Rumor: Warriors Pushing Corey Maggette Hard in Trade Talks [Yahoo! Sports]
"Three NBA executives say that the Golden State Warriors are pushing Corey Maggette hard in trade talks. Other players that executives say are available include Philadelphia 76ers center Sam Dalembert, Charlotte Bobcats guard Raymond Felton and forward Adam Morrison, Chicago Bulls forward Drew Gooden and guard Larry Hughes and Sacramento Kings center Brad Miller."
Looks like the Dubs are pushing Maggette out, but is any team actually interested in pulling him in right now? Maggette has 4 years left on his deal after this season (2009-2010: $8.9 million, 2010-2011: $9.6 million, $10.3 million, $10.9 million). Way to go Robert Rowell on "protecting" the Warriors' long term salary cap structure by not resigning Boom Dizzle!
I'd be all about bringing Drew Gooden back to the Bay though. This Oakland-born balla from El Cerito High would be an ideal complement for Andris Biedrins up front. He has a nice mid-range jumper, a few offensive skills, and would definitely improve the Warriors' rebounding, especially paired up with Biedrins. Gooden's actually an expiring contract at $7.1 million this season, so it'd be a great move cap-wise.
I'm probably THE harshest critic of the Jason Richardson for Brandan Wright trade (and I in turn have my harsh critics for that stance), but I still to this today contend that as great as J-Rich was he could be moved for a decent 4 like Gooden to improve that We Believe team. Trading JR for a raw, unready rookie with questionable upside, an unused $10 million dollar trade exception that this franchise was too cheap to actually use, and some propaganda about how it helped the team resign Biedrins and Moped Ellis was a joke though.
Maggette for Gooden straight up?
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Potential Gooden-Maggette Deal
I actually wouldn’t mind this one. Gooden is also an expiring contract. That swayed me. Gooden definitely brings some toughness and rebounding to the squad.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 1, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
His hair is not wolecome here.
Hasheem "The Dream" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.
by ejdacanay on Jan 2, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
as great as J-Rich was he could be moved for a decent 4 like Gooden to improve that We Believe team
He was the heart of the playoff team why move him? We coulda spent the Montay money on a power forward and still have Boom and Jason and Dre, Barnes, pietrus, Marco, Rudolf, morrow, turiaff, etc.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 1, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree
My point was that:
- I hated to see Jason Richardson go. J-Rich is one of my favorite players of all time and sadly his efforts here and overall game are incredibly under-appreciated and underrated by the Warriors fanbase and local media.
- But I’m no blind homer and I understand that the We Believe squad desperately needed a legit PF to take it to the next level. If it took trading Richardson to make that happen, then do it.
- The trade the Warriors did actually make was a joke. Trading the heart of the Dubs for several years after an injury-riddled offseason was selling low and sent a bad message.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 1, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand your frustrations. I’ve been a supporter of the trade, which you probably.
The one caveat to your second point.
1. J-Rich was never/is not a superstar. He was the best player on a bad team. He is not a player other teams break the bank for. You may get a player on Drew Gordon’s level for J-Rich, but to expect a promising big man in return is asking a lot just for J-Rich. I’m not even sure Gordon would’ve vaulted the Warriors to the next level. He wouldn’t be playing alongside Dris.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on Jan 1, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhat agreed
J-Rich was never/is not a superstar- you’re spot on there.
BUT he is a very good near All-Star player (with a phenomenal 3pt stroke) that’s fun to watch and has the respect of his teammates. He fit perfectly with Nellieball because of his shooting, rebounding, and toughness. He’s morphed into one of the league’s top 3pt shooters, a good rebounding power guard, and an average-good defender. He’s young enough where he could make an All-Star team or two by the time his career is up. It helps that he keeps his body in such great shape and is a hard worker.
I don’t buy that teams aren’t willing to break the bank for him. The Warriors, Bobcats, and Suns don’t seem to agree either.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 1, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The assessment of his talents i agree on.
