The Maggitude of the Situation
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 11:27 AM PST
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Despite the value of being able to get to the free throw line, and being able to drive to the basket Maggette is starting to wear thin on my patience. Let me count the ways.
Attitude:
1. Bitchering with Crawford.
2. Bitchering with Turiaf.
3. Bitchering with Ellis in practice.
4. When he pulled his hamstring he spent the entire time in LA rather than staying with the team to build morale and chemistry.
He also made the comment about people needing to step up while he himself was doing terribly.
Performance:
1. What jumper? 3 point or otherwise.
2. What passing? Oh you mean the ones out of bounds or to the other team.
3. What shot clock? Who cares if there are less than 2 minutes left on the clock and 24 on the shot clock. I am just going to launch this threeeeeeeee.
4. When was the last time he actually completed an And1?
On top of all this he has the same neutral expression and energy level the entire game, which drives me nuts because he does nothing to pick up the other players and get them going. He just goes with the flow of the game whether the Warriors are winning or losing.
Sounds like a Clipper.
Anyways, has the milk soured beyond salvation?
I think that he will be asked to do less with the ball when Monta gets back, but if he can't find his niche by then then I will have lost hope for him in the Bay. Is he even getting a home here (rented or bought) for his 5 year contract or is he spending all his time in LA?
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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his neutral expression drives me nuts too
how the hell can’t this guy get angry? anyways, i like maggs but to every man his own. unless of course we’re talking about religion, then you’re crazy.
by HoLdEmUP on Jan 15, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well Said Peter Griffin
…Well Said.
I hate how his face/facial reaction doesn’t own any kind responsibility for his faults…like he brushes his BS all too quickly.
by DubCurse on Jan 15, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I never liked Maggette. I’d much prefer Crawford being here than Maggette anyday. On another note, I wouldn’t be too quick to jump the gun until Monta comes back and see how the entire team at full health will gel with one another. With Monta out for these past 30+ games, it’s hard to tell how things will come out when everyone’s together. Just have some patience. If we can wait 12 years for one round of playoffs, we can wait a bit more, right? haha
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Jan 15, 2009 11:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maggs v. Craw
Agreed. In terms of actual value I think it’s about a push. Maggs is more efficient in a Berri/Wages of Wins sense, but a total bore to watch, and, as so many others have pointed out, irritatingly placid. Craw, while he doesn’t actually do the things that hustle players are supposed to do — specifically, rebound and play defense — at least looks like he cares. I think most Knicks fans would agree that amid the unholy mess of the Knicks 2006-08, Crawford was one of the team’s few consistently feisty, upbeat, healthy, and competitive players.
Plus, aesthetically speaking, one ankle-breaking Craw-ssover driver is worth a whole month’s worth of Maggs’s head-down plowing to the rim and Stanislavsky “he mauled me!” theatrics.
But where our two albatrosses diverge for me is not so much in their production but in the circumstances surrounding their acquisition. With the Craw deal, we were at least dealing from a position of semi-weakness. I mean, we probably could have (and should have) hung onto TMNT despite his malingering, but you could at least make the argument that he was a cancer that had to be dealt — that our hands were at least partially tied. By contrast, with Maggs we were under absolutely ZERO pressure to do anything. Once Baron left, for the first time in ages, we had some actual salary flexibilty. We could have gone after any type of player we wanted, or waited until such a player materialized. Instead … we went right out and signed a fragile, no-defense wingman (bidding against ourselves) to a pricy long-term deal.
Argh. Craw I can deal with. Maggs still sticks in my … er, craw.
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by Sleepy Freud on Jan 15, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I actually think he could do much better here if he can work off the ball with Monta, but as it stands you pretty much pinned the tail on the donkey.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thx.
and very nice diary, btw.
p.s. as a point of punning, I think the wordplay in your thread title would work better as “Magg-nitude.” If you change it, I’ll give you a rec. (Ah heck, I’ll give you one anyway … click!)
