Q&A: Tim Kawakami [Bay Area News Group]: Rowell, Mullin, Nellie, and Riley- The Blame and Credit Game (1/9/09)
There's that old saying that too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth. Given the Warriors disastrous season thus far, it appears that may be one of the major factors in play. There's President Robert Rowell, VP/GM Chris Mullin, Head Coach Don Nelson, and new front office executive Larry Riley all supposedly calling the shots for the GSW.

Atma Brother #1 (Golden State of Mind): Fans of this team are thoroughly confused about who's calling the shots and who's done what in Warriors land recently and there seems to be some conflicting reports in the media. Who amongst the big names we constantly hear about in Warriors central (President Robert Rowell, VP Chris Mullin, Head Coach Don Nelson, or new front office executive Larry Riley) should fans blame or credit for the following recent string of moves by the organization? What role did each of these 4 (if any) play in these moves? [rest of question embedded in bold within Tim's response]
Tim Kawakami: You're confused. I'm confused. GMs around the league are confused about the Warriors, or so I'm told. "It's all over the map," one executive told me recently when I asked which Warriors official makes and takes the calls with other teams' execs. "Changes every day."
I'm pretty sure the Warriors themselves a significantly confused about who's making the day-to-day decisions around there, since Don Nelson is the highest paid, Rowell is the highest ranking, Riley is the supposed hands-on guy and Larry Harris has the most recent GM experience. I'm not counting Chris Mullin on that current list because he's basically a consultant now, running out the last days of his contract.
So these decision-by-decision judgements are just best estimations, based on what I've heard and know about the situations...
* Buying out Adonal Foyle 2 summers ago instead of having an expiring contract this season
That's a good one. I've mainly focused on the ill-fated decision not to waive him when the one-time only amnesty provision was offered, when it was clear he wasn't going to play one year into his long-term deal. The no-waive decision was jointly made, I think, between Mullin (who signed him to the deal originally) and Rowell, who didn't want to surrender so soon after signing him.
The buy-out before last season was, I think, a compromise with Adonal, who wanted to go elsewhere so he could play, and the Warriors, who got a 40% cut in his salary hit and also wanted to do right by him. I guess they could've waited him out and held him as an expiring contract, then gone shopping with it, but that's a long time to hold onto a guy who wasn't going to play. At all.
* Drafting Marco Belinelli with the #18 pick in the 2007 NBA Draft
That was Mullin, with the enthusiastic backing of Nelson. I think Mullin saw Belinelli as a playmaker in the backcourt who could fit Nelson's offense better than Jason Richardson did. Though Mullin loved Jason.
* Trading Jason Richardson for Brandan Wright
Don't want to get into the whole mess of KG scenarios, since I've gone deep, deep, deep for too long. But I think moving J-Rich was first tossed out as part of Garnett possibility. That's how it started. That's the only way Mullin would've started thinking about it. (Remember, Ellis, another one of his favorites, was part of that talk, too.)
Once Mullin accepted the possibility of moving Richardson (his favorite remaining Warrior), it was easier for Nelson and Rowell to convince Mullin that Richardson had to go, even if it wasn't for Garnett, just to slash more long-term money off the books. I think Mullin went with it because he liked Wright and because he wanted to have some money stashed for a possible Baron Davis extension--plus Ellis and Biedrins were coming up soon.
* Letting the $10 milllion dollar trade exception expire
I think Rowell obviously spear-headed that one, for salary cap reasons, but I don't think Mullin was in total disagreement. The key was finding a player who was worth the TE--and going at least a bit into luxury tax--and they never found that player. An aggressive team like Dallas or Portland would've used a portion of the TE to try to get something, but by that point, I think Rowell and Cohan were uninterested in bumping against lux-tax penalties.
* Drafting Anthony Randolph with the #14 pick in the 2008 NBA Draft
That was Mullin. Again, with Nelson's thumbs up, but Lepper reports that Nelson liked Jason Thompson more, which sounds right, given Nelson's treatment of Randolph. Jason Thompson would not have been Mullin's pick. If both were on the board at 14, and if we're assuming Mullin still had control of the draft last June (which I believe he did), then I think Randolph still would've been the pick. Bigger top-end potential, and Mullin always likes the stardom possibilities.