But the Warriors biggest need was and still is a legit front court player. Gooden is not that player. Diaw is not that player. J-Rich is a top 10 SG for sure, but team’s can pick up a half way decent SG at a much lower cost than picking up a half way decent big man. You don’t trade legit bigmen.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on Jan 1, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True you don't trade big for small but a trade of
J-Rich, 1st Rounder (Or two), Beans, & Pietrus not of gotten us KG?
How would have we felt about that trade?
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by The Dedication on Jan 1, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Top 10 SG for sure"
I’m not so sure.
Kobe
Wade
Manu
McGrady
Iverson
Allen
Roy
Redd
Rip
Joe Johnson
KMart
Monta
Iguodala
Vince Carter
That’s 14 most people would take over JRich (the top half or so hands-down, the bottom half somewhat more debatably). I’d consider JRich in the 10-12 range at his peak, but with his slight decline in numbers this season — particularly in rebounding, normally one of his strengths — I’d put him squarely in the middle of the pack among SGs.
I could also probably come up with 8-10 PGs who are currently better than Baron Davis, but that’s a topic for another diary…
On topic: I’d gladly flip Maggs for Gooden. I’d even more gladly flip him for Sam Dalembert. Are they really on the block?
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Jan 2, 2009 4:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops, forgot the Mayo.
Is there anyone here who’d rather have JRich than Mayo?
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Jan 2, 2009 4:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hold the mayo
give me the Jrich
Till I get free
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 2, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no question about Kobe, Wade, Iverson, Roy, Joe Johnson, and Vince. KMart I could go either way, but I’d probably go with Sac’s sharpest shooter.
I’d take JRich over:
- T-Mac (Half Man Half a Season + 2nd Round Virgin, but a superior player when playing)
- Manu (I’ve always thought this guy’s game was crazy overrated)
- Ray Allen (falling fast)
- Michael Redd (a ridiculously 1 dimensional soft player)
- Rip (his teammates and the 100 screens they give him on every play make him look much better than he really is)
- Monta (surrenders career nights to opposing scrubs on the regular, unknown whether he’ll even get back to form after his injury, immature liars don’t project to be great leaders or guys the rest of the team rallies around)
- Iguodala (really like the guy’s all around game, but there’s just something missing that I can’t pinpoint)
- Kelenna Azubuike ;-)
JR’s stats are going to be down on the Suns. I’m not sure all the pieces fit, but they’re stacked.
Maggette for Dalembert is a no brainer in my book. He’s a far superior defender to Biedrins (probably a bigger hole in his game than his hideous mostly nonexistent jumpshot) and could even start over him. Biedrins’ finishes much better around the rim (better than most), and has great hands for a big man, but with Jack, Maggette, Crawford, Azubuike, Monta (coming soon), Belinelli, etc I’d opt for D at the starting 5.
by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 2, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you really...
…call a jumpshot hideous if there’s never anyone around to see it? Like the tree falling in the woods… in all truth, I don’t think I’ve ever seen Biedrins take a jumper in his entire NBA career. If it really is that awful, I think he deserves credit for having maybe the most intelligent shot selection in NBA history.
by Zack Vank on Jan 2, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it really is that awful, I think he deserves credit for having maybe the most intelligent shot selection in NBA history.
Yeah, he shows a lot of courage to get on the floor with no shooting skills, I’m surprised the kid din’t take up volleyball or ice hockey. He’s very good at what he doesn’t do though.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 2, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They might be on the block but I cant really see a case for either the sixers or bulls taking on Maggs. Maggs doesnt fit what the sixers need, he seems kinda redundant with Iggy there. Dalembert is having a down year, but all centers do playing next to Brand. Wouldnt the Bulls be far better off letting Gooden’s contract expire than to take on Maggs’ contract?
by sam23 on Jan 2, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Granted I don't...