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by Sleepy Freud on Jan 15, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
We were somewhat under the gun in the sense that we only had the window between Baron opting out and the signing of Monta and AB to use our new found cap-space. If management would have let Baron walk and not replaced his production at all it would have looked really bad. Remember at the time we were coming off a near playoff season and everyone expected the team to be competitive. Now using hindsight and knowing that Monta would be injured and Maggs would struggle with injuries and inconsistent shooting (more inconsistent that usual) it looks like a worse move than it was at the time.
I actually think trading for Crawford was worse in the sense that Management knew we were going nowhere and had an opportunity to dump Al for cap-space but chose to bring in an inefficient guard who may not fit in with the long term plan (to play a non-smallball line-up we need to bench a $10mil player).
Now, reason aside, I totally agree that Crawford is more fun to watch and brings much more value to me as a fan during a losing season than Maggs does. But I think if everyone were healthy this season (or at least reasonably healthy) and this team’s record was a bit better Maggs wouldn’t get near the hate that he gets now.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait!
Did we just disagree on something? Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We Warriors fans
can’t help but to always be torn in two different directions.
No I don’t think we disagreed with each other there. The Warriors are in such turmoil that Warriors fans could reach out to shake each others’ hands and end up punching each other in the nards. Sigh
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think OM was actually addressing me.
But you’re welcome to punch him the nards for disagreeing with us… ;-)
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by Sleepy Freud on Jan 15, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the thing 1, thing 2 union is about to come crumbling down. You two may as well grab sticks or knives and square off in a death match now. For what its worth I agree with Sleepy, Maggs is worse, Maggette was a blatant overreaction. Without the Maggette signing maybe the Crawford trade never happens….
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh...
Does that make Sleepy a republican now?
Actually it’s pretty funny that the current debate surrounds the ranking of which of the Warriors recent bad moves was worse than the others. Can we just go off-topic again? It’s less painful.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea and actually I’d like to throw Jack’s extension into the ring for worst recent warrior move. I think thats worse than the Crawford trade.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I can’t find an upside to the Jackson extension.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And yet, there were several who posted here who didn’t think it was a bad move.
by jae on Jan 16, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(Raises hand, sheepishly)
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by Sleepy Freud on Jan 16, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Much like the number of people who claim to have been in Memorial Stadium for “The Play” increases annually such that it is now several times greater than the stadium capacity, so too will the number of people who said it was a bad move at the time. Shortly, everyone will say that they knew it was a bad move then.
Don’t worry. I was paying taking notes for full accountability.
I’ll scratch you off my list for being one of the honest ones.
by jae on Jan 16, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think my initial reaction was in favor but only because I thought it was a restructuring of his current deal, when I realized it tacked on 3 more years to his existing deal I did a quick flip-flop. Please take me off the list!
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think it was a terrible move
Until I realized that the extension isn’t going to kick in until he’s 2 years older than he already is. Seriously, what was the point? Not pissing off Jackson? Was that it? Why not wait till next year or something after you’ve seen how the team plays with everyone together? Why not consider trading him to somebody who wanted cap room in 2010? Heck, somebody clearing cap room for 2010 might be interested in clearing out the cap room from a lottery pick.
Premature extensulation. Just like Harrington was premature tradulation.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
with a deal that expired in 2010 Jackson would probably be a pretty juicy trade chip to a contender right now. Cleveland, Toronto, and LA would all have to have pretty significant interest right now.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
The Maggette “overreaction” (a term I mostly agree with) was all the more reason to deal Al for an expiring contract right?
At the time we signed Maggs it seemed to at least somewhat fit in a “plan”. Monta would move to PG replacing Baron and that would leave an opening on the wing. Maggs would fill this opening.
Then when injury strikes and the Al situation deteriorates we move our PF for another guard. A guy who isn’t as good as either of our starting guards (when healthy). It seemed to me like a long-term fix to a short-term problem (Monta being hurt). I would have said the same thing if we traded for someone like Hinrich (at least Hinrich plays some defense).
