Warriors might sign Turiaf to offer sheet

0h h L no

4 million dollars you gotta be kidding me…............... rite

-61ixty

by 61ixty on Jul 8, 2008 11:53 PM PDT 0 recs

what the hell

"It's not my fault your team's so shitty." -Steve Friend, head coach, Chabot College, to Laney College's head coach, who asked why we scored so many runs after we beat Laney 30-3 in 2006

by flipgatey3 on Jul 9, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up 0 recs

Add Turiaf's front loaded contract...

to Al’s -> then look for another teams big contract that matches – maybe expiring? Not saying this will happen, but there are options…

by streetballer on Jul 10, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

But

Lakers are already 4 million over luxury and only have 10 players signed. So is Turiaf really worth 8 Million to them just for this year?

by The Golden One on Jul 9, 2008 12:08 AM PDT up 0 recs

yes.

he should be a warrior by next week.

by Dubsack on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

wait.

he’s restricted.

by Dubsack on Jul 9, 2008 12:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

Anyway...

(and this is a reach), Baron backs out and works a sign and trade to the Lake Show?

Baron/Harrington for Turiaf (S&T)/Odom (last year of contract)/another player to make the numbers work (Ariza?/Mihm?)

Baron’s happy, goes to a real contender and back to LA. They don’t lose anything for except more money for Turiaf (more luxury tax). Warriors get the guy they want, and rent Odom for a year.

We would be looking at:

Ellis, Maggette, Jax, Odom, Biedrins

Wright, Turfiaf, Belinelli, Randolph, Hendrix, Watson, Buike

Warriors also targeting Dooling?

by GState21 on Jul 9, 2008 5:26 AM PDT up 0 recs

If Turiaf has signed an offer sheet, this can’t happen. Offer sheet prevents a sign and trade.

by jae on Jul 9, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up 0 recs

A few years ago… Joe Johnson signed an offer sheet with Atl and asked Phx not to match. Instead of letting Johnson go for free, they matched and received Diaw and draft picks in compensation. Isn’t this a similar situation?

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 9, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up 0 recs

Turiaf?????????

Jesus….. is the front office in full flap mode?...... sit back and chill fellas, lets not make any stupid decisions here!

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 8, 2008 11:56 PM PDT 0 recs

ehh

I dont love Turiaf, but I guess we could use his size, hustle and boarding. Just that I was hoping that would be the role Hendrix would fill. Kinda hope L.A. matches this deal hindering their chances of adding another piece. Wouldnt it kinda rule out Vujacic returning though? Please dont tell me we have interest in Vujacic…if any one player could force me to abandon Warrior fanship is might be him.

by sam23 on Jul 8, 2008 11:59 PM PDT 0 recs

lol

i don’t love him either but i do love his size hustle and boarding!! and he can finish fairly well. Turiaf is so much thicker than hendrix is Turiaf is a beast.

by Agent Zero on Jul 9, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up 0 recs

hendrix is pretty solid

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up 0 recs

Oh man...

If the Warriors signed Vujacic… I don’t know what I would do. I would just blur him out of games… find some way to paste a picture of Thunder on his face when he’s in team pictures or is playing in games. Vujacic is probably the MOST ANNOYING PLAYER IN THE WORLD!

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 9, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

scary thought

heard Kawakami suggest the Warriors might be trying to bait the Lakers into retaining Turiaf at that salary when their real target is Vujacic. I really doubt thats true, but it still makes me incredibly nervous. I HATE Vujacic in the same way I hated Rick Fox and his slimy hair ‘do….maybe more.

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

he is exceptionally annoying but...

wouldn’t you want a guy like him (not him under any circumstances, everyone hates him too much), to piss off all of the warriors opponents and their fans? seems like the guy everyone throughout the rest of the league hates, but the home fanbase loves are a huge part of the great teams of this era. think rodman, fox, or bowen, or hell any of the spurs. naturally, these guys generally are not transferable from team to team (except rodman for some reason).

by cap'n hack on Jul 9, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well... NO!

I wouldn’t want Fox or Bowen either. Both were important pieces to their championship teams… But I would be able to sleep at night knowing we had a Pietrus instead of a Bowen. They basically play the same type of game (defense… treys… bad ft%)

Vujacic… he’s just a different kind of annoying. Worse than a Mike Dunleavy Jr. kind of annoying. I stand by my comment of replacing Vujacic with Thunder in my mind should he come here.

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 10, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up 0 recs

if you asked lakers and spurs fans

a question like this before they got bowen or sasha, they would have said ‘no’ too. and don’t get me wrong, bowen is his own deal, he is dirty to the point where he isn’t the just team pest, he should be suspended with consistency. bowen tries to injure players routinely. i don’t want anyone like that on the team. but an obnoxious, in-your-face, jerk who would rile everyone outside of the bay up would be fun. it’s just that he needs to be a home grown, obnoxious, in-your-face, jerk, so we can all grow to appreciate him. even if no one else can.

by cap'n hack on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up 0 recs

Not Bad

I think he could be a good fit and the price ok.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 12:00 AM PDT 0 recs

No sir.....I dont htink 4mil is an OK price considring what we may offer Buke!

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 9, 2008 12:02 AM PDT up 0 recs

Buike is a gonner. IMO. Maggette > Buike

by Dubsack on Jul 9, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

with also losing Pietrus and Barnes

I still think they will try and bring Buike back. Depth is needed.

by The Golden One on Jul 9, 2008 12:06 AM PDT up 0 recs

Maybe...

Nellie loves those kind of guys.

by Dubsack on Jul 9, 2008 12:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

we do need

a swingman who can shoot. Buike improved but I dont know if I’d call him a shooter.

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

We'll see

But just to be clear, this money came from the cap space we had left after signing CM. We can still re-sign Monta, AB and Buike without cap ramifications. I think it was an OK (just OK) move to bolster the front court while the young PF’s develop.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 12:07 AM PDT up 0 recs

my bad.

forgot buike was restricted.

by Dubsack on Jul 9, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up 0 recs

Yes Kelenna is kind of a poor man's Maggette. We don't really need to bring him back.

by houseofprime on Jul 9, 2008 4:03 AM PDT up 0 recs

but 4 mil on him

-61ixty

by 61ixty on Jul 9, 2008 12:01 AM PDT 0 recs

Dude, 4 mil in the NBA is nothing. Plus we still have 6 mil left to do some maneuvering. I remember that two years ago we could have used someone like Turiaf against Utah.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up 0 recs

two years ago we could have used someone like Turiaf against Utah.

Yeah, Too bad we don’t have the rest of the team now that we got the then missing piece!

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 9, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up 0 recs

at least

this means they are almost certainly planning to trade Al

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 12:04 AM PDT 0 recs

to where though?

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 9, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up 0 recs

Bulls for Hinrich. Bocats for Felton?

by Dubsack on Jul 9, 2008 12:12 AM PDT up 0 recs

hmmm

can we expect to be a playoff team with something like-
Heinrich/Monta/CJ
Monta/Jack/Belinelli
Jack/Maggette/Randolph
Wright/Turiaf/Hendrix
Biedrins/Turiaf/Kosta

to me thats a fringe playoff team at best, but hopefully Nellie can work some magic, or Mully can turn Al into something better than Heinrich.

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

Alot of players are still young

and have room for growing, so we just gotta see what exactly we have during the season.

by The Golden One on Jul 9, 2008 12:25 AM PDT up 0 recs

something better than Heinrich.

CJ Watson is better than Heinrich! Do you think the Bulls woulda passed on Beasley if Heinrich was a winner?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 9, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up 0 recs

who else were the bulls going to pick?

the stop calling him "beans" movement

by pervisNeverNervous on Jul 9, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up 0 recs

um......................

he just said they’d a picked Beasley over Rose if Heinrich wasn’t such a loser.

by the evil monkey on Jul 9, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up 0 recs

naw Rose is a local guy

and Beasley had character questions. Heinrich isnt THAT bad. He’s not worth the contract he’s got, but he defends well and has a high basketball IQ. He cant shoot though and thats a major concern now considering we dont really have many guys who can hit from outside playing in a system that relies on the outside shot a lot.

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

So...

