godddaammit i cant believe baron is doing this to us..

i see brand opt out not baron.

Geoff Lepper is also reporting it.

of Baron’s talk about how we wants to win championships with the W’s and how he loves playing in the bay was a bunch of BS. if baron wants to win a championship so bad he could have played for like 11 or 12 million a year (he’s got no kids to feed like spree so he can probably afford living on such meager wages) and let the warriors pick up some other studs…..barons jus about as phony as the city of Los Angeles that he came from

brand with bdiddy’s money now…either brand or we are going to face another long long playoff drought.

we have no point guard now.. whos going to sg and pg for us? can we really expect cj to play sg? and monta pg? man… baron better resign with us….

to be an “interesting” offseason. Let’s see what Mullin’s next step.

my boi BD opted out, we could goes for Elton Brand now, and pray AR could learn to get pg handles fast and hopefully turned himself into the next coming of Scottie Pippen by his 3th yrs. Hopefully we get Chris Duhun for cheap so we have enough time for AR to become a all star point forward.

now what?

THE WARRIORS ARE SCREWED

the GILBERT movement!. bring back arenas!

WTFBBQ? I guess he will find out where he’s really wanted. Remember when he first said he might opt because he felt he wasn’t wanted here because they weren’t willing to sign him to an extension so early?

where’d you hear this info? i havent seen anything at all on the internet yet and thats usually where info gets blown up first.

Brand would be nice in a Dubs uni, but can we afford all these guys?...Biedrins, Ellis and Brand? Baron could become the most hated man in Golden State Dubs basketball history.

until Baron realizes no one wants his bitch ass for 17 million a year

the man wanted a contract extension and Cohan wouldnt cough up the green. I dunno why this is so surprising—he’s got his future to think about and he aint got more than 3-4 years left in those legs.

Mullin better go start workin the phones double time…..

still waiting on confirmation of this but…

i posted this in another blog, but baron opting out is no big deal. we overachieved 2 seasons ago, and as such many warriors fans have a blown up opinion on the worth of our captains (davis and jackson) in regards to the future of the warriors. ellis, beans, wright, bellineli, randolph, hendrix…these guys are more then likely going to be the core of our team when we make a serious run at the playoffs, and if we lose davis and jackson along the way, we will likely be better off in the long run

and now Baron! the light at the end of the tunnel went out.

Where are we going? Is this a win-now team, or are we building for the future? The past few draft picks haven’t even gotten regular minutes. Doesn’t make me too hopeful for the future. I thought we were win-now but more and more it looks like we’re “building” for an uncertatin future. If I hear the word “upside” or “potential” to describe some of these guys anymore…...

If he wants a contract extension, opting out was probably a good move. It gives him some leverage to negotiate elsewhere, a real threat of “I’ll play elsewhere on the cheap to win”, and has him on the market after a healthy season rather than one of 4 consecutive break-down injury plagued ones. But if he does decide to go somewhere else on the cheap, it’s a limited number of bad teams that can offer him more than the MLE, and if he takes the MLE, it’s about 3 seasons before he’d make what he’d make next year by not opting out. That puts him at 32 or 33 when someone else has his Bird rights to give him a bigger payday, else he plays one year deals waiting for someone with cap space to offer him more. His agent would be a fool to do that, given his injury history, age and the realities of who has money.

Baron won’t make more money next year. He can’t. The max salary he can get is 105% of what he made last year or 30% of the total cap value, whichever is greater. Both look to be about the same, somewhere around $17.5 million. No one can offer him more than that even if they had the space. It’s all about the back end of a deal.

All of this means that while he may not be back, the odds of him leaving with us getting nothing in return is minimal. His leverage means giving up $10s of millions over his career in a manner that he’s unlikely to ever get back. I’d not worry about this one yet.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SWEET SWEET CAPSPACE!

I think he just opted out so he can get a different deal from the W’s, which would allow them to be more aggressive in the off-season. Really it makes sense since we haven’t used the TE yet.

Now if this isn’t the case then we might have the most cap space in the entire league. I want to see if we can sign two pretty good players or one star, and then just hold out until we can match Monta and Andris’ offers. Finally, its still possible the TE will land us someone.

baron has betrayed all of us…...his dunk over kirilenko wasn’t even that great lol

you suck. tear an ACL!

