Summer Scout: More "Randy", Marco stuff
OK, so we've talked in general about some of Anthony Randolph's strengths and how it may portend an interesting Mully-ball era that could be the successor to Nellie-ball. After watching today's Warrior Summer League finale against the Raptors, which incidentally was without Brandan Wright ("B-Wright") due to a leg injury, let's add a few addendums for Randolph and Marco Bellinelli...
- The Warriors coaching staff (and players, I assume) are calling him "Randolph", "Randy", or "Rand", but almost never "Anthony".
- Summer League coach Keith Smart's offense is most definitely revolving around Randolph, at least when first starting the game, even more-so than Bellinelli. Smart interestingly uses a big tear-off memo pad (with basketball halfcourt lines already drawn in, of course) and a marker instead of the more popular dry-erase board when diagramming plays. Maybe they pin those up for classroom-type discussion later in practices? Early in the game, he had a picture of an "AD" circled in the middle, with another circled "1" and the requisite arrows. Basically it's the high pick-and-roll off of Randolph that you've been seeing in the Warriors' Summer League games. After the timeout, the 1 for the play was Belinelli, who came in to replace DeMarcus Nelson.
- It turns out, Randolph does have a spin move, but the one time he used it he could not, as usual, finish strong enough near the rim and got swatted. That's been a recurring problem, finishing at the rim. He either makes, misses (and 50% of the time quite badly), gets swatted, or throws his body into harm's way to draw the free throws. This is no surprise when you are rail thin in the upper body and otherwise lack overwhelming body control. Wright has the same issue. Only on rare occasions is there a teardrop swish or fadaway make by either player, and those are always kind of all-or-nothing since the defense will likely get the rebound if you miss a finesse move. Then again, Randolph is getting to the free throw line a lot -- B-Wright has not been.
- Randy's got a long, long way to go on learning the basics of team defense in the NBA. Early in the game, Smart caught Randolph with his brain stuck in neutral, in normal ball-you-man weak-side defense when he was supposed to double the strong-side baseline post. By the time Smart yelled, "Red, Anthony!" (I guess that was the one time I heard someone call him "Anthony" and guess what, he didn't really respond, did he?), Randolph was too late on the double and his original cover got the pass towards the hoop, easy layup.
- Randolph often turns his back to the ball when he is weakside, which is a cardinal sin of fundamental man-to-man defense. As a result, and with his brain often stuck in neutral on defense, at 6'10" with a 7-foot-plus wingspan, unfortunately Randolph has almost nothing to offer in the form of help defense. Someone sit him down in a room with tapes of Marcus Camby, please.
- With regard to ball-hogging in Summer League, I'll delve a bit more into this topic in my next post summarizing all the other teams I saw, but there was a funny sequence late in the game where Randy did some "ballhogging". Shooting guard Mykal Riley (pronounced "Mikhail") of Alabama was wide open in the corner as Randolph drove inside and drew one of his many trips to the line. Standing at halfcourt during Randy's free throws, Riley shook his head, turning to Smart. Smart smiled back, as he always does, and said sarcastically, "Don't get cold, Riley!"
- Wright didn't have too many flashes against the Kings yesterday, but come to think of it, last year in the regular season, he did have some flashes. So I wouldn't be too worried about it and that might even make you feel better about the potential of Randolph in a real NBA game, too. Wright is also having some difficulties with the X's and O's. On the last play, with the Warriors down by three, one of the options on the out-of-bounds was a lob to Wright, which Smart had to point out after the buzzer sounded.
Now, please don't be too concerned about Belinelli...
- Marco went on another shooting slump before finally hitting an open three, to which he shook his head, slapped his own thigh, as if to say, "At last!" However, one thing I'm impressed with is, during that whole slump, he never showed any frustration. He just kept playing. The only time he showed any emotion about his misses was when he made one to end the string.