Why didn’t we take Leon Powe two years ago? Why didn’t we grab Hardin? You’re way overplaying the “local guy” factor here. It’s not that important, just something ESPN likes to talk about.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 9, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up 0 recs

it wasnt a huge factor

but it probably played a role. That and Rose had just played in a national championship. And played a premier position. And the character questions around Beasley.

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up 0 recs

maybe maybe not.
would anyone have guessed the lakers were a finals team with the supporting cast kobe started out with last year? no. he certainly didnt either by trying to be traded. truth is you never know, as long as you have a star, a team that can be scrappy and get the job done, and has chemistry. but thats why they play the games. you never know what is going to happen.

by dannyschmanny on Jul 9, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

to be fair

if gasol doesn’t come, they might’ve missed the playoffs. after bynum’s injury, they had gone on a losing streak till gasol joined the team and they were 32-8 w/ him.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers27-2008may27,0,3897827.story

by the evil monkey on Jul 9, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

By “scrappy” do you mean “had an undervalued Bynum who was much better than Kobe gave him credit for and when he went down, managed to replace him with a bonafide upper tier post player in Gasol, thus improving the ~.500 team they had been over the last few years (and returned to in the interim between Bynum’s injury and Gasol’s arrival”?

The team wasn’t anything more than middle of the road with Kobe and the “scrappy” players. It was the 7 footer in the middle, 7 footers significantly above average players, who were the difference between the .500 Lakers and the NBA finalists.

by jae on Jul 9, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

And that's why big men get the big bucks

If you have one, you have a chance at a championship. If you have a good one, you’ve got a great chance.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 9, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

no thanks to hinrich

Al is an expiring contract, we should be able to get more than Hinrich(who btw is signed for FOUR or more years to a crappy contract).

by superk1ng on Jul 9, 2008 12:28 AM PDT up 0 recs

i dont like his contract

But i think Hinrich’s bad year last year was a bit of a fluke. The entire Bulls team had a terrible year and Kirk had 3 very good years and was even 2nd team all defense in 06-07. Maybe his awful year was the result of all the bad feelings going around on the Bulls. I mean his career isn’t over at the age of 27 is it?

That said, terrible contract.

by Nellieball on Jul 9, 2008 12:39 AM PDT up 0 recs

I'm betting that

NJ is definitely interest in Al for two reasons.

1) He’s a Jersey boy.
2) His contract expires the year Lebron becomes a free agent.

The question is who do the W’s get in return? Yi movement!!! LOL

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 12:41 AM PDT up 0 recs

nenad krstic

he’s due for a renewal this year, and a raise, if they don’t want to take the hit, they could swap him with big al. al could probably fill a similar need (boards + midrange game) as a temp space filler until 2010. then they can decide if they want to keep him long term or let him expire.

question is how much they value nenad.
he’s young, and has a euro big man game…

by b.radley on Jul 9, 2008 9:30 AM PDT up 0 recs

What about the trade someone mentioned earlier...

With… o wait nm we dont have that kind of space anymore…

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 9, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up 0 recs

awwwwww

i really dont like turiaf and how he ALWAYS celebrates everything little thing he does. kinda like joakim noah. like wow you drew a foul, dont need to go about pounding your chest in celebration…

by llamalimbo1 on Jul 9, 2008 12:09 AM PDT 0 recs

agreed, I would far rather a hard working Buike than Turiaf!

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

they are both hard working and we'll have both of them by the start of the preseason

by GSWarriors4life on Jul 9, 2008 12:11 AM PDT up 0 recs

that sounds good

and you’re right, turiaf is a hardworking hustle guy. the kind of big that could really add something off the bench.

by cap'n hack on Jul 9, 2008 12:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

OK so we then have Turiaf, Buike, Wright, Randolph and Hendrix all fihting for the same position?

Assuming Barnes, Croshere, Al are heading off?

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 9, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

Umm...

Buike is a SG not a PF. Randolph will likely not play much if at all this year (think B Wright last season).

