Jae, fill me in on the cap space please. You say “Azubuike can be signed independent of the cap, as can Ellis and Biedrins. I’m gonna guess: 2.2, 9, 9 for the trio next year. This keeps the team right below the lux tax if they spend the rest of the cap”. Wait ,so there salaries don’t count against salary cap, but actually do against the luxury tax? So even if we sign Beans, Monta, uki and end up with 60-61mil payroll, we will still be techically under the salary cap, and will have to spend some money? I’m confused man

with your projected 9mil of cap left. i think they will go for a big may be james jones or somebody. they then would need to trade al to a team with cap room like the griz for a pg. hinrich cap # is to high. i wouldnt be surprised if jax was the one that got moved though. mully is full of surprises

I was all for keeping the cap space, sucking horribly, and receiving a high lotto pick, but now that we dipped into the cap to get Maggette, it’s time to go big or go home.

The Nets probably won’t demand much for Carter and will love to clear his contract so they could have a shot at two big time players in the 2010 free agency pool. Teaming Lebron with Bosh or Wade when moving to Brooklyn would be a huge coup.

Carter makes 15 mill this year so how about trading Jack + future picks and absorbing Carter’s 15 mill with our available cap space?

Turn around and call up Joe D and see if he’s at all interested in a Harrington/Billups swap. We might have to spruce up the deal with a future pick or two.

Starting Lineup

Billups
Ellis
VC
Wright
Biedrins

Sixth Man: Maggs

yeah this signing makes us better, but how much better is what is in question. i am sure the offseason isn’t done yet, but i don’t see us improving our team that much to make a run for the championship in this western conference. in fact i see it hindering our chances because of the size of maggete’s contract. i always thought patience is a virtue and thats what ainge and the celts did. that’s what kupchak did to get gasol. i was hoping we would do the same. oh well…..go dubs anyways!

Maggette will do well on this team, but I agree with most of you: it was a bit much. Maggette opted out of a $7mill paycheck to go into FA knowing that there were only 2 teams that could offer him more than the MLE, which were Philly and Memphis. It seems to me that he was looking more for a big total contract as opposed to a bump in annual salary. Otherwise, why opt out of a $7 mill deal to take a $5.8 mill deal? If the other potential suitors were offering $5.8, the W’s offering $8.6 seems to be $1.5 mill too much. Too bad the W’s had all this cap space in a weak FA year.

worse shooter. that’s it.

wtf is this man. does the front office really think we can make a playoff run with what is in essence a maggette for davis trade? if not, then why not save the money, let the young guns develop and make a serious run for the crazy FA’s next season?

fuck man. wtf is this middle of the road bullshit. like i said before in a fanpost, i don’t care what the strategy as long as you stick to it… but this is fan appeasement/play-the-safe-card to the fullest.

grow some balls.

If we got Corey to package to Detroit with Harrington, then I like the move. Otherwise, losing Baron for Corey and an additional 15 million over the next five years is terrible. I think Nellie does not like Baron. I can’t wait Nellie to leave GSW.

is if we get Starbury

I heard the Warriors offered Baron a two year deal. That is like telling him to leave. Sound like the same old Warriors with Nellie to me.

Because he put up a ton of shots. Career 45% shooter and he drives most of the time.

I don’t totally hate either of these signings. Both of these guys certainly have their uses, and while we’re overpaying a bit for both, neither contract is ridiculous.

But I’m hoping we already have a pretty good idea of where we’re sending Al. Because this roster is pretty imbalanced, and that’ll be immediately apparent to other teams… Al’s clearly pretty worthless to us at this point. That makes it hard to get value for the guy.

If we can move Al for something useful, whether it be PG depth, a pick or a touch of cap space, then this’ll all add up just fine. But if we just grabbed these guys without any forethought, this could get a little ugly.

I feel a lot better about this signing now that I realize that we wouldn’t be able to sign a free agent next year after resigning Monta and AB this year. Maggette was the best UFA available and it was absolutely the right move to sign him while we still had money to sign free agents. We obviously had to overpay a little or else why would he come to Oakland but it wasn’t outrageous and he’s a lot better than getting nothing.

who will it be?

that bad getting CM, rather have gotten iggy instead but this is not a bad pick up, even if we over paid. we get bigger (CM for BD ), more athletic, better FT %. I know everyone is concerned about a pg, but i believe the way we play ME would do just fine, when we’re playing good we’re not running too many half-court sets and even then, who was the team’s best isolation player the 2nd half of the season? what we really need is our 1st rounders to contribute, that’s why i’m really interested in summer league.

OK, let’s put the Dubs at $9m under the cap- seems fair.

That would mean around $49.5m (I’m giving a little more space).

From there, let’s say that the absolute max management would be willing to pay is $70m, which is just under the luxury tax. I’d argue that it’s less than that, but I’m giving a best case scenario.

As such, the Warriors would have $20.5m in reasonable space. Whether you think Monta and Beans combine to make $18m (like you do) or $20.5m (like I do), there isn’t much space to work with there, and there can’t be any argument that ME, AB, and Turiaf would fill this gap. Even with potential trades of Harrington and Steven Jackson, the 125% rule will be in effect, so the max the Warriors could shed in those deals would be $3-4m, and that’s a best-case scenario (to be technical, $4.09m of savings is the absolute max if there were theoretically players making exactly 75% of those two and were available). As such, the Warriors would then have room to sign Turiaf and some $2m guy without going over the tax.

I like Pargo waayyyy better than Dooling. Pargo is more versatile…..... Either way both would have trouble with all the big PGs…...