- Belinelli has not been concerned about his point totals. Early in the game, playing point, he encouraged teammate and Georgia Tech product Anthony Morrow to shoot the three after passing one up the last time down. When Marco found Morrow a few plays later for an open trey, Marco pumped his fist and nodded in approval. I get the sense, even aside from this particular game in which he played a lot of point guard, during the last two weeks his approach to this year's Summer League has been different than last year's. Even in the previous game against the Kings, Belinelli made one too many a pass on a fast break, which led to Smart telling him, "Marco, you had a layup." Last year was his coming-out party. This year, he wants to be a more complete player and get his teammates involved. This can, often times, lead to turnovers, if not blown assists.
- Marco's passes are really pretty. He's especially good at dribbling by a pick-and-roll, then doing a no-look back to the roller. If he dribbles hard one way and the defender hedges, he'll pass back up top via behind-the-back. And one time, off of a baseline in-bound, he got stuck in the corner with a double-team, lunged almost out of bounds and somehow found a teammate on the opposite corner with a long bounce pass for a three-pointer.
- However, one of two major knocks I still have is, he's reluctant to cut inside off-ball and offensive rebound. Son, this is the NBA. The day that fear goes away is the day you become a true professional. I don't care how much less you weigh than everyone else. You need to do it to keep your defender honest.
- The other thing that bothers me about Belinelli is his man-to-man defense is, at times, terrible. Early on, guys were penetrating past him almost at will. He later stepped it up a bit, but I just wish he would bend his knees a little more and give me the classic defensive stance. Squats and stronger quads are usually helpful with such an endeavor.
- Although he does in general seem to be taking Summer League with a grain of salt, Belinelli's still got a competitive fire burning. The two times that the smaller 6'3" former Duke player Daniel Ewing scored on him, Marco came right back with a little ball-hogging of his own and took it to Ewing. The first time, he got revenge with his own stop-and-pop trey. But the second time, he got swatted real bad on help defense by one of the Raptors' frontline bench players, although he did beat Ewing off the dribble to begin with. Incidentally, the three people sitting behind me were Ewing's family members.
Other tidbits from this game...
- During warmups, I noticed that B-Wright and CJ Watson were in street clothes. Since I get nervous talking to famous people, I saw a guy who was collecting autographs of various players all day and told him, "Hey, there's Brandan Wright, go get his autograph and, while you're at it, ask him why he's not playing." After getting the autograph, which was lucky because B-Wright said no to a kid with a mini-basketball right after that, the dude came back and said, "He's got a leg injury. I told him, 'Yeah, right, you know you got that at the club last night,' at which point the coach [Smart] said, 'I knew it! We gotta do something about that, man!'"
- Laker sage Tex Winter arrived at the scene with his wife, realized there were not too many empty seats left behind the teams' benches, and proceeded to walk her, hand-in-hand, along the very visible area behind the Cox Pavilion hoop stanchions, to the other side of the stands. What a cute couple, both of them with white hair. Isn't it amazing that Tex is probably older than your grandfather and yet he's still on the bench of every Laker game with Phil Jackson? Kinda like how Alfred is to the Batman.
- Interestingly, the Lakers were about to start play at Thomas & Mack, but Tex and his wife were staying put for the time being. Last year, when Tex sat near me, he was always taking notes. I'm not sure if he was taking notes this time around. Anyways, he stayed the better part of the first quarter. He must've been checking out Randolph. After all, Tex wasn't watching the Lakers and, quite honestly, there's nobody on the Raptors roster worth looking at.
- Rony Turiaf took a peek into Cox early on, then disappeared. Later on, I caught the last 20 minutes of the Lakers-Nuggets game at Thomas & Mack and, lo and behold, during a timeout, Turiaf's rebounding for a kid who is participating in a quick free-throw contest. I guess Rony forgot the Lakers failed to match last night. I guess he didn't catch much of the Warriors-Mavericks playoffs last year either. There were a ton of Laker fans at Thomas & Mack and they gave him a nice applause, but dude, we Warrior fans are gonna love you more than those Laker fans ever could. C'mon, show some love for your new team.
