We Believe is Dead + Post #1065

by Atma Brother ONE on Sep 28, 2008 5:46 PM PDT in History

Nas boldly proclaimed "Hip Hop is Dead" back in 2k6.

In September 2k8 it's time for us all to recognize that We Believe is Dead.

If We Believe should die before I wake
I'll throw on a Warriors Foam Finger and wave it all day
Roll to every game at the Roaracle and don't forget it all started with my boy the Fuzzy DJ
Roll to every game at the Roaracle and don't forget it all started with my boy the Fuzzy DJ
We Believe just died this mornin'
We Believe just died this mornin'
We Believe just died this mornin'
And she's dead, she dead

We Believe 2.0 coming to a Roaracle near you in 2020!

We Believe was waiting 13 years for something worth believing in.

We Believe was the oddly small, but extraordinarily fast starting 5 of Stephen, Monta, Baron, J-Rich and Al making an improbable 15-5 run to make it all rest on one historic night.

We Believe was making it to 16-5 and finally, finally ending the 12 year playoff drought.

We Believe was everyone thinking we were just a bunch of thugs from Oakland when we were just all about being a T-E-A-M.

We Believe was Matt "who?" Barnes throwing it down on Dirk.

We Believe was Mickael Pietrus leading the charge by holding up a We Believe tee to further ignite the spirit of the Roaracle.

We Believe was Jessica Alba of "Ladies Luv of Us" fame flying up from ShallowCal- oops, I mean SoCal- showing the world just how fine it can be to roll with us.

We Believe was Stephen Jackson "not giving a --" about what they think and just doing his thang.

We Believe was Carlos Santana just being the badass that he is.

We Believe was Snoop showing some luv to his peoples in the Yay part of the Wessyde.

We Believe was the "We Want Foyle!" chants- the Roaracle faithful's way of letting opposing teams know that they just got served in the worst way in the East Bay.

We Believe was Thunder and friends getting this party started off right. (OKC got nothing on us.)

We Believe was Nellie's "team of schmoes" driving his former team and its Charmin soft fanbase absolutely nuts in the 1st round of the 2007 NBA Playoffs.

We Believe was J-Rich finishing them off with an exclamation point.

We Believe was Boom Dizzle putting it in that flat top.

We Believe was making a run at Kevin Garnett which would have added the final piece to the Hyphy-est Show on Hardwood.

We Believe was just Unbelievable, Unforgettable, and Unstoppable Baby!

But...

We Believe is Dead.

We Believe is not stabbing the heart, soul, and class of Warriors Nation in the back.

We Believe is not playing hardball with the closest thing this team has seen to an All-Star or big name since a man by the name of Latrell Fontaine Sprewell.

We Believe is not rebuilding x13 just to increase profit margins after deceiving season ticket holders two years in a row, making them pay increased prices for a product that they didn't get.

We Believe is not letting a 10 million dollar trade exception expire to save some dough. (Seriously Cohan and Rowell- have some pride in your product.)

We Believe is not running everyone off the ship to invest in two youngsters who were just complimentary pieces of We Believe. (Is there any other team in the league stupid enough to believe that investing the future of the franchise in two undersized players with gaping holes in their game and who can't D up their opposing matchup 1-on-1, at the expense of trying to foster a winning culture and playoff mentality NOW after a decade-plus of suck, makes any sense whatsoever?)

We Believe is not investing 66 million in a liar who cost his team double digit wins and made many season ticket holders regret forking out their hard earned dollars to watch one of the worst teams in the Western Conference stink up the joint nightly. (By the way does anyone really believe that silly "low-speed" line from his camp?)

We Believe is not these bandwagon fans who vehemently try to convince decade-plus long members of Warriors Nation to be patient and that rebuilding is fun when you've been there/ done that x12.

We Believe is not getting openly dissed by both Elton Brand and Gilbert Arenas on the free agent market.

We Believe is not creating a toxic environment in which everyone is playing for a contract, not for W's.

We Believe will never be anything remotely associated with an owner who doesn't have a clue. (Seriously is this guy a Lakers fan or something? That would really explain the past 15 years.)

