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Warrior VS. Lakers

Tragedy hits home once again. It is tough to see a team with so much talent fail so miserably. It is one thing to be a fan of a loosing team who is bad, and another to be a fan of team who is good but has gotten used to loosing. Unfortunately, the warriors seem to fall under the category of the latter. 

Consider these stats. Corry Maggette goes 2-5 in free throws. Paul Gasol goes 9/9. Biendrins makes a bucket for the LA Lakers. Paul Gussol gets two wide open dunks: one from a missed rebound from Maggette, another from a tip by Azebukie. Are they that unlucky, or are they just used to being losers?

I can't recall a single game that the Warriors have come back in the last 5 minutes to win the game this year. Not surprisingly, the opponents seem to come back against us in countless games, including this one.

This team makes turnovers when it is most dangerous to do so. They play hard and crash the boards for 90% percent of the game. The 10% we let up happens when it matters the most, like when you need a stop towards the end of the game. The amount of offensive boards that we give up towards the latter stages of the game makes it seemingly impossible to win.

I can only hope that the Warriors are as tired of these lame performances as the fans are tired of seeing failure from the Bay Area teams. 

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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Gotta live with it though

I don’t expect us to get a high lottery pick. I’m just hoping a true pg falls into our lap at whatever pick we have. Get mad all ya’ll want, but I believe the pieces with the exception of a pg are there. Of course, health too. All teams have injuries. It’s just the contenders play through it. Now if you’re out of it like us, of course they’ll take some time off because it’s not worth jeopardizing their health in the long haul for really nothing to play for.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 12:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
It is one thing to be a fan of a loosing team who is bad, and another to be a fan of team who is good but has gotten used to loosing. Unfortunately, the warriors seem to fall under the category of the latter.


What gave you the impression that we are a good team?

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jan 9, 2009 12:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

we arent a good team.

we dont have our best player on the court all season.

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Jan 9, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i believe those are lyrics from the song lost hawks by andre nickatina, which this guys apparently likes a lot.

can’t blame him, andre nickatina is sick, and that is a sick song, if you like rap check it out

by montamazing on Jan 9, 2009 4:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's Dre Dog, Right?

I’ve heard one song I like. It starts out with “I smoke chewy like a motha fu__kin nut.”

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's got so many more jams

Buy “I hate you wit a passion” and " Raven in my eyes" NOW!!!

by Gurthy on Jan 9, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't listen to him a lot

but every time I hear something of him, I admit he’s hella tight.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I say we're a good team

We’re just not winning. But that’s my opinion. We have lots of guys that can hoop. Let’s see, who’s the first to put one of my first 3 sentences as a reply title? If Skeptic sees it first, I know he will be. The race is on…

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

for some reason I thought good teams were teams that win games.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 1:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what I'm talking about

You buy into records. I meant we have a good team, not we have a championship contender. What’s with all the immaturity and sarcasm on this board?

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What’s with all the immaturity and sarcasm on this board?

Ummm….

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Sorry, I wasn’t aware there was a “question.” I thought it was just your usual MO: whining, talking about yourself, attacking anyone who disagrees with you, spouting off mindlessly, and acting like anyone here could give one half of a rat’s hindquarters about your “opinions.” THE WARRIORZ R A GUD TEAM CUZ I SAY SO!!!!

What is it Clint Eastwood said about opinions…?

A friendly piece of advice: no one here knows you, or cares about you. The only way you’ll ever earn a grain of respect and credibility on this site is to listen to and engage other people’s views and back your own up with some good ol’ solid logical arguments. The early returns aren’t promising, but keep at it. ;-)

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's fine

Because I don’t know you either, nor do I care if you’re alive or dead.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You mean it wouldn’t weird you out a little if you knew I was conversing with you from six feet under?…

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not really. i believe in ghosts.

You believe that ghosts can use computers and would spend their time at GSOM connversing with you about whether or not the Warriors roster is getting as much wins as it can with its given talent?

Now thats wierd…

What is the status of our petitions to fire Robert Rowell and have Chris Cohan commit Hari Kiri, or at least sell the team?

by warriorsscore110 on Jan 9, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My god you guys belive anything

Look up sarcasm if you don’t know the meaning.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Believe

Actually there it is. My bad.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

whats with all the sarcasm and immaturity on this board though?

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Belive

There. I corrected my own mispelling because my guess is that you would have done so.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

this is one of the funniest conversations on here in quite some time.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha, directly following the “whats with the immaturity on this board” comment….. that is classic.