…have any defensive metrics in front of me, but I suspect it’s a little generous to call J-Rich an average defender. He’s a hard worker, and I always give people respect for that, but his defensive instincts just aren’t there, and he can give up big plays. The biggest most recent one I’m thinking of (cause it was on the christmas national schedule) was that Spurs game in which he slid over to provide pressure on a Parker drive. The help defense was completely not needed, Parker’s defender had stayed in front and Shaq was lurking under the basket. Richardson left Mason wide open in the corner and he swished it. I’m n9ot saying that one mistake makes him a bad defender, but after seven or eight years in the league, those mental mistakes build up and become hard habits to break.
I’d also bet a thousand dollars right now that Richardson is never going to make an All-Star team, but that’s neither here nor there. It was nice to see his 360 dunk a few nights ago, but the most telling thing about the highlight was how close he came to not having the elevation. I didn’t realize it from him being gone for a year, but I think the hype is true; his legs are going fast.
by Zack Vank on Jan 1, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
+370000 til infinity with point number 1 on J-Rich. He too was one of my favorite players when Saint Jean first drafted him and even when alot of people criticized his game.
You are absolutely correct that the We Believe squad desperately needed a legit PF, but if I were a GM, J-Rich would not be traded at any cost. I think you do whatever it takes to keep the core of Boom, Jrich, Monta, & AB, while taking the risks in the draft of landing a legit PF.
Which is where our scouts need to their job on who would fit perfectly in the system. In 2006, POB didn’t work well with us and I can get over that quickly. Second round, we drafted Kosta Perovic which was my problem. Why not try to find another F that is a possible double double caliber type player?
Both Centers are not on our team anymore. We passed up Paul Milsap and Leon Powe in that year and in that 2nd round.
In 2007 we passed up on Carl Landy. From alot of people’s speculations, the J-Rich trade and drafting of Marco seemed to be the methods in acquiring KG. If I were a GM I would rather take the risks in drafting a rookie when you already know Warrior fans loved J-RICH, Baron, Monta, AB etc.
What if we kept those 4 players on the roster now and say those draft picks were busts for us. We still would have stole Ronnie Turiaf from the Lakers right?
Imagine that:
Baron
Monta
J-Rich
Paul Millsap
AB
or
Baron
Monta
J-Rich
Leon Powe
AB
or
Baron
Monta
J-Rich
Carl Landry
AB
2008-2009 Warrior Roster could have been:
Baron
Monta (without the Moped incident)
J-Rich
Turiaf
AB
I think the Warriors make their lives more complicated than it is.
Oh well. Roll with what you got now.
Go Warrior still.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jan 2, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Every year...
…there are guys like Landry who start playing like hell on wheels, usually gutsy frontcourt guys on teams with injuries. I’m not saying that those guys aren’t valuable, they’re quite essential for a championship team, but trying to draft somebody for a role player in which heart and hustle are the main requirements seems to me a much longer shot than drafting to try and get a star. For every Carl Landry, there’s a Mark Madsen out there.
by Zack Vank on Jan 2, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
But our stars at the timewere Boom and JRich, Monta on the rise, AB proving to be automatic double double…which picking up a player like Carl Landry in the second round would be worth it.
I liked alot of players from that 07 roster, but if I were a GM… the core of BOOM, JRICH, MONTA, & AB are who I would probably concentrate on keeping.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jan 2, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
* in keeping.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jan 2, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure we couldnt have afforded any of those lineups.
by sam23 on Jan 2, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's only been what, like a week or two since the j-rich trade has been brought up on GSoM
some have the D.T.’s i guess.
W’s front office singing-
“if i could turn back time,
if i could find a way,
i’d take back take back that draft day trade
and j-rich would stay.
if i could sign more stars
we’d have "We Believe” version two
then fans would love me, love me
like they used to do…"
the stop calling him "beans" movement
by pervisNeverNervous on Jan 2, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i would be all for this, i think it would be great for the team. Gooden is a legit 4, he'll get boards, put up some points on the board, i'm all for this.
GO WARRIORS, BELIEVE!
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by deto725 on Jan 1, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yessss!
ive been pushing this trade since day 1…drew would help us out so much on the boards and just inside presence in general. plus maggs would be heading back to his home town (chicago) and drew would be coming back to his hometown too (oakland). its destined to happen!
