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Mullin started off his tenure as GM, well, sucking big time (see his first 5 major contracts and most of his drafts).

After the Indiana trade, I had finally gained some faith in Mullin's ability to evaluate talent and make deals accordingly as GM.

I reluctantly saw the J-Rich deal as necessary. It seemed the W's were finally giving us reason to be optimistic.

Now, first, we lose BD, the heart and soul of our team, not to mention the best Warrior in a long time, and gotten nothing for him. The losing him probably wasn't as much Mullin's fault as it was his design, but getting nothing for him was his fault.

What does Mullin do? After he finally got our from under the horrible deals he gave to Murphy, Foyle, Dunleavy and to a lesser extent J-Rich- what does he do with that cap room? Give $10 M per year to a 6th man who to a degree duplicates two of our best players in Monta and SJax?

$3M more a year on that deal could have gotten us Josh Smith or Baron. I'm not saying either of those sigings would have been the wisest, but if you are going to spend $50+ M on a player over five years, get something better than fucking Maggette!

This stinks of PR desperation by the W's front office: they missed out on BD (or what they could have got for him), Gilbert and Brand all in a very short span. So, they decided they would just sign the next biggest name left on the market.

Gee, where have I heard that one before? Oh yeah, two years ago when the Giants tried to sign Gary Matthews, Jr., Carlos Lee, and Alfonso Soriano and missed on all 3. So, they signed the next biggest name left on the market: Barry "shit, look who's pitching today" Zito.

I by no means am saying Maggette is going to become a headcase and have the sharpest decline of his career, BUT he sure as shit is going to end up as a severely expensive PR move 3,2 or even 1 year down the line.

Plus, here are some interesting comparisons:

Baron Davis DOB: April of 79 Career avg. games/season: 60.8

Corey Magette: DOB: Nov of 79 Career avg. games/season: 65.4

So, if you buy the logic of not re-signing Baron b/c he was "old and injury prone" as I and many did, why the fuck would we give almost as much $$ to a player only 6 months younger and nearly just as likely to miss a significant amount of games each year?!

Idiotic, this was an idiotic move by Mullin and he no longer deserves my faith as a fan in his abilities as a GM.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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come on this signing is not that bad. I mean Mullin is trying his best don’t just give up on him. Hes doing what he is suppose to do to try to save the off season.

by pat52willis on Jul 8, 2008 9:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Its quite simple

Its Maggette or nothing else. Brand is in Philly, Iguodala is restricted agent as is Josh Smith meaning that their respective teams have about a week to match any offer. In 1 week after NBA teams can sign players, Maggette could be lured away and the Warriors could end up with absolutely nothing at all. Philly has cap space with them getting rid of 2 of their role players and Atlanta would probably part ways with Childress to keep Josh Smith.

U’d probably be even more upset if the Warriors let Maggette slip away and brought in Kirk Hinrich. The Warriors were already burned by Baron, they didn’t wanna be burned again by not bringing in a talent like Maggette. Remember, the Warriors still consider themselves a playoff team as well, they couldn’t just waste a year by not signing a starter calliber player

I make love to pressure - Stephen Jackson

by Ro3ert0 on Jul 8, 2008 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3 mil more doesn't bring Smith

please show me the evidence that JSmith would come to Warriors for three mill more than what we gave Maggette. I don’t think he would and you don’t KNOW that he would – don’t print statements that suggest facts when they are just your theory.
Also, we don’t know how good Wright or Randolph will be – J Smith would hinder their growth.
Hate on Mullin if you like but he’s one of many teams and many gms trying to get the same small group of guys. Players decide where they want to play (see baron and brand) not Mullin. I think magette will be a decent pickup. Better we pay him a bit too much than end up with nada.

Warrior fan for life - where we are "always just a big man away" from total domination

by buttafingas on Jul 8, 2008 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

you people are ridiculous. if he doesn’t sign maggette and they get nothing, you’ll complain they did nothing. If they sign Maggette for a bit above the midlevel (which is what they HAD to do in order to sign him) you complain about the contract.

Bottom line, we signed a pretty good scorer and still have enough money to resign the core of Ellis and Biedrins. On top of that, we can still go after one more guy! Wait till everything is done, they’re out on the court and losing before you start to bitch and complain.

by mikey J on Jul 8, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd of rather had nothing.

this proves mully is still prone to panicking in dire situations. he panicked w/ jr, fisher, foyle, dunmurphy to try and build a core and get to the playoffs. now he’s panicking w/ the loss of BD by overpaying a Jerry Stackhouse type player for too many years.

though i don’t like the signing regardless, i would not have minded as much if it was for 2 years. to be honest i’d of much rather given Azubuike more of a chance than sign Magette at all.

by the evil monkey on Jul 8, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kaz

is probably not going to stay now that Mags is on board. He did deserve more of a chance but in a situation where you have a proven player over a question mark, you still have to go with the experienced one. Especially since without this signing, the Oracle would have been half empty. Mags helps them sell a few extra tickets and merchandise.

by misterjennings on Jul 8, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

without this signing, the Oracle would have been half empty.