Oh, Golden Boy you may yet fill the emptiness that has existed in my soul since the departure of the dearly missed Iggy Cohn.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

hella funny!! go to the GSOM home page under the comments from Tim Kawakami’s article about Rowell and Cohan not deserving the loyalty of our fan base and look this guy up. I had a couple of back and forth’s with this guy. He thinks he’s the ish because he doesn’t “complain”, or “whine”. I told him that there’s a difference between complaining and making valid points. He said it himself that people are here at public forums to be able to express themselves and he’s trying to criticize people for speaking out. this dude is hella butt hurt! haha

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What is "butt hurt"

Is that some “hyphy movement” slang?

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that some "hyphy movement" slang?

Hyphy movement slang? Butt hurt is when someone gets all pissy about something. Butt hurt is you! Lol…just because you’re getting clowned on because you basically called everyone on this site out you think you could try to get back whatever little respect you may have had by retaliating and trying to sound smart. it ain’t gonna happen. i think you’re a joke and i’m laughing at how idiotic you sound. i hope you continue to make responses so i could just keep laughing. haaaaaaaaaaaa!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Butt Hurt:

someone who doesnt know how to take a joke, and they take the joke like they just took it to the @$$

Jenny tries to hide her low self-esteem by being cocky. when joe tells her she’s ugly, jenny gets BUTT HURT

He didn’t get his way so now he is all butt hurt over it.

Term from:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butt+hurt

A lot of times when I don’t get certain types of sayings, this is my favorite site :-)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jenny tries to hide her low self-esteem by being cocky. when joe tells her she’s ugly, jenny gets BUTT HURT

  Joe sounds like an asshole.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 9, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one

Who finds that term painfully homophobic?

Or am I just being “butt hurt” about it?

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 9, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d go with the latter.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

Pass me the Boudreaux’s…

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that you in the pic?

Trying to hide your cavities?

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dont get mad

i thought you were better than everyone on this site. why are you resorting to insults? it’s your last attempt to save face i understand but there’s nothing left to save. you just sound stupid now. sorry.

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude if anyone's mad, it's you

Calling me bandwagon just because I didn’t agree with ya’ll? But that’s okay. And I don’t know why you keep insisting that I think I’m better than everyone. That just shows insecurity on my part, because I never once said that. Sounds like you have personal issues to me. But that’s your problem. I know, it is funny. I should just let you guys be the ones acting all juvenile. I just don’t wanna cry about the state of the organization like you guys do. So, it’s all good. :-)

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

you’re such a funny guy. make me laugh clown!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You've proved my point

That you’re not a grown man like you claim to have been in that one laughable post. Kids want clowns to entertain them and make them laugh.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you proved my point

you really are a clown! hahaha

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(psst)

Actually, BSD, that quote should really be my new sig line instead of the one I chose. Only problem is, it hits a little too close to home… ;-O

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Have you been reading my diary?

"...OlympicMike is clearly the Barack Obama of GSoM"-Sleepy

by olympicmike on Jan 12, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i say we're not

Good teams have a winning record for one.

All NBA teams have players that can hoop, but a good team is where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Calling the Warriors a good team is just wishful thinking.

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jan 9, 2009 12:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well I say we're good

Sorry if I don’t agree with you, but that’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: but that’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.

I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 9, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

ROFL. I think I finally found myself a new sig line!

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well I say we're good

“Well i say we’re good and that’s that!” you sound a little girl throwing a hissy fit because no one agrees with you. Back up your statements and stop making a fool of yourself.

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hissy fit

LOL! I haven’t heard that word since The Brady Bunch… when Cindy lost her Kitty Cariole Doll!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 9, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

you like that one huh? hahaha this guys got his panties in a bunch! call him golden girl from now on. haha

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well, it didn't let me post it.

I don’t have panties in a bunch. But, from hiding your teeth maybe you got all kinds of stains in a bunch, perhaps? haha

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What????

i don’t get it…that aint me in the picture idiot. i’m from Frisco and that’s “ya boy” a rapper from my city. if you look at the picture, he’s got an SF emblem dangling from his chain. you really are a moron. that was a weak @$$ come back too. whatever, it was still funny. anything you type is funny. keep going!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

takes one to what?

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya' Boy!

VERY stoked for his debut album off of The Game’s label!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 9, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he's got a few mixtapes out

check em out. they’re titled:

Optimus Rhyme and the Bay Area Bully. This dude can rap but i don’t know if he can ever blow up because this whole bay area rap scene never gets any love.

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Our inability to win games and general on-court play disagrees with you.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Being good can be quantified with numbers, etc. In the case of an NBA team, your record especially will dictate whether or not you’re a good team. It’s not up for opinion like “i think apple pie is good, but that’s my opinion.”

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jan 9, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Paul who? never heard of any Paul on the Lakers.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 1:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

you mean this guy?

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jan 9, 2009 3:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no on prop 8

I'm going to get banned for all these mindless comments.

by CatchAndShoot on Jan 10, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

like a true laker fan, youre a little late

by sam23 on Jan 11, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

like a warrior fan

we lost

I'm going to get banned for all these mindless comments.

by CatchAndShoot on Jan 12, 2009 1:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya-hoooo!

Gay people don’t deserve the same rights as everyone else!! Say it loud and say it proud!

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 13, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And away we go.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 13, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Apparently not…

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently not…

  We’re all just too disgusted to comment and hope the white whale just crawls back into his hole

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 14, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So does that make you Captain Ahab...?

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So does that make you Captain Ahab...?

  Nope, I’m Tommo

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 14, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well good on Albino for at least avoiding the barrage of “harpoons” that was sure to reign down upon him. Even GSoM’s resident republican wasnt about to step in and try and back him on that one. Though I must admit, as socially unjust as it may be ,I do find the incredible irony in the fact that the huge minority vote turnout for Obama probably cost California liberals one of their most important issues just a wee bit amusing. Interesting that the nutty side of the religious right is still catching all the blame for this one even though the right itself obviously didnt control anywhere near 50% of the vote, not to mention the large number of strong fiscal and social conservatives, like myself, who dont align themselves with the church and voted no. Strange as it may seem, and as hard as it may be for liberals to accept, the blame should fall squarely on the left for this one. Or maybe the rest of California just decided to oppose Sam23 on everything. (Seriously, they may as well have just sent my ballot back to me with a giant FAIL printed on it.) Either way its really just delaying the inevitable. I’ll stop talking now that I’m sure I’ve offended every possible side of this issue.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

That’s the great thing about recced diaries: over time, they seem to keep sprouting new threads…

Agreed about the irony of the big minority turnout inspired by Obama helping to propel Prop 8 to victory. Pretty depressing, actually.

On the bright side, looking at the bigger picture: in America, the forces of intolerance and hate have tended, over time, to get trampled by the forces of fairness, freedom, and tolerance. Up until 1967, there were laws in our country that prohibited interracial marriage; how those laws seem ridiculous to all but a nutty minority. Hopefully, in 40 years (or ideally sooner) people will say the same about Prop 8.

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side, looking at the bigger picture: in America, the forces of intolerance and hate have tended, over time, to get trampled by the forces of fairness, freedom, and tolerance. Up until 1967, there were laws in our country that prohibited interracial marriage; how those laws seem ridiculous to all but a nutty minority. Hopefully, in 40 years (or ideally sooner) people will say the same about Prop 8.

I have my doubts. It seems to me that gay marriage holds a far greater “icky” factor for those who oppose it than interracial marriage ever did. (I apologize for the use of such a crude term with such insulting connotations, but it really is the best term I can use to describe the way the opposition I’ve encountered feel about it) I do think the legalization of gay marriage is inevitable long term, but I also think its a much bigger obstacle than most people, especially in the bay area, think its going to be. I could be mistaken though, perhaps the courts will again take an “ends justify the means” approach and we’ll be done with it in a couple years.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the great thing about recced diaries: over time, they seem to keep sprouting new threads…

agreed. the original diary isnt even all that great. Perhaps we just need some sort of biweekly open diary for any and all issues.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I kinda get the impression that the dopes frown upon the political and/or catch-all threads: IIRC, after those two crazy 500+ post political threads, the next couple of political threads posted were summarily deleted. I’m assuming these type of topics are what Atma has in his sweet little head when he calls me “Sleepy Flame War”… ;-)

Maybe you, me, JAE, Hardcore, Skeptic et al. should just exchange email addresses?

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

works for me. bloodsweatanddonuts too, that guy cracks me up.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, BSD.

Funnily enough, he’s one of the few GSoMers I’ve actually exchanged email with (along with Coma, OZ, and Atma, if you must know). He cracks me up too, as my sig-line attests…

Seriously, if you want to have a GSoM catch-all forum, you should propose it to the management. Of course I’d contribute regularly. I’d propose it myself, but I don’t want to jeopardize the uneasy peace I seem to have made with AB1…

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what happened to coma? is he going by a different name or has he just vanished? DubsfaninBoston is coming around less and less. Also Pree seems to have disappeared as well, though it does seem he’s moving up the ladder over at hoopsworld so maybe he’s just busy. If it is the quality of play keeping these quality contributors away we definitely need some OT forums because I dont see it getting much better anytime soon. If you, OM, Jae, BSD, Skeptic, and Hardcore take off itll get pretty boring around here. I’ll shoot Atma a message since it seems me, you and OM are all on board at least and I would assume Jae, BSD and Skeptic will be too.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm working...

