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Baron Opts Out!

ESPNEWS is reporting Baron Davis is opting out. Nobody thought he would do this obviously. With Baron now opting out, what should the Warriors do, and is it possible they will have much cap space after re-signing Monta and Biedrins? (Does Monta Ellis become the point guard now or do they have to go after someone? Also, ESPNEWS is reporting that Elton Brand is also opting out. This summer just got a whole lot more interesting.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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NOOOOOOO!!!

godddaammit i cant believe baron is doing this to us..

by 3Kings650 on Jun 30, 2008 7:05 PM PDT   0 recs

DAM

I was just about to post this. but still dam noooooooooooo not another one of my jerseys gone, and yeah he may over shoot and have attitude problems but he was a leader on the team. he could put up with any player practically. and not to mention NO MORE JESSICA ALBA!!!! I WANNA CRY!!!

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 30, 2008 7:05 PM PDT   0 recs

no more jessica alba

makes me wanna cry too.

"it's like an alarm clock, WOOT WOOT!" -Bubb Rubb

by secret ASian man on Jun 30, 2008 9:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wtf?

i see brand opt out not baron.

by saintdee on Jun 30, 2008 7:06 PM PDT   0 recs

Both of them are.

Just saw both on the ticker on ESPN.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Clipper fan checking in...

It appears that we are in the same predicament. Sources indicate Brand is going to resign with the Clippers, at possibly the max. How do the W’s resign Davis? We all know only 2 teams out there have $$ to burn, and BDavis is NOT going to Memphis or the other team (which I cant remember now). Will he sign at a discounted rate? Here’s hoping BD stays with the W’s.

by Clip Show on Jun 30, 2008 7:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

the other team is you

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Beat me to the post. Haha.

Anywho, maybe, just maaaybe, he’s opting out so he can re-sign with us for less money. :)

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Jun 30, 2008 7:07 PM PDT   0 recs

Geoff Lepper is also reporting it.

by Saustown on Jun 30, 2008 7:10 PM PDT   0 recs

all

of Baron’s talk about how we wants to win championships with the W’s and how he loves playing in the bay was a bunch of BS. if baron wants to win a championship so bad he could have played for like 11 or 12 million a year (he’s got no kids to feed like spree so he can probably afford living on such meager wages) and let the warriors pick up some other studs…..barons jus about as phony as the city of Los Angeles that he came from

by 3Kings650 on Jun 30, 2008 7:10 PM PDT   0 recs

yeah

he should take 11 or 12 million a year. That way, Monta and Biedrins will get less greedy and take 5 mil a year each. Which leaves us with room to sign Brand! Pro hoops is a business. Next thing you are going to say is that Gilbert is a jerk because he left the Dubz for tons more money up front. Get real.

by misterjennings on Jul 1, 2008 6:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This could work out for both parties

Say we re-sign Baron for 4 and 48, that gives us at least an extra 6 million in cap space for this year to get ellis and biedrins signed.
Baron could be doing this to help our chances of winning a championship. Improving his cap number for this year could get us another free agent we thought we couldn’t obtain otherwise. Thoughts?

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Jun 30, 2008 7:13 PM PDT   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing

I doubt that he’s doing this to help the team, frankly. But, he may be taking a risk here, and it’s always possible that it plays out in our favor. I don’t imagine that any team is going to sign him outright to a deal that has a first-year salary of more than $17 mil. Even a four-year, $60 mil contract nets him $15 mil per year on average, with a starting salary closer to $13 mil. You think anybody is going to give him that much more money, with his injury history?

I’m thinking he’s opening himself up for the possibility of playing for the Clippers. If they re-sign Brand, our chances become a lot better of getting him cheaper than we had him for.

by ffgolden on Jun 30, 2008 7:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

man we gotta sign

brand with bdiddy’s money now…either brand or we are going to face another long long playoff drought.

by saintdee on Jun 30, 2008 7:13 PM PDT   0 recs

we won't get brand

if we don’t have davis. you either get both or neither, and we don’t have the resources to get both.

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Aint that sumthing...

hopefully karma hasnt come too soon to bit us. Hopefully he plans to re sign with us for a lower cost helping the Warriors sign key FA’s.

by Spee-D on Jun 30, 2008 7:14 PM PDT   0 recs

My name is Earl

let’s make a list of bad things we have done(and try to fix them) and karma will give us Lebron next year LOL.

by buky on Jun 30, 2008 7:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You watch Carson Daly too??!!??

