is better than that. He got 5 techs last year or something like that. I like it, but I hopr if it happrnd, chancy and sheed bring some of the excitment that baron brought.

Hey now, he was a PG drafted in the middle of the first round… humm…

I’d probably do that trade in a heartbeat. And the Salaries matchup pretty well ($25M from Detroit and $27M from Golden State), so I don’t think anybody would have to throw in anything else. Though I don’t know that this trade would take us into the upper echelon of teams… it’d just get us into the conversation.

Besides, Baron still has to decide on his contract. It’s a moot point until after FA starts.

Both Sheed and Billups are old players compared to Baron and Al. Sheed made it know saying that this would be his final year playing basketball where he wants to spend more time with his family.

Ill feel more comfortable if we keep Baron and just trade Al plus for Sheed.

Re-sign the boss and hire him some big help.

First post. Long time lurker.

Please do not deal Diddy! I have watched the Dubs for going on 16 years now and have endured many a dark cloud season with no silver lining. The reason I am and have been so excited about the Dubs for the past 3 years is that they have loveable exciting players. Diddy is the heart and soul of this team. Billups and Sheed are good players but neither can fill the void that Baron would leave.

Fear the Beard!!!

We’re getting 2 proven veterans that have tons of playoff experience and could bring us to the Finals! Wallace will be one of the best PFs we’ve had in the last couple years and Billups would be a fantastic guard for us. I don’t know what everyone else is saying but Billups is clutch, plays some defense and gets around 20 ppg. Sheed is way better than Al and Billups is a little worse than BD. But what we are getting in return is so great that this could be our break. We’d actually play some defense and start winning close games! I know everyone loves the running pace and loves BD (So Do I) but is that gonna get us anywhere? We were building this team for a championship 13 years ago and here we are, 1 playoff appearance eliminated in the 2nd round, the time is now!

But I’d hate to see the Dubs pull the trigger on this. This trade could work and make the Dubs a better team, but don’t you guys think the Dubs can still accomplish making the playoffs or making it deep in the postseason next season by keeping Baron?

We are only a couple pieces away (with a much needed dedication to team defense)....from being a serious threat to the NBA. Most Warrior fans like the team as it is now, so why even bother with the trade? (unless the BD and Nellie beef is as serious as everyone has speculated.)

If I were the GM I would stick with the chemistry of the team that we already have and concentrate more on adding to the team instead of risking with a reconstruction of the team.

Watching germany/turkey right now, saw it on the crawl.

Do it.

I’ma huge Baron Fan, got his poster up on my wall here @ work. BUT, the fact of the matter remains, that it doesn’t seem he’ll stick around w/ the Dubs after he plays out this year, and even if he did, we still would have a fringe playoff squad. I know Monta, Beans, and B-Wright are developing, but how long does Baron wait before he really contends for a ring? I don’t see him stickin around, and I’m not mad, it’s just the business of the league. (See the ESPN article about him wanting a championship)

As for an immediate impact, I think Chauncey is still a great point gaurd, definitely not as flashy as Baron, and won’t give us the Oooh’s and Aaaah’s that Baron would, but he’s extremely efficient, and we now have Monta for that.

Though aging, Rasheed Wallace is a HUGE improvement over Al Harrington, and I HATE Sheed. Ever since that whole E-40 comment and then E-40 blasted him on that track. LOL..

Let’s look @ numbers:

BD: 22ppg, 8 Apg, w/ 2 Spg. on 43% from the field and 33% from 3pt Range.
CB: 17ppg, 7 Apg, w/ 1 Spg. on 45% from the field and 40% from 3pt Range

AH: 14ppg, 5 Rpg on 43% from the field and 38% from 3pt range.
RW: 13ppg, 7 Reb, and 2 Bpg. on 43% from the field. and 35% from 3pt. range.

Sure the numbers look better for BD And Al, but if you look @ the type/play of teams in the equation, the numbers are a little inflated because of Nellie Ball. The Warriors average almost 14 ppg more than the Piston due to play style. So one could definitely argue that Chancey and Sheed’s number would also go up if they had a Dubs jersey on. And the pistons, leae by Sheed and Chauncey, had a +7.4 differential to points for/points against, compared to the Warriors +2.2.

The leadership of Baron is made up for w/ the leadership skills of Chauncey combined w/ Sheed. Al, as much as I like watching him play is inconsitent, if he can’t score, there is NO reason to have him on the court, as Nellie proved last year. Sheed, even when NOT scoring can board, distribute better than Al, and just play some hard nosed defense, while still maintaining an offensive threat. I know Baron is a great scorer and distributor, Chauncey can put up similar Assist #’s and witht he emergence of Ellis, and Jackson, and hopefully Wright and Bellinelli, I think this would benefit the Warriors…..That is of course, even if this trade were to happen.

All in all, our offensive output would go down, though I believe the efficiency will improve. Our defensive will dramatically increase with Chauncey, Jax, and Sheed being able to match up against ANY player in the league. This would effecitvely IMPROVE our squad and we’d have veteran/proven winners that could carry us past the first round of the playoffs.

Of course, if we could someway, manage to retain Baron(past this last year) and just at a dominant PF/C that can be an offensive threat/rebound,/ and defend. I’d much rather do that.

Justy my thoughts.

NOW! LET’S WIN! DO THE TRADE MULLIN! UNITE THE BAD BOYS OF THE NBA!

I will once again reiterate the fact that Chauncey Billups only thrived in his current situation because he was surrounded by a team that played great together. He isn’t even the best player on his team (I’d give that to Rip Hamilton).

Look at Billups’ stats with his previous teams. There is a great reason why he bounced around the league before settling with the Pistons. He was a shoot first point guard coming out of Colorado, only averaging 4.5 apg in his first six seasons. Sure, he is at 7 apg in the last three seasons in Detroit, but that’s still not great considering some of the hype everyone is giving him.

As far as his “shooting touch” he’s historically had a horrendous FG% in his NBA career, as he only averaged 40.5% before last season’s best of 45%. In all honesty, he only averaged that career high because of the structured offense that Flip Saunders ran in Detroit, but if you placed him on the Warriors, I could realistically see that number drop TREMENDOUSLY down to around the 40% realm.

He was an average defender at best as well. The only reason why he seemed to be a good defensive player was because there were players who could pick up the defensive slack for him when his opponent drove by him. Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince covered his defensive deficiencies. They masked it so well that everyone here thinks that he would be an upgrade on Davis defensively. I would extremely disagree. He is strong, but so is Baron Davis.

Baron Davis is quick enough to D up on point guards and can actually face up two guards with his strength (which is a big plus given Monta Ellis at the starting SG slot), where as Billups may be able to outmuscle some opposing point guards, but is certainly not quick enough or strong enough to make up for Ellis’s defensive deficiencies.

The only thing that I could honestly say that Billups is better than Baron Davis at is free throw percentage. But look at what happened to “Mr. Big Shot” in the playoffs. He missed KEY FREE THROWS! Choked. A choke artist. I wouldn’t want him on my team.

As for the Harrington for Wallace… I’d do it in a heartbeat if it were those two alone. Throw in Belinelli and the draft pick if you want.

In conclusion… HELL NO TO BILLUPS!

We got Kosta… Kuofus who will fit in perfectly in with our style. Probably once every so years to draft a legit 7 footer who can score all over the court. Hes also one of the more NBA Centers in this draft.

You are not allowed to say that word anywhere near a Warriors blog.