* Letting Baron Davis go to the LA Clippers
That was Rowell. As has been discussed by me and others, Mullin negotiated a three-year, $39M extension with Davis, presuming Davis would not opt-out. It had to be approved by Rowell and Cohan, and it was rejected. Rowell insisted on a two-year offer, with the third year tied to Baron's health, which was unacceptable to Baron.
I think Rowell assumed that Davis would not opt out and that, at worst, the Warriors would get one more year out of Davis. That's also what I assumed and Don Nelson assumed and everybody in the NBA presumed. Except Baron and the Clippers. Of course, then Elton Brand left for Philly and it all went to hell for three franchises--Warriors, Clippers and Sixers.
* Extending Monta Ellis for 6 years $66 million
That was a consensus decision, everybody on board with that one from ownership to Mullin, with Rowell in between.
* Extending Andris Biedrins for 6 years $54 million (+ incentives)
Same as with Ellis. I think Rowell and Cohan, with the minority owners, sat down and decided that they should and probably had to invest in Ellis and Biedrins over the long-term. And that was always what Mullin wanted to do. Mullin's plan: Baron, Harrington and Jackson for the short-term, Ellis, Belinelli, Biedrins, Wright and Randolph for the long-term.
* Inking free agent Corey Maggette to a 5 year $50 million deal
Everybody was on board for this one, too, but mostly as a desperation move. Once Baron was gone and Arenas turned down Rowell's insta-offer of $105M, Rowell and Mullin figured they had to land somebody to put the ball in the bucket and make defenses react. Best player for that they could find: Maggette. His price tag: $50M, to go over the top of San Antonio's mid-level bid.
* Matching the Clippers 3 year $9 million offer for Kelenna Azubuike
Probably consensus. You always need wings for a Don Nelson team.
* Trading a conditional 1st round pick for Marcus Williams
Mullin's deal. As Nelson has gone out of his way to prove.
* Suspending and fining Monta Ellis $3 million
Totally Rowell and Cohan.
* Extending Stephen Jackson for 3 years $28 million
All Rowell. The signature move of his reign, added to his Nelson extension.
* Trading Al Harrington for Jamal Crawford
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hmm
interesting stuff. I still don’t trust Kawakami. His sources seem to be suspect, and I think he guesses as much as any of us.
by bayareaballa on
Jan 13, 2009 5:39 AM PST
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still don’t trust Kawakami
ditto, and frankly there’s little “news” here in these revelations
nonetheless, nice to have another confirmation and to have it all presented succinctly in one post
by hardcore on
Jan 13, 2009 6:56 AM PST
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Kawakami is TABLOID JOURNALISM....
He has made stuff up to further advance his career and can not be trusted. With Kawakrami its never the story its all about him. This crap wouldn’t even be on here if it weren’t for GSoM’s insestual relationship with him. Hey as you laways tell us,," Please move this post to fanshots as it was nto properly researched!"
by dungeness crabdribble on
Jan 13, 2009 7:29 AM PST
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Please move this post to fanshots as it was not properly researched!"
+1, that was a nice little joke to start my morning! haha, awesome!
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on
Jan 13, 2009 9:37 AM PST
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"Stay tuned! We've got more to come from Tim..."
That may signal the end of my GSoM readership. Once again, Atma does a disservice to the community by giving Kawakami another pedestal on which to raise himself.
by ffgolden on
Jan 13, 2009 9:28 AM PST
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I dunno
I don’t generally approve of Tim UpperRiver’s gossipy journalism, but I give Atma props for posting a piece that doesn’t support the “Nellie good ≠ MullinRowell evil” construct he’s been trying to build the past year or so.
And given the venom TK seems to inspire every time he gets linked here, is GSoM a pedestal he even wants to be on?
Stick around, FFG: you’re one of the best posters here. If you’re pretty sure TK is talking out his a**, it’s partly your responsibility to point that out, no?
-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.
by Sleepy Freud on
Jan 13, 2009 12:30 PM PST
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Best poster to never post...
Yeah, what’s up with that? ffgolden, you need to get those fingers tapping at the keys more often. We can’t have you fade away at a time like this when there is a shortage of reasonable people and sweet webpins…

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy
by olympicmike on
Jan 13, 2009 1:30 PM PST
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Ha, thanks guys. Can we bring Mbenga back for the sake of that webpin?
I just get fed up with Kawakami getting as much attention as he does. To answer Sleepy’s question: Yes, I think he wants the GSoM pedestal, regardless of the ire. There’s no such thing as bad publicity, right? And doesn’t it seem like that’s what he’s after?
He could have some reliable sources—I suppose it’s possible that he does actually “report” every so often. It’s hard to know, though, since the sort of gossip that he talks about is the kind of thing that rarely comes out in the clear 100%.
My point is: Even a loud, gaudy, broken coocoo clock is right twice a day. But do we need to read about the damn clock every time it crows, just because it’s loud?
by ffgolden on
Jan 13, 2009 10:51 PM PST
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Why does everyone hate Tim so much...
Just as a casual reader I don’t mind Kawakami’s takes on the Warrior situation. In reading some of the commments on both his blog and just in this last post, it seems as if Kawakami is the next coming of Ann Coulter or at the very least the anti-christ. I haven’t done enough research yet on Tim’s blog entries but why does everyone feel that everything he says is a lie and or for his own personal gain. If anyone can hip me to some knowledge about this sentiment it would be great. Thanks
by UCdubsFan on
Jan 13, 2009 10:06 AM PST
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Because he just pontificates and makes up whatever he wants to get clicks
And if you’re really learning anything from this article, then you haven’t been a Warriors fan for long and you’ll soon enough find out that he’s either regurgitating stuff that’s already known to the general public (really, everybody wanted to sign Monta & Biedrins? Go figure…) or making up stuff to get people like you and me talking about what he’s writing (Mullin getting shoved aside, letting the exception expire, etc.). If you go read old threads this board, you’d be able to formulate every single one of his responses.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on
Jan 13, 2009 11:02 AM PST
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I think TK gets hated on because he tends to be on the more pessimistic side of reporting than the other stable of writers (Marcus Thompson, Matt Steinmentz, Geoff Lepper, and Janny Hu). He also seems to have his own personal quarrels with Robert Rowell. He also seems to be getting on the nerves of Don Nelson as well. But i think that’s mostly because throughout the years, TK has mainly been a pro- Mullin guy (maybe because of the perceived relationship they had as executive and reporter). When the transition came from Mullin to Rowell/Nelson, you could see a shift in nastier journalism by TK. Still very informative, but probably with a little more bite in the analysis portion.
TK always lends his own opinion. Sometimes he’s wrong and usually does own up to it. Also, the site we always read—“Talking Points With Tim Kawakami” is a blog! I know it’s tied to the newspaper, but its still a blog where he’s freer to use his own opinion more than normal. It’s no different from the views and speculation seen here.
Also, when reading these blog sites, its usually a good idea to read multiple sites. If they’re all reporting things along the same lines, then it has a higher likelihood of being true. And also if you don’t like reading what he says—newsflash—don’t read it!
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on
Jan 14, 2009 2:25 PM PST
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TK has mainly been a pro- Mullin guy
The fact that he’s clear in his support of somebody means he’s not “reporting” or being a “journalist”, he’s using whatever platform he has to say whatever he wants. The fact that he has a platform leads many to believe they should trust whatever he says. Then they come over here and blast it around like it’s the truth when it’s just TK saying whatever he wants to support his “pro-Mully” agenda or whatever agenda he really has. It’s why I hate FoxNews and the rest. They’re all reporting what they want with whatever slant will further their agenda rather than reporting the truth.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on
Jan 16, 2009 12:24 PM PST
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Still...
I appreciate the time he took to answer the questions. Maybe I’m too nice.
by JRDub on
Jan 13, 2009 11:43 AM PST
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None of these are revelations, but it’s still nice to have a single ‘source’ on ‘record’.
I don’t think much of Kawakami’s analysis most of the time. Any time he starts talking about trades or the cap or the financial side of things, I wonder how someone can get away with knowing so little and still being a basketball journalist. But I recognize that he has access to people that gives him some authority to shed light on the ‘behind the scenes’ aspects where his speculation should carry more weight than most.
by jae on
Jan 13, 2009 11:52 AM PST
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pro-nelson atma/ Anti-nelson TK
where all the fist fighting at
by THIZZ-A-LOT on
Jan 13, 2009 11:57 AM PST
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Thanks for the insight...