When Maggette missed those consecutive shots in a span of a humming bird’s flap,
Crawford simply looked at the bench and said, "Are you serious?"
by gorillas on Jan 1, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Dallas Mavericks have tried to acquire Maggette on several occasions, and though they admit no recent interest, he’s still a potential answer to their ongoing void at the two-guard position. Given that the Mavericks have a point guard to spare and the Warriors are actively seeking one, it’s not hard to see the two teams making a deal – bad blood notwithstanding. The Toronto Raptors are also desperately in need of a player like Maggette at the three, and the Portland Trail Blazers could use another player on the wing, as well.
From Hoopsworld
Maybe moving Maggette isn’t as limited as it seemed? Who knows really. I’d be all for trading Maggette away for anything, but i honestly believe the Warriors will only move Maggette if they can get someone of value. Just as they did with the Al Harrington trade.
I’ve never been enamored with Gooden. He’s a sub-par defender and not really that good on offense either. He’s one of those players that never puts it all together. Even I think that a Maggette-Gordon swap benefits Chicago.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on Jan 1, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Heck yes
trade Maggs for Gooden
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
by chili01 on Jan 1, 2009 8:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Gooden?
Apparently, I don’t see the “good” in Gooden that other people see on this post so far. His average right now is taking 11 shots to get 12 points a game. His FT% is pretty good for a big man and he could rebound. But, if we’re just going to lose him at the end of the year, I don’t see that much value in acquiring him in a season that’s not going anywhere.
by sharpness609 on Jan 1, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Adonal Foyle will come off the books at the end of this season = 8m
plus his 7.1m and MW 1.2m is 16.3m , that means CARLOS BOOZER CARLOS BOOZER CARLOS BOOZER
plus Gooden can help us out at rebounding WHICH we lack , why do we need scorers ? More than half of the team can score but CAN’T rebound so this will be a dream come true trade.
We Believe 2.0!
I know the Warriors are a lot better than the way they're playing right now.
They just have to get healthy and dig deep. THERE'S MORE TO THIS TEAM.
by RunNdGun on Jan 1, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But
How do we know he’s not going to re-sign and stay with the Jazz or even come here? I don’t think he would join a run-and-gun team, plus he and Deron got something working there.
I was thinking we could get a guy who could help by getting someone who could also score in the low post. A guy who would also stay with our team for more than just a rental. How about a guy who comes off the books in 2 years, so we can at least grab someone from that 2010 crazy free agent list.
by sharpness609 on Jan 1, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boozer
Has already said publicly that he will opt out and test the free agent waters. Plus with his lingering injury this year, a lot of people in Utah are apprently down on him right now, so if we have the cap space its not that implausible to think that we could sign Boozer next year with all that cap space. If the Warriors could somehow turn a bad Maggette signing into a great Boozer signing next offseason that would be a dream come true, but who are we kidding, were the Warriors. We will find away to make the Maggette situation a worse one somehow.
by pbra17 on Jan 1, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
boozer will 99% go to miami
When Maggette missed those consecutive shots in a span of a humming bird’s flap,
Crawford simply looked at the bench and said, "Are you serious?"
by gorillas on Jan 1, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We will not have the cap space. Erasing Magg’s contract does not give us the cap space to sign Boozer for more than the MLE. He will demand more than the MLE to play here.
by jae on Jan 2, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to sign Boozer for teh type of money he is going going to demand
Will definetly put us in the luxury tax threshold… Even with the moves you mentioned its not enough, if you include our 2 draft picks
by shooter1525 on Jan 1, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey atma bro 1!
Happy New Year, Atma Bro!
Looks like the Warriors are back to dysfunctional like their owner Cohan. But hey, it was a fun couple of years!
