A letter to the Golden State Warriors Nation
Dear beloved Golden State,
We should have seen it coming. Though I admit, as most will, I was first taken by surprise late Monday night when Baron Davis opted out of the final year of his contract, I soon realized how much sense it all made. This is Baron Davis; the drama king of the NBA, the man whose game fluctuated night after night between god-awful and top tier point guard. And just like his so often daring shot selection, he made the daring move to opt out. And as always, as crazy as these decisions seem, it some how works out. Yet he left us with nothing. But of course that is the way it turned out, after all, these are the Golden State Warriors; the former laughing stock of the NBA next to only, well, the Clippers. This is a franchise whose story is built around unsuccessful draft picks and getting spurned by players for bigger bucks. Was there any other way this all could have worked out? Of course, you all know all of this already.
Of course, Baron's departure leaves a void in this team that no one is talking about; a void that began to depart with Jason Richardson a year ago today. With the exiting of these two players, our beloved Warriors are once again left without an identity, a soul, or a heart beat; the same problem that haunted them for 13 postseason-less years. Jason was undoubtedly the heart of the Warriors, he had been there for enough of the struggles to realize that what had finally been assembled should not be wasted. We witnessed him fight and give it his all, and as fans we loved him for that. He would have sold his soul to the devil if it meant success for our team. But what Jason lacked was a killer-instinct; he wanted it, but it just wasn't in his DNA. This is where Baron made up for what Jason lacked; the daringness to take the shot, as well as the ability to make it. He was crazy, but it was controlled.Together, combined with the right amount of craziness from good old Stephen Jackson, they were a perfect mesh. It was exactly what this fan base needed; a bunch of pirates who could get the job done. On any night they could beat anyone and on any other night they could get blown out, but I guarantee there was never a team that wanted to play this group of bandits. They were the reason for "We Believe." With their heart and courageousness combined, they gave us the ability to believe. So with Jason's departure, the heart of the team left and as last season dwindled down, the effort did as well. Now with Baron's departure, they wont just be missing an all-star caliber point guard, but they will lose their leader; the man who was crazy, but kept it all under control. He had a bond with Stephen Jackson that cannot be replaced, and who knows how that will turn out? As much as I love him and hope he stays, there may be fear about ever Stephen being the same player.There is no more identity.
Maybe he just needs time, but I don't see Monta Ellis ever fulfilling these needs. Can he be a go-to scorer? Absolutely. There is no reason he shouldn't average 25 points a game next year. So though he can carry the offense, he cannot carry this team's emotions. And all of the best teams have some one who can. The Spurs have Duncan, the Suns have Nash, the Celtics have three guys, the Pistons have Billups, and I guess you could say the Lakers have Kobe, but who ever really know with him.
I think Mullin knows this, but after Jason left he also knew this team would never be the same again and thus, keeping Baron around for the long-haul on a team that wanted a new identity was pointless. Mullin knows its time to take this team's identity from crazy and unpredictable to, well, just flat-out good and they've got the young guys (though I'm skeptical) to build around. So what else exactly does this team need?
If you think about it, this teams needs are still exactly the same, plus the emotional leader. They still need a big rebounder/shot blocker, a consistent three-point shooter, and a point guard. Right off the bat, a perfect three-point specialist is James Jones (go ahead and check his three-point field goal percentage last year). Not only that, but he can also play both forward spots. As for point guard, I've been mulling over a guy for the past couple of days that no one is talking about and I can't figure out why. He is 6'7", he was a top 5 pick, he is 22 years old, he could come fairly cheep, and is the only unrestricted free agent this year who has a shot at being a star whose name isn't Gilbert Arenas, Baron Davis, and Elton Brand. And oh yeah, he is a former Clipper. His name is Shaun Livingston and he might just turn out to be the perfect guard to pair up with Monta in the back court. If he ever lives up to his potential, they would easily be the best young back court in the NBA. I know he's had a major history of injuries, but why not take a shot at two years worth a little more than the mid-level exception? Even if he doesn't work out, he'll be a nice back up for Monta at the point. Please, no more guys like Jamal Crawford or Jamal Tinsley. Honestly, what can they really bring to this young team? For years we have seen the Warriors fill their starting roster with place holders (Speedy Claxton, Dale Davis, Clifford Robinson to name a few recent ones) to play next to their budding stars (Richardson, Arenas, Ellis) waiting for the right guy to turn up at that position and only once has it worked (Davis). Now Davis is gone and Livingston could offer a potential permanent solution to the point guard position for the Warriors. If they're going to take a chance on a guy like Crawford or Tinsley, why not take a chance on a guy like Livingston instead.
