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Monta Magic - A look at numbers

As Warrior fans we were heart broken and angry ever since we learned of Monta's injury that would ultimately cost him half the NBA season. We’ve seen the team go from 48 wins to being on pace for something in the 20s.

So how big of a role does Monta play in all of this? Will he truly make an impact? If he does what should we expect from the Warriors franchise player? Those are the questions many of us have so I’ll attempt to answer them.

First question is statistically how is this team doing compared to last seasons team?

STAT: current (last season)

 

Scoring margin: -4.9 (+2.2)

PPG: 107.4 (111.0)

Fastbreak: 17.1 (22.5)

Points in Paint: 43.9 (47.6)

eFG%: 49.1% (51.1%)

3 PT (m/a): 6.5/18.2 (9.3/26.6)

FT (m/a): 22.8/29.8 (18.8/24.9)

AST: 20.6 (22.4)

BLK: 6.5 (4.7)

STL: 8.0 (9.1)

TO: 14.6 (13.0)

REBD: 29.9 (30.4)

REBO: 12.5 (12.7)

Possession/Game: 102.3 (102.4)

Offensive Efficiency: 1.049 (1.084)

Defensive Efficiency: 1.097 (1.066)

 

So what’s do we make of all those stats?

The 08-09 Warriors compared to the 07-08 team is performing fairly similar to the BD and Monta led squad. The 08-09 edition plays at the same pace, rebounds about the same, shoots less 3 pointers, blocks more shots, and drives it to the lane more than last season’s 48 win squad. Compared to last year it has not put as many points as past teams in the paint, fast break, or total, has fewer assists, steals, and more TOs. Also the efficiency numbers are down too. However, aside from the scoring drop all the other stats are fairly close to last seasons and many people worried about assists dropping because of losing BD but we are averaging only 2 less assist per game, but that has improved since Crawford came aboard and Nelson instituted the motion offense. So assists is not a big issue.

Bottom line is the Warriors this season stack up fairly well statistically to the 48 win team that had BD AND MONTA. It can be pretty safe to assume that Crawford/Maggette/Bench Mob has filled in reasonably well for BD/Harrington/Ellis as the main rotation players.  So we can get a fairly good reading of how Monta Ellis will impact the Warriors upon his return to his former self.

1) Fast break points

Before I looked up any numbers just from my observation one of the ingredients the Warriors are missing this year is fast break points. The lack of easy points in transition really kills the Warriors. How many times have we seen botched fast breaks? I couldn’t tell you how many times we have 2 on 1 or 3 on 2s that result in a horrible shot or a TO.

People may attribute that to the fact that we don’t have BD to run the floor but I think the bigger factor is we don’t have the 1 man fast break to turn an outlet pass into a quick and easy 2. Monta makes the fast break easy to run…. just get him the damn ball (I think we all agree even Maggette can do that if he’s willing).

Here are the numbers from 82games.com and teamrankings.com

Team PPG:

Last season: 111.0

This season: 107.4

 

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stats/?cat=team&pan=2052

 

Fastbreak points scored:

Last season: 22.5 (1st)

This season: 17.1 (3rd)

 

Fastbreak points allowed:

Last season: 13.9 (27th)

This season: 15.7 (30th)

 

82games.com

 

Shot Clock 0-10 seconds used:

Last season: 46.0 pts

This season: 41.7 pts

 

As you can see our overall points has dropped 3.6 ppg, our fast break points has dropped from 22.5 to 17.1 a whopping 5.3 pts per game less, and from 82games.com you can also see our points scored during the 1st 10 seconds of the shot clock has dropped 4.3 pts per game. Right now our point differential is -4.9 pts per game. So it seems that quick and easy fast break points are lacking.