I’m not a huge fan of either Maggs or Crawford, but I don’t particularly dislike them either. I just think Maggs is getting a slightly unfair amount of criticism lately.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
well
Crawford COULD still be an expiring. I could see him opting out for a long term deal for mid-level type money to be a 3rd guard/6th man for a good team.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
true...
I tend to expect guys to not opt out of big money deals, but it actually happens a lot more often than I expect it to. I guess the long term security is a big factor for these guys.
I still think he stays, but after Baron left $17mil on the table nothing would surprise me.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baron opted out of $17mil for $65mil with the Clippers. For Baron, it was a no brainer.
Crawford is going to have about $19mil left on his contract (over 2 years). I really don’t think any team out there is going to offer him a multiyear 30+ mil year deal, since every team that actually has that kind of cap space will probably want to save it to try to lure Lebron the following offseason (or Wade, Amare, etc).
I’d pencil Crawford in for the next 3 years as a Golden State Warrior.
by YaHeard on Jan 15, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is where people start parroting the words “sign and trade <squawk!> He’ll opt out for a sign and trade.”
by jae on Jan 16, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
The one thing I think we could have foreseen — and LAC could have foreseen with Baron — is all the missed games. 28-30 year-olds who have been injured for long stretches for most of their career tend not to become magically healthy. Otherwise, you make solid points.
We should really look back and see how we all reacted at the time. I don’t think I was thrilled, but I’m pretty sure I wasn’t nearly as miffed as I am now (so really, I should STFU). Then again, I’m a bit of a shameless optimist/fanboy, prone to look on the bright side and ignore warning signs. Without checking, I think I thought it was an overpay, but that it made sense, coming off a solid 48-win season, as a keep-it-rolling “GFIN” move.
And as you say, no one could have or should have predicted the Monta injury … except for soothsayers like Skeptic and AB1, who always knew he was a little immature liar with mediocre motor-scooting skills … and that it was only a matter of time before he went out riding his moped barefoot…
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by Sleepy Freud on Jan 15, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True...
About the injuries. That was part of the Maggette package from the beginning, and something most people were concerned about.
BTW, I also am prone to fanboyism. I try to keep it internal and not let it cloud my “analysis” but I do find myself looking at the bright side of things more often than not. Heck, even though I thought the Crawford deal was a bad move, at the time, my first reaction was to comment on what an exciting player he was and how excited I was to see him play every night.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still believe that Maggette can and will be a useful contributor
He came first, when we only had Monta/Jax/Buke/Beli at the small positions. Crawford, on the otherhand, was added when we traded away a big AND already had 3 $10M/year players contributing at the smaller positions. The Maggette signing, at the time, did not preclude beefing up the front court. We could have traded Al for a PF/C, even if they weren’t that great, but when the FO let TMNT’s unhappiness force their hand, they jumped at a stupidly redundant piece. Maggette, at the time of his signing, was not a redundant piece. At worst, he was a complementary piece. Crawford, on the other hand, is either a long term solution to a short term problem (Monta injured) OR a a plain old redundant piece. Either way, his signing was waaaaayyyyy worse.
I still think it’s too early to judge Maggette’s contributions, or Crawford for that matter as the team is thoroughly injured and has been all season. Heck, even Belinelli & Wright have gone down. Everybody’s running around trying to blame Player X or Player Y, when the real story is that over half the team has missed serious game time AND played hurt. You don’t make it through that in the NBA where you have to play a third of your team at all times. It just doesn’t happen. No, we weren’t going to win the championship, but it’s nonsensical to try to place blame on the players themselves when they’re fighting an uphill battle against a deeper team every single night. Rob Kurz and Demarcus Nelson (two undrafted rookies) have started a combined 8 games for us. Can people please stop overreacting to perceived deficiencies of our starters who don’t happen to be injured right now? Please?
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He needs to come off the bench
That is when he is the best. He rebounds ok for a 4, but we need someone to help beans stay out of foul trouble. That is where missing bwright hurts the most.
Maggs is learning – his passing improved vs that horrible TO game of his. Just his FTs were not landing (just like most of the team wasn’t).
by mosdl on Jan 15, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Especially when he and the Don can get a good view of the possible match ups once the game is going.