Warriors fans, I ask that we band together and ensure our team does not get stuck in a well too familiar position. As for a legitimate big man, there are few options and it most some how come through a trade likely involving Harrington and future picks.
Last but not certainly not least, we as fans must do what is in our power to keep Jackson around. It is time the man with the tattooed gun fully mature into everything this team needs. Though it may be a lot to ask, I have faith and so should you. He took major strides these past seasons with the Warriors under Nelson and this season must be the final step. Pardon me for the corny simile, but in a sense he is Batman. The one where Christian Bale has so much potential to lead, yet so much uncontrolled violence and it is not until he learns to tame it that he can take Gotham to the heights his father (in this case Davis) once took it. Jackson's fiery passion can be the fuel for this teams success just as much Jason's heat was. And hell, we already know he's just as crazy as Baron when it comes to shot selection (think Los Angeles Lakers, second game in LA) and we certainly know he can hit the big-shot (think Los Angeles Lakers, second game in LA). Stephen Jackson is no longer a tri-captain, but the sole ring leader to what should be an interesting ride. Granted he is no Duncan or Nash, but they just wouldn't be the Warriors style anyways. And who knows, maybe soon enough the Warriors luck will change and that guy will come around for them. Or maybe I'm wrong and Monta can develop into that guy. But at this point, is there really any other guy you'd rather hand the keys over to than good ol' Captain Jack?
Sincerely,
Gregory Kalin
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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good lookin out gregory. nice to read something other than, “wahh! mulson is worthless, wahh! our owner is cheap, wahh! why didnt we give baron everything he wanted, wahh, wahh, wahh!! last i checked the sky wasnt fallin, touch on the grey side but not fallin. the baron era was fun while it lasted but over whether or not we like it. its funny cuz no one was callin mully incompetent when he heisted baron in the first place. or drafted monta, when a lot of others passed him up. has his tenure been perfect? hell no, not even close! but from the baron trade til the present i think he.s done fairly well i.e. bringin in nelson, not over payin for barnes and frenchie. pluckin buke from the d not to mention the pillaging of the pacers. jackson was as big a part of this thing as baron but people seem to forget that. yeah baron will be missed and it sucks the way it went down, from both sides. surely all that we believe biz wasnt just some trendy ass fad. if cats on this site really believe then sit back and let the man responsible for baron even bein here in the first place do his thing. One Dub!
a guy for the past couple of days that no one is talking about and I can't figure out why.
Simply because his injury was so bad. They thought he might lose his leg at one time.
Definitely worth a gamble but he won’t be able to be our starter this year. If we get Livingston we’ll need someone like Jason Williams or Luke Ridnaur for a short term place holder.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 4, 2008 9:39 PM PDT reply actions
Agreed.
Someone who can be consistent and someone we can get for a good deal. I really believe we might be heading to be “The Replacements” of basketball… since we can’t really land and franchise changing players which is fine.. I’m actually excited to watch the people and players we have currently. Shaun Livingston is a player who might be a big steal for us if he really become the player he was projected to be… he’ll be cheap and we’re really the only team that has the cap space to risk money on someone like him… Nuff said go for it. Easy decision if our options at pgs disappears, and even if that is the case… I’d still definitely sign him ASAP just because of potential..
I am as powerful as 100 times 100 times 100 times 13 Stilts!
most overrated player in the nba...
baron davis. addition by subtraction here.
by PippenAintEasy on Jul 5, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
is that a joke?
he’s top 5 in the nba at one of the most premium positions. If anything he’s been UNDERrated the last couple years. I dont think he has more than a couple years left in him, and I’m glad the dubs didnt match the offer, but dont get carried away. The guy is a stud.
i'm with you on this one
Livingston is worth the gamble if the price isn’t high, but as as skeptic says, you’ll need someone like those mentioned as a place holder.
