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SportsCenter reports that Warriors will deal with Memphis

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For a PG. We may trade future pick(s) for one. Here are the candidates:

 

Mike Conley Jr.

Javaris Crittenton

Kyle Lowry

 

 

OJ Mayo (Restricted Right Now?)

 

 

All 4 of them are still very young and their PG skill sets way  outmatch those of Monta and Watsons. More so then any Free Agent that is attainable right now. I would want either Javaris or MC Jr., but would be happy with either. OJ Mayo is pretty much untouchable unless we S/T Monta (which I wouldn't mind).

If we get a PG I would say this off-season was not as bad as it should've been.

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Sounds too good to be true.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 10:54 PM PDT   0 recs

+1

just some picks for one of those three. that would be really fine with me. especially if we get conley.

by GSwarrior on Jul 9, 2008 10:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It was on the television broadcast several hours ago. No link available. It was Bucher who mentioned it.

by ejdacanay on Jul 9, 2008 11:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sounds good

Bucher is really tight with the organization, because he used to be the beat writer. The question really is which one do we get?

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We definitely need a backup point.

If this the rumor’s true, the only realistic possibilities would be Crittenton or Lowry. I’d rather have Lowry, who averaged about 9.5 points, 3.5 assists, 3 rebounds, and 1 steal in only 25 minutes a game (14ppg the last 5 games of the season). His PER was also the highest of the 3 (Lowry = 14.32, Conley = 12.65, Crittenton = 11.04)

I really wish the W’s would go after a more talented backup 1 than Crittenton or Lowry, but I guess it would be hard to trade Al for guys like Felton or Hinrich. If the rumor’s true, I hope the Warriors get Lowry.

by The Daydreamer on Jul 10, 2008 2:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Bucher’s comment was basically “don’t be surprised if the Warriors trade a draft pick to Memphis for one of their point guards”.

by Eggman on Jul 10, 2008 9:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 11:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude... your so Gangsta' adding MF...

...at least tell us why choose those three than droppin names… excuse me… YA’ DIGG!

by Tony.psd on Jul 10, 2008 8:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL TELL 'EM TONY! LOL WOOOOOOWOOOOO

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm...

I’d like to see some confirmation before I get excited but I think that this would be a great move if it’s true.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 11:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Pree?

Any news coming your way?

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 11:02 PM PDT   0 recs

when did you hear this?

i just turned on sports center

i would love conley…

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:07 PM PDT   0 recs

This would be a nice move for you guys

If I had to guess it would be Crittenton just because he has the most size (6’5”) to pair up with the undersized Ellis.

A Time For Heroes,
It's not right for young lungs to be coughing up blood
And it's all
It's all in my hands
And its all up the walls
Well the stale chips were up and the hopes stakes were down
Until Kp came into Town!
'Sing it Petey!

by Dheepan on Jul 9, 2008 11:09 PM PDT   0 recs

Also

He is probably the most available, especially if all we are giving up is a future pick.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 9, 2008 11:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OJ Mayo

Let’s offer up a future 1st rounder and Al for OJ Mayo!

Lowry is a modern day Mateen Cleaves. Scratch him off the Dubs wish list.

by GoldenStateDubtronic on Jul 9, 2008 11:09 PM PDT   0 recs

I’m afraid we’re going to cough up Monta for Mephis to even consider it.

by ejdacanay on Jul 9, 2008 11:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

dont be surprised if Antoine Walker and his 3/9 mil contract are part of any deal. it would most likely him and a what ever pg we wanted except oj

by Rach on Jul 9, 2008 11:12 PM PDT   0 recs

If we land Conley, then it is worth it.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't mind bringing in Walker

It’s only one year at $9 mil… since next season would be a team option (which we would likely decline) He was a great passing PF who could conceivably initiate the offense for the 2nd unit. If you really think about it… his game is built for Nellie ball… and like Joe Star said… If we get any PG back w/o having to sacrifice anything more than Al Harrington or a pick… I’m all for it.

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 10, 2008 8:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

good to know about walker

then the more realistic centerpeice to a possible would be jaric and ??? player to be named. walker would basicaly be an even swap no benefit for them.

by Rach on Jul 10, 2008 8:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

While he might be able to get back to “not a total and complete liability” Walker has been, for many years, a total and complete liability. Every minute he spends on a court detracts from his team’s ability to win. His passing has never made up for his errant shooting, pedestrian rebounding and poor decision making. He’s almost as likely to turn it over as he is to get an assist, and his 41.4 % shooting is poor for a point guard. For a forward, it’s six levels of hell below “abysmal.” His game is built for college scouts to marvel at ‘ability’ with no regard for results.

He’s nothing more than contract fodder. If we traded for him, I’d hope against all that he’d be made inactive for the duration of the contract so he cannot drag down squads by accidentally stumbling onto the court when the team was left with only 4 healthy bodies.

by jae on Jul 10, 2008 8:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree

any deal that would need to include walker or jaric i wouldnt do. we just wouldnt get enough back in return other than saying we traded al or we got a pg. i would rather shop him some where else or just keep him

by Rach on Jul 10, 2008 9:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Any trade where you got rid of Benoit was a good trade. Walker is the new Benoit Benjamin.

by jae on Jul 10, 2008 9:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I just hope it is not Kyle Lowry

The other two I would be perfectly fine with, but Lowry makes no sense, you see how small he is?

by ineemoney21 on Jul 9, 2008 11:12 PM PDT   0 recs

Conley was their number three pick overall. Unless we’re giving up something really, really good (like we’ve worked out a Biedrins sign and trade) I don’t think he’s coming. He had a respectable rookie year when he was healthy, respectable enough that I don’t think that Memphis is interested in giving up on him. That said, his year wasn’t really any better than Lowry’s. Conley has an inch on Lowry perhaps, but Lowry somehow seems to find more rebounds and plays bigger. Conley’s the better outside shooter, Lowry’s better on the drive. Yeah, he’s small. So is Conley. Crittenton would be a perfect fit, if we’re modeling jerseys. The ability to play the game, to pass the ball, to score efficiently, to grab boards? That he’s yet to demonstrate.

by jae on Jul 10, 2008 12:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why so down on Lowry?

Look, I understand the intrigue with Crittenton. 6’6”, PG skills, upside, etc.

But Kyle Lowry can play! One of the reasons BD and Monta could play together was Boom’s ability to defend bigger players, especially on the block. He was an absolute bulldog and I see similar qualities in Lowry.

Plus, of the Conley/Crit/Lowry group, KL would probably be the cheapest to obtain. I think he makes the most sense.

You may run like Hayes. but you hit like sh**!

by Orbit1099 on Jul 10, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lowry

is on paper 6’0 but in reality I’ve heard that he’s actually even smaller than that… so comparing him to Baron… ehhh I don’t really think he quite matches up since Baron is a solid 6’2 – ‘3 player with a heavy build plus I’ve seen Lowry flop waaay too manytimes man… Not a good sign for being solid.

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 11:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lowry

He’s a feisty little guy ala Nate Rob. I don’t think he’d be a good fit with Monta though not enough size

It's almost like the Warriors have 6 guys out there... they always have a guy open! - Jon Barry commentating game 3 last year

by gsw4life on Jul 10, 2008 1:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 1:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Playing along side Monta

I’d hope to be the exception rather than the rule. 5-10 minutes a game?

You may run like Hayes. but you hit like sh**!

by Orbit1099 on Jul 10, 2008 4:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

what about KWAME BROWN?

hes only 25 and i think the warriors can make him happen!!! harry + bellinelli for conley and kbrown!!

WE BELIEVE KWAME CAN PLAY!!!

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:13 PM PDT   0 recs

FA

The W’s have Turiaf, Biedrens, Wright, and Hendrix who are all better than Brown.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i pray

the lakers match turiaf

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Why?

So we can blow the bank on Kwame Brown? Get outta here.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

what about...

signing dooling or jason williams?

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If we get Conley or Crittenton, then we don’t have to need them.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Crittenton hasn’t shown he can produce in the NBA at all.

by jae on Jul 10, 2008 12:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So

You’d rather pay white chocolate to come here.

by joestar on Jul 10, 2008 1:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Strawman

Well that’s a complete and total strawman. Where the hell did you get that notion that I’ve said ANYTHING about Williams? Do you believe that what you posted actually followed logically (in which case, you’re incorrect, but thanks for trying) or were you just trying to be cute?

Crittenton’s name gets bounced around, I suspect because someone got the notion that we need a tall guard to pair with Monta. Unfortunately, most of the thought process doesn’t get that much deeper, as what we need is a tall guard who can play the game, something Crittenton hasn’t shown. He came out too early, had turnover problems in college that appear to be true in the pros, had shot selection issues in college by trying to force issues that haven’t solved themselves in the pros. I don’t think he is close to ready to help a team and don’t really see much hope that this will ever change. I’d rather have a short guy who can play than someone whose big selling point is his size. That gets you lousy players who don’t fit in airline seats.

by jae on Jul 10, 2008 1:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL...Strawman

Anytime mention of logical fallacies enter a debate I am attentive.

by Hoof on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

if we could somehow convince foyle to play the point, his size would be a great compliment to monta, point guard skills notwithstanding.

by cap'n hack on Jul 10, 2008 2:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1 on Foyle...

Just imagine him catching a pass… and throwing a good one to another player! It would be a site to see!

by Mr. Monday Night on Jul 10, 2008 8:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Were

You even paying attention to the posts before. I was referencing the other possible scenarios that were being brought up. I’d take an unproven crit for cheap than pay J-Will anyday.

Strawman your ass, and stop trying to act superior to everyone else with your essays for posts.

by joestar on Jul 10, 2008 10:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If you want to bash J-Will

Then respond to the posts about J-Will. And don’t get your panties in a bunch. It’s the internet and text based communication. Sarcasm isn’t apparent, intent is barely apparent.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jul 10, 2008 1:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats my point.

The post was within the context of the discussion. I assumed jae read the posts I replied to and would respond accordingly. Instead he bashes me and calls me cute? Also, you should get off your high horse. If anything the written word is one of the strongest mediums, and I wasn’t trying to be sarcastic. Go reread the whole damn discussion before stepping into this like you know whats going on. .

by joestar on Jul 10, 2008 3:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Calm down.

Clearly it was a misunderstanding. Stop trying to call everyone superior. You wrote:

You’d rather pay white chocolate to come here.

No question mark. You were jumping to a conclusion about what JAE thought, and making an assumption. You may not have intended to do that but that is how it reads. He asked you if you believed what you posted in response to his comment followed logically or if you were trying to be cute. He didn’t just call you cute.

You could have just said, no I meant it as a question to you and forgot to use a question mark. Instead you took it personally and got personal in your response.

Chill out we are all just trying to talk basketball here.

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jul 10, 2008 3:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You make sense.

After reading your post I’m a lot calmer now. Maybe its because you wrote in a way that made us more like peers, instead of lecturing me.

by joestar on Jul 10, 2008 4:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

white chocolate to come here?

Yeah, Makes a lot of sense if the price is right. We get ring experience, entertainment,a big upgrade in team cool, and someone to show Montay how to play point?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2008 9:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

AND WE SHOULD SIGN

SEBASTIAN TELFAIR…

hes another underachieving high schooler, paired with ellis jackson harrington beans and k-brown, we’ll be sending the message

F* COLLEGE!!!

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:17 PM PDT   0 recs

OJ Mayo is pretty much untouchable unless we S/T Monta

Can Mayo defend 2 guards? oh wait, if we trade Montay we won’t have to worry about that. Can Mayo handle or is he another point/ 2 combo? Dint pay much attention to him in the draft cause I knew we couldn’t get him with our spot. Bottom line would OJ and Magette be better than Montay and Magette? If not why take a chance? Montay is a proven 2 guard so unless we get a proven point guard in trade we might as well keep the little fellow?

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 9, 2008 11:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Mayo hasn't played one game yet.

It’s ludicrous to think that we should trade Monta for Mayo just because some fan thinks he’s better.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

1. Can Mayo defend 2 guards? oh wait, if we trade Montay we won’t have to worry about that

LOL yea Montas D is bad. OJ is a great defender he can play man and zone. He excels greatly at perimeter defense. An example was when he locked down Pargo vs Gonzaga.

2. Can Mayo handle or is he another point/ 2 combo?

Yes. Coming into college he was projected to be a PG/SG. He excels more at the SG position, but there is no doubt in my mind that if he plays PG full time he will be nothing short of outstanding. He would be a mix of Ben Gordon and Derron Williams.

3. Bottom line would OJ and Magette be better than Montay and Magette?

Without a doubt. Monta’s PG skills are no where near OJ’s. And OJ plays D and can play both tempos.

by ejdacanay on Jul 9, 2008 11:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hahaha

Lock down on Pargo….soooooo, thats pretty much like guarding baron/deron williams/nash/billups/chris paul/other nba point guards on a night to night basis, right?

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 9, 2008 11:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i don’t see whats funny honestly.

by ejdacanay on Jul 10, 2008 12:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

OJ Mayo has not played a game in the NBA. He may be a great defender, one does not know. But to say that a lockdown defensive effort against Jeremy Pargo (12 point, 6 assist, 25% 3 point shooting, in the WCC of all leagues) shows his candidacy to “excel greatly” at perimeter D in the NBA, well that just is kinda funny to me.

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 10, 2008 12:20 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What I meant was, an example of good D on top of my head was that game. Your clearly looking up stats and I seriously doubt you watched that game, but Pargo was clearly frustrated with OJ being in his face the whole game. OJ is a great defender and defensive skill is easier to transfer to the NBA then most other skills. You laugh like that while clearly knowing that our team cant play D to save a life.

by ejdacanay on Jul 10, 2008 12:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoa dude

Im not saying hes not a good defender, just thought your reference to Pargo was funny. Hes such a mediocre player it just didn’t make much sense to use that as an example.
And whos to say I didn’t know Pargos stats of the top of my head….haha just kidding buddy

Playoffs!!??

by PAWarrior on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

wouldn't

Janeero Pargo be even tougher to guard than Whatever Pargo in college? Let’s see how Mayo does against Janeero first before judging whether he can play d or not.

That’s like saying Alex Smith torched “insert top NCAA football program” so he can undoubtedly be a supurb QB for the niners.

by misterjennings on Jul 10, 2008 10:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

well...

i said that about j-rich, but i realized how much monta meant to me

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

backup?

there’s no way we could trade for a starting point guard and run a lineup of

pg
ellis
jackson
maggette
biedrins

we’d be out rebounded by 20 and get outscored in the paint by 30 every night

by AJC3317 on Jul 9, 2008 11:22 PM PDT   0 recs

how much bigger does

harrington play than maggette?

standing in the corner shooting threes isn’t exactly bruising

by monta ellis on Jul 9, 2008 11:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

here’s no way we could trade for a starting point guard and run a lineup of (1player1,2,3,4,5)

The premise was trade Montay for Mayo so the starting line up would be Mayo, Jax, Maggette, Some big guy, some bigger guy.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 9, 2008 11:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Who needs orthodox.

This is Nellie we’re talking about. And Mayo hasn’t done anything yet. Why trade our best player for Mayo just so we can pretend we’re orthodox.

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is Nellie we’re talking about.

“Why trade our best player for Mayo just so we can pretend we’re orthodox.”
We’ve been thru this whole scenario years ago. After Nellie leaves we’re stuck with the ruins of our team. A non-nellie lineup will leave us with a chance to win after he leaves.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2008 12:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Then...

We can deal with that after he leaves. You think trading away our best player will make us any better in the post-Nelson era? If we didn’t have Monta, then losing Baron would have been even more devastating. However, it does seem that we maybe able to use his salary to get three pretty good players.

by joestar on Jul 10, 2008 12:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Stop crying about it alright?!?! GO MULLIN.

by jeppalepala on Jul 10, 2008 11:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

but if we brought back matt barnes somebody would be getting flagrantly fouled. so it wouldnt be easy points

by Rach on Jul 9, 2008 11:30 PM PDT   0 recs

Lol

Nice sarcasm!!!

by joestar on Jul 9, 2008 11:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

somebody has to be the enforcer!

by brettt on Jul 10, 2008 12:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Obviously

You didn’t get he sarcasm. He said Barnes flagrantly fouled a person to prevent easy points, but that gets you FT’s and possession.

by joestar on Jul 10, 2008 12:35 AM PDT