BAron I’ll miss you. I also heard that he didnt like Nellie

I like things that make life more interesting.

Its Don Nelson’s fault.

Damn, I got lied to about this as well.

He’s been trying to negotiate a long term contract even at a lower salary. We haven’t been negotiating. Just like we are playing hardball with Biedrins and Ellis figuring where can they go they’ll have to sign on the cheap. He could see we weren’t serious about even being an 8th seed playoff team. We drafted a skinny long term project. Let the exception go for nada. And planned on letting him play out his last year, maybe trading him someplace he didn’t want to go as an expiring contract player. Now he’s forced Mully’s hand. Either sign him to that ltc or do a sign and trade or he can even play for a mid level with the Lakers or more likely LAC will let Corey go and Brand will sign for a little less to let them sign Baron at less than he’s making here but to a longer contract. I say bully for him and shame on Mully and Cohan, and his running dog greaser P.R. guy in a Team President’s clothing. Face it, with Cohan we can never put two playoff teams out there in row and really Mully, who sounds like a learning handicap victim, had no gm experience and we got what Cohan was willing to pay for. Hard to be sanguine about this. If we resign him to a long term contract for less with a trade veto by him, we have our hands tied as he gets older. If we just let him walk, after trading JR for bupkis, and then not using the trade exception we got from that deal…well, what kind of message does it send prospective players? Fans?

This is awful news. Hello 94-2006 Warriors

Mullin needs to be replaced. First he signs Dun-Murph to stupid contracts, drafts POB and Kosta, lies and then trades J-Rich (where’s the loyalty?), and now fails to renegotiate Baron’s contract accordingly and respectfully.

What Nellie is thinking about this .. his last year and he’s going to potentially have a weaker roster. I can’t imagine he isn’t pushing something .. they won’t go down quietly, right?

damn

My goodness, let’s see what happens and stop all the hating on Baron especially, although I do agree about Cohan and Mully being cheap and short sited. But I am hoping all the haters will be eating their words in a day or two when Baron resigns a long term contract, although as meir aptly stated, he would blame Baron for opting out and playing for another Western Division team. It is clear the Dubs have no loyalty at all and are really looking at the bottom line. Sadly for us the last few years have lined Cohan’s pockets with sold out seasons and relatively huge ticket price increases.

Anyway, let’s see what happens before we go too nuts. After all, it’s not personal but business in the NBA.

is lame. and this is personal! i’m gonna lose sleep over this!!

Yes, Baron wants a longer contract but he’ll get it at the expense of yearly salary.
Which could clear cap space for more manuevers . . .

Can Mully uncork a good sign-and-trade? Buzz on the Dubs around the league
seems good – most offensive-minded players would come because of the breakneck
style and Nellie. This helps. It gives Mully options.

Anyone who signs Baron-and-his-No-Cartiledge Knees for longer than two years
is a dupe and a dope. Or put it this way: show me a GM with cap space and something
to prove. That might be the sucker to give Baron his moolah.

I am torn about this surprise, but in the end I think it will end up saving the Dubs money., whether they get Baron or sign-and-trade him. And don’t get pissed at Cohen or Mully for holding the line on Baron. Would you sign a guy to a long term deal with his knees?

That Brand – BD – Maggette confluence of free agents makes me think something’s up though.

BTW, both Peter Thibeaux and Chuck Aleksinas are still available . . .

Guys, you’re goin to be hearing a ton of rumors in the morning. Some of these are outlandish, but many are interesting.

Baron wants job security. That is a normal need. He wants a multi year deal. That is also a realistic idea. What would you do?
Get $17.8 mil for 1 year or….... $45-50 mil over 4-5 years..
(cuz if he gets hurt this season he may not get a chance to get a big contract has anyone considered he’s only 29…... thats prime for a basketball player.

The media and the warriors assumed he’d stay, well Baron just called their bluff. This always made more sense to me, for baron to take a risk and get his contract. He would probably take 12-14 mil per over 4-5 years and the Dubs could have the contract more backloaded, which would in fact help the warriors and save 4-5 mil this coming year.

