BOFF of em!

we’re stuck with beli for the next few years i think since we picked up his contract.

and we’d be a fool not to pick up morrow’s cheapie contract. win win for us.

so trade him and MWill.

develop belli’s playmaking skills more and we have solid backups in Rocky and Sniper A-Mo at the 1 and 2

Crawford should, hopefully, be gone at the end of the season so we can keep them both. Crawford doesn’t offer a whole lot to this team imo. Inconsistent volume shooter with little to no defense. Pairing him with Ellis in the backcourt would give us one of the worst defensive tandems in the league at Guard. Belli and Morrow at least look like they’re improving on defense.

Marcus won’t be back for sure, and crawford may opt out and go somewhere else.

This season, once marco comes back, jc/marco at the point (with some monta I guess) means less time for CJ. But CJ never seems to mind not playing much, and with our injury record, should hang on to him for this season and see what happens after the season is over.

I see no reason to get rid of morrow – he seems like a capable backup to sjax, especially if his D improves.

I am more concerned about bw/ar development.

Morrow’s a good bit better than Marco, and Morrow complements the rest of our roster better than Marco, as well. I’d also probably take CJ over Marco. Marco’s played a little better defensively than CJ, but CJ scores a bit better, rebounds better, and for all the angst about his struggles on the break, his passing numbers are better than Marco’s.

I enjoy Marco, but I think he’d be a good guy to move while he still might intrigue somebody. He’d be a perfect guy to toss into a Crawford package this summer.

how are morrow and belli similar?? they are no where NEAR the same player!!

jamal opts out, we dont resign williams. then we have four players in the backcourt, which isn’t that crowded considering morrow mostly plays the 3. not the 2…

Ya I think we should just hold off on trade talks (unless amare is involved) and play the rest of this year out. Jamal will most likely opt out this summer I don’t think he is part of our long term plans he was just the best player we could get for AL at the time. I like Jamal … but not close as much as Monta. Besides Monta and Morrow look like they compliment each other really well. Quick take it to the rack mid-range Monta and then the dead eye shooting of Morrow. And just by watching him you can tell he is working on his defense, same with Marco.

I like the play of both Morrow and Beli. Its true that we have too many guys filling out nearly the same roll. That’s why I’d say, if we’re going to keep our current roster OTHER than these two, I’d probably take Morrow. However, my ideal lineup would include trading our two worst defenders, CJ and Crawfish, move Beli into the PG position, and keep Morrow as our go-to man for 3’s.

The reason I would choose Morrow of Beli if the rest of the roster stayed the same is because while Beli has tons of promise, this is Morrow’s 1st year and we’re already seeing him produce more than Beli was. Beli is a great passer and playmaker at times, and can hit jumper / drive well at times. Morrow can hit the 3, and that’s about it. But at the same time I see more promise in Morrow simply because I know his game will expand to encompass driving, playmaking, and defense like Beli’s has over the last year.

Ultimately, like I said above, I’d like to see them both stay with CJ and JC getting traded for another solid PF or C, and pickup a good PG in the draft next year.

This really isnt that big an issue. We should just wait and see how they are when marco is healthy. Until then discussing this is pointless. Also both Marco and Morrow are young and have a lot of potential to get a lot better. Now do you really want to see them doing what they do for other teams on a nightly basis? This is what good championship winning teams do. They get a 12-man deep roster and find enough minutes in it for everyone to be happy and productive. I believe that we are a championship contender in about 2 to 3 years assuming Jamal Crawford does not opt out and Jackson and Maggette have some game left in them by then. With all the experience that Wright, Randolph, Belinelli, Morrow, Biedrins, and yes even Ellis are going to have by that time, I think that a championship will not be unrealistic. I’d like to see another team throw out a 12 man roatation that actually works.

Belinelli has play making skills and he has really worked hard on defense. If I had to choose then I would choose Marco, but there is no problem with keeping both. Morrow is the best shooter on the team, but Marco is not far behind. It would be interesting to see Marco at the 1 and Morrow at the 2 for a little bit. Personally I think CJ as well as he has been playing is the odd man out.

And morrow is learning. Who knows what he could looke like in a couple seasons. I would like to keep em both, but i think we could deffinitly get better value back by trading Marco if its one or the other. But we have too many shooting gaurds beacause thats the way Nelson wants it.

…and it looks like Marco’s better with that than CJ.

