Does Cohan care about state of the Warriors?
by tig8 on Jan 1, 2009 2:05 PM PST
Email
PrintI'm trying to understand how the owner of the Warriors can let what is going on to his franchise happen. I understand it is a business for him, and a means to make money. But you would think he would like the team to be successful as it was the past few years. We finally find a player (Baron) and GM (Mullin) who make the team the talk of the NBA. The Oracle becomes the most electrifying arenas in the NBA. Why not do everything you can to keep this going as long as you can. Instead, changes are made that make no sense at all to the die-hard Warriors fans, so how can it make sense to the ones running the organization. I understand there are money matters at play, but the moves don't seem to have saved any money, and have made the team worst-off. You let your most important player and team leader go. He was as important to the Warriors, if not more, as Lebron is to the Cavs, or Wade is for the heat, or Kobe is to the Lakers. These teams would do all they could to keep these special players. We did the least we could to keep Baron. Baron led the team with his confidence that he could back-up with his play, and made everyone better.
We also seem to be forcing Mullin out of a job in which all he did was to make the Warriors relevant again and showed he really cared about the fans and the success of the team. Good luck with the Knicks Mullin. I'm sure you are going to make them the most exciting team to watch in the NBA.
We as Warrior fans need to stop attending games. Unfortunately, this is the only way to show management that we are not happy with the state of the Warriors and the direction they are taking us once again. We can still watch them on TV, and support them, but by attending the games, that give support to the moves they have made. We are a bad team now. Monta will help, but we still will be a bad team. Baron opened up a lot for Monta. I can envision Monta jacking up more 3's because of the lack of fastbreaks, and not being the player he was with Baron (Another Crawford). We are a bad team, that good teams sometime will play down to our level (Example: recent win over the Celtics). Oh well. The brief "We Believe" era was fun and one I may be telling my kids 20 years from now were the best times we had as Warriors fans, and the last time we made the playoffs.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
29 comments
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Blockquoted paragraph
The brief “We Believe” era was fun and one I may be telling my kids 20 years from now were the best times we had as Warriors fans, and the last time we made the playoffs.
i’d LOVE to be the one to tell your kids 20 years from now that you are a quitter.
ELEVATION SENSATON
by the noTORious TOR on Jan 1, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions
Cohan probably does want the team to win. People who buy professional sports franchises rarely do it because it’s their best financial move, but because it’s a big toy for the richest or rich kids. [Donald Sterling for years kept salary low while collecting his revenue share and didn’t do anything to improve the product, but he’s a rare case.]
That said, some don’t care about it being a hole to toss more money in (like Cuban and Allen) to try to get a winner, while others still want the team to pay for itself. Cohan probably fits this latter category.
It’s easy to call him “cheap.” It’s easy and it’s also an intellectually lazy charge that doesn’t really describe what’s going on. The Warriors haven’t broken the bank to keep everyone at whatever cost, but they’ve also spent a reasonable amount, usually paying people when it’s possible. Because of the cap the way it is, it’s almost never a good idea to just throw money at the problem. It usually doesn’t work and leaves you with over paid mistakes that you cannot get rid of and are trapped with for long periods of time. Keeping some financial flexibility isn’t just a good business move, but is usually a good basketball move as well.
My guess is that he doesn’t really get why the team doesn’t do well. When things do start to go right, he or his lackey Rowell decide to meddle, that they have to start making decisions. Even a few decisions counter to the plans of the basketball people screw things up pretty seriously.
The downturn is still basically two things: Baron left and Monta hasn’t played. That costs you 2 dozen wins right there.
by jae on Jan 1, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Cohan is a business man first and foremost....
This team, the players, coaches ect. are all commodities, investments and assets. And Im sure he has other business ventures on the side (like mark cuban….i despise him). Money moves business men and they will always make decisions that they THINK will benefit them financially. As long as we loyal fans keep attending games no matter how bad they play, his pockets will still be full. Think about it, if you were making all that money even though your team sucked, what would be your motivation to change anything? NOTHING I wouldn’t be surprised if cohan wasnt even a basketball fan…just some suit that doesnt know what a point guard is.
I love our team even though we suck right now, and I support them 1000% but someone needs to drop kick everyone in the front office in the throat.
Required Reading
The man who owns the Warriors- Cohan’s rocky reign An era marked by lost games, lost fans and endless litigation [SFGate] (February 10, 2002)
by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 1, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions
That guy
has re-marketed the Warriors in a way that is disingenuous to the real fans. Instead of building the fan base, Cohan has leeched of of them for years. The Bay is such a big market that he can rely on a steady flow of new fans that will have their hopes and expectations shat upon. It is a tired formula that is just making the NBA look bad.
Stern should push Cohan out any way he can.
Chris Cohan...
…is indeed a colossal scumbag.
The fact that someone greenlighted that SFGate smear piece...
reflects the growing resentment among bay area elites that Cohen needs to be sacked… I just don’t see a local news outlet risking losing their inside connections and rapport with a local franchise unless the taste of blood is in the waters… it’s clear those running Alameda County ain’t happy with him… let’s keep the pressure going and run this Cohen chump out the bay. Larry Ellison has expressed interest in owning a bay area franchise. He’d be hands down the richest owner in all of sports and has a frighteningly strong desire for winning. Wouldn’t want him as my boss, but would love to see him take ownership of my dubs.
The article...
…was written in 2002, mind you. If they were trying to force Cohan around back then, that should speak to the difficulty of ousting an owner.
The Warriors
seem very adept at filling their arena, whether they win or lose. I suspect as long as that’s true, and it will probably continue to be true no matter what we do, there will be some in the organization who won’t be as aggressive in trying to acquire great talent. I wish Mullie and Nellie were getting along better, because I think they both truly want our team to be great.
yea
do cohan and rowell even watch the games??
