfair and Green seemed like one of those addition by subtraction things in reverse.

by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jun 18, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ray Allen isn’t quite the player he used to be, but he still had a good season. His shooting was across the board what it’s been through his career. His scoring average dropped by sharing the ball with other accomplished scorers. In terms of his efficiency, he wasn’t any better (nor any worse) by having other scorers to lighten the load vs. his career largely spent on mediocre or worse teams. Pierce has been an overlooked damn near elite player for much of his career who doesn’t have quite the flash that gets players absolute top billing. He did seem to benefit from playing with the other guys vs. last year when he was also hurt, although again, he didn’t do things beyond what he’d done in the past. Less than inspiring for most of the season? I don’t really think that’s accurate. Nearly 40% from beyond the arc, 90% from the stripe and 17 points on 13 shots from the floor with a reasonable assists and rebounds for the position and very few turnovers isn’t “less than impressive.” It’s pretty damn good.

BD for Pierce before this season? I’d have pulled the trigger for one reason alone: Pierce, albeit coming off an injury season, looked to be a better bet to contribute for 82 games. As it was, that didn’t become an issue, but last year, even after the playoffs, many were voicing a need to sell Baron off since it was unlikely he’s be healthy for all of the season. At the top of his game, I think Pierce’s a bit more productive as well, though he plays a position where the dropoff to a replacement player is likely not as great, so that’s probably a push.

by jae on Jun 18, 2008 4:04 PM PDT up 0 recs

You guys are all basing your opinions after watching the finals, where yes, Pierce and Allen were very impressive

I’ve always thought Pierce and Allen were impressive. Call me crazy.

However you have to keep two things in mind, bringing in a low post player like KG opens up their game a whole lot more, not letting other teams cheat with double teams, and giving them more oppurtunities to take risks on D since they know KG has their back.

I’m sure it does open up their games, yet how do you explain the fact they were just as or more productive on teams without a franchise low post player?

Seriously, before this season if you heard about a straight up deal, BD for Pierce, would anybody have gotten excited?

Well, I wouldn’t have gotten “excited,” since I was still intoxicated by BD’s playoff heroics, and Pierce doesn’t fill a need for us. Still, I would have seriously considered the deal, given BD’s history of serious durability problems (five straight years of significant missed time). Also, “Before this season” is a slightly unfair reference point, since BD was coming off a heroic playoff effort, whereas PP had suffered through his only injury-plagued season ever. At any point in the five years before last year’s playoffs, Celtics fans would have laughed at the idea of swapping PP for BD and his creaky knees. And after this year’s finals, most of them would again laugh at it.

And, as I mentioned about Ray Allen, go back and read archived articles about the Celtics. Ray Allen was pretty damn streaky this year, at times being the best player on the court hitting 7 threes, and at times dropping 1-12 games and getting blamed for losses. Sound like anyone on our team?

Sure, it sounds a little like Stephen Jackson. A little, as in “Kelenna Azubuike is a little like Jason Richardson.” When all the streaks were said and done, Ray Allen had clocked in at a 58.4% true shooting percentage to Jack’s 53.6%. Career: 57.1% to 52.3%. That’s a pretty significant difference.

Ray Allen WAS great, but for this most recent season, he was less than inspiring.

Right, but we were talking about his value before this season, correct?

I honestly don’t think that most people were that high on Jefferson

A lot of people were. The question is whether most people were higher on Jefferson than on Biedrins and Monta (assuming that’s what we were offering). Most people were, and probably still are. I do think that our (rumored) package probably won in terms of “overall talent,” especially if Wright had been on the table as well, but the general rule in those kind of blosckbusters is you want to get the best player available, a guy you can build a team around. That was pretty clearly Al Jefferson.

Minnesota getting Telfair and Green seemed like one of those addition by subtraction things in reverse.

Well, no argument there, but those guys were just filler. Neither was on a big contract that would swing the deal one way or the other. A much bigger swing factor was that Wally’s deal expired sooner than any of our big expirings (Al Harrington, e.g.) With Ratliff’s big expiring and Wally’s big soon-to-be-expiring, the Cs were really in a perfect storm, $$$ wise.

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In the end, this whole debate is moot until we know exactly what offer we had on the table. And even then it’s moot, since KG is wearing the green, and has a ring. I know, it totally sucks. I’ve ranted and raved about on this site a ton. I’ve moved on. Mostly. :-(

Sign ^^^^ !!!

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 18, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

Good points...

I guess everyone will always have a different opinion. I always liked Baron Davis more than Pierce. If you had asked me in 2005 if I would rather have the Warriors trade for Davis or Pierce, I would say Davis, hands down, even before taking into consideration that we had Pietrus, J-Rich and #34.

