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Player Recaps and Predictions: Andris Biedrins

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Before we roll into the upcoming season, let's take a look back at this current roster with a recap of their previous season (except for the rookies) and a prediction of what's coming up. We'll do this alphabetically starting with Azubuike and ending with Wright.

The new $54 million (possibly $62 million) man is up.

Hit the jump for the recap and prediction. Leave your thoughts, grades, and predictions in the comments.

 

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2007-2008 Season Recap
Grade: B+
This past year, we really saw how important Biedrins was to the team. He was the only big man who could provide some sort of a presence in the paint. Even though he's not a shot blocker and doesn't scare anyone in the lane, he still manages to make an impact by using his feet to out-quick rather than out-muscle other big men to collect rebounds. He averaged 9.8 boards per game in just 27 minutes.

Offensively, he has an excellent understanding of space to go with hands that seem to catch everything. When guards drive, he's rarely in the way as many big men seem to be. He's always moving to get into a spot that will either allow the guard to dump the ball off to him or he's in position for an offensive rebound. His ridiculous field goal percentage is evidence of this. He gets in a good position to receive the ball from the guards for easy buckets and is able to use his soft hands to lay the ball up nice and easy. He's been working hard on his free throws. He's gone from sub-50% from the line to 62%. I'm willing to bet this is the last year his free throw percentage is lower than his shooting percentage.

For whatever reason, Nellie doesn't play him more than 27 minutes. I'm inclined to think it's because he can't create his own shot nor be relied upon to be a consistent offensive weapon. Since Nellie likes 5 guys on the floor who can score, it's a testament to how good Biedrins' play is. But it also means he needs to keep working.

 

2008-2009 Prediction
Last year, Biedrins shot a very high percentage thanks to BD, Jax and Monta getting him a ton of easy buckets in an assortment of ways. On their drives he just knows where to move to for them to dish him the ball. He's got soft hands so he catches most anything thrown his way. He uses the pick and roll well as a secondary scoring option. But with BD gone and Monta out for the first couple months, is Jax's playmaking going to be enough to keep his points in double digits and the field goal percentage high? That's my biggest question for Biedrins this year, can he continue his scoring without Baron setting him up? I don't see anyone else outside of those 3 being able to consistently get him the ball where he can just go up and score. Neither Kaz nor Maggette are playmakers while CJ Watson and Marcus Williams are too unproven to be counted upon. He'll have to either collect more offensive putbacks, develop a post game, or he'll lose time to Ronny Turiaf.

Which now begs the question, is his post-up game improving? If he's not going to be able to get fed the ball off of drives, is he capable of creating offense for himself. In the few years he's been in the league, rarely do you see Andris in a traditional post up position with his back to the basket. Usually he's finding an open space or creating space for the driving ballhandler to find him for an easy bucket. I'm sure he'll stay within his limitations, so he'll need to develop a post game where he catches the ball and makes one quick move. If the shot isn't there he's a good enough passer to find an open man. He can't be holding the ball too long because he can't dribble in traffic and you won't see him face up and shoot the ball. As long as he stays within himself, I think you'll see a lower field goal percentage and a post game that improves as the season goes along.

But even if his post up game improved, is Nellie going to use him? Only Nellie can answer that, but I can speculate. If Biedrins improves his post game I really don't think his minutes will ever break the 30 minute average. One of the reasons they brought Turiaf in was to back up Biedrins and play enough minutes so that Biedrins isn't relied upon for 30+ minutes. He's just not ready yet.

Defensively, I'd like to see him either get stronger and not get pushed around as much or change and possibly block more shots. Opposing guards and forwards don't have to worry about getting their shots blocked because nobody on the Warriors is a shot blocker. Biedrins will be the last line of defense so I'd love to see him change more shots - not necessarily block them.

He's a hard worker so I expect him to keep improving. I'm just not sure if his ceiling is all that high.

 

Poll
If you had to pick the most important player on the Warriors for this year and beyond, where does Andris rank?
1st - Most Important
142 votes
2nd
584 votes
3rd
480 votes
4th
84 votes
5th
26 votes
6th or lower
10 votes

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good job Fantasy

i agree B+ and i think right now he is 2nd most important warrior

after 6 EC’09 qualification games what i saw i can say he is definitely stronger then he was last season even if he isn’t bulked up observable
sure -Warriors will not play with Estonia Macedonia or Whoeveronia this season but games like this help a lot boost player’s confidence -it was hard tournament for Biedrins because he was double and triple teamed almost all the time he was on offensive end -sometimes refs allowed even too much dirty game against him (holding and unsportsmenslike defense) but he proved that he was and is best center of qualification round and one of top 3 players at all

in 6 games
33,5 minutes 22,3pts 65,3FG% 64,3 FT% 13,7reb 1,7B

even if in this tournament his FT % wasn’t better then FG% it was better then in regular season and i predict that in 08/09 his % will be about 67-70%

probably someone thinks that this wasn’t serious competition
here are some more NBA players numbers who participate this tournament
Luol Deng -36min 24,2 pts 5,8reb 1,6B 4,2TO 3,8as
Tony Parker -32min 26,8pts 4,2reb 1,8st 2,2TO
Ronny Turiaf 23,8min 9,8pts 5,5reb 1,7B
for comparison our loved Kosta Perovich 14,3min 7,1pts 4,4reb 0,4B

Biedrins was
3rd best scorer
1st rebounder
1st in FG%
second (with Turiaf) in blocks

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Estonia vs Latvia
Portugal vs Latvia

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by Lat We N Trash on Sep 22, 2008 2:48 AM PDT   0 recs

Andris...

will be ok this year. He’s improved every season and I’m hoping this year won’t be any different. We’ve never relied on his post game in the past and I don’t think Nellie is gonna change that anytime soon. Baron had the best post game last season so that shows you where Biedrins post game is at. We all know he’s not your typical big center but, then again, this isn’t your typical NBA offense.