Hopefully Monta will open up the floor a bit, and Maggs will get more secondary drives through the lane rather than trying to create off of the dribble.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maggs is Good Off the Bench Until/Unless We Can Move Him
The guy can induce fouls and can stablize a 2nd unit but does not have a starter’s mentality.
by terryteagle on Jan 15, 2009 11:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He is an opportunist. A good one.
That is why he should be coming off the bench.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maggette
Maggette is not the problem. The problems are defense and rebounding.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 15, 2009 11:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maggs plays no D and is a sub-par rebounder at best.
by Weedsmkn on Jan 15, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Danny Granger
In his eye ball!
Young Frisco Hard Hitter all about the Skrilla!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 15, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maggette
Maggette isn’t the only one that doesn’t play that well defensively. It’s a team effort to rebound and play defense. It’s all about being a cohesive unit.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 15, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
weird how that works. A bunch of guys who are poor rebounders and dont play D all on the same team and suddenly defense and rebounding are your shortcomings.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What's your definition of "sub-par rebounder"
I know the Warriors suck at rebounding, and that Maggette doesn’t grab as many as you want, but the fact is that you would only consider him a “decent rebounder” if he grabbed 8-10 a night and the Warriors won every game, and that’s just not possible for a 6’6" swingman in the NBA or a small team with as many injuries as we have.
He’s a fine rebounder for his size and position. Go inhale some more “weedsmk”.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 6:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OFF THE BENCH!!!
That mellow attitude isn’t needed as a starter. I LOVE him off the bench. He can provide a spark, but also know that he is NOT a go to guy. He should absolutly not start. Period
by Gurthy on Jan 15, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The milk's gone bad!
Look, why are you blaming Maggette. He’s essentially the same dude he was with the Clippers. What more can you expect from him? That’ just what kinda player he is.
Blame whoever signed him to that $50m/5yrs contract.
by YaHeard on Jan 15, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I know the contract is crap.
It is his in-game decisions that I find questionable. He definitely operates much better in a true half court set.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blame whoever signed him to that $50m/5yrs contract.
I think most of us are.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i like maggette
because of his trade value
by amhd388 on Jan 15, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Trade Value
Other teams do not like his contract, though.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 15, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
zuh?
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.
by BrianBokake on Jan 15, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
at least he didn't TO the ball as much....
by Shells on Jan 15, 2009 12:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
which one?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't say I'm his biggest fan....
but I am sick of all the boos coming his way from our own fans. I think he is a one-dimensional player but he still deserves a chance to contribute. He CAN contribute, especially coming off the bench to provide a little offensive spark. I hate the turnovers, but, give him the rest of the season to show us if he can grow. We sound like Yankee fans. He is a warrior, he wants to be a warrior, give him some support.
by StephenJaaackson! on Jan 15, 2009 12:27 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If he wants to be a Warrior
Why does he spend all of his free time away from them? Harrington has his home in Las Vegas. Baron his in LA. Does he even have a home int he Bay Area. He should if he is going to be here for 5 years. It is a buyers market after all.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we only boo him though, not the team
so no not Yankee fans
by THIZZ-A-LOT on Jan 15, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I've noticed...
some serious negativity aimed at Maggs lately. I saw some guys in my section giving a standing ovation when he fouled out last night (and not in a “good job tonight” sort of way). Unfortunately I think being somewhat tied to Baron’s departure has something to do with this. I’m not a huge fan of his attitude but I don’t really have an issue with the guy.
As far as his game goes, he is doing what he always has (granted he isn’t shooting as well as he has in past seasons). He rebounds reasonably well for a SF. He gets to the line (a skill we have lacked in the past). I’d say he’s about an average defender (he doesn’t get a lot of steals or blocks but he does a reasonable job staying between his man and the basket)
Overall I don’t think he’s hurting us nearly as much as most people do around here. Ok, I was pissed with all the missed FT’s last night but that’s not the norm for him.
