Warriors Match Clippers Offer To Azubuike
by semarubaka on Jul 24, 2008 1:31 PM PDT
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53731/20080724/warriors_match_clippers_offer_to_azubuike/
So Mullin decided to match the offer, I don't know if it's a good move for that kind of money (probably a bit much). Anyway, at least we won't see Buki develop with another team. So those of you likes Azubuike's game (or arms, lol) can rejoice!
Does that mean the deal with Evans fall through? I doubt they're going to sign another player that plays the same position. I think we can expect Monta's and Biedrins' contracts soon.
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this means
1. Evans thought that W’s are cash cow
2. most likely ME and AB contracts will be signed this week
build a team & destroy the roof
by Lat We N Trash on Jul 24, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans thought that W’s are cash cow
I agree with you. I think after the way W’s went on the shopping spree this summer handed out contracts, he thought he could make a real good penny here. I’m glad we sent a message that we are still responsible. Azubuike is a great player that will bring lots of energy. Love them matching the offer.
by RogiSF2000 on Jul 24, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOOOOOOOOO
YEAAAAAAAAAAAA
our city, our team, our motivation
by mikey rocks on Jul 24, 2008 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So Long Maruice Evans
We hardly knew ya’.
Sounds like the $six million deal was Evan’s for the taking, he just got a bit greedy. Let’s see if he does better elsewhere.
I’m more comfortable with signing Buike. The $milion more per year is worth the potential improvement over Evans. Right now, they are fairly even players, but Kaz is 5 1/2 years younger. Also, the deal is fair value (thanks Clippers!). Buike has an OK shot at being an above average player, a pretty good shot at being an average player, niether of which is Evans.
by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watch Evans go to the clippers now
by The Golden One on Jul 24, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely think that extra million is worth his upside at his age, Evans is already who he’s going to be in this league, buike has some room to improve still. Just as Michael Jordan once said, you get paid on Potential in this league.
by q00pster on Jul 24, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to be the first to post this ...
... Darn good news in my opinion!!!
GO WARRIORS!!!
by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they don have enough cap room
to sign him now. the only way they could have gotten both of them would have been to sign evans first then match buikes deal cuz he is a rfa.
by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo!!!
Love Azubuike. Glad he’s back.
by gswfanforlife on Jul 24, 2008 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Post says . . .
Golden State also signed forward Richard Hendrix, its second-round pick in last month’s draft.
by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fack Yeah!!!
I think Hendrix will soon be a double-double machine!!!
by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy
I was intrigued that Mo Evans was a good defender, so I thought IF we got him at a discount to Buike it would have been ok, but I’d much rather have Kelenna. More potential, and we can’t let the Clips get two of our players.
The roster is just about full! We’ll see what Mo gets elsewhere.
by Eggman on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes Kelenna is back...
This is awesome news, I love this kid and his drive, at 2.9 million it’s a steal this kid is good and I can’t wait to see him piss Kobe off again!
It's all about the killer cross-over baby!
by warriorsfiend on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Mully!
I’m excited we’re keeping Buike instead of signing a 30 year journeyman in Evans.
by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, like the move
Thank you Evans for backing out on a deal you had agreed to already.
by The Golden One on Jul 24, 2008 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great news
without azubuike our team bicep rankings was gona be looking pretty sorry
by 3Kings650 on Jul 24, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Crazy crazy offseason. All indications were that they wouldn’t match, but of course .. they go and match
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it was all the emails
to accountservices@gs-warriors.com asking them to resign buike. they caved in under all the public pressure. to get it done:)
by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
From this perspective, it seemed that they would match, if they didn’t get Evans to sign a cheaper deal. You heard otherwise?
by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
There were whispers that they would let him go when we were in Las Vegas. They seemed rational because, frankly, Azubuike does nothing to help this team become a playoff team again. It sounded to me like the general consensus was that the Warriors would let the kiddies play and grow and develop .. with Azubuike back, that likely isn’t going to happen for Randolph and Belinelli.
I’m still trying to get a read on what the Warriors are trying to do this offseason. There’s been a lot of activity, but I don’t know how it will translate to achievement just yet. I feel like there’s something else that has to happen .. another shoe left to drop, if you will. I know they were trying to do things last week, but I don’t know where those discussion are now.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
any chance get a lil
note of what they were trying to do last week?
by The Golden One on Jul 24, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'm curious now too...