- Chris Mullin and Don Nelson had a very lively discussion going on up there in the stands. Lots of head-nodding.
- I love watching Keith Smart coach. He just doesn't get all riled up and is a very positive teacher. He doesn't worry too much about the refs unless it's a blatantly bad call on Randy, B-Wright, or Marco. Even then, he prefers a tempered approach. For example, there was a big non-call on a Randolph drive, resulting in a fast-break the other way for the Raptors. He got an explanation from the ref during the ensuing free throws and actually nodded his head and said, "OK, my bad" after hearing the explanation. Lots of times when things go wrong, he'll just smile and accept the fact that rookies are making rookie mistakes. In general, most Summer League coaches are good about that and almost never negatively yell at any players (I have yet to see it happen in two years), but Smart goes the extra mile with his smile. One time, Riley stole an inbounds pass, only to dribble the ball right back out of bounds on what should have been an easy layup. At the next timeout, as Riley walked towards Smart to sit down, Riley got the patented Smart smile. Smart obviously "gets it" and I think in this day and age of NBA coaching/psychology, with the youth movement and evolving style of play of the Association, Smart is destined to be an NBA head coach someday.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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+1
Excellent stuff dreamleague, especially good for people who didn’t see all of the the games (like me – I only saw 3 of them). Randolph does have a long way to go before he will be an NBA starter (in my opinion) but he has put in some impressive performances and hopefully he will continue doing so. We know Belinelli can shoot and it was important that he improved his passing skills, which he has done. The next aim for him is to improve his defense.
As lightz0ut said, keep it up.
by zaki on Jul 20, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you so much
it is great reading, and provides info we would never get in a newspaper or on ESPN.
I don’t worry about Wright or Randolph, they are tall, long and quick and you cannot teach that. To me Wright is going to be a Kirilenko some day, maybe not as good a shot, but a defensive presence that is very disruptive. Nellie will make Randolph a point forward along with Jackson so from my point of view, all this talk about needing a point guard is silly. My question to people that say we need a point guard, did the Celtics or Lakers play in the finals because of their point guards? Would either team trade their point guard for Monta Ellis? Enough said.
by Laoren on Jul 20, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nellie will make Randolph a point forward , all this talk about needing a point guard is silly.
How long till Randolph can play effectively in the NBA? We’ve got a season to play now , ready or not. It’s silly to play without experienced players at any position, including point.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 21, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not silly if you're tanking with an eye towards an apparently PG rich draft...
But seriously though… anybody who EXPECTS a rookie to come in and contribute will be sadly mistaken 90% of the time.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
asdf
if i could rec it twice -i would do that
Great read
and now -please -something about Hendrix
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on Jul 20, 2008 11:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great
Awesome stuff man. I don’t know why you’re writing isn’t up on the front page. Keep it up!
by dandydaniel on Jul 21, 2008 3:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Kinda sad that the latest Harrington-for-LeBron fantasy can get a couple hundred hits, while a brilliant diary like this can slip through the cracks. Thank God (i.e. SBNation) for the rec function! Seriously, you can comb the internet for weeks and not find a Warriors’ piece as insightful, thorough, and sharply written as this one. Props.
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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 21, 2008 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy
Yeah I was seeing the same thing out of him too. He’s got spin moves and shakes and a variety of ways to get to the basket. But he was not finishing it. He would either miss the close shot or get fouled- which that is a positive. But the kid does have moves and handles, reminds me so much of Odom.
Put a little mustard on it
by The Barnes Supremacy on Jul 21, 2008 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wright
brandan refused to sign an autograph for a kid with a mini basketball??? especially after signing for this grown dude you mentioned…
man i feel bad for the kid and i dunno how i feel about brandan right now…
good looking out and good to hear about belinelli tho…
by gogoldenbears on Jul 21, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, one of my friends said people were comparing Randolph to Odom during the draft. The only caveat I would say is, I’m not sure Odom has a 7-foot wingspan, which keeps Randolph’s “uniqueness” intact. Incidentally, Randolph has a better shot and better moves than Odom. Conversely, Odom is tougher underneath. Curiously, they are both left-handed.