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by olympicmike on Jan 15, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
People really need to grow up and look at themselves
I see a lot of people who are pissed that the Warriors are losing and looking for a scapegoat. Given that Maggette “replaced” Baron, who was a fan favorite and that he relies on isolation moves and getting to the line (which is the exact opposite of the high flying “Run & Gun” that Baron was associated with), I think he unfairly gets blamed for everything. Combine that with the lay-person’s complete inability to dissect game play or know what the team’s goals are, or realize that youngsters don’t know what they’re doing, you get a lot of complaining at Maggette. Sigh…
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 7:00 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
kicking Monta in the shins
during practice doesn’t tell me he wants to be good teammate or even play well with our franchise player. He had to be pulled back immediately after by another teammate.
I hope you guys caught that video from a recent practice.
Mags was a loser before and will always be one.
by misterjennings on Jan 15, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I didn't see that.
I knew they were getting heated, but I thought they were separated before anything happened.
Link if you can.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
after cj hits a j on a slow rotating Mags..
by misterjennings on Jan 15, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ah i see now that it is in this tape.
When i watched before I just skipped through till i found monta’s jumper. Nic catch.
That’s redunkadunk. At least Monta is working the accountability angle. CJ pulled a Chris Quinn on Maggette. lol.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why doesn't Mags try to intimidate
opponents instead of smaller, younger teammates?
I can’t see how any of his supporters find him helpful to our team. I thought he was signed partly because he was a vet who could be a good influence on the youngsters. And people are saying AR has an attitude problem?
IMO Mags needs to lay off the roids, step away from the mirror, and start earning his paychecks.
by misterjennings on Jan 15, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are ridiculous
It’s very clear that he’s standing in front of Monta, he makes that same motion with his leg a second beforehand, Monta NEVER LOOKS AT HIM AFTERWARDS, NOBODY ELSE ON THE FLOOR NOTICED. YOU’RE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE WHO SEE THIS. As I said to Albino on the other thread, you’re worse than Kawakami.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 7:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody saw it.
They yanked him away quick enough.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 16, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just glad it's just you two and Albino...
Ugh, enjoy your conspiracy theories. Seen any flying saucers lately?
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I saw some funky lights in the sky the other night, but I am in Santa Cruz, and it might have been something in the tobacco.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dubs fan in boston...
for future posts do us all a favor and change your name to “blind fan in boston”
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh snap!
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yikes
really? how did I miss the whole thing?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh
probably because its a bunch of garbage, likely just the two of them fooling around. Sounds like something Kawakami would report
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 3:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
check out the video I linked above
most definately not fooling around. you can tell there’s not love between Mags and Monta. who started it, we’ll never know but they certainly aren’t giving high fives or smiling at each other
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 5:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See above
You’re ridiculous. I’d use more colorful language, but my post would get deleted.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 7:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
misterjennings are you Tim Kawakami?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no but you folks are most definately
Corey’s (add even more colorful text here)…
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually I’m firmly on board with the trade-Maggette movement. But your attack on his character based on this clip is ridiculous.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes I'm ridiculous
but you are delusional
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Do you really think it’s a big deal? I’ve gotten into it worse than that with some of my best friends playing ball in front of my house. People get competitive, and sometimes things get a little heated. It doesn’t really mean anything. Nobody asks to be traded because one of their teammates got under their skin a little at practice.
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by olympicmike on Jan 16, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
I hope Rob Kurz doesn’t ask to be traded because of that nasty elbow to the chin….in practice! hahaha we talkin’ about practice! not a real game….practice!
come on now…it’s good to see some toughness out of Maggs and I like how Monta is trying to bring that out of everyone, including Maggs, by playfully trash talking too.
Young Frisco Hard Hitter all about the Skrilla!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 16, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's no biggie..
I never once said it was a big deal.
I just posted my opinion of Mags based on what I saw from that clip and what I’ve seen of him this season. And from what I’ve seen up to this point, my opinion of Mags is not a very favorable one.
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect strongly that it was your opinion of Maggs before that point that allowed you to even pay the slightest bit of attention to that as some means to criticize him. The urge to vilify Maggette is allowing you to see things that don’t really look like they’re worth mentioning.
by jae on Jan 16, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what can I say?