Having said that I’d much prefer Turiaf and Hendrix as our back up PF/Cs than MP and Barnes from last year.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 12:20 AM PDT up 0 recs

Yea depth would be nice

8 man rotations suck after they get wore out towards the end of the season.

by The Golden One on Jul 9, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up 0 recs

randolph will play SF

he’s not projected as a big, he’s projected as a long 3, like odom or rudy gay (better comparison in my opinion).

by b.radley on Jul 9, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up 0 recs

Depends who you ask...

I have read quite a few people who’s opinion I respect say that he doesn’t have the handle or the passing ability to play out on the wing regularly. I know Mullin threw out the notion that he could play the 4, 3 or even the 2 but I think that most of this talk is just because he is incredibly skinny.

The fact is that at this point he is too small to play the 4 and doesn’t have the skills to play the 3. So either way he has some work to do before he finds any significant time on the floor.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up 0 recs

have you seen any of randolph's games?

don’t call him “without skills to play the 3” if you havent.

by dso on Jul 9, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Dude there is not much Randolph cannot do on the court.

by Nellieball on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Dude there is not much Randolph cannot do on the court.

So he won the National Championship?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 9, 2008 10:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

Are you dim? I meant as far as his skill set. There are few 6-11 players that have his skill set.

by Nellieball on Jul 10, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

I meant

Say what you mean? That’s like saying a guy can score at will. Then why doesn’t his team win by 100 points every night?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

Stop badgering the guy

It’s annoying and unnecessary.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 11, 2008 6:26 AM PDT up 0 recs

doesnt have the range to play a lot of minutes at the 3 right now

would be more accurate. I wouldnt be surprised if he starts out in Bakersfield to get some run. Our active roster spots seem to be filling up surprisingly fast actually.

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 9:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

you are probably right...

but I have read a few guys who have watched him play more than I have that say his skills are overrated. They say that his handle and passing will be very good if he is a PF but not good enough to play on the perimeter all the time against NBA SF’s. Most people agree that he doesn’t have a shot outside of 15 feet. I’ve only seen him play twice so I can’t really comment with any authority on the subject but I guess we will find out in the next year or two.

My main point was that there is quite a bit of variety in the scouting reports on this guy. Some say he’s a three some say he’s a four but almost everyone says he won’t play much his first year. I would agree that some D-League run would do him some good.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

Oh come on

You’ll love him once he’s in a Warriors jersey doing those things…

by mistererickk on Jul 9, 2008 12:14 AM PDT up 0 recs

+100000000000

Only player I liked on the Lakers last year, along with Odom.

by Nellieball on Jul 9, 2008 12:16 AM PDT up 0 recs

and bynum

by sam23 on Jul 9, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up 0 recs

$4M for 3.5 rebounds a game

good luck with that. Perovic, you got some competition mang!

"We're Menudo," -BB

by eshock on Jul 9, 2008 12:14 AM PDT 0 recs

look at his rebounds per 48 mins. I’m sure it’s a really good number.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 12:29 AM PDT up 0 recs

career avg of 12.6 and 8 per 36 minutes

by Nellieball on Jul 9, 2008 12:32 AM PDT up 0 recs

For 4 mil

Thats a bargain.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 12:34 AM PDT up 0 recs

Rebounding #s are actually not that great

Career 8.0 reb/36 — solid but unspectacular. Slightly better than Al Harrington (7.1) but nowhere near as good as Biedrins (11.7).

Otherwise, though, his #s are pretty good. Nice block totals (2.6/36 career), A:TO (nearly 2:1 last season), FG% (50 career), etc. He’s always a total pest, too: type of guy that’s annoying as hell if he’s on the other team, but endearing if he’s your guy.

Au revoir Mickael! Bienvenue, Rony!

Sign ^^^^ !!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 9, 2008 4:34 AM PDT up 0 recs

Somewhat below average player last year, but not everyone can be above average. If the MLE is the average salary, he’s a below average salary for a somewhat below average player. Solid but unspectacular.

by jae on Jul 9, 2008 9:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

he's an intangibles guy

like barnes was 2 years ago. and like MP2 was (in spite of all the hatin’ going on around here). we’re gonna need intangible hustlers and role players. so i’m ok with it. if only he had a better midrange game…

by b.radley on Jul 9, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up 0 recs