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But I digress. It has been an unBELIEVABLE ride. Back when we started this goofy little venture in May of 2005 on our little Blogspot show:

it wasn't cool to be a Warriors fan
basketball/ sports blogs were still in their infancy
there was next to no mainstream coverage of this playoff-starved hoops club and high IQ fanbase
we were pretty much the only folks consistently and passionately blogging about this team
we were hilarious

Fast forward to September 2008 and it's a completely different story:

the band regularly travels on the Warriors' wagon
everyone and their mama has a basketball/ sports blog
the Warriors now get more than their fair share of mainstream coverage, although after this year's upcoming <30 win season it's going to be back to the "good ol' days"
everyone and their mamma has a Warriors blog- some unstoppable and some well... They Got Suck.
well, we're still hilarious

Souls of Mischief- "93 'Til Infinity'

This is how we chill from 2007 till 2020.

I must say, these nearly 3.5 years have been Unstoppable Baby! It has been an amazing experience that has surpassed all of my goals. The best part about it has been all the golden people I've met and had a chance to work with on this project. I have learned a ton, while having a ton of fun. There's nothing more I can really ask for, which means it's time for me to move on. My 1065th post on GSoM is my last.

We Believe it's time.

I will be moving to the equivalent of a "GSoM desk job" and helping my boys out with the behind the scenes action. We're all excited about transforming GSoM into a space that benefits the community at large. And we're all extremely excited about having your help in making that happen.

I thank you all for supporting this online community and everything it stands for. You're in good hands with my boys. Keep it in a golden state of mind.

1 Dub. 1 Luv.

PEACE,

Atma Brother #1

PS: See you at GSoM Night 5!

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Cool post.

But how are you gonna diss Biedrins and Monta like that?

Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement

by StSaints408 on Sep 28, 2008 6:03 PM PDT 0 recs

Best of luck Bro

You put your heart into this site, best of luck!

by GeeEssDub on Sep 28, 2008 6:04 PM PDT 0 recs

thanks for spear-heading this site through its infancy AB1

You were a HUGE player in orchestrating a great site, one that so many of us have enjoyed thoroughly and we appreciate that. Despite differences in the past I surely hope you maintain an active presence in this community.

… we believe is not dead, you may be finally announcing that you are leaving your formerly prominent role on the site (that you’d done de facto a while ago) and the dubs will never be the same as they were in that playoff run – but there will be a resurgence, there has to be, there just has to be.

You once asked me to stick around, now – back atcha.

by hardcore on Sep 28, 2008 7:55 PM PDT 0 recs

Hey Atma,

thanks for building up this great site and for the GSOM nights, I went to both last year butmoved away for college but I’ll try my hardest to get to the Indiana game. Anyway thanks again man.

On the other hand lets be real. I dropped out of college for a semester to afford my Warriors playoff tickets and that was probably some of the best moments in my life. At the same time we made the playoffs on the last day of the season and took advantage of a mentally weak team that we matched up well against while we were riding a ridiculuos hot streak. Then we faced a well rounded team and they showed the world our blarin weaknesses. Am I excited about rebildin once again, nope. Do I have grand dillusions about all of rookies becoming All stars, no, Ill believe it when I see it. But we got to build a team thats hopefully going to compete for a championship team and the We Believe squad never was. It was a great run but lets really build something special.

I would take Andris over Baron or JRich, today with out a hesitation!

Anyway Atma, thanks for the ride man, hopefully one day when the Warriors are good again you can let go of all your hatred toward the Orginization and just enjoy the team again. I didnt get to meet you last 2 times but I want to thank you in person, hopefully see you in January. Good luck with your future endevors.

63, rest in peace man

by autumnwind on Sep 28, 2008 8:00 PM PDT 0 recs

Great Post

Even if you are secretly a Knicks fan…

I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters.

by Baked Biedrins on Sep 28, 2008 8:12 PM PDT 0 recs

ummm...........