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Jun 30, 2008 7:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

and effin

we have no point guard now.. whos going to sg and pg for us? can we really expect cj to play sg? and monta pg? man… baron better resign with us….

by saintdee on Jun 30, 2008 7:15 PM PDT   0 recs

it would be the other way around

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's going

to be an “interesting” offseason. Let’s see what Mullin’s next step.

by semarubaka on Jun 30, 2008 7:16 PM PDT   0 recs

Lets see if...

Cohan has the”you know what” to save our franchise. I say, MAKE IT RAIN!!!!!!

by Spee-D on Jun 30, 2008 7:19 PM PDT   0 recs

balls??

freakin cohan. we must have the cheapest and the most conservative owner in the damn world. he better let the money flow or else i saw we impeach him.

by GSwarrior on Jun 30, 2008 7:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

well since

my boi BD opted out, we could goes for Elton Brand now, and pray AR could learn to get pg handles fast and hopefully turned himself into the next coming of Scottie Pippen by his 3th yrs. Hopefully we get Chris Duhun for cheap so we have enough time for AR to become a all star point forward.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 30, 2008 7:27 PM PDT   0 recs

brand is going back to LA

and probably baron too

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

unless baron resigns with us..

THE WARRIORS ARE SCREWED

by 3Kings650 on Jun 30, 2008 7:30 PM PDT   0 recs

time to start

the GILBERT movement!. bring back arenas!

by llamalimbo1 on Jun 30, 2008 7:32 PM PDT   0 recs

no chance

Arenas said he’ll resign with the wizards if they resigned Jamison, which they did.

by 3Kings650 on Jun 30, 2008 7:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Baron also said he wouldn’t opt out of his contract, which he did, so who knows what will happen.

by Eggman on Jun 30, 2008 10:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG

WTFBBQ? I guess he will find out where he’s really wanted. Remember when he first said he might opt because he felt he wasn’t wanted here because they weren’t willing to sign him to an extension so early?

by saintfloppy on Jun 30, 2008 7:33 PM PDT   0 recs

confirmation

where’d you hear this info? i havent seen anything at all on the internet yet and thats usually where info gets blown up first.

by kyzah on Jun 30, 2008 7:39 PM PDT   0 recs

umm

janny hu has it, tim kawakami posted it, geoff lepper posted it… its everywhere.

by saintdee on Jun 30, 2008 7:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brand

Brand would be nice in a Dubs uni, but can we afford all these guys?...Biedrins, Ellis and Brand? Baron could become the most hated man in Golden State Dubs basketball history.

by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jun 30, 2008 7:40 PM PDT   0 recs

we could

it just cheap ass cohan that is holding it back. And the clippers too.

by warriorfan4life on Jun 30, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BD i will miss you

The Start Calling Anthony Randolph "AR" Movement

His nickname will be popular trust me>

OUR Owner is CHEAP................................. WHY?!WHY?!

Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

THE ONE WHO STARTED "AR".
THE ONE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

#435

by 61ixty on Jun 30, 2008 7:41 PM PDT   0 recs

i cant wait

until Baron realizes no one wants his bitch ass for 17 million a year

by 3Kings650 on Jun 30, 2008 7:44 PM PDT   0 recs

i dont know

there are really really dumb gm’s out there

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 30, 2008 8:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Baron's

not looking for 17 mil a year. He’s looking for a deal 4-5 year deal which is smart for someone pushing 30. Look at it from a business standpoint.

by misterjennings on Jul 1, 2008 6:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

the man wanted a contract extension and Cohan wouldnt cough up the green. I dunno why this is so surprising—he’s got his future to think about and he aint got more than 3-4 years left in those legs.

Mullin better go start workin the phones double time…..

by shiplombo on Jun 30, 2008 7:49 PM PDT   0 recs

agreed

i don’t blame BD for turnin down 17.8m. isn’t this just like the dubz to let their best player get away? if BD leaves and we don’t get another all star caliber player, i’m afraid another 13 yr playoff drought may be upon us

by rumpshaka on Jun 30, 2008 7:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is pretty much

what it comes down to. I feel no ill will towards the guy whatsoever. I will always cheer him on…you’re exactly right though, and it’s why the W’s couldn’t pay him what he wanted long term. Right now we’re set up to be very, very good in 4 years or so – right about when BD will be thinking about hanging it up.

Greg

by Gob on Jun 30, 2008 11:12 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

now we really need to use the te like i said in a comment before

if u even want a chance to be in the playoffs like i said in a comment on Trade Exception Not To Waste i posted kanye west i told u so and it will haunt us

The Start Calling Anthony Randolph "AR" Movement

His nickname will be popular trust me>

OUR Owner is CHEAP................................. WHY?!WHY?!

Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

THE ONE WHO STARTED "AR".
THE ONE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

#435

by 61ixty on Jun 30, 2008 7:58 PM PDT   0 recs

too late

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Start Cohan is Cheap Movement

that’s why bd’s gone good luck BD i won’t boo u

The Start Calling Anthony Randolph "AR" Movement

His nickname will be popular trust me>

OUR Owner is CHEAP................................. WHY?!WHY?!

Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

THE ONE WHO STARTED "AR".
THE ONE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

#435

by 61ixty on Jun 30, 2008 8:02 PM PDT   0 recs

dude, you should change your sig…we are all very proud of you for coming up with the nicknames, but i dont think we can hire paul allen as our owner…just sayin

The bases were drunk, and I painted the black with my best yakker. But blue squeezed me, and I went full. I came back with my heater, but the stick flares one the other way and the chalk flies for two bases. Three earnies! Next thing I know, skipper hooks me and I'm sipping suds with the clubby.

by Mike Hawk on Jun 30, 2008 8:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

rebuilding

still waiting on confirmation of this but…

i posted this in another blog, but baron opting out is no big deal. we overachieved 2 seasons ago, and as such many warriors fans have a blown up opinion on the worth of our captains (davis and jackson) in regards to the future of the warriors. ellis, beans, wright, bellineli, randolph, hendrix…these guys are more then likely going to be the core of our team when we make a serious run at the playoffs, and if we lose davis and jackson along the way, we will likely be better off in the long run

by kyzah on Jun 30, 2008 8:08 PM PDT   0 recs

it

was official when geoff lepper posted he called the warrior’s FO

by saintdee on Jun 30, 2008 8:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Damn...first JRich

and now Baron! the light at the end of the tunnel went out.

by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jun 30, 2008 8:14 PM PDT   0 recs

DIRECTION???

Where are we going? Is this a win-now team, or are we building for the future? The past few draft picks haven’t even gotten regular minutes. Doesn’t make me too hopeful for the future. I thought we were win-now but more and more it looks like we’re “building” for an uncertatin future. If I hear the word “upside” or “potential” to describe some of these guys anymore…...

by montasboy on Jun 30, 2008 8:17 PM PDT   0 recs

you'll upchuck?

Mullin may have to get off the fence and pick one of the forks in the road!

by hardcore on Jun 30, 2008 8:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If he wants a contract extension, opting out was probably a good move. It gives him some leverage to negotiate elsewhere, a real threat of “I’ll play elsewhere on the cheap to win”, and has him on the market after a healthy season rather than one of 4 consecutive break-down injury plagued ones. But if he does decide to go somewhere else on the cheap, it’s a limited number of bad teams that can offer him more than the MLE, and if he takes the MLE, it’s about 3 seasons before he’d make what he’d make next year by not opting out. That puts him at 32 or 33 when someone else has his Bird rights to give him a bigger payday, else he plays one year deals waiting for someone with cap space to offer him more. His agent would be a fool to do that, given his injury history, age and the realities of who has money.

Baron won’t make more money next year. He can’t. The max salary he can get is 105% of what he made last year or 30% of the total cap value, whichever is greater. Both look to be about the same, somewhere around $17.5 million. No one can offer him more than that even if they had the space. It’s all about the back end of a deal.

All of this means that while he may not be back, the odds of him leaving with us getting nothing in return is minimal. His leverage means giving up $10s of millions over his career in a manner that he’s unlikely to ever get back. I’d not worry about this one yet.

by jae on Jun 30, 2008 8:27 PM PDT   0 recs

WOOHOO!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SWEET SWEET CAPSPACE!

by xcoma on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM PDT   0 recs

i think he meant

capsLOCK

"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."

by GameSix on Jul 1, 2008 2:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

what a way to backstab us.

our city, our team, out motivation

by mikey rocks on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM PDT   0 recs

i'm mikey

i i i rock

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he just opted out so he can get a different deal from the W’s, which would allow them to be more aggressive in the off-season. Really it makes sense since we haven’t used the TE yet.

Now if this isn’t the case then we might have the most cap space in the entire league. I want to see if we can sign two pretty good players or one star, and then just hold out until we can match Monta and Andris’ offers. Finally, its still possible the TE will land us someone.

by joestar on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM PDT   0 recs

yea

he said he would not opt out

The Start Calling Anthony Randolph "AR" Movement

His nickname will be popular trust me>

OUR Owner is CHEAP................................. WHY?!WHY?!

Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

GSoM THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED "AR".
GSoM THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

#435

by 61ixty on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM PDT   0 recs

ok..