Bye CJ…grab Kurz & M.Will on your way out.

Marco vs Morrow is the wrong question. they’re not competing for each others minutes. Marco is vying for minutes vs. Monta and Jamal.

I think the W’s are going to trade either Monta or Jamal + extras in a blockbuster at end of season.

while Belinelli will pretty much stay at 1

It not Morrow vs. Marco. We need both. It’s about Marco vs. CJ… Marco 100 times more! Marco can defend, pass, shoot. CJ has been better lately, but the guy cannot pass. Cannot create.

belinelli will develop into a more efficient crawford.. and we should trade either crawford or magette while they still have value.. we can get a pretty solid veteran big man at 10-13 million a year.. or we can try to slang him off for a draft pick or expiring contract…

now that michael redd is off the market… i’m sure playoffs teams will be calling our front office for some scorers..

I would much rather see Morrow and CJ play than Beli.

I chose Morrow, I love that dude.

If I had to chose one over the other, I’d rather have Morrow. We already have too many guards and Morrow plays well at the 3. Belinellis is a 1 and we have several of those already. I’d rather see Bellinelli traded over Morrow.

tl;dr
has anyone suggested making marco the second string one guard behing crawf
and morrow the second string two guard behind monta?

I guess when you’re used to watching Crawford, Jax and Monta play the 1, you start to think anything is possible.

The guy has good handles, he has good court awareness and decent vision, and he gets the game, so he makes nice passes. That does not make him a 1. It makes him a good passing 2 with some playmaking ability.

Can you imagine him trying to guard 1’s? That’s a scary thought. Can you really see him running the break or getting the team into half court sets? I can’t. He’s a euroballer, he’s good in a movement offense but he is not a 1.

And Monta still has a long road back, it seems. It might take a while just for him to get his 2 guard game going again. Much less begin the trasition into a “real” 1. So, do we move forward and assume he’s our 2 of the future, which would require us looking for the 1 of the future? Do we cross our fingers and give him time to develop, which might not happen until mid year next year, if he can come around? Do we try a stopgap measure of bringing in a backup passing 1, who can play alongside Monta until Monta takes over? Do we just go with our current methodogy of trying to put a bunch of passers on the floor with no real 1? Or do we move Monta in a trade?

Contracts and lack of rings make it impossible, but after watching last nights game, I wouldn’t mind have Kidd playing alongside Ellis for a couple of years getting 20-25 minutes a game. Don’t think he’ll sign with us for the MLE next offseason, though.

But I want Belinelli when he is back.

the more I want to include Beli with JC or CJ to get a real PG. What is the point at having so many ‘decent-good’ level PG’s? What we need is a GREAT PG that can lead this team out of this mess of a season. I really liked Beli’s intensity earlier this season, but I just don’t feel like he has potential to be one of the best PGs.

As for Morrow, he will flourish even more once we get a real PG, the more he can just catch and shoot the better he’ll be.
As far as I’m concerned, the kid’s a real keep.

Morrow is better to have because the Warriors needed to rebuild their backcourt with Baron leaving last summer. If I chose to have Marco Belinelli, the Warriors will have too many swing players at which players can be losing minutes.

Kudos to the crew who created GSOM, much much much love, particularly in 07. Im born and raised in SF. Been a Warrior fans since 86, when Jordan entered the game. They and the Giants, are the only teams that I will follow through and through no matter what. From TMC, to Sarunas, to the Webber era, to Spreewell, Starks, Gatling, DFish, Big Vic, and the much missed JRich, and the Baron. Its been a lot of good times. I have come to realize, that if 2007 marks the best the Warriors will ever achieve, then thats ok with me. Because I was there at Jillian’s in the Metreon, during the playoffs with an over capacity, fire-hazard crowd, all frenetically cheering with patient tears in their eyes at the hysteria and sheer unbelievability of the best situation in sports, albeit America, the underdog was kickin ass. And I will never forget those three magical weeks, which was MY championship. Always be proud of them, because they typified the SF Bay. Always innovative, fearless, strong, and never say die. Luck just doesn’t seem to fall their way. Too many ridiculously close games. So please, no more talk of trade, you will never get there if all you do is the quick fix. Sports is such crap these days, no loyalty. Alright I’ll shut up now. Thank you for this.

I think Morrow will develop into a very fine off the bench shooter while Marco seems to show more all-around potential.