His injury was such that even though he can play now, you won’t really know what you have until a year from now, at least. Whoever signs him will have to be patient…
wow
great post. First post that i actually kept reading till it ended. I agree why not take a chance on Livingston and also agree on your points about Captain Jack, just overall good post.
by warriorsalltheway on Jul 4, 2008 11:46 PM PDT reply actions
+1
Well done. Another big guard mentioned that I like is Crittenton. Let’s see if Mully has the hoopspa to pull it off…
Excellent article Greg
I agree with pretty much all of your points. I like the idea of getting Livingston – he is a big point guard, an excellent defender, is only 22, and has lots of potential. I think we should also try and get Andre Iguodala as he is a good defender, is still only 24, gets lots of rebounds, assists and steals for his position and he could play well with Ellis.
Then, next season the guard positions could be as follows:
PG: Livingston, Ellis
SG, Iguodala, Belinelli, Ellis
by zaki on Jul 5, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope you don't mean Ellis is our backup pg and 3rd string sg
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Jul 6, 2008 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the letter...
Bottom line is Buy a ticket(s), watch the games on Comcast, FSN, TNT – be a FAN of the Warriors. Support is welcomed and appreciated. Recent posts by some on this site, along with the disturbed post by the principals of this site drive some fans to other sites that suppoet the Warriors (good or bad).
Thanks again for the letter…enjoy the summer league games!
Time to move on...
Yup, I concur, good post. Can’t cry over spilled milk… that’s pasSse!!! I also agree with SHOOTING, Capt. Jack and each one of the players are as much as responsible for the success of the team (as much as BD). What he provided was leadership, but guess what? I don’t think that leadership will be missed because Capt. Jack is back and he will not slack. Remember, if not for his suspension, the DUBS would have been in the playoffs.
As much as I hate BD’s departure, I cannot really blame him. He has to do what is best for him. So, good luck to him. Besides, he gave it his all when he was as DUBS. Can’t ask for anything else. Wish him the best. It’s all business gents.
Very good post!!
I agree with your assessment of Livingston….I give him a 2 year deal, IF he gets with MJ’s trainer and puts in work to strengthen and tone that weak body. Livingston has to get his body ready for the rigors of an NBA season. He might not get but 1 more chance. I hope its here.
Thank GOD for Gregory Kalin,
I’m away from this place for a few months and it turns into a ladies bathroom. I’ve always thought that atma & co had it in the Warriors management, but their constant crying over these recent developments w/o anything constructive to add about our predicament as warrior fans to balance their whining(like b——es), doesn’t help at all.
I came here after hearing the news of BD’s impending departure, partially to vent, partially to find solice that there may be a silver lining, and all I saw from the frontliners here was “this loser franchise” this, “this loser franchise” that. That’s all I got from Atma’s frontpage stuff. Way to pour salt in the wound fellas. We’re all Warriors fans here, & are smart enough to see the obvious things like “this sure sucks” and what not. It takes real intelligence to try to see if there is lemonade to be made by this batch of lemons we just got.
Thank you Gregory for giving me a reason to check back into this place. I’ve been a Warrior fan pre-BD, I’ll be one post-BD. Over 20 years of following the dubs has conditioned me to be overly optimistic about their future. I was one of those dudes cheering in the O during those lean years, which helped define us as the NBA’s most loyal fans. I’m not about to let Baron Davis’ latest b—-h move mess that up too.
by Tim&ChrisBurger on Jul 6, 2008 12:49 AM PDT reply actions
Atma et al
I only skimmed through their blogs. I’m guessing the reason why they called the Ws a “loser franchise” is because:
They were irrelevant since the early 90s; then they finally get together a solid core of players (JRich, BD, Monta, etc) to reach the playoffs 2 seasons ago; have a decent season only to miss the playoffs last season, and then blow it all up?
I understand why they were called a “loser franchise” because that’s what they are. They tease us long-suffering fans. THEY NEED TO STOP RE-BUILDING because all it ever did to them was bring in the Ben McDonalds of the world, the Carlos Rogers of the world, the Jerome Whiteheads of the world, the Tim Leglers of the world, etc etc. They suck for the longest time, they find a solid core and reach the playoffs, then they blow it all up, which started last year when they dumped JRich and his salary – a result of bad signings of previous players.
And guess what people? It’s OK to whine on the Internet…this is what blogs are for, to tell us how you feel.
I was listening to KNBR yesterday and they had Mike Connell as the guest and said the Ws have the money to go after a big name player (Brand, etc). Even if they do sign a big name player, they’d have to start from scratch all over again. What the Ws need is continuity. They could have had continuity with Rich, BD, ME, AB, etc had they not messed up with Foyle, Dampier and other bad signings.