As for the kid with the mini-basketball not getting an autograph from BW, yeah, I couldn’t believe it either. The kid was with his mom, sitting in my row. He’s a shy kid, but still looking around for players (whom he probably has never heard of) to autograph his mini-ball. He didn’t know who B-Wright or CJ were, of course.
I felt really bad because I had first coaxed the kid into going up to BW and CJ and the kid was just too shy to ask, even though he went all the way down to the bench area. Then when the other guy got the autograph, I told the kid to try again and that’s when BW straight out rejected him. I would’ve done it myself, but first of all, it was a few rows down and I was pretty comfortable already sitting where I was at. I don’t really like approaching NBA players because (a) I don’t have a media credential and (b) I truly do not care about signatures on a piece of paper or what have you, and that’s what they’re thinking when you approach them, that you want to take some valuable time out of their day for an autograph. So yeah, I used the kid to try and get him an easy autograph in exchange for information on BW and/or CJ. Sorry, kid. Poor kid really went 0-for-2 in the quest to obtain said autograph from Brandan Wright, all because of me. I suppose Brandan didn’t want to set a precedent. He didn’t want a bunch of other kids coming up to him before tipoff, I guess.
Btw, I have no aspirations to obtain a media credential. I’d prefer to call what I do “observing” as opposed to “reporting”. I am not a “journalist”.
Incidentally, CJ was in the lobby area after the game, just chatting with a couple friends with no bystanders even having an inkling that he has a contract with the Warriors. So if you’re into getting autographs from less famous or soon-to-be-famous NBA players, Summer League is the place to go.
Hey guys, thanks for the props. I really appreciate it. To be honest - and I wouldn’t be surprised if the GSOM founders feel the same way - lots of times when I post something, I almost dread reading the comments because you never know if someone is gonna say something hurtful. Overall, though I’d say that GSOM really has great subscribership, much less of a minefield than most other hoops forums. As some of you know, I run a recreational basketball league; we used to have a forum but I took it down for this very reason—I’d feel safer posting something here than with my own people, haha!
Poor Man's Commish
by dreamleague on Jul 21, 2008 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that the truth?
I check in on other blogs from time to time, and once in awhile make a comment. On some blogs it is not worth it because of all the personal attacks. I like GSM because you can express your thoughts and not be attacked. It is fine if people disagree but personal attacks get weary real fast. Keep up the good work, it is really interesting reading.
by Laoren on Jul 21, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told the kid to try again and that’s when BW straight out rejected him.
Why dint you go down and point out to Wright that it was not a cool thing for him to do? Maybe he would respond positively? If not you’d at least know what kind of person he is?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 21, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandan Wright
is a nobody. who the hell think he is? The hype of thinking he got skills to be star has got to his head. For god sake, he rejected to sign the mini-ball for a kid. He haven’t proven shit so far. I could see how Ewing and MJ has rejects giving fan autograph, but they were well-known nba legend and didn’t really wants to deal with hella fans. btw during the 05-06 season, Mario Eile came over to gave me a real J-rich orange hand band when they were playing the sonics . well, i was rocking a J-rich jersey,marching hat and Jordan XIII low. but, my point is he was a ass for doing that to the kid sitting with his mom thou.
by warriorfan4life on Jul 21, 2008 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When I was a kid
I asked Dennis Eckersley (Former A’s closer, one of my favorites at the time) for an autograph. I’m from Oakland, always followed bay area sports. He said “NO, its raining outside”. He thought it would get messed up. I still remember that like 15 years later. Asshole.
Put a little mustard on it
by The Barnes Supremacy on Jul 22, 2008 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't autograph your
kids ball either.
by smearthebeard on Jul 22, 2008 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No point of judging B Wright for not signing the ball, you can’t assume he didn’t have a reason. He seems like a good kid judging from his blogs and his interviews and composure and stuff. Sucks for the kid though.
by belilaugh on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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