SO… who is a lock for sure to be in a dub uni? my guess is…. the fans. yep.. were the only ones that i am sure of that will be back next year for sure. even monta im unsure about. as long as Chris “Money Greed” Cohan is the owner. everything comes unexpectedly. Prove Me wrong Mr. Cohan… ON A LIGHTER NOTE, just watched a very quick segment on “25 minutes to go till free agency” with stuart scott and stephen a smith. Stephen A Smith mentioned GS as one of the possible destinations for a high-valued pg.. don’t needa tell you who it is… but it’s not b-diddy..

by mont8ellis on Jun 30, 2008 8:40 PM PDT   0 recs

ha

they raised the prices so much that they gonna be gone to. those ticket prices for marin and the rich east bay people, now that they gonna suck they won’t go so now the stands will will look like giants games. maybe up to heat games?!

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 30, 2008 8:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

but IF baron signs with the Heat then it’ll be the heat bandwagonners filling the seats… celtics 08-09 version.

by mont8ellis on Jun 30, 2008 8:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ha

nobody even watched the heat even in there championship season.

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 30, 2008 8:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

touché

"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."

by GameSix on Jul 1, 2008 2:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

part of the craziness

that is holding “alt” and hitting numbers on the number pad. this particular one is alt and 0, 2, 3, 3

"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."

by GameSix on Jul 2, 2008 12:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

use that te

The Start Calling Anthony Randolph "AR" Movement

His nickname will be popular trust me>

OUR Owner is CHEAP................................. WHY?!WHY?!

Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

GSoM THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED "AR".
GSoM THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

#435

by 61ixty on Jun 30, 2008 8:43 PM PDT   0 recs

Cohan And Co.

has less than 10 minutes to pull off some last minute magic.

by mont8ellis on Jun 30, 2008 8:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

just so people can believe it

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3468448
there ya go ahhhh

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 30, 2008 8:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Stephen A. Smith And Stuart Scott

On ESPN RIGHT NOW… Free Agencey has begun….

by mont8ellis on Jun 30, 2008 8:54 PM PDT   0 recs

OT: Got Boozer And Amare as my frontcourt beasts (Fantasy Draft NBA 2k8)

Trade T.J. Ford, Two First Rounders, And Barbosa For Steve Nash?

by mont8ellis on Jun 30, 2008 8:58 PM PDT   0 recs

and

the te is officially expired like milk in the fridge for a year

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jun 30, 2008 9:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Just Really thought of it..

Don’t know if this was posted up there yet but.. Its kinda funny that Baron said He would NOT opt out a couple days ago. Last minute… Magette Opts out… Brand Opts Out Right After….. Baron Opts out shorty after that… Is there a sign and trade deal in the works hidden by a smokescreen?

by mont8ellis on Jun 30, 2008 9:11 PM PDT   0 recs

It has to be unofficial. Teams cannot negotiate with other team’s players at this point. The Warriors couldn’t have spoken with Brand or Maggette to know they’d agree. Sure, under the table things happen, but after the Joe Smith incident, it’s clear that the NBA doesn’t take this lightly and if word did get out that there was contact with either, even if through an agent, it would at the least negate the deal.

It’s just a contract gamble for all involved.

by jae on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OR - are they ALL headed to the Heat?! BD to LAL?!

think about it for a second, absurd as it may sound – if they joined wade & marion at a bargain price for one year and won a ring … hell they’re all already multimillionares

there was a small story of Kobe & Baron hanging out last week, yucking it up in LA – could they have decided something?

all purely conjecture, but points to endless possibilities

and that includes GS – the possibilities to re-sculpt the roster are wide open

i’d go so far as to say Nelson’s tenure is in doubt now too …

by hardcore on Jun 30, 2008 9:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

baron has betrayed all of us…...his dunk over kirilenko wasn’t even that great lol

by Nellieball650 on Jun 30, 2008 9:15 PM PDT   0 recs

blasphemy

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 1, 2008 12:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I say we sign Corey Magette. We’d have Monta at point, Magette / Jackson 2-3, Wright, Biedrins. I think this would be a way more efficient squad. Not to knock on BD but this past season he really pissed me off on alot of the games. He took too many selfish shots and played some very lazy defense. Magette is a great 3 point shooter and we all know how many the warriors like to take.

by bojangles408 on Jun 30, 2008 9:16 PM PDT   0 recs

yes

do it and then you will enjoy the crazy lock down D that Maggette brings night in and night out. Give me a break.

by misterjennings on Jul 1, 2008 6:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs