OPEN THREAD: Trade Exception Expires Today

by Fantasy Junkie on Jun 30, 2008 10:21 AM PDT Comment 26 comments

The Trade Exception expired today. It's been a year since the Warriors traded JRich for BWright and 9.9million. It's been a year that we've all learned what and how to use the exception. It's been a year of reading about proposed trades, some worthy of blog space, many not. Hopefully we can now only read ridiculous trade proposals that no longer include the exception and someone commenting "the trade exception cannot be combined blah blah blah".

The Warriors can use some of it, all of it, or most likely none of it. Today the trade exception will see its death. So for one last time, feel free to post any ridiculous trades in the comments. Here's mine:

9.9million TE + Monta for LeBron and Ben Wallace. Dubs do it because we get LeBron! I hate to see Monta go because I'm sure he'll be almost as good as LeBron. Cleveland does it because they get rid of Ben Wallace's contract and Monta is going to be amazing, an All-Star for many years. I don't know if it actually works salary wise because I'm too lazy to check it in the trade machine.

Welcome to the end of the trade exception and ridiculous trade proposals involving it. But there will not be an end to ridicluous trade proposals.

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Im glad to see the ridiculous trade proposals go stop or slow down

Was on a plane and sat next to a Portland Trailblazers fan. Oh man I think we talked hoops the whole plane ride (sorry to those around us trying to sleep). But we speculated on different trade scenarios and wtf the Blazers are going to do with the 40+ ppl on their roster.

TPE ends today, but the FA frenzy is beginning this week as well. So more hype and hoops talk to reduce work productivity!!!

by okonomiyaki on Jun 30, 2008 10:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Would never happen

TE+Baron for AI and J.R. Smith, we at least would get A.I.!, but hopefully we have baron,monta, and beans back and we get elton brand or camby! Champions 09

by Dub4lif3 on Jun 30, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We will never get LebRon, becaus the Nets are throwing away the next 2 years to

get him, and since Jay-z can’t rap like Biggie. Don’t believe me, ask Peter Vecsey.

Clearing cap room two years ahead of time on the belief James’ outwardly magnetic bond with Nets’ minority owner Jay-Z (it’s not as if he rhymes as tight as Biggie Smalls) will influence him to forsake his home state of Ohio is like building an elaborate spec house just across the Brooklyn Bridge in today’s saggy, baggy real estate market.
Yet here we have intrepid Nets’ owner Bruce Ratner (from Cleveland), no less doing both!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8288360/Nets-making-way-for-LBJ,-Class-of-2010

by theblackpearl on Jun 30, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i think fantasy junkie

is being satirizing the random and at times impossible rumors that are being proposed. i doubt fantasy junkie actually believes Cleveland would be that stupid.

by dj fuzzylogic on Jun 30, 2008 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

re: exeption

Silly uses of the exception aren’t worthy of the space to display them. But equally obnoxious is to somehow gloss over the possibility of not using it by setting up silly straw soldier arguements. We have a number of needs: 1) is for a bruising, scoring pf, 2) a good mid-level type vet pg, 3) bench players. A trade exception is a good way to pick off players when their teams are trying to shed contracts. It can be the center of a variety of deals that can help us fill our holes. Not silly AI or LeBron nonsense but such as Villanueva, etc. Even an expiring big contract in a rent-a-player situation. There is a cost, i.e., the salary for that player. Exceptions themselves can even be traded to teams to help them facilitate such a trade. But failure , once again, to meet our needs is to doom us to the norm for Cohan-Rowell and company, i.e. playoff futility. We FINALLY made the playoffs and immediately diluted the team by trading JR. WE still didn’t get that pf or upgrade our bench. Ok, we got the exception. Now to just “stand pat” with teams like Portland on our tails, and us on Denver’s, is just plain stupid. So why pretend otherwise?

by meir on Jun 30, 2008 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank the loard!

That the trade exemption is expired, gone and done with! Now we can focus on a) signing quality back ups, b) resigning Monta & Beans, and c) walking around with our heads cut off until the beginning of the pre-season (or at least until the olympics… it’s been four years since the bronze medal already?)

by Mr. Monday Night on Jun 30, 2008 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Well done FJ!

A fitting tribute to the end of an era.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jun 30, 2008 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I say...

dont use it just cuz, but use it if you are getting a quality player that can be that difference maker.

Possible players we can get with the TE (ouside of Wilcox,Watson):

Raymond Felton $3,274,440 2yrs- its a strech but they do have Augustin now so where does that put him?

Damon Jones $4,172,432 Exp.- Maybe a Plan C option if the Warriors cant land a PG either FA or trade. Hes been in Brown’s doghouse but is adequate enough to handle the point.

Javaris Crittenton $1,285,200 2yrs- Appears to be the odd one our in Memphis’ gaurd filled backcourt. Yet to show flashes since he road the bench most of the time, would be a nice heir to Baron.

by Spee-D on Jun 30, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Al+TA to LA for Kobe and 5 tons White Widow

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 30, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It hasn't expired yet...

But the exception is only hours away from going bye-bye like Gilbert.

If Cohan doesn’t use it, we truly know how cheap he is. The Warriors are right at the Luxury Tax after they eventually re-up Monta and Andris, but can’t Cohan afford it? Isn’t he a cable billionaire who owns a team in the most affluent area in the country, full of fans who love the team and pack 20,000 into Oracle every night?

