To all you cynics..and loyal fans too..2 cents please
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Jul 31, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
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The moves by chris mullin for better or worse have been decent moves at the time. he repented for his sins paying foyle, murphy, and dunleavy by the trades and buyout. for those of u who think trading jrich was a mistake we got maggette for cheaper. id like to praise him for getting somebody on my dream sheet. marcus williams. dude is very low risk, high reward. he played baron's situation like he should have and well look like winners in two years when he gets fat and happy. dont get me wrong. i love bdiddy and think he is top 5 most unstoppable players is the nba, but only when motivated. i wish mullin had gavin petrius what he got in orlando instead of overpaying maggette but i can live with that move considering barons money off the books. next move TRADE AL HARRINGTON. he still has untapped potential but wont realize it here. get his 10 mil off the books if you can but i guess since he comes off for the 2010 coveted FA class then theres no rush. Am i the only who this that we need to play turiaf WITH biedrins and not as a sub? i for one am tired of getting killed by the likes of Clandry, Pmillsap, Jmaxiell, Tduncan, Abynum, Amare,Bbass,zach,KG,brand, chandler and eveeryone else who has career highs against us too name a few. goose cant guard them all with 4 perimeter players on the court! if we upgrade the 4 spot and monta or marcus step up at point we are contenders. AL and Bwright needs to go. my new dream sheet consists of rashweed wallace and jsmoove. i love rashweeds expiring 13 mil for next season. can hit the 3. great D length with moderate girth and crazy intensity to bring back that swag from 06-07. with turiaf as the servicable backup to both him and goose.
Plan A
point - monta (hope forthe best)
wings - sjack and maggette
4 and 5 - ronny and goose
Plan B
point - marcus (hope for the best)
monta and maggette on the wing
goose in the middle
either sjack or ronny depending on the machups..
Plan C
trade for a 4 spot that can fill our needs..hell, zachR fills them offensively
I went to vegas to check out our picks and let me tell you guys we got a superstar in randolph 3 or 4 years down the line. this kid is lamar odom reincarnated to be more aggressive with oh so sweet passing to boot!! i cant get too erect from the same feeling i had with belli last year but damn. dude is raw! i dont hear nobody givin mullin his props for the drafts he been involved in. even murphy was agreat pick til they overpaid him.
I found this site a few days ago and now cant stay off it to concentrate on my hwk..i was wondering where all the junkies were thinkin i was the only one for the dubz..
last thoughts..
package harrington and bwright for something expiring
play beidrins WITH ronny
serious look at wallace
inquire about jsmoove
give marcus serious PT (at least 25min per game)
stephen, please brush more shoulders or (IE barons dunk on AK47)
as a die hard id like too see these things happen and curious to know what other die hards think but if ur ignorant to the cap or dont know what ur talking about please dont bother. no disrespect but id prefer to hear from other junkies..
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great post
i’d take smoove over sheed any day!!! he’s got arguably the best defense in the league, he FLIES,and has above average jump shot (which would surely develop under nellie) wallace will be too old and out of the league in 3-4 years, Smith 10-12 years! If he’s not in jail!!!
by hyphy cowboy on Jul 31, 2008 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wallace
really its the expiring and getting Al off the books for the offseason..and id give bwight just to make it happen. he just happens to be able to contribute. i wouldnt give up anyone else
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Jul 31, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ITS NICE TO HAVE DREAMS CUZ
we’re not getting any of them.
by ADOBO on Aug 2, 2008 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Smith would be great, but do you HONESTLY believe that we can land him? It HAS to take a third team for that to happen, and even then, we have to give up harrington, along with a bunch of our young talent as well. I personally dont think its worth it, cause then we lose what Mullin got us this offseason that we’ve needed these past couple years, depth.
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Jul 31, 2008 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nobody
in the league wants Al Harrington enough to give up anything decent in return.
He could be a nice option for many teams, but tell me who the hell would give up any kind of value for him and his fat contract?
Think about it this way. If J-rich was traded for a 8th pick, what do you think Harrington and his over 9 mil a year could get you?
by misterjennings on Jul 31, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That and...
Harrington is coming off the books after next season anyways. Why not keep him around because 1) he knows this system; 2) he is an adequate player for the type of offense that we run; and 3) His head to head match ups with Yao are RIDICULOUS! The last one was just a joke… but realistically, we would benefit more by keeping Harrington around 2 more seasons.
by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goose...
That nickname got me thinkin, everytime I hear that name I think about Top Gun. Ive heard Beans being compared to Ivan Drago (Rocky IV), but how about Iceman. That is my new nickname for Beans, ICEMAN! Jeez this guy has a lot of nicknames.
by krazybalr on Jul 31, 2008 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is my new nickname for Beans, ICEMAN!
How about Dippity-do ?
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 31, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WINGMANNNNNN
this is my favorite one yet.
by dso on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
marcus williams mix (youtube)
if this dont get yall excited i dont know what will!!
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Jul 31, 2008 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
man...
I don’t know. All that mix did was offer up a plethora of evidence for all those that say that he has horrendous shot selection.
by kinetic on Jul 31, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and baron didnt his first year here??
at least that part of his game is easier to improve then others..
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Aug 1, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen a lot of old college...