Kirk
by kirkkazas on Jan 1, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i would like that trade
but i dont think the bulls would take it, they already have deng
by gswfan1 on Jan 1, 2009 8:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
heres my proposed trade.
i don’t like Drew Gooden
by Terrorence on Jan 1, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Villanueva?
dude have you seen that guy on defense?? no way man, we need a good defender not someone who doesnt even play D..
by gswfan1 on Jan 1, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gooden is an absolutely atrocious defender
Especially when it comes to help defense. Stop by Blog-a-Bull and ask…everyone will tell you the same thing. His “defense” is ugly doesn’t even exist.
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by Illini15 on Jan 1, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve found that based on blogs and bbs ratings, roughly half the league are below average defenders.
I suspect that the popular opinion of what ‘average defense’ is either suffers from ridiculous expectations or “he’s not a good defender” is an easy charge to make at someone because it’s tough to verify empirically.
by jae on Jan 2, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Worst trade ever....
Who wants Lue? Or Elson? That’s like giving 3 things for 1.
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by Zorgon on Jan 1, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats...
…on the Thunder win last night, by the by. Except, not really congrats. Saying that helps stifle the bitter tears I wept last night, you see.
by Zack Vank on Jan 1, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't happy
I was in the arena cheering on the Warriors. I’m just as sad as you. :-(
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by Zorgon on Jan 1, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was in the arena cheering on the Warriors
Hi Z. Looks like they’ve got a pretty nice arena there? I like their music too. Must help make oklahoma tolerable!
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 2, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want Gooden to come here
I already know what’s going to happen if we trade for Gooden. Gooden’s the type of big man that Nelly would fall in love with: low percentage jumpshooter who plays no defense at all. To spite Mullin, Gooden would be re-signed here to some ridiculous contract, and Wright and Randolph will be shipped out for peanuts.
by YaHeard on Jan 1, 2009 9:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
unless he's done it already.
shave that ugly beard and we have a deal.
by jchao204 on Jan 1, 2009 9:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have to go against this and any otehr bogus trade rumor...
we are not going to get rid of Maggs this year… probably not next year either. We won’t get rid of him until he proves to be heathly and able to share.
I really don’t feel like throwings Maggs under the bus until I see the whole team together on the floor. I can see Maggs actually being good if he knows his role and passes. He draws fouls and he makes buckets. he is consistent in that sense. He has areas he needs to work on, but I think when Monta returns a lot of attention is going to shift away from Maggs and Jax and allow them to play in more of a comfort zone.
Let them all play together, then lets see what we got.
by shooter1525 on Jan 1, 2009 9:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
but hes not a 4, and i dont think he likes to play the 4, or coming off the bench, i dont think jamal wants to come off the bench either..but if it were up to me, jamal would come off the bench
by gswfan1 on Jan 1, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jamal and maggs should come off the bench.
I think if their egos will allow it, it will allow them to be more in their comfort zone, and also playing much worse competition against the 2nd string
by shooter1525 on Jan 1, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good point,
i dont knwo about both, but yea one of them should, help with one of our pattened scoreless runs with there energy and whatnot.
i think maggs would have a bigger issue with that than jamal
by gswfan1 on Jan 1, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Maggs wouldn't mind it so much
He just wants to win… if we start winning games and him and Jamal start seeing the hyped up Roaracle, i don’t think there will be any question they will buy into it. Maggs came off the bench in LAC for a while and was not a problem, actually he did quite well. Crawford did too and I see him buying into what we are selling here. On paper we can be a dangerous team, if we avoid going small ball and have everyone focus their efforts at the correct possitions.
However, here is what MUST happen… for all players on our team to be happy. CONSISTENCY… Nelson needs to stop d*cking around with people. Don’t go cray and start someone and play them 36 productive minutes and the next day DNP-CD. It makes no sense and that is why players are upset. I don’t care if you give them 25-15-or 5 minutes, you make it consistent and you might see some actual possitive vibes.
by shooter1525 on Jan 1, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yea,
but he and dunleavy feuded over that didnt they?? but i think thad be great
1.ellis
2.jamal?jack?
3.maggs?jack?
4.brandan/randolph
5.andris
by gswfan1 on Jan 1, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually that was during the season where they contended...