Just wanted to get a idea of where the annimosity was coming. Don’t think that has anything to do with me not being a warrior fan for a long time since I have been down since the Run TMC days… I’ll do my due diligence and go through and research more of the threads just to get a better idea of the whole situation.
by UCdubsFan on
Jan 13, 2009 12:10 PM PST
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The guy has a great perspective of the Warriors
with his position, and I like this interview. However, the guy often has suspect articles.
by Nuck Chorris on
Jan 13, 2009 12:19 PM PST
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yeah why is a lotta people hating
if anything he has more insider knowledge than any of us. let him do his thing. any kind of news on the warriors i’m sure most of us wouldn’t mind reading since thats why we come onto this website isn’t it? to discuss stuff…
by bojangles408 on
Jan 13, 2009 1:04 PM PST
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Kawasaki is a Junior Varsity Writer
Kawakami has as much validity as say…Star Magazine, The Sun or The National Inquirer. Nellie called him Kawasaki once. I thought that was funny.
by gabezgsw on
Jan 13, 2009 2:17 PM PST
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Kawakami proved wrong again!
by dungeness crabdribble on
Jan 13, 2009 2:52 PM PST
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kawakami is already trying to dismantle ellis’ claims
by so ill so d0pe on
Jan 13, 2009 5:23 PM PST
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Please, i put as much stock into Ellis statement as I would in buying GM’s stock right now. Not much.
Just because Monta’s saying he wants to be a “Warrior for life” does not necessarily mean its true either. It’s not a good look for him or the Warriors if it is widely known that he’s not happy with the Warriors. 1. He’s not going to get his contract back. 2. He’s not maintaining his value with other teams if he does choose/forced to go to another team.
It’s a classic PR move to reassure fans/media/executives that he still wants to be here. Even if he’s lying.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
by kenntoe on
Jan 14, 2009 2:30 PM PST
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So...
Rowell and Cohan are responsible for Monta’s suspension and Baron leaving, and yet Mullin will be fired, and everyone calls for the firing of Nellie???
Holy smokes.
by bradyk2 on
Jan 13, 2009 2:59 PM PST
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Just read TK's most recent post...
I just finished reading his most recent post talking bout the Monta issue. At this point I respect what he has to say and will just wait and see what happens. To me what is the worst that can happen, that he is wrong. Which really ain’t that big a deal if you think about it since this season has been going down the tubes either way and TK being wrong would just solidify what a lot of people have thought of his credibility. BUT what if he is right and MONTA is just putting up a front in the short term just to get back into good graces?
Now I don’t personally know monta or anything like that and am taking him at his word that he wants to stay with the warriors but what if what TK said is true? Is it out of the realm of possibility that Monta wants to bounce even though he is at fault for what he did on the evil kenevil(sorry bout the spelling if its wrong) moped? I don’t think so and just hope that monta comes back ala MJ and just wrecks shop as a DUB for the rest of his career. I just think we should wait and see what pans out in the next month or so and then judge whether TK was totally off base or not.
by UCdubsFan on
Jan 13, 2009 5:00 PM PST
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Kawakami just posted this new nonsense
I guess he is now calling Monta a liar. Give up Tim, back away fromt he crackpipe and go underground for awhile you have lost all credibilty.
by dungeness crabdribble on
Jan 13, 2009 5:15 PM PST
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lol
check out this monta quote
Monta;’s response to questions.
“"That’s what I’m saying. That’s I said it starts with practice. Then practice carry over into games. So we’ve got to do whatever we can. Like I said, we can still make the playoffs if we make this run, get a couple wins under our belt and see how it goes."”
clearly monta has been forcefed answers.. next thing you know the warrior website will be preselling playoff tickets when we’re 20-50. I don’t believe monta’s interview as being him speaking honestly.
by saintdee on
Jan 13, 2009 5:48 PM PST
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we can still make the playoffs if we make this run, get a couple wins under our belt and see how it goes.""
That’s why it’s good to go to college.
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on
Jan 13, 2009 8:35 PM PST
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That made me laugh
We’re 11 1/2 games out of the #9 spot. #2-#9 are in a dog fight just like last year. They are 3 1/2 games between each other.
But I guess it’s better to be delusional and hopeful than to be sane and depressed, given the way our season’s been going. It’s more fun that way.
by IQofaWarrior on
Jan 13, 2009 9:16 PM PST
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While I'm looking at the standings
if we were in the East, we would be the SECOND WORST TEAM over there, just above the wizards. Here in the West, we’re the 4th worst team. Thank god for the kings, clippers, and the thunder.
by IQofaWarrior on
Jan 13, 2009 9:20 PM PST
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Here in the West, we’re the 4th worst team. Thank god for the kings, clippers, and the thunder.