BTW, just because I believe they are a loser franchise does not mean I am a lesser fan than you (those who say “I believe”). I’ve been a long-suffering fan since 1981, but that does not mean you (the “I believe” fan) are a worthier fan than I.
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
by MANUTEs BOLs on Jul 8, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
been really busy at my new job
also, I think they monitor my time on the Internet…but shhhhhh
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
by MANUTEs BOLs on Jul 8, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope this post wasn't aimed at me...
Because if it was, try actually reading the post instead of just skimming through it…
No where in my post did I criticize the worthiness( is this even a word?) of any fan. If you’re a self-depreciating, uber pessimist fan, then so be it, more power to you, I’m all for the vibrance of a diverse fan base. I was criticizing the frontpage guys for their lack of balance in this regard. NOT questioning their worth as fans.
Believe it or not the world is full of proactive cats who believe in dealing w/ things in the here and now. Ishh happens, we roll with the punches. Outside of learning lessons, ain’t ishh to be gained by living in the past. Like it or not, BD opting out is old news. Its the past. As fans, there’s absolutely nothing we could do to change that FACT. No amount of calling the Warriors franchise “losers”;no amount of negative posts about the warrior’s big wigs… Absolutely nothing we do will change the inevitable departure of boom dizzle.
Yet those kind of posts populate 80% of this board. I KNOW it SUCKS to lose BD. DO I NEED TO SEE IT 1500000000000 times posted here in some form or another. At what point does it become cliche & trite?
I swear, pretty much the only reason I check in on this site now a days is to see what JAE has to say.
"I am the CHOSEN ONE"
by Tim&ChrisBurger on Jul 8, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
no it was not aimed at you...
it was aimed at those who keep saying “I believe”...I sense these “fans” question “critical” fans those (who believe the Ws as being a loser franchise) as lacking loyalty. It was a general statement…nothing to do with you.
As for Atma’s “loser franchise” statement, you can’t blame him for that. Just look at their history. They don’t know how to keep key personnel. Just because “We’re all Warriors fans here” don’t mean we can’t criticize them. I take it you’ve witnessed what 3 or 4 post-season appearances since you’ve been a Ws fan? I give you credit for being patient and wanting to move on. But you have to respect how others react to certain things. Let Atma do his thing.
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
Finally, another person with optimism...
Ive been trying to tell people that everything is going to be ok. It just seems people think without Baron, we’ll be the worst team in the league. I still think that we can have a good year. That Livingston idea was good. Thats something Im sure Mullin has to be thinkin about. i would like someone who could/will pay off in the long run, not earl watson so we can get his contract off the books in 2 years. We have young pieces that def. could pay off if in a year or 2. But anyways, just to throw this out there…if a Livingston deal doesnt work out, what about Raymond Felton? Im sure the bobcats dont want to have both he and augustine. Maybe a sign and trade deal for Felton, by giving away biedrins, and then in turn taking the money we have used to sign Biedrins and get the “big-body” people have always said we needed and get somebody like Okafor?
Good read though…
optimism this optimism that
the reality is, the Dubs don’t know how to manage $$$ and there’s a good chance they’re gonna be irrelevant in the next couple years – I HOPE THEY PROVE ME WRONG. But because I know their history of bad signings/unsignings, more than likely, we’ll see another “dark ages” to come. Again, I HOPE THEY PROVE ME WRONG
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
by MANUTEs BOLs on Jul 8, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Recent history is different
When Foyle comes off the books, the worst contract we have will be Al Harrington (assuming they don’t hand out 100M/5 years to Monta). That’s something to look forward to. In the recent past they’ve gotten rid of all the “bad signings”. Who knows what we offered BD. Are you really telling me that you’d like to pay BD 15M in 5 years when he’s 34 after his injury history? We know he broke down towards the end of the season. I’m 99.99% positive that he played through some injuries that he normally wouldn’t because it was a contract year. He’s not going to do that next year, or the following year. It’s not going to happen.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 8, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
we have a history of having bad management
But my point simply is, none of the guys we had in our recent core group would have left had mgmt been smarter with the money in the past. I wouldn’t give BD a 5+ years extension, but he may have been content with a 2 yr extension if the Ws maintained the core.