And what’s your take on what could be happening or where do you see this going with all our activity?
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Working on it ..
I felt like the Harirngton chip was going to be cashed .. they must be at a stalemate. Mullin loves him, Nellie is indifferent. I thought they could get a few pieces for him, but now they don’t need that. The roster is basically set after re-signing Monta and Andris. I can’t see much more change on the horizon.
The minutes will break down something like this ..
Monta (25) / MWill (18) / Watson (5)
Jack (30) / Monta (10) / Azubuike (8)
Maggette (35) / Azubuike (13)
Harrington (25) / Jack (5) / Wright (12) / Hendrix (5)
Biedrins (25) / Turiaf (20) / Wright (3)
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The minutes will break down something like this ..
Thanks Pree. That looks decent.
If Williams out plays Montay at the point how do you think the minutes will break down?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
Stop making me do math to add up to 48! I don’t think Williams will start – if that happens, the team is going to have to be forced to moving Jack. There’s too much talent at the 2/3 to have Monta there as well, know what I mean? He’s GOT to develop that part of his game.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s too much talent at the 2/3 to have Monta there as well, know what I mean? He’s GOT to develop that part of his game.
If he doesn’t then signing him to a long term high price deal will not look too smart? Seems like the compromises in play making and defense to keep him are hardly worth the benefits? Couldn’t we get more return by spending the money on a power forward instead?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true—the roster will be a bit of a mess if this doesn’t pan out. But I think given his youth and potential, Monta would be extremely tradeable, as would a number of other parts of our team… I think it wouldn’t be hard to retool, if it became absolutely necessary.
by onlxn on Jul 24, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pree..
any chance you think nellie would consider playing Turiaf and Beans together at the same time for certain matchups?
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible
I think Turiaf will play the 4 against premier post players like Boozer. But I don’t see it being consistent. Mostly because Turiaf played the 5 for the Lakers after Bynum went down.
I think Wright will get a chance against those guys first and when he gets bumped around, Turiaf will be inserted sooner and sooner as the year goes on.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
word.
I like the Mix of Bigs we got now. Hope Nellie utilizes them wisely.
You didn’t break down Randolph’s minutes. Is he runnin’ the 1?
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's runnin' the 1...
in D-LEAGUE lol HAHAHAHAHA
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All those minutes could change in a heartbeat.....
Should some of the younger guys acclimate to the NBA quicker than anticipated.
by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Hendrix.....
will adapt to the ruggedness (is that even a word?) of the NBA’s inside game. It’s a question of if he can defend the post.
by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait wait wait
Nellie’s going to go 11 deep? Maybe I miscounted but I doubt he’s playing 11 guys. And where’s Marco fit in? Then he’s going 12 deep? I don’t think so. Either way, 11 or 12 deep, Nellie don’t play dat.
Hendrix? I don’t think he’s averaging 5 minutes per game. Maybe 5 minutes per game that he actually plays in but he’s only going to play maybe 15 games.
And I’m sure CJ and/or MWill are going to get a bunch of DNP-CD’s in there. He’s not going to sit Monta or push Jax or Maggs minutes too low.
I’d have to think Nellie’s rotation is not going to be more than 9 guys. Maybe early on he tries 11 but after awhile (15-20 games?) he’ll roll with the guys he trusts.
And as a side note, what do you think: if Beans is only playing 25 minutes a night, is he worth the 9-10 mill per year he might get? I mean if Turiaf is getting paid half of what Beans gets but plays 80% of the minutes, seems like Beans is asking for waaaay too much.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 24, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In nellie's system
does beans play only 25 min. other teams would be happy to pay him that much and play him more minutes. also i don’t think u can compare salaries with a starter and back up by looking at minutes. if so than i think all starters make way too much.
by nuttinbutnet on Jul 24, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i know
it’s a simplistic analysis but it just looks odd to me. if my backup is playing nearly as many minutes as my starter, why am I paying my starter so much? I’d rather play beans 30 minutes and turiaf 15.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 24, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendrix
The team absolutely loves Hendrix and says he’s ready to play now. I’m sure there will be games where one guy gets a lot of PT (like Biedrins). Hendrix and Watson aren’t going to get much PT .. just threw them in there. You’re looking at 8-9 deep with those two as throw-ins. Wright is the other question mark .. I don’t think he has showed enough, but i think he’s got to get some time.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little wary
You’re much closer to them than any of us, but I’m a little wary of Mullin and Nelson saying they love a guy and he’s ready to play. If I recall correctly, they said that last year, that Lasme was going to contribute more than Wright and that he was ready to play.
Hopefully Hendrix is ready to play and their enthusiasm for him is genuine, but I have a hard time taking serious what Nellie and Mullin say about a 2nd rounder until it actually happens.
I hope you’re right about Hendrix though.
by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 24, 2008 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pree
does the team love hendrix enough to play him more than or in front of oh lets say somebody that was drafted #8 overall? also does the team love buike enough to take minutes away from oh lets say some one that was drafted 18th overall?
by Rach on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly hope that the staff doesn’t assign PT according to where someone was drafted and instead uses their ability to play the damn game as the primary marker.
Wright’s limited minutes worked out reasonably well last year. There was a problem when he was on the court with Biedrins, but Wright showed he could do some things. Belinelli, not so much.
by jae on Jul 25, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is why I think
we should expect a trade in the future.
by buky on Jul 25, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget ...
... AZ is still a little kiddie, too. Belinelli is a definitely never going to happen because he can’t play defense in the Summer League much less the big leagues. Still, its interesting how you see future development in Belinelli, who had EU experience to go with NBA time, and none for AZ. Maybe, you need to look closer at his stats. Certainly, you remember how he shut down (OK, frustrated) Kobe for a while. He will always be a better rebounder, defender, cutter, even perhaps a better shooter than Belinelli. Personally, I think I would rather see Belinelli in the D-League and give other people on the team a chance to succeed in the NBA .
Also, nobody knows how things will translate until they conclude – we can only guess.
BUT, there is tremendous upside in KA. I see that in my crystal ball!
BTW, this is only a comment and my opinion.
by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AZ is no kiddie to me
He may be young, but you know what you’re going to get from Azubuike, not necessarily the case for Belinelli. I know a lot of folks around here think Azubuike is going to develop into a major stuf and I don’t necessarily see THAT, but you do know what he’ll give you – tough defense, versatile scoring, mediocre outside shot, nice mid-range game, dribble-drives, etc.
He’ll be better across the board, but I don’t think it will be earth-shattering. I saw what he is working on in his game – it’s his jumper – and I feel as though he gives the team stability in his depth.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I agree
But, he is young and with relatively limited NBA experience. So if you look at his numbers from day 1 to now – everything is improving (except his FT shooting). THAT has to be an upside. The question is how “up”.
YES, I like KA a lot!
by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm
I don’t see as much upside as the rest of you, but maybe that’s because I feel like he’s already quite prodcutive!
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because he's productive doesn't mean there's no upside
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
We can argue this all day – what is and isn’t upside – but I just don’t know if you’re going to get ALL that much out of Buike. Will he be better? Certainly. Enough to put this team over the top? I have my reservations.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So... you're saying he's valuable at $3M & 15-20mins
But for a team that’s not going to the playoffs, that’s not much. I know he’s gotta take care of his family, but from a basketball perspective, he’d be better served elsewhere where there isn’t this giant Monta/Jax/Maggs roadblock at the 2/3. We’ll see how things turn out I guess. He is still young though, and Belinelli thus far hasn’t shown much of anything outside of SL and garbage time.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 24, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BELINELLI WILL BE GREAT!
Just imagine what he’ll be like working out with Azubuike and Maggette in the gym! Time to welcome Belinelli to the Gun Show!
Yes, Marco that will be you in a little bit… just make sure you visit the gun show
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marco that will be you in a little bit
Yeah, He’s a little bit, I heard they had to hire tiny actors to work with him so he looked big? Can they shrink Marco till his height matches his muscles?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
that what we have seen from buike is what we will get. i know he is young but u watch a player and realize his potential in the future. buike’s upside isn’t as grand as alot of people think. Bellie has more upside, and i was hoping to watch him display it this season. i guess that won’t happen now. perhaps bellie will never be as good as buike is right now, but now he probably won’t even get the chance to try as a warrior.
i still think guys like buike are easy to repace in the NBA. heck we almost got evans for cheaper.
by nuttinbutnet on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pree now im confused?
It sounded to me like the general consensus was that the Warriors would let the kiddies play and grow and develop
then why even go after evans why not just sign any SL guy or dont even sign anybody. you are right though about another shoe needing to drop. if it is about the kids then al and jax would be the next ones out. maybe they brought back buike to take jax minutes once the other shoe actually drops.
by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I mean .. c’mon .. Evans on the cheap for a little while or a terrible SL player? The team has to still be somewhat competitive – not sure if Robert Kurz exactly does that, right? :)
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understand what your saying
and i agree but nellie take on things isnt conventional. he would just go with a shorter rotation like last year
by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The moves ..
The roster moves indicate a lesson learned by running the Big 3 into the ground last season – I think he’s going to limit some minutes here and there
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree
Last season at this time we had just as many potential rotation players. There were the eight actual rotation players (the starters, plus Buike, Barnes and Pietrus), plus the veterans Croshere and Hudson, plus the hyped rookies, Wright and Belinelli, plus POB, who was the one of the stars of training camp and pre-season. As it turned out, Nelson wasn’t particularly happy with any of his bench players last season (at times he liked Buike and Pietrus) and even stopped playing his favorite altogether, Barnes.
I don’t see the situation being any differerent at this time. There’s no guarantee that anybody will play past the first 8, and even then some of those guys won’t play. Although Wright is the head scratcher. A lot of talent, length and potential, but he’s not a practical fit, particularly for Nelson.
by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figuring Nellie out ..
Figuring out Nellie’s rotation is always tough (maybe impossible) because he sees matchups differently than anyone else I know. But, I do feel like it’ll be hard to keep Wright and Hendrix off the court for a few minutes, at least.
The bulk of time will go to Monta, Jack, Maggette, and Azu at the 2-3, but this team has a bit more depth with Turiaf and Azubuike than last year’s. Could Nellie really turn to a no-back Croshere? Thud wasn’t ever really an option in my book and they even resorted to bringing back Webber, that’s how desperate things got. AB/Turiaf is nice enough .. a rotation of Harrington/Wright/Hendrix is questionable, but Nellie might be okay with it now that he says he’s more committed to playing the youngsters.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd actually much rather go for...
Louis Amundson… I think he’s been much more productive and much more aggressive than Kurz has been in the SL.
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twas a joke :)
Of course Louis is the better prospect, but there are some people that feel he isn’t going to be on the team. It’s too bad – he’s a nice player, but where will he get minutes?
I’d much rather see Wright and Hendrix play, but Louis would be a nice guy to turn to off the bench if the youngsters are struggling. I heard he wants a two-year deal, which the team might be willing to give him.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice so what exactly are we going to do with...
Kosta Perovic?
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Warriors Match Clippers Offer To Azubuike
See, Evans is only in it for the money. KA is far, far too valuable to have been let go to the Clips with no compensation. So far, BD is left hanging….Brand, now Buike.
by kyliekotmo on Jul 24, 2008 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i love this...
because the Clippers really threw a wrench in our offseason plans. now that we’ve retained Buike, the Clippers , well just continue to look like the same ol’ Clippers.
by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jul 24, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well better he be resigned than have Evans....
Although I thought Evans D’s up a little better than Azubuike, Special K’s offense is FAR SUPERIOR and still has potential to get better.
by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 24, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everyone else on this site
Buike has an upside, Evans does not, for that reason I am pleased, not to mention he knows what Nellie wants so he only has to learn better, not less. Obviously Nellie likes him because he started him early last year before Jackson came back. He should only get better. I think too many on this site worry that they paid “too much” for this player or that, but that is the NBA today. Hell, every team is paying too much, look at Harrington’s contract, that is too much, and soon enough Monta is going to get too much, the same with Biedrins. The only danger is cap room hell, and nothing in these contracts put the Warriors in danger. Next year, Foyle’s buyout is off, and Harrington can disappear to someone if necessary. I am very happy with this matching offer.
by Laoren on Jul 24, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But Baron
Got Camby so he can keep making stupid lunges for steals all season and have Camby help him on the weakside. Can I get a request though? Every single person that posted a comment saying how angry they would be if the W’s didnt match Ks offer, can they post on this chain and say how happy they are with the warriors? Let the love fest begin…
by pinkycheal on Jul 24, 2008 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL HAHAHAHAHA
+1
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1BILLION
i agree. some people claimed they would STOP BEING WARRIORS FANS if the warriors didn’t resign azubuike. <—whaat? i love azubuike as much as the next warriors fan but he is not worth that kind of proclaimation.
but yes, i am happy with the azubuike resigning!
by gogoldenbears on Jul 24, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YIPPEE! Lets celebrate with some classic art!
by Tony.psd on Jul 24, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KaBuki !!
Thanks Tony( and Mullin) for making my day.
Till I get free
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Cholesterol stalkin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Altered Beast
Will start calling Ka-Buike, “The Beast.” He will throw down this season.
Glad we didn’t sign Evans—not worth the savings for the diminished toughness, rebounding, and losing The Beast to someone in the division (even if it is the Clips).
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still like
the name “Bazooka” better.
by dajrichshow on Jul 24, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendrix will be "The Beast"..just watch.
by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That could happen...
Yeah, Hendrix looks just like what he was advertised to be on draft day—some muscle inside who will eat up space and rebounding. Hopefully he’ll get a chance to play since we’re still soft inside. As long as someone is “The Beast”, I’ll be happy. Go Warriors.
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
NOw we can all keep our AZ memorabilia!!! lol
Barons stuff obsolete.
Maybe that email complaint did work or Management AB wash cheaper for now.lol
by goldenstatewarriors on Jul 24, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baron Obsolete? Shiet...
Someone gave me a cool Baron “Fear the Beard” shirt last year. Was one of my favorites, but it’s not the same… I would buy a “Beast” shirt if it was available. Or a Randolph “Smooth” shirt. Or maybe a Monta shirt with all of the misspelled versions I’ve seen lately (“Montay”, “Monte”...).
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
skeptic
probably has a montay ellis shirt for you…for someone who copies the sentence they are replying to that has monta spelled right, you would think he would get it right once in a while
"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006
by flipgatey3 on Jul 25, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know Monta's name had a letter "y"?
by Tony.psd on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to skeptic, it does
"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006
by flipgatey3 on Jul 26, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know Monta's name had a letter "y"?
I’m Montay, here to Play, Got my 66 mil , won’t go Away.
Gonna play point, rock the joint, hit the rooks, write the books,
get a new tat, get fat, jump bail join the army if I fail. etc, etc, etc,
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 26, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay?!?!?!
hes gonna be even better this yr :)
by rayce on Jul 24, 2008 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im soooo happy right now
Im willing to put money on it that buike will have a breakthrough year like beans and monta did last year…im so juiced! I feel our team is complete! I woulda been so depressed to see him develope into a star with another team….thanks mullly
by war i are. on Jul 24, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to hear this. I’m not actually sure who would’ve been the better investment between Buike and Evans, but I love me some Buike.
Whatever you think of our chances this year, you’ve got to be somewhat heartened by the youth on this team.
Monta Ellis is 22.
Kelenna Azubuike is 24.
Anthony Randolph is 19.
Brandan Wright is 20.
Andris Biedrins is 22.
That’s a genuinely promising young ‘un at every position, with a sixth man, to boot. (We have other a bunch of other young guys like Williams, Marco, Kosta, Watson and Hendrix - hell, even Turiaf is only 25 - but I think these five are clearly the cream of the crop.)
How many other teams in the league have five guys that promising at 24 or younger? I’d say the Blazers have us beat on this front… teams like the Grizzles and Bulls have a bunch of young guys with upside. But at least twenty other teams can’t touch that quintet of players in terms of potential. Pretty nice feeling.
by onlxn on Jul 24, 2008 2:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love me some Buike too!
+1. Nice post.
"[Greg] Vaughn is in a funk so deep, George Clinton wearing a miner's helmet couldn't find him."
- Jim Baker, ESPN.com, May 2002
by achiappanza on Jul 24, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BETTER HOPE NOT ALL OF THOSE YOUNG GUYS
become all stars. reason being: if they do, we wont be able to keep them all cuz they’ll all demand money
by ADOBO on Jul 25, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problemo!
We’ll bombard Bill Gate’s Email, long enough until he will buy out Warriors and name the next WINDOWS WARIOR OS!!!LOL
Bye the way-He will laugh at Stern paying hundreds of mil.$ lux.taxes.
by buky on Jul 25, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My day was real bad until this news came up!
...way better than the lap dance I got over lunch!
by Tony.psd on Jul 24, 2008 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it's like school
If you dont bring enough for everybody, you shouldnt bring it at all :)
by The Golden One on Jul 24, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right or else they won't let you use the slide.