Wow, I din’t realize anyone could be worse than we’ve played( other than the poor sonics who are lost somewhere in the midwest)
Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me
by Skeptic con Urquell on
Jan 14, 2009 10:04 AM PST
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Oh, he's talking about practice?
Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.
by bloodsweatndonuts on
Jan 13, 2009 9:57 PM PST
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Why Atma likes him
GSOM will do anything—and they should—to give a forum to people who actually get face time with the basketball demigods we worship. Listen to yourselves. Trashing a sports reporter for being incorrect and self-promoting. Sure, he is all of those. But apart from Pree we don’t have anyone here on this site who actually tells us real honest-to-god words players and coaches said in answer to their direct questions. The Warriors’ front office is like the Bush Administration for accessibility. Anyone who can drop a few crumbs to us lowly fans, even if he does smoke crack, is why I come to this site. Thanks, Atma, for being a better journalist than the man you interviewed and continuing to give us this forum in your days of pain and rage.
by Ormolov on
Jan 13, 2009 5:49 PM PST
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I like Tim’s breakdown of the state of Warriors. I think we can all agree things were better when Rowell was less involved, Mullin made the decision (be them right or wrong), and we had Baron. We’re back to the same mediocre Warriors we all have all grown accustomed to.
by tig8 on
Jan 13, 2009 7:38 PM PST
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Mediocre? Mediocre is akin to average.
This team has a whole lot of improving to do to get back to mediocre. This team stinks.
by jae on
Jan 14, 2009 8:20 AM PST
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TK is not a reporter
he’s a Columnist. There’s a difference. He’s paid to give his opinion, and he doesn’t try to hid that fact.
Ultimately, whether he’s right or not doesn’t matter to me. Just like sports and the Warriors, his columns are entertaining. He’s well-written, hard-working, and thought provoking. What else is he supposed to do??
by in for life on
Jan 15, 2009 8:38 PM PST
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Yes, he’s a columnist. But whether he’s a columnist, analyst, reporter, whatever, the crux of the issue is that his sources of information are dubious or suspect at best.
After all, we need only look at Chris Mortensen and the Raiders, and how they’ve lost the “privilege” of his reporting on them to show what solidity there is to a journalists anonymous sources.
by rroan28 on
Jan 15, 2009 10:54 PM PST
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true...
I guess I just look at it all as entertainment… Its pretty easy to see whether these guys are right or wrong anyway if folks want to keep score. My guess is when the story is too interesting to be true, it probably is… But he also puts out a lot of post-game transcripts and then gives his take on that stuff. And he puts his ideas out there so I’m not too worried about ‘sources’ from a columnist. That’s really part of the intrigue, they make some bold statements and its fun to see if they could be correct about. To see if all the behind the scenes whispering is actually true…
by in for life on
Jan 15, 2009 11:43 PM PST
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The problem arises when...
He posts his postgame report saying “Anthony Randolph and Nellie are feuding!!!” and then Nellie and Randolph have to publicly say “No, it was a misunderstanding.” because people read TK’s “analysis” as the truth.
Is his an opinion column or is he supposed to be somewhat of a beat reporter? Or is he sometimes one and sometimes the other?
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on
Jan 16, 2009 12:28 PM PST
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Opinion Column
He’s not a beat reporter, or any kind of reporter… His job is to have an opinion that will interest people. And of course, the more accurate he is the better, but even a writer with accurate stories isn’t always interesting. He writes what he thinks just like people on this website, some of it based on actual fact but most of it based on inference. How people react is on them. If one can’t read TK with a grain of salt and just take it for entertainment, maybe he’s right, maybe he’s not, then you’re not looking at it from the right perspective.
by in for life on
Jan 16, 2009 10:38 PM PST
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His column says he's a unfirable sports reporter at the Mercury News
And people treat him as an entity in the bay area sports world. People, right or wrong, seem to believe what he says sometimes, especially here at GSoM, where people cite him and his column as backup for their assertions a lot. When you’ve achieved this level of visibility, you can do one of two things: 1. Be truthful and honest about what you say, or 2. Try to gain as much attention as possible by reporting the most sensational story you can weave out of the evidence. Tim, unfortunately, has chosen the second route. “Monta Ellis will never suit up for the Warriors again”… yeah, that’s the heart of TK for you. He’s a hack. End of story.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on
Jan 19, 2009 11:21 AM PST
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