What’s the point of writing this article? You sound so self-righteous about the Warriors. Dude, it’s just a sports team. I’ve always respected you for making this site and everything, but I seriously don’t see the point of this… Bottom line is that the Warrior’s are a business that try to manipulate fans. We’ve all fallen in, and let’s just enjoy wasting time discussing random things instead of accusing people of not being fans. Everything aside, good luck in your future Atma.

by riceisnicee on Sep 28, 2008 8:28 PM PDT 0 recs

Nice Post

I will never forget the Warriors 2007 season. I went to all the playoff games except one. We had the world in our hands. “We Believe” shirts were selling for 50 bucks on ebay. Nothing like it. “We Believe” died when we lost to the Jazz in the playoffs.

If the Rockets won the first round we would have won that. If the Suns won the second round, we would have won those conference finals. We would have beat the Cavs in the finals. All the pieces did not fall int

by Captain Jack on Sep 28, 2008 8:38 PM PDT 0 recs

…into place to make it the best Warriors team ever.

by Captain Jack on Sep 28, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

We Believe...

that someone else besides Pietrus would have taken the free throws against the Jazz. Anyway, Atma is again, correct. We Believe era is over. The Mully/Nellie era is soon over. I don’t think we have the talent to compete. If Biedrins turns into Nowitski, then maybe we can believe again. But, its a pretty obvious rebuilding situation, and with the vets on this team, its going to be a long season of discontent. Unless, we see some real leadership somewhere.

"We're Menudo," -BB

by eshock on Sep 28, 2008 8:49 PM PDT 0 recs

believe what?

borderline playoff level gimmick team, i have this crazy idea of one day actually having a solid team that can actully compete at a high level.

63, rest in peace man

by autumnwind on Sep 28, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

umm ok

The Warriors really weren’t that FAR BACK from being a legit contender.

The Warriors that we saw in the 2007 Playoffs only got to play 21 games together in the regular season that year. Even in the series against the Jazz, the final tally didn’t really show how close the games really were. Stephen Jackson missed a three that could have tied the game in Game 1, Mickael Pietrus missed 2 free throws that would have put the Warriors up 7 points with 50 seconds left to go in Game 2 (also Baron made a stupid play where he dribbled out of bounce in those last seconds).

Golden State could have had the series 2-0 or 1-1 heading into Oakland for Game 3. Even in Game 4, the Warriors had a good lead but got too confident. I know what i’m saying is just a bunch of “Would’a, could’a, should’a”, but my point is that the Warriors only lost that series because of LITTLE mistakes. If they kept the team intact and added a legit rebounder in the offseason, the “We Believe” Warriors would have been scary in 07-08.

In 2007, a series against the Rockets or Suns could have easily been ours for the win as well. But instead, we got matched up against a great team in Utah and did pretty well against them. We had one of the best point guards in the game who also thrived in Nellie’s system, and a great supporting group of players. Not only did we shock the world in basketball, everyone else was shocked by the quality amount of celebrity fans that the Warriors had. Jessica Alba, Carlos Santana, Snoop Dogg, Kate Hudson, etc. I know Adam Sandler and Rob Shneider (sp?) are fans as well and it would have been a matter of time before they showed up to a game.

Out of 30 teams in the entire league, the Golden State Warriors were one of the last EIGHT teams remaining. That’s how close we were. But it’s whatever. End rant.

I’m excited for Monta, he’s a future all-star and i’m one of his biggest supporters. The future for the Warriors looks bright, but so does other teams. Greg Oden, LeBron James, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Dwyane Wade, Derrick Rose, Andrew Bynum etc. Winning a championship in the future will be MUCH more difficult than what the Warriors were faced with when they had Baron/Nellie and company. Hopefully the Warriors win a championship before the year 2012 when the world ends!!!!

0_O

by Five Ten Entertainment on Sep 28, 2008 11:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

oh yeah BTW

GREAT POST ATMA! Damn, it sucks that the “Dream” is over. Warriors fans were on top of the world during that season and we all thought that the team would get better and better.

“Wait till the 2007-2008 season we’ll be back even crazier!!!”