I’ve never been a fan of his game…
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hes a half court player
playing on a fast paced team…he just doesnt fit.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawk on Jan 15, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It is all so clear now.
Kind of like Brand on the Sixers.
Or conversely Baron on the Clippers.
Gah…… shenanigans.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I'm not the only one frustrated with Maggette, Finally..
by AlbinoWhale on Jan 15, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you ever were the only one
Every time I read these posts, everyone has something to say about him. I’m just sorry to see that Maggs isn’t really working out for us, but maybe he’ll have better games.
by Golden Boy on Jan 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i really do see animosity between him and JC...
and it REALLY pisses me off when he keeps putting the other guys down saying him and JC are the only 20 point players out there, so they have to keep shooting. QUIT SAYING YOUR OTHER TEAMATES CAN SCORE 20+
by THIZZ-A-LOT on Jan 15, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Totally
That is one of the more magical things about a Don Nelson system. Players like Earl Boykins or Speedy Claxton, CJ Watson, Morrow, Belinelli can BLOW up on any given night. Maggette’s preconceptions about his teammates (conscious or unconscious) clearly carry over into his game play.
I wonder what the deal is with him and Jamal?
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't like it when he got booed
he loves it here but not when hes getting booed in his first season. How would you feel if you liked it here and you said you loved the fans then all of a sudden they start booing you? It’s not good for his game. Let him play. Sure he pisses me off most of the time but dang dude, blame it on nelly for not limiting what he can and cant do. Actually just blame nelly for everything since an open shot is a good shot.
by bojangles408 on Jan 15, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
he has been playing a lot better...
remember when he would have at least 3 airballs a game! He wouldnt stop taking those damn 3’s that he practicly missed EVERYTIME! he should have been booed then…
by THIZZ-A-LOT on Jan 15, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has
made “some” changes. I’ll give him that.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not fair that fans expect him to be Baron’s replacement. Some fans probably still think we traded Baron for him. And it’s not fair that he’s getting blamed for the contract we gave him- why would he turn that down? He’s just coming here and playing his game, and he’s getting blamed for who he is more than what he can do.
by antihero on Jan 15, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and the boo’ing is unjustified. He’s here, it wouldn’t benefit us to trade him away (we wouldn’t get anything of value in return), so he’s going to be here for the next 2 or 3 years at the least, probably not the full 5. We have to learn to deal with it, he’s not going anywhere
by YaHeard on Jan 15, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let it be known...........
I still feel like it is far too early to boo the man, but like I said my patience is wearing thin.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 15, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
he said on the warriror weekly that teamwork is important
and he said that to the kids!
I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck
by chili01 on Jan 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
boo his sorry ass
Make him hate us. He’ll demand a trade. Then Crawford will opt out at the end of the season and the nightmare will be over.
by obiandandy on Jan 16, 2009 7:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
booing his sorry ass
has nothing to do with him replacing Baron. Nothing at all. It’s because he is mediocre and is dragging our team down. He has no fight. Plays without any passion. His movements are lethargic. His passes are lazy and careless. 4-12 from the line in the last game is completely unacceptable…If he hits even half his free throws we win the game. My wife and I were throwing things when he came in for Morrow in the 4th….Why did he come in? Just to clank a couple free throws….his game stinks and I want him gone.
by obiandandy on Jan 16, 2009 8:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I never even played varsity in high school
and i can’t remember the last time I missed 8-12 free throws.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You probably don't shoot FTs very often then
Try taking two FTs, doing wind sprints for 30 minutes, then some plyomerics, and again shooting 2 FTs. Rinse and repeat. I’d be suprised if you MADE 5/12.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 16, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the last year and a half
I’ve been playing 3-4 hours a day about 3 times a week. I shoot plenty of free throws to get in games. Often immediately after playing…… pshaw.
I don’t want to get into an e-peen flexing contest with you because I like most of your posts.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 16, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
But DFiB has been pissy-cheerios today, hasn’t he?