Aren’t they charging $8 for beers and $10 for margaritas? Don’t half the fans in the arena own $100+ jerseys? How can Cohan look at the most loyal fanbase in California and say he can’t afford to use the exception because of the stupid luxury tax when the Warriors are in DIRE need of a backup PG? They can use a PF like Wilcox or Haslem too, but if they don’t get a backup Earl Watson (OK) or Leandro Barbosa (even better) so Baron isn’t exhausted by the end of the year, the Warriors are going to have a tough time making the playoffs.

by Bay Area Sports Guy on Jun 30, 2008 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

No chance

He answered the question last year when he traded away J-Rich. Cohan is not willing to pay the Luxury tax on a team that is a borderline playoff contender. If he was there is no doubt that the original deal would have never been made.

I can’t believe that people are surprised that they are letting the TPE expire. The J-Rich trade was a salary dump. After successfully dumping ten million in salary why would you just add more right before walking into renegotiation with Monta and AB. I’m sure that last year Mullin asked the question “will you go into the luxury tax to re-sign Monta and Andris?” The answer was apparently no, and guess what, the answer a year later is still no.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jun 30, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

TPE

I’ve been saying this since day one "The Warriors will not being using the TPE. We received the TPE to shed some money not to pick up more at a later date". Plus all the teams that don’t go over the Luxury Tax gets to spilt even the Luxury Tax. So When you go over not only do you have to pay double you lose a bunch of money also. The Warriors will not be using the TPE and they never planned to.

by Psion on Jun 30, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

how about...

I don’t think this one requires the TE, but how about Al Harrington and Belineli for Earl Watson and Chris Wilcox. It works on the Trade Machine. The Dubs get a backup PG and a force in the low post. Seattle gets rid of one of their PGs that they don’t need (the have luke ridnour and they just drafted westbrook). We could throw in a draft pick for next year if need be because we have plenty of young players that won’t even get to play this year.

by jakeaco on Jun 30, 2008 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

They're keeping Watson

to mentor his fellow Bruin, Westbrook

by pree on Jun 30, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

another crowning moment for our illustrious GM

With all due respect to Psion, and Pree, wasting the TPE both in the midst of a playoff run last year when we could have used it on say, Kurt Thomas or another useful big with an expiring contract, or this year in say, a trade with the #14 for a useful big like perhaps (fill in the blank) we get nada.

Mullin overpaid JRich, then let him go for beanpole 1.0 and some seeds. Even Johnny Appleseed threw them around. Hell, Jack & the Beanstalk was more productive than Mullin.

The TPE may expire today, but it lives on in the litany of Mullin’s mulligans.

by hardcore on Jun 30, 2008 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

"Mullin's mulligans"

Love it. That should be someone’s screen name…

Sign ^^^^ !!!

by Sleepy Freud on Jun 30, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I never thought it would be used, sorry

Look, it was all about keeping Monta and Biedrins. I thought they’d keep JRich at least for one more year, but they cashed it in when they had a chance to do so.

Here’s the big problem, though – an impactful big wasn’t going to just be made available for the TPE. They wanted a guy that could make a difference if they were going to pay the luxury tax – they couldn’t find him.

by pree on Jun 30, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you've been consistent

i just hated the message – and disagreed with the strategy

like you say, they could have likely made that deal this draft rather than last

i also pause to consider that if AR “slipped” to #14 and was such a steal there, why weren’t other teams looking to deal for that pick, and wouldn’t that have been an opportunity to spin the pick for a vet big utilizing the tpe? Rhetorical question, not asking you to answer that directly.

getting pretty fed up with the (lack of) GM success on balance

by hardcore on Jun 30, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't going to happen

I’ve always doubted Cohan’s desire to improve the team at his own expense. Then, a few weeks ago, Don Nelson said this during an interview with the Razor & Mr. T on KNBR, which made me 100% sure that the TPE wasn’t going to get used:

"We’re a team that doesn’t want to function over the cap. That’s pretty stupid if you’re a business man, to do that. Some teams can, and those teams that can are going to be better than the ones that can’t. But we’re one of those [teams] that [really doesn’t] want to do that."

http://media.knbr.com/knbr/0603nelson.mp3

by EternalWarriorsOptimist on Jun 30, 2008 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If we pry away one of

the BIG caliber type of players in 2010 I bet all of us will be thanking Mullin for not using the TPE.
It’s not that easy to find quality just for the money.If that was true Knicks would be a dynasty of this millenium.

by buky on Jun 30, 2008 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Get Haslam

Miami could use the $10M for Kirk Henrich

by yuman1234 on Jun 30, 2008 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

damn i knew it

we should just used the TPE to get elton brand. but since mr cheap ass cohan won’t do shyt about it, there no chance we get a all star pf now.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 30, 2008 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

So it looks like

the whole j-rich deal was a salary dump? You often hear how Mullin is “always looking to improve the roster”. You would think that over the past year a quality trade would have come down the pipes and he would have had the stones to pull the trigger!

by montasboy on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I am ready to start looking into am exit of my season tickets

I hate the Warriors 1st round draft choice again! The guy is a stick! The last thing we need is an undersized PF (whether the size is girth or height) we have a long history of failed experiments with little bigmen. The Warriors have an institutional blindness for bigmen we should only draft guards and small forwards (which the W’s do an excellent job of see Monta, MP, One Agent Zero, etc.) and trade them for our needs at bigman. Anyway today BD opted out of his contract. I don’t see how Mullin is going to continue to turn around this franchise I need to hear some reassurance about a plan to keep this franchise on the right track or I’m bailing.

by sleepyfan on Jun 30, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs