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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53731/20080724/warriors_match_clippers_offer_to_azubuike/

So Mullin decided to match the offer, I don't know if it's a good move for that kind of money (probably a bit much). Anyway, at least we won't see Buki develop with another team. So those of you likes Azubuike's game (or arms, lol) can rejoice!

Does that mean the deal with Evans fall through? I doubt they're going to sign another player that plays the same position. I think we can expect Monta's and Biedrins' contracts soon.

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this means

1. Evans thought that W’s are cash cow
2. most likely ME and AB contracts will be signed this week

build a team & destroy the roof

by Lat We N Trash on Jul 24, 2008 1:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Evans thought that W’s are cash cow

I agree with you. I think after the way W’s went on the shopping spree this summer handed out contracts, he thought he could make a real good penny here. I’m glad we sent a message that we are still responsible. Azubuike is a great player that will bring lots of energy. Love them matching the offer.

by RogiSF2000 on Jul 24, 2008 1:41 PM PDT   0 recs

WOOOOOOOOOO

YEAAAAAAAAAAAA

our city, our team, our motivation

by mikey rocks on Jul 24, 2008 1:44 PM PDT   1 recs

So Long Maruice Evans

We hardly knew ya’.

Sounds like the $six million deal was Evan’s for the taking, he just got a bit greedy. Let’s see if he does better elsewhere.

I’m more comfortable with signing Buike. The $milion more per year is worth the potential improvement over Evans. Right now, they are fairly even players, but Kaz is 5 1/2 years younger. Also, the deal is fair value (thanks Clippers!). Buike has an OK shot at being an above average player, a pretty good shot at being an average player, niether of which is Evans.

by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 1:47 PM PDT   0 recs

I definitely think that extra million is worth his upside at his age, Evans is already who he’s going to be in this league, buike has some room to improve still. Just as Michael Jordan once said, you get paid on Potential in this league.

by q00pster on Jul 24, 2008 4:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wanted to be the first to post this ...

... Darn good news in my opinion!!!

GO WARRIORS!!!

by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT   0 recs

they don have enough cap room

to sign him now. the only way they could have gotten both of them would have been to sign evans first then match buikes deal cuz he is a rfa.

by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT   0 recs

Woohoo!!!

Love Azubuike. Glad he’s back.

by gswfanforlife on Jul 24, 2008 1:49 PM PDT   0 recs

I’m glad to see him staying a Warrior.

by disguy on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Another Post says . . .

Golden State also signed forward Richard Hendrix, its second-round pick in last month’s draft.

by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Fack Yeah!!!

I think Hendrix will soon be a double-double machine!!!

by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hendrix

is he our paul milsap, jason maxiel, etc. ?
i sure hope so. he has the potential to be.

by warriors1 on Jul 25, 2008 4:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm happy

I was intrigued that Mo Evans was a good defender, so I thought IF we got him at a discount to Buike it would have been ok, but I’d much rather have Kelenna. More potential, and we can’t let the Clips get two of our players.

The roster is just about full! We’ll see what Mo gets elsewhere.

by Eggman on Jul 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes Kelenna is back...

This is awesome news, I love this kid and his drive, at 2.9 million it’s a steal this kid is good and I can’t wait to see him piss Kobe off again!

It's all about the killer cross-over baby!

by warriorsfiend on Jul 24, 2008 1:51 PM PDT   0 recs

Thank you Mully!

I’m excited we’re keeping Buike instead of signing a 30 year journeyman in Evans.

by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jul 24, 2008 1:52 PM PDT   0 recs

Yes, like the move

Thank you Evans for backing out on a deal you had agreed to already.

by The Golden One on Jul 24, 2008 1:54 PM PDT   0 recs

great news

without azubuike our team bicep rankings was gona be looking pretty sorry

by 3Kings650 on Jul 24, 2008 1:57 PM PDT   0 recs

Ugh

Crazy crazy offseason. All indications were that they wouldn’t match, but of course .. they go and match

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 1:58 PM PDT   0 recs

maybe it was all the emails

to accountservices@gs-warriors.com asking them to resign buike. they caved in under all the public pressure. to get it done:)

by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 2:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

From this perspective, it seemed that they would match, if they didn’t get Evans to sign a cheaper deal. You heard otherwise?

by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 2:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not really

There were whispers that they would let him go when we were in Las Vegas. They seemed rational because, frankly, Azubuike does nothing to help this team become a playoff team again. It sounded to me like the general consensus was that the Warriors would let the kiddies play and grow and develop .. with Azubuike back, that likely isn’t going to happen for Randolph and Belinelli.

I’m still trying to get a read on what the Warriors are trying to do this offseason. There’s been a lot of activity, but I don’t know how it will translate to achievement just yet. I feel like there’s something else that has to happen .. another shoe left to drop, if you will. I know they were trying to do things last week, but I don’t know where those discussion are now.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

any chance get a lil

note of what they were trying to do last week?

by The Golden One on Jul 24, 2008 2:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I'm curious now too...

And what’s your take on what could be happening or where do you see this going with all our activity?

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Working on it ..

I felt like the Harirngton chip was going to be cashed .. they must be at a stalemate. Mullin loves him, Nellie is indifferent. I thought they could get a few pieces for him, but now they don’t need that. The roster is basically set after re-signing Monta and Andris. I can’t see much more change on the horizon.

The minutes will break down something like this ..

Monta (25) / MWill (18) / Watson (5)
Jack (30) / Monta (10) / Azubuike (8)
Maggette (35) / Azubuike (13)
Harrington (25) / Jack (5) / Wright (12) / Hendrix (5)
Biedrins (25) / Turiaf (20) / Wright (3)

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The minutes will break down something like this ..

Thanks Pree. That looks decent.
If Williams out plays Montay at the point how do you think the minutes will break down?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 2:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

HAHA

Stop making me do math to add up to 48! I don’t think Williams will start – if that happens, the team is going to have to be forced to moving Jack. There’s too much talent at the 2/3 to have Monta there as well, know what I mean? He’s GOT to develop that part of his game.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There’s too much talent at the 2/3 to have Monta there as well, know what I mean? He’s GOT to develop that part of his game.

If he doesn’t then signing him to a long term high price deal will not look too smart? Seems like the compromises in play making and defense to keep him are hardly worth the benefits? Couldn’t we get more return by spending the money on a power forward instead?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol stalkin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s true—the roster will be a bit of a mess if this doesn’t pan out. But I think given his youth and potential, Monta would be extremely tradeable, as would a number of other parts of our team… I think it wouldn’t be hard to retool, if it became absolutely necessary.

by onlxn on Jul 24, 2008 3:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pree..

any chance you think nellie would consider playing Turiaf and Beans together at the same time for certain matchups?

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 2:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's possible

I think Turiaf will play the 4 against premier post players like Boozer. But I don’t see it being consistent. Mostly because Turiaf played the 5 for the Lakers after Bynum went down.

I think Wright will get a chance against those guys first and when he gets bumped around, Turiaf will be inserted sooner and sooner as the year goes on.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

word.

I like the Mix of Bigs we got now. Hope Nellie utilizes them wisely.

You didn’t break down Randolph’s minutes. Is he runnin’ the 1?

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's runnin' the 1...

in D-LEAGUE lol HAHAHAHAHA

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All those minutes could change in a heartbeat.....

Should some of the younger guys acclimate to the NBA quicker than anticipated.

by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Hendrix.....

will adapt to the ruggedness (is that even a word?) of the NBA’s inside game. It’s a question of if he can defend the post.

by goldenstatefan on Jul 24, 2008 3:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait wait wait

Nellie’s going to go 11 deep? Maybe I miscounted but I doubt he’s playing 11 guys. And where’s Marco fit in? Then he’s going 12 deep? I don’t think so. Either way, 11 or 12 deep, Nellie don’t play dat.

Hendrix? I don’t think he’s averaging 5 minutes per game. Maybe 5 minutes per game that he actually plays in but he’s only going to play maybe 15 games.

And I’m sure CJ and/or MWill are going to get a bunch of DNP-CD’s in there. He’s not going to sit Monta or push Jax or Maggs minutes too low.

I’d have to think Nellie’s rotation is not going to be more than 9 guys. Maybe early on he tries 11 but after awhile (15-20 games?) he’ll roll with the guys he trusts.

And as a side note, what do you think: if Beans is only playing 25 minutes a night, is he worth the 9-10 mill per year he might get? I mean if Turiaf is getting paid half of what Beans gets but plays 80% of the minutes, seems like Beans is asking for waaaay too much.

by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 24, 2008 4:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In nellie's system

does beans play only 25 min. other teams would be happy to pay him that much and play him more minutes. also i don’t think u can compare salaries with a starter and back up by looking at minutes. if so than i think all starters make way too much.

by nuttinbutnet on Jul 24, 2008 5:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yea i know

it’s a simplistic analysis but it just looks odd to me. if my backup is playing nearly as many minutes as my starter, why am I paying my starter so much? I’d rather play beans 30 minutes and turiaf 15.

by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 24, 2008 5:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hendrix

The team absolutely loves Hendrix and says he’s ready to play now. I’m sure there will be games where one guy gets a lot of PT (like Biedrins). Hendrix and Watson aren’t going to get much PT .. just threw them in there. You’re looking at 8-9 deep with those two as throw-ins. Wright is the other question mark .. I don’t think he has showed enough, but i think he’s got to get some time.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm a little wary

You’re much closer to them than any of us, but I’m a little wary of Mullin and Nelson saying they love a guy and he’s ready to play. If I recall correctly, they said that last year, that Lasme was going to contribute more than Wright and that he was ready to play.

Hopefully Hendrix is ready to play and their enthusiasm for him is genuine, but I have a hard time taking serious what Nellie and Mullin say about a 2nd rounder until it actually happens.

I hope you’re right about Hendrix though.

by Fantasy Junkie on Jul 24, 2008 6:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pree

does the team love hendrix enough to play him more than or in front of oh lets say somebody that was drafted #8 overall? also does the team love buike enough to take minutes away from oh lets say some one that was drafted 18th overall?

by Rach on Jul 25, 2008 7:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I certainly hope that the staff doesn’t assign PT according to where someone was drafted and instead uses their ability to play the damn game as the primary marker.

Wright’s limited minutes worked out reasonably well last year. There was a problem when he was on the court with Biedrins, but Wright showed he could do some things. Belinelli, not so much.

by jae on Jul 25, 2008 11:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That is why I think

we should expect a trade in the future.

by buky on Jul 25, 2008 6:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't forget ...

... AZ is still a little kiddie, too. Belinelli is a definitely never going to happen because he can’t play defense in the Summer League much less the big leagues. Still, its interesting how you see future development in Belinelli, who had EU experience to go with NBA time, and none for AZ. Maybe, you need to look closer at his stats. Certainly, you remember how he shut down (OK, frustrated) Kobe for a while. He will always be a better rebounder, defender, cutter, even perhaps a better shooter than Belinelli. Personally, I think I would rather see Belinelli in the D-League and give other people on the team a chance to succeed in the NBA .

Also, nobody knows how things will translate until they conclude – we can only guess.

BUT, there is tremendous upside in KA. I see that in my crystal ball!

BTW, this is only a comment and my opinion.

by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

AZ is no kiddie to me

He may be young, but you know what you’re going to get from Azubuike, not necessarily the case for Belinelli. I know a lot of folks around here think Azubuike is going to develop into a major stuf and I don’t necessarily see THAT, but you do know what he’ll give you – tough defense, versatile scoring, mediocre outside shot, nice mid-range game, dribble-drives, etc.

He’ll be better across the board, but I don’t think it will be earth-shattering. I saw what he is working on in his game – it’s his jumper – and I feel as though he gives the team stability in his depth.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, I agree

But, he is young and with relatively limited NBA experience. So if you look at his numbers from day 1 to now – everything is improving (except his FT shooting). THAT has to be an upside. The question is how “up”.

YES, I like KA a lot!

by cfrazie88 on Jul 24, 2008 2:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hm

I don’t see as much upside as the rest of you, but maybe that’s because I feel like he’s already quite prodcutive!

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

True

We can argue this all day – what is and isn’t upside – but I just don’t know if you’re going to get ALL that much out of Buike. Will he be better? Certainly. Enough to put this team over the top? I have my reservations.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So... you're saying he's valuable at $3M & 15-20mins

But for a team that’s not going to the playoffs, that’s not much. I know he’s gotta take care of his family, but from a basketball perspective, he’d be better served elsewhere where there isn’t this giant Monta/Jax/Maggs roadblock at the 2/3. We’ll see how things turn out I guess. He is still young though, and Belinelli thus far hasn’t shown much of anything outside of SL and garbage time.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 24, 2008 3:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

BELINELLI WILL BE GREAT!

Just imagine what he’ll be like working out with Azubuike and Maggette in the gym! Time to welcome Belinelli to the Gun Show!

Yes, Marco that will be you in a little bit… just make sure you visit the gun show

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Marco that will be you in a little bit

Yeah, He’s a little bit, I heard they had to hire tiny actors to work with him so he looked big? Can they shrink Marco till his height matches his muscles?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 3:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

that what we have seen from buike is what we will get. i know he is young but u watch a player and realize his potential in the future. buike’s upside isn’t as grand as alot of people think. Bellie has more upside, and i was hoping to watch him display it this season. i guess that won’t happen now. perhaps bellie will never be as good as buike is right now, but now he probably won’t even get the chance to try as a warrior.

i still think guys like buike are easy to repace in the NBA. heck we almost got evans for cheaper.

by nuttinbutnet on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pree now im confused?
It sounded to me like the general consensus was that the Warriors would let the kiddies play and grow and develop

then why even go after evans why not just sign any SL guy or dont even sign anybody. you are right though about another shoe needing to drop. if it is about the kids then al and jax would be the next ones out. maybe they brought back buike to take jax minutes once the other shoe actually drops.

by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 2:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

I mean .. c’mon .. Evans on the cheap for a little while or a terrible SL player? The team has to still be somewhat competitive – not sure if Robert Kurz exactly does that, right? :)

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 2:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i understand what your saying

and i agree but nellie take on things isnt conventional. he would just go with a shorter rotation like last year

by Rach on Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The moves ..

The roster moves indicate a lesson learned by running the Big 3 into the ground last season – I think he’s going to limit some minutes here and there

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I respectfully disagree

Last season at this time we had just as many potential rotation players. There were the eight actual rotation players (the starters, plus Buike, Barnes and Pietrus), plus the veterans Croshere and Hudson, plus the hyped rookies, Wright and Belinelli, plus POB, who was the one of the stars of training camp and pre-season. As it turned out, Nelson wasn’t particularly happy with any of his bench players last season (at times he liked Buike and Pietrus) and even stopped playing his favorite altogether, Barnes.

I don’t see the situation being any differerent at this time. There’s no guarantee that anybody will play past the first 8, and even then some of those guys won’t play. Although Wright is the head scratcher. A lot of talent, length and potential, but he’s not a practical fit, particularly for Nelson.

by San Francisco Slim on Jul 24, 2008 3:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Figuring Nellie out ..

Figuring out Nellie’s rotation is always tough (maybe impossible) because he sees matchups differently than anyone else I know. But, I do feel like it’ll be hard to keep Wright and Hendrix off the court for a few minutes, at least.

The bulk of time will go to Monta, Jack, Maggette, and Azu at the 2-3, but this team has a bit more depth with Turiaf and Azubuike than last year’s. Could Nellie really turn to a no-back Croshere? Thud wasn’t ever really an option in my book and they even resorted to bringing back Webber, that’s how desperate things got. AB/Turiaf is nice enough .. a rotation of Harrington/Wright/Hendrix is questionable, but Nellie might be okay with it now that he says he’s more committed to playing the youngsters.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd actually much rather go for...