Brand was healthy and they weren’t all that bad. Once again Maggs was just looking for wins and he went to the bench to help his team. I don’t see why he woldn’t do it for us as well. if it makes us more competitive
by shooter1525 on Jan 1, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, he came off the bench.
but he wasn’t happy about it. it’s the reason Dunleavy and Maggette dislike each other to this day and why all the rumors of Baron for Maggette plus filler were laughed at down here in LA (Dunleavy’s the GM, if you didn’t know).
Maggette is sure to go Al Harrington on the dubs if he gets moved to the bench.
by the evil monkey on Jan 1, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if Al Harrington
is gonna go Al Harrington on Mike Dantoni
by HoLdEmUP on Jan 1, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this deal
Maggette for Gooden is a fairly solid deal. Gooden could bring some veteran stability and would also make wright and randolph tougher guys. We would not have him long term, and he is a nice trade piece. Although we could possibly get a better player for maggette we might have to settle for a guy like gooden,
by t3-glaze on Jan 1, 2009 11:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If Gooden can provide inside scoring
then I’m all for it. I mean, when Robert Swift can push Biedrins around to the point of going 6-13 from the floor, I think it’s clear that you need some muscle down low.
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by Zorgon on Jan 1, 2009 11:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
our muscle was on the bench. Turiaf got no PT
by YaHeard on Jan 2, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He got some
but I think we’re all in agreement that Gooden is better.
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by Zorgon on Jan 2, 2009 7:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
everyone will probably want to see how corey plays after
he gets back from his injury
by HoLdEmUP on Jan 1, 2009 11:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
well
will the bulls go for it, is it even feasible?
i don’t know im not so excited on that gooden trade, i just think their are better options
for example rtgunns proposal (get baron and g. wallace, give up maggette williams and crawford)
by amhd388 on Jan 2, 2009 12:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
if that trade could happen i think we would
but the clippers will not give up baron for what there getting
by gswfan1 on Jan 2, 2009 12:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
now shake your beared shake your beared
now thizz face, thizz face! haha i can’t wait to get mac dre resurrected in a beard, coming from a bay area guy, for a guy that don’t know “ill make love to you like you want me too”
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by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 2, 2009 1:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bad Trade- For Chicago
Looking at Chicago’s lineup you’ve gotta think they’re looking for a big. One of the most valuable things about Gooden for many teams is his expiring contract, since everyone is on a mission to be under the cap for 2010, and if I’m them I’m dangling that contract to try to get some decent big men.
Chicago is one of the few teams that can actually rival us for lack of balance on the roster. The smalls include Rose, Hughes, Hinrich, Deng, Nocioni and Gordon. Sefolosha is fairly solid to round thigs out. Doesn’t seem like much need for Maggette. Especially if they value defense, team play, and chemistry. On the other hand their bigs include Gooden, Tyrus Thomas (bust), Noah (best as a back up), and Aaron Gray. We actually have better bigs than they do, imo.
With Gooden and Gordon coming off next year and Hughes coming off the following year, they are in a good salary cap position for that class of 2010. Again, don’t see how adding Maggette would benefit them.
That said, it’s the NBA, so who knows what they are thinking. Maybe the much rumored Gordon sign and trade next offseason will bring them a big and maybe they dangle Hughes’ very valuable contract for a big. If they’re happy with a $75mm payroll in 2009 and sitting out the free agent markets in order to add Maggette and other teams unwanted bigs, it could work. Of course that could potentially make them a worse run franchise than ours.
Logic aside, as a W’s fan, I make that trade in a heartbeat. Gooden gives us exactly the type of short term veteran big that would help. He can rebound, which would be a huge benefit right now. And he shouldn’t block the progress of our young bigs, as he’s clearly not a long term solution. If we had to give up something of value for him, it would be a different story. But I’d trade Maggette for a rack of balls to get rid of his contract. To pick up an average veteran big with an expiring contract is just icing on the cake.
by jmaaan on Jan 2, 2009 2:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
here's something to look at
Dallas receives:
Corey Maggette
Jamal Crawford
Marcus Williams
Warriors receives:
Jason Terry
Brandon Bass
Jerry Stackhouse
Dallas gets a wing player with scoring punch that they covet, a combo guard who is a better scorer than Terry and an expiring contract in Williams. They also get rid of Jerry Stackhouse.