I remember screaming that when we got eliminated by Utah. Damn.

One thing you forgot to add to your post… you forgot to mention PAUL WONG, the originator of the We Believe movement. For anyone who forgot who Paul is, take a read in this link!

http://www.alamedamagazine.com/media/Alameda-Magazine/November-2007/People/

But man. I still remember. The Warriors sucked and had a team meeting in order to get their act together, they ended up by blowing out the Pistons in Detroit by 30+ points. The Warriors were 9 games below .500 and had the toughest remaining schedule in the league, yet they still made it to the playoffs. CRAZY moment man, that whole postseason was surreal, an adrenaline rush.

I know this is hella corny but I don’t really give a fuck. That’s what happens to die hard Warriors fans. Few NBA fans get to go through 12 straight years of frustration and then all of a sudden go into a crazy level of hype and intensity. The normal thing that could have happened was the team breaking the playoff drought only to get swept in the first round as an 8th seed; but instead, the improbable happened. It’s like our feelings as Warriors fans got injected with a steroid and caused us to go wild heading into the playoffs. It all happened so fast.

ahh i’m typing hella random shit right now. i’m not even going to re-read this post, ima just post it and laugh at it for being so homo.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Sep 28, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up 0 recs

Look man,

I was at those games and I agree it was special. Game 6 was one of the best days of my life(rank it right behind coming home from Iraq and high school graduation). That team was special. And yeah maybe we could of beaten the Rockets. Remeber that we did loose to a Lebron less Cavs that year though, while we are talking in the world of speculation.

Im just saying Chris Mullin had the difficult desecion of keeping a fun gimicky flawed team, thats peak was second round of the playoffs or try and make a team that could actually seriosly compete in the West one day. He made the harder desicion and there is no guarantee that Randolph or Ellis will become allstars or we will ever get to the WCF in the next ten years but I can guarantee that We Believe squad was bringing the good times to the bay but would never have brought a banner home.

Even though I sometimes dream of it, I shudder to think of what would of happend had we resigned Barnes and Baron, and probaly kept Beidrins(Mullin convinces Cohan to hit luxary one year while Foyles number comes off). We could guarantee that Monta and Buike would be gone, as well as Wright(saying that we kept JRich) and we would of made the tail end of the playoffs, good enough to get knocked in the first round by NO or LAL, and not been in a position to draft ARandolph.

63, rest in peace man

by autumnwind on Sep 29, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

best article ever

THANKS BRO

by gswLLBatman on Sep 28, 2008 8:55 PM PDT 0 recs

im happy ur getting off the bandwagon

wit all that negativity about the team. i became a warriors fan after the Run TMC Era and have loved the warriors every year including our huge playoff draught

the only thing that keeps me going is my hope that next year is gonna be THE year that we go all the way. I believed it 3 years ago and i believe it now. We Believe is still alive as far as I am concerned. Being “realistic” about your teams odds and believing that we’re gonna suck doesnt sound too fun to me. Good luck on your other ventures in life and being negative about the warriors while i continue to talk up my team and always believe that the best case scenario will play out during the season

Marco and B. Wright will have breakout seasons.
Marcus Williams will do so good as starting PG that people will speculate that we might try and trade or release Monta.
However, once Monta does return he will dominate his way to the MVP award. Or at least his 2nd Most Improved Player award.
SJax will continue to give us what we’ve come to love, and then some.
Biedrins will have a 20-10 season and be a defensive presence.
Maggette will average 28 pts a game
Randolph will be rookie of the year
Kelenna will be solid again
Morrow will shoot 70% from 3pt
Turiaf will sport an NBA record 52 dufferent hairstyles in one season

if i forgot anyone, you get the point..

by 3Kings650 on Sep 28, 2008 9:07 PM PDT 0 recs

fsho

Atma… good job on all the hard work you’ve done. Much appreciated.

But, come on, bro! “We Believe” ain’t dead. That’s a HELLA bandwagon thing to say. And if that’s the attitude you’re always gonna take (like you usually do), then, no offense, but I’m kinda glad you’re not gonna be showin up here just to hate. This site (and rooting for Bay Area teams in general) is most fun when people are positive about the team.