Louis Amundson… I think he’s been much more productive and much more aggressive than Kurz has been in the SL.

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:06 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Twas a joke :)

Of course Louis is the better prospect, but there are some people that feel he isn’t going to be on the team. It’s too bad – he’s a nice player, but where will he get minutes?

I’d much rather see Wright and Hendrix play, but Louis would be a nice guy to turn to off the bench if the youngsters are struggling. I heard he wants a two-year deal, which the team might be willing to give him.

by pree on Jul 24, 2008 3:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice so what exactly are we going to do with...

Kosta Perovic?

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 3:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Warriors Match Clippers Offer To Azubuike

See, Evans is only in it for the money. KA is far, far too valuable to have been let go to the Clips with no compensation. So far, BD is left hanging….Brand, now Buike.

by kyliekotmo on Jul 24, 2008 1:59 PM PDT   0 recs

Yeah i love this...

because the Clippers really threw a wrench in our offseason plans. now that we’ve retained Buike, the Clippers , well just continue to look like the same ol’ Clippers.

by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jul 24, 2008 2:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well better he be resigned than have Evans....

Although I thought Evans D’s up a little better than Azubuike, Special K’s offense is FAR SUPERIOR and still has potential to get better.

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 24, 2008 2:00 PM PDT   0 recs

I agree with everyone else on this site

Buike has an upside, Evans does not, for that reason I am pleased, not to mention he knows what Nellie wants so he only has to learn better, not less. Obviously Nellie likes him because he started him early last year before Jackson came back. He should only get better. I think too many on this site worry that they paid “too much” for this player or that, but that is the NBA today. Hell, every team is paying too much, look at Harrington’s contract, that is too much, and soon enough Monta is going to get too much, the same with Biedrins. The only danger is cap room hell, and nothing in these contracts put the Warriors in danger. Next year, Foyle’s buyout is off, and Harrington can disappear to someone if necessary. I am very happy with this matching offer.

by Laoren on Jul 24, 2008 2:01 PM PDT   0 recs

But Baron

Got Camby so he can keep making stupid lunges for steals all season and have Camby help him on the weakside. Can I get a request though? Every single person that posted a comment saying how angry they would be if the W’s didnt match Ks offer, can they post on this chain and say how happy they are with the warriors? Let the love fest begin…

by pinkycheal on Jul 24, 2008 2:02 PM PDT   0 recs

LOL HAHAHAHAHA

+1

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 24, 2008 2:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1BILLION

i agree. some people claimed they would STOP BEING WARRIORS FANS if the warriors didn’t resign azubuike. <—whaat? i love azubuike as much as the next warriors fan but he is not worth that kind of proclaimation.

but yes, i am happy with the azubuike resigning!

by gogoldenbears on Jul 24, 2008 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

awesome news

by ViveAirFrance on Jul 24, 2008 2:03 PM PDT   0 recs

KaBuki !!

Thanks Tony( and Mullin) for making my day.

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I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol stalkin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 24, 2008 2:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Altered Beast

Will start calling Ka-Buike, “The Beast.” He will throw down this season.

Glad we didn’t sign Evans—not worth the savings for the diminished toughness, rebounding, and losing The Beast to someone in the division (even if it is the Clips).

by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I still like

the name “Bazooka” better.

by dajrichshow on Jul 24, 2008 3:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That could happen...

Yeah, Hendrix looks just like what he was advertised to be on draft day—some muscle inside who will eat up space and rebounding. Hopefully he’ll get a chance to play since we’re still soft inside. As long as someone is “The Beast”, I’ll be happy. Go Warriors.

by Don't Mess With The Cohan on Jul 24, 2008 8:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lol

NOw we can all keep our AZ memorabilia!!! lol

Barons stuff obsolete.

Maybe that email complaint did work or Management AB wash cheaper for now.lol

by goldenstatewarriors on Jul 24, 2008 4:31 PM PDT to parent