Warriors? well we get our big man in Brandon Bass, a run and gun pg in Terry. Stack? well he hates us sooo much that we may just be able to buy him out and just eat a contract that expires in 2010.
It works in trade machine…….so it must be good lmao
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Jan 2, 2009 5:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Bass
Is 6’8" and not particularly good at anything (except FT shooting). He’s no more “our big man” than Josh Powell or Richard Hendrix.
File that trade, for both teams, under RDCOTT.*
*(Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic).
OBAMA AMABO
by Sleepy Freud on Jan 2, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
which makes bass a perfect fit for the w's!!!
another jack of all trades master of none! sleepy…dont you think bass couldve stopped wilcox the other night?
warriors dont fish they hunt!
by VonteegoCummings on Jan 2, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*sigh*
the dubz are doomed to cleaning up the pile of sh*t we leave for ourselves.
oh yea, trade him
by rumpshaka on Jan 2, 2009 6:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Your post was rock solid.....
but then you said Gooden had a nice mid range jumper.
WHAT!!??!
by sjboy on Jan 2, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
From watching him play over the year’s I’ve seen a pretty solid mid range jumper. Couple that with his great rebounding rate and you’ve yourself a playa for Nellie.
Drew Gooden’s ESPN Player Card
Hollinger corroborates my impressions of his mid range game, but notes some recent struggles with that J:
Gooden is 6-10 and can play inside or out. Though he doesn’t have great form on his jumper, he’s pretty accurate with it from mid-range (until last year, anyway), plus he’s quick for his size and can get buckets inside on feeds or put-backs. He’s not an overpowering post player but can get points down low against smaller players. He’s also been one of the game’s better power forwards on the glass — even in an off year last season, he ranked 10th at his position in rebound rate.
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There’s no denying his talent, and his shooting percentage seems fairly certain to recover this year.
Think a better rebounding Kurt Thomas with not as good of D. Great beard too for my friends to hype up!
by Atma Brother ONE on Jan 2, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gooden’s time in Cleveland indicated that when paired with Z, he was a productive player cleaning the glass, taking the points given to him. Illgauskas has a more polished offensive rep. to go to and can make mid range jumpers and be effective out of the low post. It was a good fit. However, when paired with Varejao, a player whose offense is nothing but slop (a poor man’s Biedrins in that Varejao doesn’t have as nice a touch in close), Gooden found himself under more pressure to score and that did not work well for him. Gooden’s played with other good rebounding bigs and seems to have a good rate (while they maintain a good rate as well) suggesting that he wouldn’t detract much from what Andris is doing there, but it wouldn’t really solve the problems on offense. The team defensive performance would likely improve if only because there would be fewer easy putbacks.
While I’m not totally against the move, in large part because of the contracts, I suspect that Gooden/Biedrins would not be a great fit for either. While an improvement on our current front court situation, it’s not a long term solution.
by jae on Jan 2, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why bother getting a PF?
when all nellie wants to play is a lineup of 4 two guards and a center?
the stop calling him "beans" movement
by pervisNeverNervous on Jan 2, 2009 12:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Boozer/Almond for Maggette/Turiof
This trade is even better. GS gets Rid of TWO long contracts: Maggette & Turiof AND either sign Boozer to fill GS’s biggest weakness (4 Position) OR GS gets Boozer’s 12.66 Million dollar expiring Contract. Almond would be AWESOME with “Nellie Ball”. Almond is not as suited for Sloan ball.
Jazz get Maggette (A missing piece to their championship puzzle & Turiof can back up Millsap. Jazz do not need both Millsap & Boozer. They both play Power Forward & both are All-star type players.
WIN-WIN!
by cfr on Jan 13, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

















