my only agreement with you is about Turiaf. otherwise, mullins been doin a great job these last few seasons once he realized goofy tall white guys (dunmurphy) werent too good at basketball. maggette is a player that will thrive under nelson’s system, not to mention we would have never signed him unless baron had left, in regards to your comments about signing an injury prone player.

Finally, you call yourself a warriors fan but yet your not looking forward to this season?

Maggette is a terrible complement to what the Warriors have, and spending money on the lowest-value position on the floor (with the most viable alternatives) is exactly the way to stay irrelevant.

I’m petrified the Warriors are going into what I’ve called “Sixerland” for years- just good enough to narrowly miss the playoffs and not get an impact player in the draft (too low a pick, though Mullin would screw that up probably too) and too much money tied up in other players to sign a free agent.

Assuming Monta and Beans are back in the fold, the Warriors will have somewhere near $33.5m committed for those three players ($10.3m for Maggs, $23.5 for ME/AB with the 10% raises). So a team without a PG or PF only has around $30m to have the rest of a team.

I don’t see why we couldn’t play Turiaf with Beans/Wright….I’ve had to suffer through way too many Lakers games thanks to my husband and Turiaf is the only one in gold and purple that I liked….Sure he’s no offensive beast but he has way more of a jumper than Beans (don’t really know about Wright yet) and can hit it with some consistency.

Personally, I think the Warriors really need someone like Turiaf coming off the bench…pure energy & focus on defense and rebounding, not going to worry about his points or minutes, a good team player who will always give 110%...plus like I said, he does have a relatively consisten jumpshot

His comments make it sound like he’s been anticipating all of these moves and they have been very deliberately thought out and planned. I wonder. Initially it all seems like knee-jerk reactions to offset the embarrassment of losing Baron. It would be interesting to see if he had any preliminary talks with Areanes and Brand’s agents before he started to throw out all of those high priced bids.

The big test will be if and when he signs AB and Monte. He’s been talking about it, but if they are the centerpieces of the franchise, you’d think they would be closer to doing the deal.

Finally, a group that does not blindly follow Mullin. dprodigy19 is right, we’ve always been not good enough for the playoffs, but not bad enough for a high pick. Warriors should just bite the bullet and let Wright and Bellinelli start and if we end up with 15 wins next season, so be it. By then we’d really know if this young corp has a chance in hell to run with the big boys in the west. On top of that, we’d have a high pick and a ton of money for next year’s crop of free agents. That’s how you rebuild a team (Miami). The past 10 off-seasons have pretty much played out the same way going back to St. Jean. Paying too much for mediocre free agents, rationalizing to themselves that there might be some sort of hidden value yet to be unlocked within them (Caffey for $35 million among others, and pretty much every Mullin signing). It didn’t help that Mullin was groomed by St. Jean in this kind of environment. Panicky and hair-triggered. The Warriors have no history in landing superstar players through free agency so any expectations regarding next year’s crop with Mullin at the helm is somewhat of a pipedream. Twardzik deserves just as much blame for his tenure, but 10 years should have been plenty of time to right this ship. Let’s hope that when Nellie leaves, the team doesn’t implode.

1) They’ve made some good moves, but the Heat are the reigning worst team in basketball… let’s not call them “rebuilt” just yet. We were one of the very worst teams in the league several times in the Dark Era; we should know it’s not a given that teams like that can easily improve. Besides, fuck the Heat and their tanking. I’m not down with anything like that.

2) If we re-signed Beans, Monta and ‘Buike, and made no other moves, yes, we’d have cap space next year. We wouldn’t have the most cap space, or anything like it. What’s our plan? There are a lot of great players that could become unrestricted, but most won’t. Essentially we’d be in the same position a year from now: losing out on the bidding for a guy like Boozer to a team with more to offer (more money, better team, more attractive place to play), or we’d be overpaying for Drew Gooden or some shit.

Once Monta and Beans are resigned, we’re just not going to be a top-tier free agency player. You can say we could just trade away Harrington and Jack for even more space, but that’s not going to happen… almost every team, like us, wants to get rid of guys like that for space. This is really the only time we’ll be able to spend. I wish we’d have netted something a little sexier than Maggette and Turiaf (though to be fair the summer’s far from over), but I certainly don’t think it’s a disaster. Those guys will help our basketball team.

Fire Mullin?

Who traded Dale Davis for Baron Davis?
Who traded Dunleavy & Murphy for Jackson & Harrington?
Who drafted Andris Biedrins & Monta Ellis?
Who dumped a terrible JRich contract for a potential star in BWright?
Think again.

Maggette was a bad signing at $10M/year?

Maggette is better than JRich, and will be making $3M/year less. Pietrus signed for $6M/year, Jason Terry makes $10M/year, Jamal Crawford makes $10M/year. I don’t think you understand the NBA payscale.

You’re sad that we didn’t pay Baron $13M/year for 5 YEARS!?

I agree that he’s worth at least $13M/year, but NOT for 5 years. That is crazy talk. You really think he won’t blow his twice surgically repaired knee out? Baron has two bad knees, a bad back, and a TERRIBLE work ethic. I’d be surprised if he makes it 3 more years (he’ll be 32). Sure Maggette will miss about 10g/year due to little injuries here and there (because he’s constantly smashing to the hoop and getting to the line), but he’s a much better bet to be a good player in 4-5 years.

Ronny Turiaf doesn’t fit?

Do you even watch basketball? Turiaf is a perfect fit for this team. He is a banger, and a big time energy player with some pretty good speed, athleticism, and length. He can rebound, block shots, and pass pretty well too (had about 10 games with 5+ assists).

I’ve heard so much dumping on all the Warrior moves thusfar, and I really don’t understand it. Guess you haven’t been a warrior fan or watching basketball as long as I have, but I know what a bad team looks like, and frankly this still looks like a borderline playoff team. Mully is doing a great job!