What we’re seeing now is the long-lasting effect of bad mgmt…not having the $ to keep the core begets more sub-par players (ie. Lewis Lloyd, Les Jepsen, etc) on your team. Big name players would also stay away from a team like the Ws.
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
The core?
You mean JRich? The owner of a fat 3 year/40M contract right now? That guy? Or do you mean DunMurph? Gilbert left of his own accord, and there was nothing management could have done. And we wouldn’t have made the trade for BD if we had Gilbert anyways… so I don’t know what core you’re talking about. Please extrapolate.
Yes, we lost JRich because of irresponsible fiscal decisions. It’s in the past. I’m not going to touch your BD would have stayed for a 2 year extension if we kept “the core”. I seriously doubt he would have walked away from long term security to potentially make the second round again. Woo!
My entire point was that, although there were many bad fiscal decisions that hurt the team in the distant past, in the recent past things have been different. We’re still seeing the effects of the distant past because we lost the decent talent because we overpaid for it, and the $$ on the books we couldn’t get rid of is still on the books. After next year, it’s over. There are no more bad contracts, except for Foyle’s buy out. Stop being so pessimistic and dwelling on the past. It’s over. The future is here, and the recent past shows that we don’t have horrible contracts to look forward to.
We’re almost out of salary cap hell. Mullin seems to have learned from his mistakes. Let’s see where that goes.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 9, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
even you agreed with me when you said...
“My entire point was that, although there were many bad fiscal decisions that hurt the team in the distant past, in the recent past things have been different. We’re still seeing the effects of the distant past because we lost the decent talent because we overpaid for it, and the $$ on the books we couldn’t get rid of is still on the books.”
The core I was referring to was the one that recently made the playoffs…we had BD, JR, Jax, ME, AB…we just needed to keep them and add a couple more decent players. BUT, due to their $ mgmt, they weren’t able to better themselves. They came close to reaching the WC finals if they had an answer to Boozer and Millsap. Don’t you think that was a good core to build around?
As far as dwelling on it, you bet I’ll keep dwelling on it. Aren’t you sick and tired of irrelevancy? Mediocrity? I’ll be pessimistic as long as they keep losing – BUT that does not mean I’ll lose fandom (is that a word???). They’ve given me more heartaches than any other Bay Area team. So why stop now?
The pattern here is: they get a good player, surround them with OK talent, the good player leaves (via trade, unable to resign, etc), then they try to replace that good player with another good player, then the role players have to adjust to that new good player (which may take years), then the role players leave, but they get replaced by other OK role players, then the new good player would have to adjust to the new role players.
The bottom line is, if you can’t manage $, you’ll be stuck in the cellar. And hopefully this would be the last suckfullness we’ll see for a long time now that they’re almost out of salary cap hell. I certainly hope we can attract some elite players.
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
by MANUTEs BOLs on Jul 9, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
We seem to be on the same boat here...
I think you’re just a little more cynical, probably from too many bad years…
I really see that Mullin has already turned the corner. The final test will be what he does next year with Foyle coming off the books. Does he start anew with crappy contracts? Given his recent performance, I say no. And that leaves room for optimism.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 9, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You know it just sucks when
they have a good, promising season just to know they can’t keep the group together the following years due to salary hell. It’s an ugly tease that’s been going on since the day I became a fan.
JR...An All-Time Warriors Favorite!
The Only Optimism I Have Is...
That we will win more games then we did back in 1998. Other than that, it’s back to the good ole days of rooting on a par/sub par team. Gotta love them Dubs no matter. It just hurts every time we get relegated back to mediocrity.
On the bright side
In many of those instances, getting relegated to mediocrity was an upgrade!
Sign ^^^^ !!
Oye Vey!
Sad, yet true Sleepy…I’m still in shock. Someone please give me some good news-Jamal Tinsley was just mentioned in a recent post (throwing up in my mouth)...
Tinsley
When the alternative is watching Montay try to dribble Tinsley looks like an oasis in the desert. And look at the bright side, our team armament just doubled.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 7, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Shaun Livingston Sounds good
If he can ever recover. I say try to go for Kyle Lowry from Memphis.
2006-2007: Year of the Funleavy!
Captain Jack
The great Billy Joel said it best: “Captain Jack will get you high tonight”
by EternalWarriorsOptimist on Jul 8, 2008 5:12 PM PDT reply actions

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