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell ya!
the London Chap is back with the Dubs!
!!!
Buke!
Yez!!!
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We get to hear more of his
beats since he said a while back that he produces music.
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha. word.
When he was on KNBR right? and Rod Brooks wanted him to hook him up with a beat so he can rap over it . or something. LOL.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah lol hahahaha
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the roster currently looks like this:
PG: Monta Ellis, Marcus Williams, (C.J. Watson)
SG: Stephen Jackson, Kelenna Azubuike, Marco Belinelli
SF: Corey Maggette, Anthony Randolph
PF: Al Harrington, Brandan Wright, Richard Hendrix
C: Andris Biedrins, Ronny Turiaf, Kosta Perovic
...with one slot to be filled, or two if we don’t retain C.J. (which we probably will).
If Monta’s a viable point guard, that’s a pretty solid team… if not, there are question marks, but we certainly have assets we could move for someone.
The dream move, as has been discussed to death, o’ course, is to package Al and a young chip or two for a quality power forward. I’d say there’s zero chance of doing that this year, but there might be a tiny chance of it a year from now, when Al’s an expiring. I think we’d be wise to hold onto him for now.
by onlxn on Jul 24, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Technically,
Croshere is still on the roster (FA), but if nobody offers him anything enticing will the Dubs?
by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think of going after Odom?
AH and something (I’d day Perovic and /or Bellinelli, Lakers would probably say Randolph or Wright) for Odom? LO would be a good fit for Nellie Ball. Could be an initiator, as well as playing some 5. Odom has a nice expiring contract.
Also, Al could be used as the main part of S &T package for Josh Smith, who apparently wants out of Atlanta. This would for sure mean parting with Wright and/or Randolph. I think the Warriors can take a few million more in salary, if push comes to shove.
I wonder if they are thinking of anything big like this.
by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odom is out of the question
Sorry, but the Lakers are trying to use Odom to bag a big fish like Artest. I don’t think Wright and Harrington would do it for them.
As far as the Smith thing .. I think Atlanta wants to wrap that sucker up because of the PR hit they just took with Childress. They are rumored to be scrambling for pieces and might even use their MLE now.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just about to say that!
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Childress
Great piece today by Dave Berri on the stupidity of letting Childress go, what it says about the restrictiveness of the CBA, and what it means going forward:
With European teams entering the market, the NBA’s ability to exploit (i.e. pay workers less than the revenue the worker generates) professional basketball players is mitigated. And this means the NBA is going to have to either:a. live with players like Childress emigrating to the Europe.
b. devise new rules so that NBA teams can pay wages that are closer to what the player is worth.
http://dberri.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/the-childress-revolution/
Sign ^^^^ !!
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 24, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
devise new rules so that NBA teams can pay wages that are closer to what the player is worth.
It should read new rules to overpay them as much as the europeans are willing to?
If the dollar rallies it might go the other way :>)
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol stalkin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Odom
What if Sac holds out for it’s insistence of including Kenny Thomas’ contract in the deal and the Lakers don’t give in? The Kings actually have a competitive team, as is, and like Artest. Do the Lakers then trade Odom to some one else? They might be interested in Harrington, who is more of conventional SF than Odom, yet has the skills to play the triangle well.
by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that Odom is unconventional
Is exactly what Phil Jackson liked about him!
The Lakers are in a place where they’ll only trade Odom if they can get back a “missing piece” type of player. The Artest/Thomas for Odom deal works nicely for them – Artest is the thug they wish they had on the perimeter and Thomas helps with the loss of Turiaf. I don’t know if they’ll get desperate and just move Odom for the sake of doing so. After all, they contended for a championship with that team and will only get better with Bynum coming back.
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are the chances of
warriors making any more trades, signings, besides Ellis and Biedrins,this offseason?
JRich 23
by warriorsalltheway on Jul 24, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lacks the Killer Instinct
He doesn’t have the will to bring his team to victory. He’ll help get us in the playoffs, but I’d rather try to win a championship in several years. He doesn’t show up in big games as you saw in the Finals this year. I’d rather keep Randolph and his upside. Maybe Wright and Bellie could be worthwhile (maybe not), but even if so, why get another short-term fix when we’re developing a youth movement? That’s why we won’t likely see Jax or Al here next year.
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drop the Harrington in S&T to ATL.
Sorry to keep bringing this up, but why would ATL want Harrington? We shouldn’t forget that he was theirs 3 years ago. They let his contract expire. They made next to zero attempts to keep him. He was a guy who demanded the ball, scored inefficiently, and didn’t rebound when he was there. He was a guy who figured prominently in a team that stunk to high heaven. We might be able to pawn him off on a new fool who once again looks at the 6-9 frame, sees the build of a PF and somehow conveniently ignores the near complete lack of post scoring and rebounding that’s good for a 2/3 but pretty damn lousy for a 4. But I don’t think the fools who have had him already will bite again. I suspect ATL would give him the “Screw you, go play in Europe if you don’t like our offers” before taking back 2 more years of Harrington at a bigger price tag than when he sucked for them the last time.
by jae on Jul 24, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with your argurment
is that it is rational and Atlanta’s management is not. The key to the deal would be Wright and/or Randolph. Harrington is just an average player whose salary and terms aren’t awful and can be a decent placeholder. The benefit for Atlanta is they save some instant money and then get Smith’s $15 million slot open in two seasons.
If Smith is really refusing to play for them, or if they just don’t want to meet his terms, but the Warriors do, it’s not a bad deal. Not that it will happen.
by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not that i disagree w/ you as to why ATL would want Harrington
but, in regards to one point, the GM is different from the one 2-3 years ago. Billy Knight got replaced by Rick Sund.
by the evil monkey on Jul 24, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not worth talking about unless ATL loses Smith
Why would they want Al otherwise?
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hm.
i’m saying i agree w/ the previous poster that Atlanta likely doesn’t want Al.
but he/she uses the point that the team previously made no effort to keep Al when they had him. which isn’t AS relevant when you consider that the person making the personnel decisions, the GM, has changed since then. maybe Rick Sund, like Mully, appreciates what Al brings to the table.
by the evil monkey on Jul 24, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Sund is as easily fooled as Mullin. What Harrington brings to the table has never been terribly substantial.
by jae on Jul 24, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless you factor in
without him, there would have been no Murphy/Dun trade with Indy – increasing his value to us!
statistically he may not measure up to his contract, but he’s serving useful purposes in being able to move our albatrosses, being able to play Nelson’s style (or more to the point having enough skill that Nelson can make something with). He’s enough of a threat other teams can’t ignore him the way they will when Hendrix/Turiaf & Andris are on the floor together (our current alternative) and occasionally defends other teams’ bigs well. Serviceable, not sexy statistically but with the depth we’re developing he can fill a solid role. My spies tell me he’s also a good locker room guy, and again, on a young team that also pays unseen dividends.
If Pree was correct, and if Al’s own statement about being traded is a hint that he’s frustrated, you may get your wish. I hope he stays, and if not, I hope we don’t decimate the depth of bigs by trading him for another guard.
by hardcore on Jul 25, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s realized his value to us already. What he cleared off the table (which was good) is different than what he brings to the table. Keeping him around because he helped us get rid of Murphy and Dunleavy’s contract doesn’t make sense. That purpose is over. Now we’re dealing with him on the court, where I think the subjective “can play Nellie’s style” is overvalued.
by jae on Jul 25, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick writeup
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9586
Nothing new, just whoring for hits :)
by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotcha lol
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy, Happy, Happy
Good that Mully was smart enough to sign The Beast. You’ve also got Homer’s, those dead people’s, and that little girl’s vote. By the way, who’s that dude with the boa in the front row?
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid clips
always try to screw the dubs. For one time, the office did a good thing and signed Big Biscep Buike!. He is clutch! and will get rebounds and tip ins-the little things that matter!
brb, going to ORACLE
by warrior510 on Jul 24, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Prince Akeem is coming to the Bay Area!
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I am very happy to be here!
by Tony.psd on Jul 24, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
This one is dope Tony.
hahaha!
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL didnt you watch taht last night?
Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.
by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More Photoshop Requested
Try pasting Thunder’s head onto Eddie Murphy. Keep the tux.
by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the words of LiL Jon
What?! Yeah! Okay!
by gabezgsw on Jul 24, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Azebuike
a little R. Kelly
Playas wanna play
Ballas wanna ball (Ballas wanna ball)
Rollas wanna roll
(but im takin all after i dance)
im feelin azeubuike…
buiikeee
buiikeeeee
"beans"= the worst nickname ever
by dubshoops on Jul 24, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the last thing to do this off season is trade TMNT
by war i are. on Jul 24, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice one Mully
Way to play the mystery card again. Welcome back home Buke.
Put a little mustard on it
by The Barnes Supremacy on Jul 24, 2008 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
signing azu is a waste
we have way too many players at that position. i see this $3mil per for azu as more of a protection against sucking REAL bad than upgrading our roster…
by Foulacy on Jul 24, 2008 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ITs
hard to be a warrior fan …no really!. During season, we go through the immense emotional rollercoaster-close games, blowing leads,coming back from way behind…
During off season, we are worried about letting players go, getting good/mediocre players and hope for the best for the “future”. With that being said, i really don’t know what to expect from next years team, i know that we won’t have 45+wins but atleast we will be young,fast,athletic , smart enough to win some games thru nellieball!
brb, going to ORACLE
by warrior510 on Jul 24, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol man
definetely made my day better. we are basically set along with signing monta n biedrins. i woulodof been fine with evans in 6 mill, but i wouldof been so much happier if they resigned buike instead and that happened. now i think im sure clips r gunna throw azubuikes money to evans.
by GSwarrior on Jul 24, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WORD is BOND!
BUIKE is still a WARRIOR, dunn! KAZ and C-MAG are the Orignal Gun Clappaz.
by D3F1N1T3 on Jul 24, 2008 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it
means teenage mutant ninja turtle. its for al hrrington cause he looks like donatello
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jul 24, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As the great Tony.psd showed...
Sign ^^^^ !!
by Sleepy Freud on Jul 24, 2008 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As the great Tony.psd showed...
Needs the ridges on his head?
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol stalkin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 25, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Yea me and the folks used 2 call em’ Hot Dawg Packs!
by Tony.psd on Jul 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am liking the look of this team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s not forget that while we loved Baron’s spirit and play…...we didnt make the playoffs not did we ge past Utah in 07!!!
THIS TEAM…...just might have the depth to give a harder battle to anyone this year!
GO WARRIORS…... I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BELIEVE!
“Golden State Young Guns!”
It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!
by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and I hate the keyboard on this damn laptop, I keep missing letters!!!
It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!
by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 24, 2008 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
VERY INTERESTING
About the childress signing… (has to do with Azubuike… sorta)
Here’s some stuff that I had no idea about until I read the articles.
“He just said, ‘I can’t, I can’t go.’ I tried to tell him about the money and the difference between what he could make here, and if he were to go over there they would give him an out after every year. But he’s too young. If he was in the league for maybe three or four more years it might have been different, but he’s too young and he’s fought too hard to get to where he wanted to be.’‘
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53743/20080725/olympiakos_first_targeted_azubuike/
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/07/25/weekly.countdown/1.html
talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish
by starry night on Jul 25, 2008 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i forgot to include
I forgot to include this is my post above, but it really seems like Kelenna is starting to make a name for himself in the NBA.
talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish
by starry night on Jul 25, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhhh
SORRY!!
One more interesting story on Kelenna Azubuike. =) It’ll provide us fans with a little insight on Kelenna’s thoughts as he waited for whether or not the Warriors would match his offer from the Clippers.
Azubuike had his heart prepared for the end of his Warriors career and was looking forward to his move to SoCal.“At first I thought the Clippers would be a better situation,” Azubuike said during a phone interview Friday. “I thought the Warriors weren’t looking at me anymore.”
Obviously, Azubuike found out he was wrong, which the Warriors showed by matching the three-year, $9 million-plus offer sheet he signed with the Clippers — a day before the deadline. Such required a change of heart. “I’m happy to be back,” he said. “I love the organization. I love the area and the fans.”
http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports/ci_10002171?source=rss
talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish
by starry night on Jul 25, 2008 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did u guys hear about this?
Olympiakos targeted Kaz first. Interesting article.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?hd=20080726&lc=NBA#STORY_10744
He turned down more money from Olympiakos just to play in the NBA. Wow, what a baller.
i hope we win a championship soon
by Da Jrich tribute on Jul 26, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great to have Buike back
It’s good to have him for 9 million vs the 7 million the Hawks gave Evans.
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