We don’t need naysayers on here. We got ESPN and Charles Barkley for that. Who cares if we’re all homers? Isn’t that why we come to this site? The naysaying doesn’t bother me so much when it comes from a member, but I expect more from the moderators.

Good luck though.

www.jettisonhigh.com

by BALLINelli on Sep 29, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up 0 recs

Lame post... you're a bandwagoner posterboy Atma

i completely agree w/ 3Kings & Ballinelli…

"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali

by Dubs Wise on Sep 29, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

There's nothing more I can really ask for, which means it's time for me to move on. My 1065th post on GSoM is my last.

    Atma Bro, You really mean you have nothing to left to say? What’s up with that? I understand getting tired of the work load but I can’t understand turning your back on your creation?
   You realize you made this a community of sorts from nothing? We are here during the off season so there’s gotta be something special about this “basketball” blog , your idea, your baby so to speak.
  I hope you are leaving us with someone in charge who understands your method of letting the discussions evolve freely? We still need the cool too, leave it bro!
I hope things go well for you in your new role and endeavors. and As a parent I can bet that your parents are very proud of you..

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 28, 2008 9:37 PM PDT 0 recs

Atma,

your done posting thats fine, but take it back to the roots bro. I know you cruise by here daily(atleast) through up a comment or 2 man. Jump in here man.

63, rest in peace man

by autumnwind on Sep 29, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up 0 recs

Much appreciated

Thank you for the kind words.

by Atma Brother ONE on Oct 5, 2008 10:08 PM PDT up 0 recs

Also

You kind of sound like a bandwagon fan after dissing the team so much at the end and quitting the site because the team isn’t going to do so well this year. (And that’s not set in stone, you never know what will happen. Maybe Marcus Williams really is Jason Kidd ver. 2.0.0. Maybe we actually end up trading Monta [Only if the aforementioned situation arrives] for a really good inside presence and we end up with the best team in the NBA.)

Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement

by StSaints408 on Sep 29, 2008 9:21 AM PDT 0 recs

I just started Bandwagoning the Niners again!

by Tony.psd on Sep 29, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up 0 recs

lol

that’s not what I mean bro. We’re dissing a bit, but we still stick with the team. He’s straight up leaving just because things aren’t looking very good fpr the Warriors right now.

Member of the "Stop calling him Beans" movement

by StSaints408 on Sep 29, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up 0 recs

thas not necessarily true

im sure hes got other shit goin on in his life…but it sounds as though he was making an excuse for leaving because HE DOESNT BELIEVE in our team this year.

obviously hes a bad fan…..and yes, I just questioned your fanhood

by 3Kings650 on Sep 29, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

We Believe...

may be done as an era, but the true die hard fans will always believe.

by MAZarate21 on Sep 29, 2008 10:49 AM PDT 0 recs

LOL... "No Retreat No Ureender" should be the new anthem!

by Tony.psd on Sep 29, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up 0 recs

If you use Nas, then I use Wu Tang.

“How can We Believe be dead if Golden State Of Mind is forever?”

I completely disagree with this statement
“We Believe is not these bandwagon fans who vehemently try to convince decade-plus long members of Warriors Nation to be patient and that rebuilding is fun when you’ve been there/ done that x12.”

that optimism=bandwagonry and that true fans are only those that have been fans for decades at a time even though most every Warriors fan on here began to watch the team when they were terrible.

Normally I would argue this but instead I just want to say thank you for starting up such a great site that allows me and others to share our passion for the Warriors. Good luck in your future endeavors, and you should appoint a replacement moderator (like jae). Peace.

by belilaugh on Sep 29, 2008 12:16 PM PDT 0 recs

Thanks

This is definitely my favorite site.

