Clippers renounce rights to Livingston, four other players

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 12:08 PM PDT Comment 19 comments

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Clippers said Wednesday that they had renounced their rights to Shaun Livingston, the recuperating guard who is an unrestricted free agent, and four other players.

Shaun Livingston

Livingston

The other players are Dan Dickau, Boniface Ndong, Smush Parker and James Singleton.

Livingston, taken by Los Angeles as the fourth overall pick in the 2004 NBA draft, hasn't played since injuring his left knee in a game on Feb. 26, 2007.

The Clippers declined to give him a $5.8 million qualifying offer this summer.

According to the NBA collective bargaining agreement, a renounced player no longer counts toward team salary, so teams use renouncement to gain additional cap room. A team can still re-sign such a player, but the team must either have enough salary cap room to fit the salary, or sign the player using the minimum salary exception.

After renouncing a player, a team also can trade him in a sign-and-trade agreement.

Heres the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3481262

Here are his stats

Career Season Averages

Career Season Averages

Year	Team	G	GS	MPG	FG%	3P%	FT%	OFF	DEF	RPG	APG	SPG	BPG	TO	PF	PPG
04-05	LAC	30	15	27.1	0.414	0.000	0.746	0.7	2.2	3.0	5.0	1.1	0.4	2.50	2.70	7.4
05-06	LAC	61	14	25.0	0.427	0.125	0.688	0.7	2.3	3.0	4.5	0.8	0.5	1.82	2.60	5.8
06-07	LAC	54	31	29.8	0.463	0.313	0.707	1.0	2.4	3.4	5.1	1.1	0.5	2.00	2.50	9.3
Career	--	145	60	27.2	0.440	0.231	0.710	0.8	2.3	3.1	4.8	0.9	0.5	2.03	2.60	7.4

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sign livingston and a memphis pg?

Why not get either Lowry or Crittenton (sp?) to play point, keep Monta at 2, have sjax be the three, Maggette be the energy 6th man guy?
In addition, why not sign Livingston for cheap and have him continue his rehab and comeback with us – especially if the Memphis guard doesn’t pan out. Livingston has more talent than any of these cats in the PG spot – including Monta. Maybe by 2010 he is the starting PG.

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by buttafingas on Jul 10, 2008 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m all for adding Livingston and maybe Lowry, but there’s a good argument against the lineup you propose: it puts a much worse player in the starting lineup. Why realign the team so that our best five players can’t play together?

Monta/Jack/Maggette/Al/Biedrins is a significantly better rebounding, defensive and scoring team than Lowry/Monta/Jack/Al/Biedrins. It’s a worse passing team, yeah, but are we so terrified of Monta’s PG abilities that we should downgrade every other part of our team to avoid them?

by onlxn on Jul 10, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

besides who would guard the 2 if both Lowry and Monta were to start? Plus how would Lowry start over Maggette, Belinelli or Buike if we did resign him?

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why realign the team so that our best five players can’t play together?

Cause they gotta play a whole game so need flexibility in the rotation. The starters don’t play the whole game or even the most minutes sometimes, we need a better point guard for the times we need a better point guard, Montay won’t do in those times so yeah we are terrified of his abilities.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not saying we shouldn’t add another point—we should. I’m just saying that ideally, your five best players can play together. Monta/Jackson/Maggette/PF (Al or, if he’s traded, Wright)/Biedrins is our best fivesome. It’d be better to see what they can do together than to immediately move to a weaker starting lineup.

by onlxn on Jul 10, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

let livingston rehab with us.

he could be really good if he bulks up

by dancingchiapet on Jul 10, 2008 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I would love to give Livingston a chance

at the league minimum. He’s worth that much for a 2 year league minimum deal

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 10, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yup

cheap 6’7” PG who has a lot of upside and promise if his injury does heal.

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's worth more

3 years, $13m, then a team option for a 4th year.

I have my own site and I’ve done draft stuff for about 10 years, and Livingston is the #2 PG prospect I’ve seen (behind Chris Paul)

by dprodigy19 on Jul 10, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm sold on Livingston.

He’s got excellent handles, court vision, passing ability, and athleticism. Plus, he can shoot the ball a little bit. I think it would be a good chance to take.

How is he defensively? And is he big enough to guard big 2 guards when he plays with Monta?

by arsunik on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

certainly tall enough

but he’d have to add some bulk to be a real defensive presence.

by sam23 on Jul 10, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Source: USA Today

The source also said that Livingston can’t work out on back to back days and needs extensive therapy before doing non-contact basketball drills.

He’s going to be a while.

by Jynx-Removing on Jul 10, 2008 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

looks like

clips r gunna make a serious run for restricted free agents(smith, iggy).

by GSwarrior on Jul 10, 2008 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

and okafor

who might be the best fit for them

by sam23 on Jul 10, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

im

all for livingston he would compliment ellis well with his size…it would be a risk but it would be worth it. he has a bunch of talent and potential

by gorillas on Jul 10, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

There is still a strong possibilty

That he never plays another game again, to say hes worth 3 years at 13 million is ridiculous. The key word to him being the second best prospect behind Paul, WAS. He WAS the second best prospect, that was until he proved that a gust of wind can knock him over, or bend his leg into a pretzel. But if you sign him to the minimum then its ok.

by pbra17 on Jul 10, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I would most definitely

Take Livingston because of his low risk & high reward. He’s a player who was playing fairly good pre-injury and I believe that he would be a great addition to the team because we could very well go BIG while being small when having 2 play makers simultaneously. His stats are very descent for someone 3 years into the league, of course it’s not LeBron or Carmelo stats of course but descent.

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Livingston

Do we all believe that the other teams don’t know about livingston? What are the reasons he would jump in here for no money? Where’s he from? Where would he like to be during this tough time in his life? What could we offer him to make it easier? Does Mullin care about him? Does the team have doctors able to evaluate his recovery prospects? Not as simple as saying he was 2nd to CP3 .

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2008 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm Surprised No One Has Even Mentioned...

...this more important tidbit from the article. Namely, James Singleton was also renounced! Poor James Singleton! Maybe we should take a flyer on him – I mean Boyz n Da Hood was pretty good.

by Hoopachoo on Jul 10, 2008 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs