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Let us face reality, our team sucks. Our season is pretty much over unless we make a big splash before the trade deadline but I doubt it. Look at the bright side though, the way things are going, we might have a top 10 or maybe even a top 5 pick.

Here are the 3 guys I think will fit right in and the Warriors should take a long look at if they are still on the board in next years draft:

1.

Greg Monroe, F/C, Fr., Georgetown
Monroe has so many tools for a big man that the Chris Webber comparisons were inevitable. He can shoot, handle the ball, pass and get up and down the floor. While there were questions about his work ethic and drive in high school, his strong play for Georgetown has quieted those concerns.

 

His stellar game against UConn and lottery prospect Hasheem Thabeet Dec. 29 pushed him into the Top 5. A few scouts have him as high as No. 3. And one NBA exec has him as the No. 2 player on the board. If he continues to improve as the season goes on, he's the one guy on this list that could challenge Griffin for the No. 1 pick

2.

James Harden, SG, So., Arizona State
Harden was under the radar for much of 2008, but his play has been stellar this season. He does virtually everything well and reminds many scouts of Brandon Roy. Harden looks like one of those players who will be able to contribute immediately in the NBA and projects as a surefire Top 5 pick. Many scouts and executives have him as high as No. 2 on their draft boards.

3.

Brandon Jennings, Italy
When scouts watch video of him in high school, or watch him in practice in Italy, Jennings looks like a Top 5 pick. He's blessed with great athleticism and virtually every skill you want in a point guard. But he's been a disappointment when he's on the floor in Europe. Chalk a lot of that up to a difficult transition from high school to Euro ball. But some of that uncertainty is starting to weigh on his stock. Jennings still looks like a Top 10 pick at the moment, but there isn't a consensus like there was in June.

 

What do you guys think about my 3? And do you think we should "tank" the rest of the season to make sure we get a high pick?

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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i would pic jrue holiday

by gswfan1 on Jan 3, 2009 10:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Monroe

This guy shows the physicality that we need in a PF. He also plays for Georgetown which focuses on defense and rebounding. I think this guy is ready to fight like Horford for Atlanta.

by terryteagle on Jan 3, 2009 10:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

haven't seen him

but doesn’t this guy average like 5 overall boards in like 27 or so minutes?

by the evil monkey on Jan 4, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From the Dec 31 draftexpress entry:
[Monroe] gets a bit lackadaisical at times, though—bringing back shades of his high school days with the lack of energy he shows—something that shows up most often on the glass, where he is doing a pretty poor job at the moment. Monroe ranks as one of the worst rebounders amongst all big men in our database, gathering a paltry 7.9 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted, which is an extremely disappointing rate.

They write a lot of nice things, too, but that bit’s enough to make me seriously curb my enthusiasm. A young tall skinny lefty with some serious flaws in his game? You don’t say!

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 4, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ack

just like 2002, this is the kind of year that the W’s will actually move up to like 2 or 3 in the lottery (instead of in a yr like 2003).

if only we could trade our pick for a ray allen type and move AR or BW plus salary for a KG type…

i have this sinking feeling that no matter where we land or what we decide, it’ll probably end up being some sort of blunder. when it comes to the draft we’re like charlie brown being duped by lucy while trying to kick a FG.

by the evil monkey on Jan 4, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree

If we could only get a star(s) for our picks and young guys, that will lure really good vets willing to come and play for the min. just to be part of something that will give them a chance to win. guys like zo, pj brown, the glove, mailman, or something of this nature. i know there are more but it’s kind of late and im having a hard time thinking of those names

by Somar on Jan 4, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the fantasy would be

trade the 1st round pick + salary for a SF who has proven 3 pt shot, athleticism and rebounding like a Danny Granger or to a lesser extent, Rudy Gay or even Lamar Odom.

to pick up Boozer via AR + salary (Maggette? Crawford?) in a sign & trade.

Monta, Jack, Granger, Boozer, AB… w/ Turiaf. maybe not contenders, but we’d at least see the playoffs for some 5 seasons.

or if i were to dream some more, Artest would not resign with the Rockets and we’d pick him up for the midlevel to be our 6th man.

by the evil monkey on Jan 4, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please no Boozer Movement

I don’t want to pay this guy so much money so he can end up sitting behind the bench for half the season. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great player but has a history of injuries just like Maggette.

by Somar on Jan 5, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Artest

can we handle another very low percentage doesn’t-know-his-limitations player on offense?

by SFzig on Jan 7, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Blake Griffin

I know he’s not mentioned, but Blake Griffin from Oklahoma is clearly the top big man in the draft, but I think he’ll be gone. I also think Harden will be off of the board. Monroe may be the way to go. It’s still too early to tell.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 3, 2009 10:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he wont be gone

If we have the first pick

by pbra17 on Jan 4, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

how do you plan on catching the Thunder in losses or are you just planning on some lottery luck?

by sam23 on Jan 4, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

EIther way we'll need lottery luck.

The worst team only has a 25% chance at #1. From there the odds descend pretty gradually:

25%
20%
16%
12%
9%
6%
4%

Also, some people here seem unclear on the concept that, regardless of where we finish, our chances of getting #1 pick are almost identical to our chances of getting the #2 or #3 pick. If we’re going to fantasize about Monroe, why the heck not fantasize about Griffin? Are we so inured to losing that we can’t even dream high anymore?

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 4, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

or

if we luck out in the lottery. what were chicago’s odds last year? less than 1%?

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 3, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah like 0.5%

or something crazy like that

Monta! Montaye! Montae!

by Baked Biedrins on Jan 3, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DEMAR DEROZAN!

check out his highlights. he’s ready to go

by yaydummy on Jan 3, 2009 10:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Demar Derozan

He was ballin’ with P. Miller’s son, Romeo, on the same team. I think they were the P. Miller All-Stars. Now, they’re at USC together if I remember correctly.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 3, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Derozen needs to stay in college. He’s shown little thus far. Although i’ve heard he’s improving.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 12:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of early but

We should get a PF, maybe a PG if the right player is there, so Monroe and Griffin would be best. Nothing against Harden but he wouldn’t be as valuable to the warriors considering the make up of the roster.

by T-Money on Jan 3, 2009 11:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ricky Rubio!!!

or Blake Griffin

We Believe 2.0!
I know the Warriors are a lot better than the way they're playing right now.
They just have to get healthy and dig deep. THERE'S MORE TO THIS TEAM.

by RunNdGun on Jan 4, 2009 12:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jordan Hill!!!

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jordan-Hill-1222/

I like that mock draft.

Trade up. 2nd rounder + Future first rounder or something to be in a position to draft Darren Collison or Eric Maynor.

Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.

by StSaints408 on Jan 4, 2009 3:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol

knowing us we are gonna get a bad pick and get stuck with Tyler Hansborough. will be like when we got dumbleaveme

So I don't have a signature well these words would do! Who knew that upgrades can have downgrades too!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Jan 4, 2009 6:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

we should just trade our 1st round pick for like 3 2nd round picks because we have more success in the 2nd round ala Arenas and Monta

by Somar on Jan 4, 2009 7:52 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Or we could just trade away all of our picks

so we can just pick up those fantastic undrafted rookies and bury all players with upside on the bench!!!

"beans"= the worst nickname ever

by dubshoops on Jan 4, 2009 8:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rubio is most likely not going to declare, but if he does by board looks like:

Griffin
Thabeet
Jordan Hill
Jennings
Rubio

Hasheem "The Dream" Thabeet or Brandon Jennings. A Warrior in 09.
With the 6th Pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the SF Giants pick Donovan Tate.
Andre Smith in Silver & Black in 2009.

by ejdacanay on Jan 4, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The ESPN Insider writers seem to think otherwise. Although it’s been widely stated around rumor mills that Rubio stated he’d wait until 2010 (at the earliest), they’ve reported on more than one occasion that with him widely being considered as a top 3 pick, agents will find a way to get him into the draft.

My Big Board:
1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Monroe
4. Holiday
5. Harden

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i know a dominant pf is what we need

but we got b wright and then randolph last year so i would rather draft a point gaurd

by hoopscorer23 on Jan 4, 2009 11:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

There's a problem.

1. Look at where all the money is tied up on our roster. PG, SG, SF, anc C all have guys that are making a sizable amount of money at those positions. The only position we have some flexibility is at PF. We have Brandan Wright and Anthony Randolph there who could be used as trade chips. We’d get more value in return if we traded either + the pick for a veteran or a higher selection.

2. This year’s PG class outside of Rubio is not so great. There’s depth, but not a true impact player at the position. Next year’s class will be anchored by John Wall, Rubio if he doesn’t declare as well as young PG’s in the NCAA this year who probably shouldn’t declare this year: Kemba Walker, Willie Warren, Jrue Holiday, Tyreke Evans. All these guys could use more experience at the college level before they declare. Look at the rapid rise of Russell Westbrook from his freshman and sophmore seasons.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i guess, but i still disagree

yea there is no lebron or rose, but holiday looks good, as does jennings, eventhough hes not putting up huge numbers in europe. and patty mills should really be looked at too. and i dont really understand your point about our forwards not making money. are you saying you want to trade wright or randolph? if so, we still would have one of them to play power forward.

by hoopscorer23 on Jan 5, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, since Wright/Randolph have no long albatross contract (like Jackson, Maggette, or Crawford), and are still young and have upside, they are simply more valuable to other NBA franchises than our vets. We’d get more value in return if we package one + 1st rounder for an impact player, or a higher selection.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jennings

is a baller. but how tall is he????
i know he has hops out of this world.

he is pretty dumb for going to rome instead of college

by cjwatson23 on Jan 4, 2009 11:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jennings

He isn’t doing too well over in Europe.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 4, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In Europe

They switch the starters every day and they play all the players on there bench…. He’s gettin mature over there playing with better talent in Europe than college. He’s not getting the baby treatment like most of the freshman on campus’ here in the US and he is actually learning how to be a better overall basketball player. His coach said he is one of hte most talented players and when he learns how to do things like playing defense and running the team he will be a very special player (At least before he resigned lol)

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Jan 4, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

pretty much

though i’d be concerned with his lack of size (compounded by the fact that he’d be paired with Monta) and that so far he hasn’t shown the ability to shoot the jumper very well (based on stats). per draftexpress, he’s supposedly had some difficulty finishing in Europe, so he could end up having the same problem here… i’d be concerned that he’s in the Augustin down to Mike Conley range.

by the evil monkey on Jan 4, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree

Having Monta & Jennings in the backcourt would be disatrous for us. So if we get keep Monta and we can’t get a PF, drafting a big SG would be the best thing for us and than trade Jamal and somebody else for a Landry/Milsaps type player. A DeRozen, Terrance Williams type of player (200+ SG w/ a shot) or wait til the 2nd round and draft Jeremy Pargo that would be good. Pargo can easily mold into Baron #2 with his size & athleticism.

Be yourself, because everybody else has been taken.

by The Dedication on Jan 5, 2009 2:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nellie's a loser

and he (NOT some puke in the front office) will, as usual, draft yet another useless addition to the idiocy that is nellie ball.
if there is someone in the draft who is 7’ 3", 160lb, gobbles up an incredible 3.2 rebounds per 40 minutes, and thinks he is a 3-pt shooter (but his 21% says otherwise)—THAT will be nellie’s pick.

by nelliehater on Jan 4, 2009 11:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

assuming griffin is gone

i’d love monroe. he seems like the perfect fit. of course, speculating at this point is tough. we have no idea how these guys will look a few months from now, or our own draft position. we’ll see how everything shakes out, but it should be interesting.

it sucks to already be talking draft.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 4, 2009 12:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Monroe has a pretty simliar skill set to Randolph...

Only he has a “little” bit more size and ost presence. I see him being good later. But let us all be realistic. Nothing in this draft will help us until 1-2 years down the road.

The most finished players in the draft are the people with Raw athleticism. I was looking at Derozan as well, and the kid has serious ups, but he is a scorere and not defensive

by shooter1525 on Jan 4, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

everything i’ve seen and heard about monroe seems to indicate that he’s the anti-randolph. he’s not at all a freakish athlete, he’s really fundamentally sound and relies on touch and good decision making, but isn’t a great rebounder (which sleepy mentioned few posts up from here, and is a big concern, so that’s something to watch out for). they both have good handles for big guys, but other than that…

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 4, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you. From looking at that G’Town V. Uconn game, Monroe schooled Thabeet on a number of times. He did it with more finesse than with raw athleticism. He’s also a pretty good passer and dribbler. Thabeet couldn’t handle him on the perimeter.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya but...

Monroe was bullied around my DeJean Blair, a muscular 6’-7" – 250 lb PF from Pittsburgh. Sure he can take it to Thabeet a weak 7-3 250 lbs center, who’s only asset is shot blocking. Also, in all that schooling he did of Thabeet he only posted 16 pts, 3 rebs, 4 ast, 3 stl and 0 blks. At least against Pitt he posted 16 pts, 8 rebs, 2 ast, 1 stl, and 2 blks. That said his man Blair, who he did guard a majority of time went off for 20 pts, 17 rebs, 3 ast. 1 stl and 2 blks.

Now, don’t get me wrong I think Monroe is a solid prospect, and perhaps the best freshman in a weak freshman class in the 08-09 season, but don’t get all in love him just yet. IMO he’s B-Wright 2.0 or maybe 1.5. Look at his negatives, aren’t they the same things Nellie gripes about Wright and Randolph being?

Here is Chad Ford’s take on Monroe
Draft Projection: Top 10

Jan. 2 update: Monroe has so many tools for a big man that the Chris Webber comparisons were inevitable. He can shoot, handle the ball, pass and get up and down the floor. While there were questions about his work ethic and drive in high school, his strong play for Georgetown has quieted those concerns.

His stellar game against UConn and lottery prospect Hasheem Thabeet Dec. 29 pushed him into the Top 5. A few scouts have him as high as No. 3. And one NBA exec has him as the No. 2 player on the board. If he continues to improve as the season goes on, he’s the one guy on this list that could challenge Griffin for the No. 1 pick.

Positives:

  1. Big man with NBA body
  2. Excellent athlete
  3. Lefty
  4. Long, 7-foot-2 wingspan
  5. Can score from anywhere
  6. Good jump shot
  7. Strong back-to-the-basket game
  8. Excellent ball handler
  9. Quick first step
  10. Basketball IQ

Negatives:

  1. Doesn’t play hard
  2. Indifferent
  3. Poor defender
  4. Needs to add strength
  5. Lacks toughness

Summary: On talent, Monroe is a lottery pick. His indifference in high school had scouts concerned, but John Thompson has gotten the best out of him, allowing him to skyrocket up the board.

A Sonics fan without a team.. Though I'm auditioning GS Warriors this season.

by mcwalter44 on Jan 5, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but DaJuan Blair is also older and more experienced in the NCAA, wheras Monroe is playing his first season. Also Monroe isn’t even the first option on his team. They have DaJaun Summers, Chris Wright and Austin Freeman who all can put the ball through the hoop.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait.. older?

Wait a minute Blair is 19… and Monroe is 18… so your telling me that Blair being having one year of college ball one him made a difference. What’s next that all the “older” players in the NBA got the best of him because he’s so young?

A Sonics fan without a team.. Though I'm auditioning GS Warriors this season.

by mcwalter44 on Jan 5, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

age seems like less of a factor in that one than just getting worked. i still think he’s a good prospect in a weak draft. it’ll be important to see what he does over the course of the whole season (improving rebounding, dealing with stronger guys, etc) as opposed to basing his ability on two games versus thabeet and blair. if guys like blair beat him up every time he plays them, that’ll hurt his stock considerably. if it was just one bad game, it’s not something to worry about. we’ll see which was the case in the next few months.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 5, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm i guess i thought Blair was older than 19. But one year of college experience does indeed make a difference. It also comes down to that inner desire in a player to grab a board. That’s something still missing in Monroe’s game. With his body i think he could be a great positional rebounder, like Al Jefferson. That should make him a good defensive rebounder, but he’s really underwhelmed thus far. He’s by far not a sure lock to be an impact player, but if he can adapt to the pro game quickly with his size, body and skill set (Looks to be more fundamental on the offensive end than AB, Wright or Randolph), i can see him playing the high post in our offense, with AB on the low block. Remember last year, Nelson and Mullin wanted Chris Webber to be that high-low guy and playmaker. Monroe isn’t the perfect prospect, but he could fill a need at the 4.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if..

with his size and skills, imagine if monroe wanted the ball off the boards everytime like ronnie??