There is definately some creative things to dubs can do to keep #5 in Oaktown. Give him his contract, Boom deserves it and we ain’t going nowhere the next couple of years without B.D.
Reality Check.

the warriors are not gonna b at the level they played this year if baron leaves. we’re gonna lack the dominate player/point guard position. i can honestly say i blame NELLIE. yeah yeah yeah playoffs last year. nellie knew the west got a million times better and stayed at the 8th seed the entire season only to get kicked at the last second. at the same time he was overplaying his starters: baron/monta/jax. our big 3 were lacking at the end of the season. NELLIE DOESNT USE ROOKS OR HIS BENCH: WOW WE GOT ANTHONY RANDOLPH AND HENDRIX CANT WAIT TILL THE ‘09-’10 SEASON TO SEE EM PLAY. nellie told baron he was gonna cut his minutes for the rooks which i thought was good but then baron opted out. AND WE DIDNT USE OUR 10 MILL TRADE EXPECTION WHAT A F*ING WASTE. yeah i got lots of stuff here but WE NEED BARON BACK PLAN AND SIMPLE

make it happen!

for less allowing Boom to sign on…

then there’s an LA I wouldn’t mind watching. (Screw the other LA)

Did Boom really have to opt out as late as he did? =(

So Antawn Jamison gets a 4 year $50 mill deal from the Wizards. He’s a fine player, but certainly not the most important guy on his team plus he’s 3 years older than BD. So if he gets $50, let’s say BD at the very least gets the same, maybe a little more (he’s a little more of a risk due to the attitude and injury history).

That means that all the W’s had to do was offer a minimum 3 year extension worth $33 mill to get him to stay, right? Seems reasonable I guess. Kawakami threw out a 2 yr $28 mill extension, which Mully supposedly offered, which in terms of $/yr is even better. IF all this were the case, and BD turned it down, I’m not sure what he’s looking for. If this is all about money, is there really anyone out there that’s going to give him 4 yr/$60, 5 yr/$70? I doubt it.

If TK is right and Mully did offer him a 2 yr $28 extension, that would make the next 3 years worth $47 mill. Sure his contract isn’t as long as Jamison’s, but he’s only $3 mill back, plus when that contract is up, he will be at the same age Jamison is now. Even if he falls back to the 60 games a year Baron, at age 32, he’s at least worth the mid-level exception to someone. Thinking in terms of finances alone, this doesn’t make the most sense.

won’t fly with a 2 year extension. He’s supposedly looking something in the 4-5 year range and it most likely will be at a minimum $15mm. If I remember correctly, the $17.8 is completely off the books. A 2 year extension would only be for 2 years…2010 he’d be a FA again.

If Brand were to sign on for less (as he’s stated he’s open to doing), they could sign Baron at that $15mm without exceeding the cap.

a 2 year extension would be ideal for us as it’d free us up for 2010, but only in a perfect world.

Since teh only other team that is gonna give baron an offer is the clips and they can only give him $12mm/year, we should offer baron a 5 year deal for $60-$65, saving us at least 5mm this year. Then we should trade Al Harrington to Memphis for Javaris Crittenton or Kyle Lowry to get rid of his contract. Then we should make a run at Josh Smith. Also we should let Pietrus go, keep kellenna, let go of barnes ,resign beans and monta. and if we have anything leftover sign an old big like magloire or kurt thomas.

pg: baron/crittenton
sg: monta/bellinelli
sf: sjax/kellena/AR
pf: josh smith/brandan wright/Hendrix
c: beans/magloire or kurt thomas

Or we could let Atlanta sign and trade Smith and salim stoudemire for Harrington and pietrus.

Is there any way we could land smith?

Wow, he just verbally agreed to sign with the Clippers. This was supposed to happen next year. Even if the Dubs weren’t going to win anything significant this year, it was really, really fun to watch them and Baron was a significant reason why. This really sucks, because at the very least if he doesn’t opt out we could have traded him. Now we have nothing to show for it except a fatter wallet for Cs Cn. Would have been good to know he was opting out before the draft, so we could have tried to draft a backup.

This really sucks, I’m going to go watch some Belinelli highlight clips on youtube to lull me into a false sense of security.

Also, Ron Artest is an idiot. Why would he tell everyone that he should have opted out afterwards? That’s asking for trouble. And possibly a discounted trade to the Warriors because he will demand a trade???

years $65 mm for Baron to go home….we could have given him that…but probably not 5 years…

He just wanted to go home.

you need to go to Seatown or Canada for that. Well, the long drive will soften the pain of losing BD .