B-diddy highlights, and they were much more impressive than those. Sorry, I’m just not gonna bite on this Marcus Williams being the next Deron Williams-pass-first-high-iq-point-guard thing until he actually shows something.
As it stands, he’s an out of shape, shoot-first, low FG%, TO prone PG that the Nets couldn’t wait to get rid of. He does have potential and I love the trade because he’s worth a shot.
by kinetic on Aug 1, 2008 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Williams
38% from the field isnt bad, but wen he is also 38%(38% is very good) from the 3 pointline it makes me wonder if hes a decent mid range shooter, and also has anyone ever seen him finish above the rim and dunk it?
by montazing 192 on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
38% from the field
isn’t bad, it’s very bad.
by kinetic on Jul 31, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
38% from 3 is good
I wouldn’t go so far as “very good”. I think league average is something like 36-37%. But he was still ~38% from inside the arc, which is bad unless you’re AI or Agent 0 and getting to the line 15 times a game.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Aug 1, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i remember correctly
JAE said the league average for field goal% is 45%. he mentioned it in a post about jsmith
by Rach on Aug 1, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got me thinking more about Williams and Smith
Looks like Williams has got that alley oop pass down. And there is no better receiver for those alleys than Josh Smith, you throw anything up there, he’ll go get it. Can you imagine this two together, how many alleys we could get. We would break the record, not that they keep those stats anyways. I know Monta is a good receiver, and Beans has good hands, but no player can cover as much ground as Josh Smith in the air. That would be like a match made in heaven. I would trade young talent to get Smith, any means necessary.
Put a little mustard on it
by The Barnes Supremacy on Jul 31, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
excactly nellie wont play half of the young guys anyways!!!
But the cp3 and chandler duo gets hella more oops!!!
by hyphy cowboy on Jul 31, 2008 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
al harrington & his untapped potential
yes he is ready to breakout. alot of players reach there potential in there 11th year in the league.
by Rach on Jul 31, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dude is 28..
you may be sour on the guy and i expected more out of him in the atl but neither indy or us used him right. we hadthe right idea but nellie messin with his pt is the reason he dont give us more. im sure ur comment was sacastic and you dont think there are any so go check nash’s stats when he got back to phx. not sayin al in in his class but al could what he does in spurts consistently then he would be an all-star..
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Jul 31, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
was i being sarcastic
yes and no. this is going to be al’s 10th year in the league there is no more potential. what you see is what you get. his offensive ability isnt greater than his defensive liability.he doesnt rebound well and he’s not very active in the paint. thats why im sour on the him.
by Rach on Jul 31, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i concur bout the liability statement
and thats why i vote to give him away!! and give wright to make it enticing..for and expiring that would give us money next offseason. but if not we can wait til 2010.
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Aug 1, 2008 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
problem with trading al
is he has very little trade value because if he did he would have been traded already. the fact that he is 6”9 and can shot a 3 doesnt necessarily make him a perfect fit for nellie’s run n gun. people said the same thing about dunlevey and we all remember how that turned out.
by Rach on Aug 1, 2008 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plans & Youtube
Plan B is bad seriously… Really, Sjax or Maggs isn’t going to come off the bench and neither would play the four because thats worse than Al (and there’s no potential in Al)...
And can we stop looking at youtube to try and analyze a person because i’m sure there are clips on there of Kwame Brown looking good and we all know how terrible he is… We can be excited but lets not get excited about youtube clips guys.
"Get Er Dun!"
by YayArea510 on Jul 31, 2008 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
plan b is bad huh?
nellie did that for the past two years.. and your right.i dont think either maggette or sjack will realistically come off the bench but thats to the detrament of our team if monta doesnt pan out at the point..think about it patna.. monta has to move back to the 2spot, who goes to the bench?..whats ur suggestion then genius? does it change if were playing another small lineup..please respond.
your right to an extent about you tube..just cuz a player make highlights does not substantiate him as a true ball player but tell me that if you knew nothing of bdiddy and saw the dunk on AK47 on youtube you wouldnt get excited! at least i see talent is my point..take it for what it is cynic!!!
by IndubitableBayAreaGM on Aug 1, 2008 12:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rebuttle
1st.
Plan B is trash for 2 reasons. 1. because Marcus isn’t Baron (if he was Plan B would be kind of like the last two like you pointed out) and 2 because havin SJax at the 4 is worse than Al (Al is stronger and better suitted but still not a four and SJax has a rough time with the 3’s in the league so he would get murdered by the DOMINATE 4s).. If Monta doesn’t pan out at point than he’ll be back at the 2 because he is a natural (but short & small) 2 guard. and that would mean If Monta goes back to the 2, that Jax is either retired traded or really pissed off because they didn’t sign Maggs to come off the bench. Thats the reasoning IBAGM. Plus how we’re shapping out Monta will have to stay at the point when Randolph becomes a starter and Maggs goes to the 2 (Did Ya Forget?).
2nd.
Youtube is a great thing because like you said you can see alot of moments as many times as you would like but the Marcus Williams mixtape was just ok. He took some weird shots and they we’re kind of wild but I know the guy can play because I watched him play at UConn when I wasn’t studying. I hope he does really well because dude has the (I hate to say it) potential to be another DWill.
"Get Er Dun!"
by YayArea510 on Aug 2, 2008 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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