I have always like Ray Allen (especially in NBA 2K3 – Allen, Lewis, V-Rad, Brent Barry -greatest video game lineup ever!) but, over the last couple of years, there’s been much talk of him being on the decline. His value before the season was not as high as in seasons past, and his value during the season (at least based on obnoxious Boston fans reactions) didn’t improve during the season.

Anyway, my main point was if you take Rondo, Pierce and Allen, and pit them against Davis, Jackson and Buke, especially before all of the post season hype that has been lauded over them, I think the Warriors were at least as good.

It’s kinda difficult to truly say where unestablished players like Jefferson and Biedrins were ranked, but I dont’ really know if Jefferson was that much higher that “throwins” of Monta, Wright, and (?) Pietrus) weren’t considered over Gomes, Green, Bassy and Ratliff’s contract. Also, I’m pretty sure that Wally World was included in the Seattle deal, not Minnesota.

Sigh, alas though, all we can do is wonder about what might have been. I’m making an effort to turn my attention to another franchise altering big man – my third favorite behind KG and Howard – Elton Brand.

by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jun 19, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

Ray Allen is a shooter

He’ll be around until his ankles finally give out.

Hype doesn’t come into play when a game is actually played. Pierce would abuse BD or Jackson while handling BD on defense. Jackson isn’t efficient enough and Ray can still score from anywhere. Rondo/Buke would just sit in the corner.

Jefferson was a legit 20/10. A good PF is rare. A good undersized SG is not, andMinny already had Foye, Jaric, and McCants. Gomes is a solid, solid player. Ratliff’s contract was NOT a throw in.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 19, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up 0 recs

Oops

You’re right, I always confuse Ratliff and Wallyworld. :-) Wally actually had negative value since his contract expiry was a year off, whereas Ratliff, as DFiB points out, was the proverbial “huge expiring contract” that everyone covets.

In other words, conspiracy and collusion theories aside, if we had had Ratliff and Boston had had Foyle, we’d probably have KG now. Timing is really everything.

Now, whether we’d be polishing our first rings since ‘75 is another question. I think if we had been able to land, say, James Posey and a serviceable big man (roughly Kurt Thomas quality) we could have given the Lakers and Spurs some problems.

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 19, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up 0 recs

Perhaps..

.. you’ve been in Boston too long. Maybe Pierce’s D is better than Baron’s, but Jackson’s D is head and shoulders above Allen’s D. By setting Rondo and Buke aside, you also miss part of the argument that while Baron and Pierce are elite players, Baron is an elite PG. The difference between an elite PG and a PG like Rondo is far greater than the distance between an elite SF and Buke.

by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jun 19, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

Agree in principle

But only assuming that by “a PG like Rondo” you mean “a mediocre PG.” The problem with this assumption is that Rondo is not mediocre. He’s not. He can’t shoot a lick, but did you see him absolutely dominate Fisher and Farrmarr in Game 6? 21 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds, 6 steals, 1 turnover. Overall in the playoffs (26 games): 172 assists, 47 turnovers. Those are far from mediocre numbers. It’s no surprise Dave Berri rates him the single most underrated player in the NBA.

So yeah, if the Celtics offered us Rondo and Pierce for Baron and Azubuike, I’d probably pull the trigger. On top of its other merits, It’s a beautifully symmetrical deal, since Rondo and Azubuike are old Kentucky pals and BD and P2 are old LA pals. It’s really too bad we can’t have all four of them…

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 19, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

Baron versus Pierce

Straight up Baron had better numbers 21.8p, 4.7r, 7.6 a,eff 22.18 versus 19.7p, 5.0r, 4.6a,eff 18.12. As a package I’d take Boom,Jax,Montay,and Garnet over Rondo,Pierce,Rayray and Garnett. The Yay area group would have way more cool.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 19, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

Monta?

Wasn’t he part of the Garnett trade? I mean, there were rumors that they didn’t want Monta ‘cos he duplicates Foye, but I thought for the purposes of this hypothetical we were imagining Monta gone. If we get to keep Monta, wow, so much the better — can we keep Biedrins too?

Again, it gets back to the fact that none of us knows what the actual offer we had on the table was, or even if there was an offer, or a table. It would be cool to know, wouldn’t it? Some intrepid reporter needs to sneak some truth serum in Nellie’s nightcap…

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by Sleepy Freud on Jun 19, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up 0 recs

Wasn’t he part of the Garnett trade?

Hi Sleepy, Yeah probably . I was just pointing out that Pierce,Allen and Rondo are not any better than Boom, Jax, and Montay. The big difference is Garnett, if we had him Boston would not be in the playoffs and Pierce would not be the MVP, Boom would.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 20, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up 0 recs

Baron had better numbers? I’d argue that’s not clear. Baron scored more points. He also played in a more up-tempo system and played a whole lot more minutes. Per minute played, they’re pretty equal. Per possession, Pierce was scoring more and he required the ball less often to do so. Their raw offense was pretty equal, though Pierce was more efficient.