When they go
they get booed if they show their faces. It is pretty sad that they are still involved with the team.
savemully.com
SAVE MULLY!!
dont let NY take back Mully!
+1
I think the minority owners are our last and final hope for Mullin.
Romes Mac Mojous
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jan 2, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
why would you save mullin?
so he can hand out 5 year deals to foyle/murphleavy/fisher again? to quote from batman begins: i won’t kill you, but i dont have to save you.
"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."
Inaction can, in fact, be action...
…which is why I would argue that, if we’re accepting Batman Begins as a canonical story, then Batman is indeed a murderer, despite the convenient moral ambiguity the screenwriters try to use to let him wriggle out of it.
Anyways, despite the bad deals Mullin has given out, he did draft our two best players, he got us Baron, and he tried to resign him. Ignoring the flat out classless way they’ve handled the last year of his tenure is to ignore the very level of unprofessionalism and decay that’s run rampant throughout the entire Cohan era. Even if Chris Mullin was the worst GM in the league (and he’s not), this would not be a healthy way to run a basketball team, let alone any business. Not that it’s any surprise from this bunch.
lol
wait a minute i did NOT come here to defend David Goyer’s “writing” skillz. Let me make that clear!! ha
Yeah the defense is that he’s learned his lumps, he’s exhibiting restraint, but I don’t know how much I buy into that. Mullin was given carte blanche and he made a ton of stupid moves judged by any standard (capologist, talent evalutaor, actual in GAME evaluator). Then, I am expected to believe he suddenly took a hard line on contracts…how do we know that wasn’t cohen/rowell tightening their grip and taking power away from Mullin? I initially was against mullin being vetoed (as has been reported in the press) on the baron resigning, but the more and more I think about it the more I believe it was the right move.
I am sticking with my convinient moral ambiguity and will let Mullin go down in a flaming train crash. But isn’t Mullin immortal…?
"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."
ugh
we went over this how many times. he does not want to spend money as long that he has people in their seats. they seem like they are making moves but in all they are just spending the same amount they were before since the greatly planned We Believe era that came when people started to stop going to games to bring the people back made the tickets at higher prices. he lured us back with more expensive seats so he will make more. and since he got all those new fans in that find it cool to go to a warrior game filling them up he does not care. So if you want us to win we need to not go for a bit make him loose money than he would bring it all back.
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 2, 2009 2:34 AM PST reply actions
oh
yeah need to stop buying merchandise too because that’s how the raiders make money while having nobody watch and still suck while being the highest paying team in the league.
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 2, 2009 3:09 AM PST up reply actions
ygh we went over this how many times
Cohan HAS spent money, globs of it – from Murphy, Dunleavy, Foyle, JRich to paying Montgomery for NOT coaching while paying Nelson, to resigning Monta and Andris to long term deals, to extending Jackson, overpaying to sign Maggette, and trading a shorter expensive contract (Harrington) for an even longer expensive contract (Crawford) and finally to extending Nelson … These are not the actions of a cheap owner, they are the actions of an owner who has a FO that is making expensive mistakes …
Sheesh. Haven’t you learned by now that it’s just much easier to say that Cohan is cheap and that’s why the team sucks than to actually think about the situation?
by jae on Jan 2, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
than
why we not over the cap?
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 3, 2009 2:04 AM PST up reply actions
nvm than
So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!
by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 3, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
STOP GOING TO GAMES!!!
And Stop Buying Merchandise!! Cohan doesn’t want to win. Period. If he did, he would’ve hired more competent people to run the organization. If he wanted to win, he would’ve have never accepted 12 years of missing the playoffs, and we currently seem to be back in that vicious cycle. All he cares about is money and you just look at his damn track record and it speaks for itself. He’ s going to become, if not already, the next Donald Sterling.
And to those people who question or tell people like myself (boycotting the Warriors by not buying their product) to quit being fans seriously need to wake up. I was once like that, supporting the team while they drafted the likes of Todd Fuller and Vonteego Cummings; picking up free agents like Danny Fortson and Bimbo Coles. I’ve come to realize that owners actually do have people to answer to. It’s people like ourselves, the fans. We pay for the product. We stop paying, they don’t make money, so they’ll find someone else who can. As much as Mark Cuban is a douchebag, at least he cares about winning AND having a great time. I’d take his douchebag ass any day over Cohan.
Again to those who criticize peoples’ loyalty to the Warriors better do their damn homework; learn something about how these organizations are run, learn about the history of the team, and have higher standards for an organization. We deserve better.
by MasuWarrior on Jan 2, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I THINK
we should fire Don Nelson. Crappy coach, isn’t he?
Totally agree
Dude, you’re right on. The Cohan/Rowell/Nelson threesome is evil and nauseating. They’re digging us deeper and deeper into oblivion and salary cap hell. I wrote a pretty in depth blog article about the whole front office thing, from them seizing power from Mullin and all this other crap about a month ago.
I’m totally in agreement that Don Nelson needs to be fired immediately as well. But the thing is… he’s in bed with Cohan and Rowell. That’s why they just gave him that extension. Plus we have very few attractive contracts to offer other teams (unless we ship Wright or Randolph along with one of those bad deals (Maggette, Crawford, Jackson, etc.).
There’s very little hope right now, which is what I wrote my blog today about. It’s just like a raincloud is following us around…. almost like a cartoon.
Check out my blog at www.dantheman85x.blogspot.com
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
"UNSTOPPABLE BABY!"
Golden State Warriors rookie Marc Jackson to the Mavericks' bench, after hitting a lay-up during a 29-point loss (2000)
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