It must be his so-called “job.”
Or maybe it’s the bitchering New England weather? (it’s like freaking 10° today here in NYC).
Or just the sorry state of his favorite basketball team…?
Thing 1
by Sleepy Freud on Jan 16, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad someone else is noticing his rather un-golden-state-of-mind today..
then again, we’re criticizing his idol so I can’t blame him
by misterjennings on Jan 16, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It snowed all day yesterday
Which was great for the skiing, but waking up and having another 4 inches of snow on my car I had to shovel out was no picnic.
“pissy-cheerios”? Never heard that one before… yeah, job sucks, favorite basketball team sucks, weather sucks, and when I go to GSoM to get a short respite from it all, there’s these idiots with an idiotic conspiracy that Maggette is kicking Monta in the ankles in practice… though the video evidence they cite clearly suggests otherwise. If you look at that video, you can clearly see:
Marcus Williams plowing into Anthony Randolph at full speed – 0:11
Some guy without a jersey number taking a swipe at Randolph – 0:20
Monta punching Maggette in the kidneys – 0:44
The only real thing to take away from that video is that Randolph is clearly in his own little world. At 0:30 when everybody else is huddled together, he’s off playing with the ball by himself, then at the end, he’s throwing the ball up in the air to himself. Weirdo.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 19, 2009 6:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what is....
Bitchering? I’m sure i know what it means but that ‘s the first time i’ve heard that word used. where’d you get that?
Young Frisco Hard Hitter all about the Skrilla!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 16, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I dunno,
I just typed it for one sentence then added it to the others. Its pretty much a hybrid between bicker and bitching.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 16, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am with the few decent minded individuals
who think Maggette should not be boo’d. Serious what a joke. He comes back from his injury, he tries to do exactly what was asked of him (come off the bench and pass), he did both of those (maybe needs help with passing technique and timing), Jack goes down, Maggs keeps us in the game the entire way.
It wasn’t until Crawford took 3 contested jumpers that we truly lost that game.
Maggs is getting a bad rap for this one…. even worse than dunleavy. Sad thing is he is 3 billion times better for us than dunleavy was. I think he is doing what we asked of him. Enough said… wait until we have a full squad before you judge someone.
In case you didn’t noticed, Kings double teamed him for most of the second half to get the ball out of his hands. I don’t love Maggs, but lets see when the defensive attention is on Monta. If teams focus on monta I will love to see how Jax, Maggs, and Crawford play.
Who knows we might just be able to gel…. but Boooooooing does nothing to help us.
by shooter1525 on Jan 16, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
unfair
Maggette has definitely underperformed. BUT, he is playing the PF position many time…he has to bang more on the D end, can’t get out in transition as much, and out Offense is so stagnant that when he goes one on one against a PF the help defender easily hedges b/c nobody else on the team is moving. We brought him in to score, he still does that well, and gets to the ft line more than anyone else on the team. And you know why he shot a career best 3 pt % last yr, b/c he had a coach who told him only to take them when he was open and could set his feet. When he was injured, ya he should have spent more time with the team, but hell, if I was on that organization I would be looking for a couple weeks away too!
by mbuddtha on Jan 16, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He had a good night tonight.
My skin got a little thicker.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 16, 2009 10:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Would you like some lotion to make it appear thicker?
=)
by Shells on Jan 17, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I felt justified in my criticisms
and I am very happy that he turned it around.
He also hurt his finger the day of the Kings game (can’t remember exactly how). I’m glad to see him being used as a sixth man.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 17, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Save the lotion
for the “playoff run” the Warriors are going to make.
by Nuck Chorris on Jan 17, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh?
But I got plenty of lotion to share. I am glad that you are “beginning to like” Corey. At least in my eyes.
Everyone just deserves some type of love.
(Don’t think it was mentioned how he injured his right hand [fingers] in the Pacer’s game)
by Shells on Jan 17, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 19, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
he only makes expressions when he dunks. nothing else
by nateoak10 on Feb 3, 2009 11:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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