I would certainly hope that Baron would have more assists given the position he plays, and Pierce should (and did) have more rebounds for exactly the same reason. Depending on the measure you use (e.g. PER or WINS PRODUCED) they measure up differently. Baron had a narrow, narrow lead in PER, Pierce had a higher Wins Produced rating. Of those types of metrics, I think WP has more meaning to player value, but both of them are more useful than NBA Efficiency, which has a much lower correlation with wins.

On balance they were pretty even. There certainly wasn’t a huge statistical difference between the two last year.

by jae on Jun 19, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ray Allen and Paul Pierce

are better than Jack and Boom Dizzle.

by sam23 on Jun 19, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

See What Happens When You...

Play D. The dubs should take a look at Boston and how they played D. Maybe it will inspire them a little to actually play some!

by gabezgsw on Jun 18, 2008 8:10 AM PDT 0 recs

how can you say they dont deserve it?

Who cares about the fans?

those players deserved it. Yes They were lucky they were brought together, but they worked hard and if you WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP you deserve it.

by gby822 on Jun 18, 2008 9:35 AM PDT 0 recs

LOL...

Kobe’s face after the game. Priceless.
I was hoping vujacic would start crying but we all cant get what we want now can we?

All seriousness, props to the big 3, props to Truth for getting finals MVP, most deserving.

by meximocha on Jun 18, 2008 9:56 AM PDT 0 recs

Vuyjacic crying

in game 4 was plenty for me. priceless moment.

by sam23 on Jun 19, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

DITTO!

i laughed for hours

by gby822 on Jun 19, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

My favorite part

And you figure Harrington would be a better version of Perkins..

That’s priceless. Almost as good as the diary explaining why we should go get Kwame Brown.

"Oooh, watch yo biceps Buk, watch yo biceps Bukie."

by tobin on Jun 18, 2008 11:08 AM PDT 0 recs

I honestly thought

that James Posey was the MVP of the Finals.

So many big 3’s and great lockdown D on Kobo and Odo when he was in.

J-Po was clutch just like when he won it as a Heat. Dude is a winner.

Dubz don’t need to draft a superstar. We just need a guy who does the dirty work, plays within himself and never quits. Pietrus can easily be that guy, but he unfortunately he is a mental midget.

by misterjennings on Jun 18, 2008 4:51 PM PDT 0 recs

Posey

I wouldn’t go so far to say that he was the MVP, but Posey did so many good things in that Finals. He shot the 3 very well and played that great D that he’s known for. Also, he was able to get under Odom’s skin enough to make me believe that he basically mentally defeated him. The Warriors could use a dude like Posey.

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jun 18, 2008 5:36 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hey SSmokin...

U still watch Wowowee…?! Man My parents got me watching this one show called “ASAP 08” and I swear… they murder tracks from Rihanna and Chris Brown! ...and the back up dancers suck LOL! But for some reason I just can’t stop watching! LOL!

by Tony.psd on Jun 18, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up 0 recs

wassup Tony

Nah, i haven’t gotten a chance to flip on TFC much lately, but i do admit that i miss those Wowowee dancers, LOL. Yeah they love them some American pop music out there fo sho, and it often feels like i’m watching a high school talent show sometimes. But it’s all good. Gotta at least support Pinoy pride and give props for the effort.

Hey maybe you should throw up a drawing incorporating the Warriors dancing with those Wowowee dancers or something? I know it’ll get me rolling on the floor even if half the members on this board probably won’t get it.

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jun 19, 2008 6:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

forget comparing it to those damn bandwagon

they need to trade Action Jackson, Al Harrington, Brandon Wright and POB, baby rocky and so they could cook up a deal to bring us Elton Brand and Ron Ron . I rather have a winning team and bebroke than be losing and have money. Anyways, If you want a team that could plays D, it will cost us half of the team, but it will get us far in the playoff. and this is the first time everybody say, an old Jesus Shuttlesworth is better than Action Jackson period. Jackson only got better D than him. other than that, he got game owns him in everything else. To think about it, Action Jackson just get lucky for shooting up all those 3’s. That all i got to say about it.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 19, 2008 3:51 AM PDT 0 recs

uhhh

we cant trade POB

by 15thefuture8 on Jun 19, 2008 6:33 PM PDT 0 recs

well.....

we need to make some changes and this team isn’t working for us. We can’t win with a cheap salary team. So we better starts paying all stars forward here to save our weak defense and rebounding.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 20, 2008 2:04 AM PDT up 0 recs