So how does Monta fit in all of this? I couldn’t find fastbreak points per player so I used 82games 0-10 seconds as a barometer:

Monta Ellis - 58.9 eFG% (#3), 9.3 pts/game (#1)

 

Those were his numbers last year for 0-10 seconds and where he would rank if inserted into this years team. He would be #1 in 0-10 seconds points with 9.1/game and #3 in eFG% on those shots. Those are great but his true value shows when you look at them compared to the team now. While Crawford is #2 at 8.6 ppg his eFG% is only 49.6%!!! That’s nearly 10% less than Monta. Than you check out his FG% at #3 is nice but if you compare it to Wright and Biedrins, Monta nearly triples Wright (3.6 ppg) and almost doubles Biedrins (5.4 ppg) in output.

So we’re talking about inserting OUR FASTBREAK OFFENSE HERE! Monta scores in bulk and at such a high efficiency. So immediately expect the Warriors fast break numbers to increase and we’ll see less of those botched opportunities. Thank god.

2) FG%

Ellis connected on 53.1% of his FG while scoring 20 points per game. He’d rank behind Biedrins and Wright if you assumed he’d produce at the same clip and that is highly impressive given how many shots Monta Ellis gets. Anytime you add an efficient scorer to the team it should only help. Again, if we shoot more efficient we give up less rebounds and that should help our transition defense.

3) Rebounding

If Monta continues to rebound to last season’s average he’d rank #3 on our team behind Biedrins’ 12 and Maggs’ 6.1. Currently the team is averaging roughly the same amount of rebounds as last season so adding Monta will be a boost especially out of the PG/SG position. Getting 5 from there every night means less second chance points for the opponents and more fast break opportunities for the Dubs.    

4) Assists

Last season Monta averaged 3.9 ast/game with BD dominating the ball. Even with that paltry average Monta would rank #3 behind S-Jax and Crawford this season. I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume without BD that those numbers should increase. Again Monta should only help the Warriors out and like I mentioned earlier ball movement isn’t a big deal IMO as others suggest now that we have the motion offense.

5) Steals

Right now his 1.5 stl per game from last season would rank as #1 on the Warriors just barely edging out Jackson. Another bonus to the team as more TOs means more opportunities to get out in transition.

Conclusion

Looking at the statistics Monta would shore up the Warriors' biggest deficiency and biggest difference from last years success: scoring. He’d also help the other categories that have experienced a drop off from last year such as squad such as rebs, ast, stls, and more importantly FG%. I mean just look at where Monta would rank on our team if he produced to his season averages from last season:

FG% #3, PTS #1, REBS #3, AST, #3, STL #1

People often think of Monta as just a scorer because he is an ELITE offensive force but he also helps the Warriors in other categories as well. Now, this doesn’t mean the Warriors will march into the playoffs this season (I doubt with Monta they can win 30 out of the next 39 games – unless they improve rebounding and defense – not Monta’s forte) or that Monta is going to produce at the level he did last year immediately, but there is hope Warrior fans.

All signs point to Monta having a successful recovery and that should give hope to Warrior fans for a competitive team for the remainder of this season due to addition of Monta, the shift from chucking 3 pointers to driving it to the rim, and the improved bench play (one of the benefits from the injuries). Next season it wouldn’t be hard to expect the Warriors to battle for playoff contention with the current roster (as flawed as it may be) because the stats seem to show the difference between a 48 win team and a 26 win team is a little Monta Magic.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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you can also look at it like last year's team was better at everything except FT attempts and blocking shots.

that efficiency statistic is especially telling. on offense +0.035 points per every possession which accounts for almost 4 more points per game for us.

along with a defensive efficiency of -0.033 p/p which would be about 3-4 points less for the opposition in each game.

it doesn’t look like much of a difference having 2 more assists per game or 2 less turnovers, but these things actually constitute a huge difference over the course of a season. to compare, last year the bobcats were -4.4 and were 32-50. the blazers are currently +2.8 this season and are 25-17.

at the end of the season, it’ll be interesting to see how our #’s compare w/ Monta to last years squad.

by the evil monkey on Jan 23, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed but that was a team with BD and Monta...

We’re putting up comparable numbers with a brand new team and WITHOUT Monta Ellis.

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by FLAxwless on Jan 23, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

So I expect those O efficiency statistics to go with Monta...

due to his fast break ability and FG%

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by FLAxwless on Jan 23, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That was

 really long with lots of words

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 23, 2009 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

It's simple

This team is hella better and faster when Monta is one the court.

by Five Ten Entertainment on Jan 23, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It's simple, This team is hella better and faster when Monta is one the court.

     Thanks, by the time I got to the bottom I din’t care.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 23, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

double thanks

The only part I read was the rebounding part.

Which I think he can really help.

Those ricochets that our guards just fall short from Monta can probably get.

by lightz0ut on Jan 23, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha...

Glad you guys appreciate writing with data to back it up….

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From the man running the Warriors Blog:

"Like my main man DT over at FTB eloquently stated- I cheer for people, not laundry. We Believe was Baron, J-Rich, Barnes, MP2, Foyle, Jack, Al, Andris, Monta, Sarunas (the cheering), Nellie, and Mullin plus the golden fans."

Is that a true Warrior fan? I cheer for the "Warriors" not the name on the back.

by FLAxwless on Jan 23, 2009 11:18 PM PST reply actions  

Glad you guys appreciate writing with data to back it up….

  You don’t think we actually read it do you?

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 23, 2009 11:36 PM PST reply actions  

it was a very good post, thank you flaxwless!

skeptic just has very low attention span, he cant read more than 1 sentence and still remember what it was all about.

by farid on Jan 24, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

skeptic just has very low attention span,

  No, I just don’t want to waste energy salivating over all that when I can just watch them play and see that we are not as good as last year.

Now wheres the rubbers? Whose got the rubbers?
I noticed there's so many of them
and there's really not that many of us.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 24, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's something more to think about

Production by Position from 82games.com (Sorry, can’t get this to format right)
2008-09
Pos PER OPP NET
PG 14.9 15.7 -0.8
SG 16.2 16.1 0.1
SF 15.2 17.3 -2.2
PF 17.2 20.3 -3.0
C 21.3 22.2 -0.9

2007-08
Pos PER OPP NET
PG 21.8 17.3 4.5
SG 17.3 15.7 1.7
SF 16.6 15.9 0.8
PF 16.7 18.1 -1.4
C 18.3 19.6 -1.3

Pos CHANGE
PG -5.3
SG -1.6
SF -3
PF -1.6
C 0.4

Basically what this says is that we are getting slightly worse performance from our Shooting Guards and Power Forwards, Dramatically worse from Small Forwards and Point Guards, and the same from our centers.
Because Nelson uses players pretty much indiscriminately when it comes to position- especially when it comes to SG, SF, and PF- it can pretty much be concluded that the roster as a whole isn’t doing as well, but the severe drop off in point guard play shows just how much BD is missed. With the Harrington trade, Wright’s injuries, and
Turiaf spending the majority of his time at center, I would have expected the PF to decline more, but that seems to have projected itself onto the SF because of Nelson’s non-traditional lineups.

by philthiest on Jan 24, 2009 3:38 AM PST reply actions  

Nice....

I suspect the PG spot to get better once Ellis and Crawford log more games together also last year we had a pretty healthy team compared to this year.

But yah that shows the biggest effect of BD but I wish we could sort them to see how Crawford was when running the point. The one thing about BD despite all the 3s he jacked up is he always did well in in the PER because he always had great AST:TO ratio.

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by FLAxwless on Jan 24, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It's all about the guards.....

Even though Crawford is not a physical player(at all) he will take the place of Baron like last season. He can rack up the assists, can score when we need him and can be our floor general. If you watched some of his games when he was on New York you would know that. We have the best two guard combo in the NBA.

by Richboievans on Jan 24, 2009 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

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