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by JonDoe on Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM PDT   0 recs

Defense

I think Biedrin’s defense is the biggest reason why he doesn’t play more than 30 minutes. If he played great post defense and interior D, I think Nellie would happily give him 35-38 minutes.

by NBR on Sep 22, 2008 10:11 AM PDT   0 recs

Given that there’s not a better option defending the interior, I find this explanation lacking. The Warriors were a better defensive team when he was on the court, objectively based on their scoring margin, on their opponent’s FG%, on their rebounding rates. This could simply mean that his backups were horrible and the team did better with him because of this, but if such were the case, it doesn’t explain Nellie holding him out because of his defense.

by jae on Sep 22, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nellie went with a superior offensive player (scorer) because a defensive option wasn’t available.

by NBR on Sep 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

correction – I think Nellie went with a superior offensive player because a better defensive option wasn’t available. Say someone who can shoot and spread the floor, things Biedrins doesn’t do well offensively.

by NBR on Sep 22, 2008 12:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course, the offense was better with Biedrins in as well. I’m not sure what it was that kept him off the floor as much as he was. In terms of actual results, they played better with him.

by jae on Sep 22, 2008 1:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m not sure what it was that kept him off the floor as much as he was.

 Well if they played better with him then why would they keep him out?
 Foul trouble? Conditioning? Limited range of skills so the other team figures him out and his effectiveness drops off rapidly? He dint think he was being paid enough to play a whole game ? :>)

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 22, 2008 10:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

absolutely

I agree, I think nellie is a great coach but goes overboard with his philosophy sometimes. he’s thinking so much about perimeter shooting that he forsakes the efficiency biedrins has. I think this hurt wright as well.

by Bigben777 on Sep 23, 2008 10:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I voted #1

Well I aint gonna lie I think hes #1. When he does his job in the paint we win games. (block attempts / FG% /…) and usually when he has a good game we win that game. Plain and simple unless the team is playin one of their 125+ point games and just scores way more than the opposing. I seriously think he should be getting at least 35mpg for how efficient he plays.

by bojangles408 on Sep 22, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

B

I think AB will improve this year, but he must gain weight if he wants to become a back to the basket player, something he needs to become. With B-Diddums around, it was okay for him to make good cuts to the basket, average 10 points, and keep a high FG percentage. But now he must be able to create for himself and raise his PPG, even at the expense of his FG percentage. That being said, he has a high basketball IQ and huge potential; just look how far he has come in the last couple of years.

by marzorg on Sep 22, 2008 3:14 PM PDT   0 recs

#1

I picked #1 for the simple reason that if he develops into the type of active and efficient center that he has shown flashes of being, while continuing to refine his offensive game, he could be the kind of player that we have been waiting for all these years. Monta is more exciting, more skilled, more of a lot of things, but I think that having a top notch big man really makes the difference between being contender or just being a fun team to watch.

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by olympicmike on Sep 22, 2008 3:30 PM PDT   0 recs

i'm with mr. bo jangles

last year, watching the games, i would only shout at the television:

“here! THIS is the most important player for this team!!”

when andris was on the floor. he plays a team game, among all the opportunists and assassins we got. his is the only consistently team game. without him the wheels fall off. there’s like this corridor or something down the middle of the court, and although he don’t block it like a brick wall, he’s swooping in and out of there like a giant latvian bat, swatting fools down and grabbing boards and keeping something other than the 3 pt. line alive.

by Ormolov on Sep 22, 2008 9:11 PM PDT   0 recs

a giant latvian bat,

  Stay away, those things can have rabies.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 23, 2008 2:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hahaha

giant latvian bat, wtf

by Bigben777 on Sep 23, 2008 10:29 AM PDT   0 recs

the most important player is harrington

if we dont have someone delivering below expectations to hate on, we’ll focus on Biedrins’ lack of offense too much

by warriorsvictim on Sep 23, 2008 4:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Ellis is still the future of the franchise and Biedrins is second. I love the way he finished last season. If that is any indication of what’s to come, look for a 15ppg 12 rpg season from the Latvian.

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by trecole696 on Sep 23, 2008 5:13 PM PDT   0 recs

Biendris es numero uno en mi libro

he’s the important player to the warriors because
1) he is our best center – without him nobody can guard Bynums and Kamans of the pacific division
2) he is the best rebounder/ shot blocker the warriors have – especially with baron davis gone, he’ll have to get more rebounds
3) and lastly he is best option in the low post/ pick and rolls – harrington can’t do it, he’s a three point specialist
—→ but this all just falls apart if Turiaf can do everything Biendris can do, then Biendris is not all that important, and Steven Jackson is our most important player because he is the glue of the team- (compare GS’s record with Jackson and without).

by warriorfan158 on Sep 24, 2008 9:48 PM PDT   0 recs

Turiaf

can’t do everything Biedrins can
because of his hands -Biedrins just got extremely long and good hands -that’s why he can fight for rebounds even being outside 3 seconds zone and tip in so many missed shots
Turiaf really is great with energy what he brings on the court but he can’t rebound the way Biedrins can

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by Lat We N Trash on Sep 26, 2008 12:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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