by Somar on Jan 5, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He’d probably look a lot like Al Jefferson 2.0 then. Or AJ lite.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

for what it's worth

monroe looked great on the boards against notre dame tonight. 21 and 10, hitting it hard, even did one of the old “i’ll chuck it up and grab my own rebound when i miss” shots. big fray around the basket, so he fires up a shot and then just powered into postion for the easy putback. good stuff. we’ll see if he keeps it up.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 5, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

Having Summers, Wright and Freeman doesn’t excuse 3 rebs in his “breakout game” against UConn. Agree GU has weapons, but that isn’t what’s holding him back like Jeff Green, George Hibbert and Patrick Ewing Jr before him it is John Thompson Jr’s Princeton style offense that lowers points per game number. I’d also argue it inflates ast numbers.

A Sonics fan without a team.. Though I'm auditioning GS Warriors this season.

by mcwalter44 on Jan 5, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

blake griffin is a white amare

seriously. if we got him we’d be set.

by HoLdEmUP on Jan 4, 2009 5:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Griffin's bi-racial.

Totally agreed on the second part. From what I’ve seen he looks like a more athletic, more aggressive Boozer.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 4, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

If Tiger is black… Griffin’s white.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 4, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If Tiger's black, Griffin's black, no?

If Griffin’s white, Tiger’s Thai/Chinese/Dutch.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 4, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

?

I have not been lucky enough to catch Griffin’s play yet. i’m wondering if he’s more than just about dunks? Does he have any moves down low? hook shot? jump shot?

by Somar on Jan 4, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

one caveat

Boozer weighed like 260 in his pre-draft measurements. Griffin is listed at 235-240, but AR was listed at 220 and it turned out he weighed 197.

obviously still consensus #1, but it’d be interesting to see what happens if Griffin doesn’t measure well ala Beasley and Rubio actually ends up declaring like Chad Ford insists he will.

by the evil monkey on Jan 4, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Right Now

we have about a 6.5% chance of getting the 1st pick.

by duballers23 on Jan 4, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ill take it!

6.5% aint bad at all!

by HoLdEmUP on Jan 4, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

bulls + luck of ping pong= rose

Didn’t the bulls have a smaller chance at number one last year?

by Somar on Jan 4, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow, we waited til NY to start a lottery/draft-watch!

well, had hoped we’d’ve had a chance at Thabeet last year at 14

we need to pick BPA no matter what, picking bigs to meet a need didn’t work so well for us or has everyone forgotten?

by hardcore on Jan 4, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

BPA for sure, every time, all the time

My impression from what I’ve seen and read is that Griffin is the clear BPA at #1. The fact that he happens to be the “True 4” our team has needed forever is just a bonus.

I’m not sure whether my earlier comparison to Boozer is that apt … he doesn’t have nearly as refined a post game as young Boozer or Malone (though those things tend to develop). On the plus side, I think he’s more of a aggressive physical beast than Boozer was/is. He seems to absolutely love to push people around inside, and even though he’s “only” 240, he seems to have the preternatural strength and athleticism to do it. A better comp than Boozer might be a bigger version of Barkley or a smaller version of Shaq. We’re talking upside, but still … he seems to me like just what the Warriors’ doctor ordered, and a bag of chips.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 5, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

every time, all the time

might be a bit too cut and dry for draft night. griffin is the clear bpa, it seems. no one else is really entering the discussion, so he’s gotta be number one no matter what, but beyond that, it’s fuzzier. i’m a big fan of the tier system, because you have a much better idea of who you can lump together in draft pools than who is clearly better than everyone else. the tiers don’t have to be huge, but if you narrow the tiers down to 3 players or so and grab the one that can help your team most, that seems like a better strategy. you just never reach for a guy on a tier below someone who’s available.

quick rundown of the tier system for those unfamiliar:

let’s say when the warriors are drafting, harden and monroe are both available. harden is 3 on their board and monroe is 4, but it’s close, so they’re on the same tier. you take monroe because of the abundance of guards on the team, the fact that monrow would fit a need, and because it’s impossible to say if that small amount of extra something that puts harden ahead translates to the pros perfectly. if monroe’s gone and it’s harden vs tyler hansborough, you grab harden because it’s clear that harden is much more likely to be a successful pro.

that’s how i’d do it, but i’ve never made a successful draft pick in my life. i just watch on tv.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 5, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's how its done.

GM’s use tier systems and select from the best fit from those tiers. Last year for example, Rose and Beasley were the only two in every team’s tier 1. Tier two had OJ Mayo, Kevin Love, Eric Gordon…etc.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

JRU HOLIDAY

thats the man we need, if we dont get blake griffin

by gswfan1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jru looks like the next version of

Stephen Jackson. He is not that great of a ball handler. He averages 2 turnovers to 3 assists. So why do we need him again…

by shooter1525 on Jan 4, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His numbers are depressed because he’s playing next to Darren Collison. From what i hear from UCLA fans, Jrue is playing out of position at the SG spot. He is most effective with the ball in his hands. His jumpshot is shaky right now, but hopefully it’ll improvement.

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 12:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but if he doesn't has the ball in his hands as much..

and he is still getting almost as many TO as Assists there is a problem.

by shooter1525 on Jan 7, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft

I don’t think we should tank this season. The upcoming draft only has a few NBA-ready guys such as Blake Griffin, James Harden and maybe Ricky Rubio if he decides to go this season. As many of you know, the worst record in the league only has a 25% chance of landing the No.1 pick. Ever since the lottery came into effect in the league, the team with the worst record has won the No. 1 pick only 2 or 3 times. LeBron James and Dwight Howard were the top prizes in their respective drafts with Cleveland and Orlando both respectively reaping those benefits. This draft year obviously won’t be like 1996 or 2003. The best players in this year’s draft with probably be in the Top 5. We have the 6th worse record in the league. Maybe a couple more trades will shake things up for our team.

by Phil T28 on Jan 5, 2009 1:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hoopsworld
Who do you think will be the better NBA player- Greg Monroe or Blake Griffin? Monroe has more star power and skill, but Griffin is the better athlete and rebounder. He is also tougher. Who do you think has the better upside of the two?
Bill Ingram:
Star power in college is one thing, but toughness often translates better to the NBA. Look for the Warriors to make their way to the top five and select Monroe – he’ll fit right in with their big men who all need to add 30 pounds of muscle. I’d take Griffin, who looks like he might have seen a weight room once in his life.


Hoopsworld

Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.

by kenntoe on Jan 5, 2009 5:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

HELLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO

Greg Monroe is so boring.
If we draft Blake, we’ll destroy his career.
Knock on wood when I say this, but Jennings might become a Sebastian Telfair.

I'm going to get banned for all these mindless comments.

by CatchAndShoot on Jan 5, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No one

In the draft is worth it. Its pretty weak, and if there is someone that will be good coming out of the draft, not even jesus himself would be able to tell you.

Right now Blake Griffin is picked to be the #1 so far. Dude he is NO WHERE NEAR Michael Beasley status and that guy cant get minutes over some undrafted center that they have. He is too small for the NBA, and his game is big. Blade cant even do half of what he can.

Ricky Rubio is awesome. But he is not coming out.

THe rest is a bunch of Troy Murphys.

If we can, I would trade the pick, even if it means for cash. I mean we got SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much youth right now, we need more vets to mentor.

Not like anyone will listen, but I will say again.

Were a VERY young team, and we will need time to develop. So expect another season AFTER this one of no playoffs.

Again just be glad that were competing.

If a YOUNG team with KOBE BRYANT cannot make the playoffs, neither can the Warriors young team. So stop feeling like were underachieving or something ridiculous like that.

Oh and lets get on management for something worth a damn, and that is, WHERE THE HECK IS OUR MASCOT? NEW JERSEYS? Better be good!

by sjboy on Jan 8, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

nellie's a loser

and the clear solution is to can nellie, then sign a PROVEN player, not some “can’t miss”.
hell, chris bosh will be available after next season (and maybe sooner), and there is NO WAY IN HELL, that he will sign with the same team as lebron—contrary to what the jack-offs at espn keep telling you—nor would lebron do this either. both would want SOLE credit for being the one to bring the knicks, or whatever team, back to prominence.
and without the idiocy that is nellie-ball, bosh actually could make a huge difference with the w’s.

by nelliehater on Jan 9, 2009 9:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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