Put a little mustard on it

by The Barnes Supremacy on Sep 29, 2008 1:54 PM PDT 0 recs

My Favorite site is

“Free Ones” (non-family show! ;)

by Tony.psd on Sep 29, 2008 2:30 PM PDT up 0 recs

+1 LOL

by faust10 on Sep 29, 2008 2:43 PM PDT 0 recs

my bad

I was referring to tony.psd’s freeones comment

by faust10 on Sep 29, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

Respect

To our Boy Atma for all of the hard work he has put in to help make this site what it has become today. Sometimes being a Warrior fan can be like being in an abusive relationship in which there is a tremendous amount of love, but with the abusive party holding all of the power. Unfortunately, Cohan and Co. seem to have a firm grasp of the fact that no matter what type of product he puts out there, that we will keep coming back for more. I mirror some of Atma’s frustrations in this regard because I really don’t have much of an answer. One thing I do know is that I am one of those fans that have been looking at half -full rather than half empty for the better half of a decade. “I believe” started for me in 1988 watching the guys in blue on KICU 36 on a non-cable hook up TV in the guestroom of my old house, and has been a part of me ever since. I did not need a free yellow T-Shirt to affirm this. My favorite memory from the playoff run was that after 10+ seasons of people laughing at me when I would proclaim that “this is the year”, they finally had to look at me an realize that I was right! The aforementioned naysayers then became the bandwagoners who now seem to ask for sympathy the most………….go figure. I choose to be a die hard dubs fan and take the good with the bad, as in any relationship, for better or worse. No retreat, no surrender!, that is warrior law!!

"If they Hurry here, they can get two for one!"

by LeSJepSen on Sep 29, 2008 5:04 PM PDT 0 recs

Not everyone

Can put something together that grows and has the following of GSOM. The fact that you all were able to pull it off is a testament to your hard work and vision and your ability to stick to that vision through the thick and the thin. This site has a consistency and voice that have struck a chord with us fans. Congratulations. Nice work. Good luck.

by chacabuco on Sep 29, 2008 6:01 PM PDT 0 recs

Hip Hops still alive...

so maybe we believe has got a chance…. lol

props atma

by singha on Sep 29, 2008 6:11 PM PDT 0 recs

RIP Atma Brother #1

You will be missed.

(from BallHype)

by jgurney on Sep 29, 2008 9:24 PM PDT 0 recs

ATMA,

k, your done with running the site, just post a comment here and there. You carry respect aroud here forever. Take care of yourself man……

63, rest in peace man

by autumnwind on Sep 29, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up 0 recs

Hardball from Atma

You know, I’ll always miss Atma playing hardball on the Warriors. Whereas some guys will always say things are great and praise every move, when Atma sees something wrong, he tells you. He gets a LOT of flak, but you’ve gotta respect a man who does things like that. The era really did end with Baron leaving and Monta injury. Some of the guys are still there, but you just can’t have it without Jason Richardson, and the demi-god Adonal Foyle.

This blog was the first sports blog I ever went to, and I still try to visit every day. Atma has worked consistently to make this place fun to be at. He’s endured a lot of hard times, and had a lot of good times. Man, is it hard for me to see him go.

But I could only see this coming. Keeping up a blog is a lot of work, and he wasn’t just keeping up a blog, he was building a community. He consistently said that when this stopped being fun, he would leave. I think that time has finally come, what with the dark days of the Warriors re-emerging and lots of nasty comments.

Well, it’s been a long ride Atma. I respect what you’ve done, thank you for all the help you’ve given me over the years, and wish you luck in the future.

Tony.psd = Da Man
http://nbaokc.blogspot.com/
Check Out My New Blog! (Don't Worry, The Warriors are Still #1)

by Zorgon on Sep 30, 2008 12:26 AM PDT 0 recs

Thank You

Good luck with the OKC blog. Ya’ll better treat Thunder right!

by Atma Brother ONE on Oct 5, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

I see why

you are leaving.

It’s impossible to make a post or even comment on this site anymore without a bunch of freakin’ bitches knocking you down for anything they can. Its not like the old days where everyone just had good conversation about something that they had in common: a team they love.

RIP Atma
RIP OZ

We are the future of basketball. Dub Love.

by danielholl on Sep 30, 2008 10:17 PM PDT 0 recs