You really think people want to see Magette? I don’t know but he doesn’t seem like a draw to me? Kellena was becoming a fan favorite so it seems like magette is not worth the extra money over Bukkake as far as appeal goes? Hell, I’d rather watch Jason Williams play for a minimum dollar deal!

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 8, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

buke not maggette

buke is a good role player but he is too inconsistent to average 22 a night like maggette

Warrior fan for life - where we are "always just a big man away" from total domination

by buttafingas on Jul 8, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This year's FA crop

is not deep at all. Dubz probably got the best player available out of it. ATL is going to match every penny for Smith and Brand took 10 mil less to go back East where it will be easier to make the playoffs. Spurs and Celtics were after Mags for the MLE but money still talks in this business. It’s just like the Raiders having to pay retarded money just for above average guys to play for them. This move doesn’t put the Dubz into the playoffs, but it makes losing Baron hurt less.

Mags is not a bad offensive player. He can create his own offense which should make Monta’s pg transition smoother as that would be 1 less guy to have to set up. I’m pretty sure Monta will be running point on opening night.

by misterjennings on Jul 8, 2008 9:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ooooooooo....

you said so many bad words.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Jul 8, 2008 9:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a difficult situation

we were gonna have to overpay for anyone we got. Sure it may have been smarter to save that money and throw a fairly pathetic team out there hoping to land a top draft choice. But thats a tough strategy to swallow and sell to most fans.

by sam23 on Jul 8, 2008 9:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm… 6 to 8 million a year for Maggette? or 13-15 mil for baron?, huge difference. If he doesn’t work out for us, it’ll be a hell of a lot easier to trade him then Baron would. Not many teams have cap room for a player like Baron. Mullin is doing what he can with whats on the table for him. Did he know Baron was gonna walk a way from 17.8 mil? prolly not, nobody did. But it happened and he is doing what is going to help the team. Are we better w/o maggette at this point? prolly not. We need as much help as we can get right now, and I don’t think maggette is coming at a bad price b/c we still have a ton more money to go after another player.

by celicadriven27 on Jul 8, 2008 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this is a good signing for us

Maggette averaged more points and both higher FG, 3pt, AND FT% than baron last year in what will probably be the best season of his career. barons definitely a better leader as he is a point guard. Maggette plays the 3 and stack jack can play the 2 so he doesnt have to play a forward spot. monta showed huge signs of improvement towards the end of the year with his passing abilities and even had a couple games wit more assists than “HollyBoom”

by 3Kings650 on Jul 8, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If the choice is Maggette or nothing, I’ll take nothing in the current situation that we are in.

Not saying Maggette is bad, but how much better does he make us? Are we a title contender? No? Because if we’re not, we should be rebuilding, not struggling to stay afloat as the 8th/9th place team in a stacked West.

I would rather have no Maggette and see what kind of a player we have in Azubuike (who has looked impressive when he has gotten consistent minutes) and suck, yes, but suck so we get a higher pick in the draft and a point guard for the future.

Rebuilding sucks but mediocrity is worse. At least with rebuilding there is a hope that it will pay off. Mediocrity does not translate into championships, it is like a quick fix to be just good enough, not great.

Who knows though? Maybe the Warriors start Buike and have Maggs as the sixth man. Maybe I won’t dislike this move as much as I do right now later. But right now, it is really hard to see what the plan is. We potentially have 4 out of the 5 positions locked up for the future, and 3 potential rotational players, but we still need a PG. I figured that after this year we could get one of the many (Jennings, Rubio, Holliday) with our pick. Now I’m not so sure.

I’ll keep my negative comments about this deal to a minimum after this though. At least, I’ll try.

by belilaugh on Jul 8, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I won’t dislike this move as much as I do right now later

I wouldn’t count on that. 5 years/50 mil to a brittle 29 year old is not gonna look better in 3 years(is it?) How much would we had to spend to get Iggy? or what kind of cheaper young talent was out there? Feel better now?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 8, 2008 11:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're bribing players to come here

Think about it. We couldn’t lure Arenas or Brand to play here for more money. Players are blackballing Mullin. How much more did we have to offer Magette to get him than any other team. 20-25%? This franchise is in the toilet. Can Monta opt for the QO instead of signing a deal? If I were his agent, I would recommend. Dude’s going to drop 27 ppg next year.

"We're Menudo," -BB

by eshock on Jul 9, 2008 12:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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