And not really all that interested in continually regurgitating the same old tired “But AR isn’t the answer yet, and neither is Wright, Morrow, etc. Nor is it the veterans "fault” that we’re losing all these games…" mantra. Sigh. There really isn’t that much happening with the Warriors anymore. They’re losing because they’re young, injured, and young & injured. There is nobody we can even remotely trade and the youngin’s are up and down, which leads to “Hey, let’s trade Jackson for McGrady” trade proposals and “Hey Randolph had 4 rebounds and zero turnovers in the last quarter!!! He’s so frigging awesome!!!” That, and I’ve been traveling a lot, which always screws with my GSoM time. I’m still here, waiting in the shadows for an interesting discussion.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 15, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m working…

oooohh…..look at Mr. Big Shot here with the JOB. :) Actually I saw a couple comments from you over on the Celt’s SBN about Maggs earlier today and was glad to see you were still alive and semi-caring about the warriors still.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 3:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and I can actually see Atma and co.’s reasoning for not wanting political threads constantly popping up, but McCoveychronicles goes off topic fairly regularly (movies, pop culture, music, etc) with a fair amount of success. I dont see a huge problem with an open forum if it isnt always the same two idea rocks being bashed against each other like those political threads ended up being after the first 300 posts.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lately...

I’ve found the off topic stuff much more entertaining than the actual basketball discussion. However, that may have something to do with the quality of the product we are discussing. At this point I mostly come here to be amused by the same short list of posters that I suspect most of us skim through all the other stuff to read.

I think it would be great to have a community thread, or OT catch-all here. Of course I can see why the main writers would see it as a distraction. It would be cool if SBnation branched out a bit and started an official general discussion site that any of the main writer from all the SBnation sites could post their OT thoughts and the community could BS with one another. But again, the idea doesn’t exactly fit in with the business plan.

Thing 2

by olympicmike on Jan 14, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Argh.

And I forget to mention you, OM! Clearly I’ve come to think of us as one and the same.

By way of apology, I’m changing my sig (for today anyway).

Totally agreed that off-topic stuff would be a lot less necessary if the on-court product were more compelling.

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Traitor.

Watever happened to “Zorgon pleasuring Foyle”?

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 14, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: SBnation branched out a bit and started an official general discussion site

The whole interface and McSportsBlog thing was spun-off from this political website: http://dailykos.com/

Not very sam23 friendly though . . .

Or very me-firendly for that matter since I reject the idea of our current system and being aligned with either of the two evil political parties.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 14, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Atma and co.’s reasoning for not wanting political threads constantly popping up

I think they’re probably the most likely, of all the SB Nation franchise owners, to allow for this type of discourse.

Hell, they opened up a front page thread for the Palin/Biden debate. Also, the delve into the politics of basketball, racsism and class warefare which I don’t see in the other sites. At least Atma and djfuzzylogic do.

Then again, that’s still basketball . . .

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 14, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are we still in the Warrior land?

What happened to some basketball?

by Shells on Jan 14, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh!

I see you’ve sniffed out our little non-basketball- related den of sin. If you don’t narc on us to the mods, maybe Skeptic will let you have a toke…

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 14, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I rather not.

I usually let you men be….men.

by Shells on Jan 14, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I usually let you men be….men

   Than how do you expect us to ever improve?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 14, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(scratches balls)

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 14, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was hopin

  she’d feel sorry for me and cook me some meat.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Grunt

Meat!!!

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 15, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

make ?

   I don’t “make” my wife do anything. If I’m lucky she’ll feed me but otherwise I take it where I find it.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lololol

"They can trade me," Bonds said. "I don't think they will, though. It's not like I want to be traded, man. I'm a Giant. I'm stuck here till the end."

by GameSix on Jan 13, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm mortally wounded.

Nice handle, btw… ;-)

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry Skeptic and Sleepy are not offended

  I’m offended, my store is out of crabs. Did you eat them all crabdizzle?

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 9, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I say the Lakers are bad

Sorry if I don’t agree with you, but that’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.

by kyzah on Jan 9, 2009 9:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lots of idiots here.

and you’re one of them.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about calling you an idiot.

I shouldn’t have said that. Afterall, imitation is the best form of flattery.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay you guys...

My opinion is if you call a professional sports team bad, you obviously don’t know how to appreciate pro sports. Yes, there are teams that aren’t as good as others, but you’re calling a group of pro sports players awful? Can you as the judgers do any better than them? I think not. I mean they’re in the pros, and you’re not. Enough said.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Detroit Lions are terrible,

they would go 500 in the SEC. Heck I think my BOISE STATE BRONCO’S can give them a run for thier money on a good day.

What is the status of our petitions to fire Robert Rowell and have Chris Cohan commit Hari Kiri, or at least sell the team?

by warriorsscore110 on Jan 9, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion is if you call a professional sports team bad, you obviously don’t know how to appreciate pro sports.

  You gotta judge them by their peers. According to the standing the Warriors are not the worst but are pretty bad. The Lakers are on top however . Now if you took the bad warrior players and the good laker players and all the other players in the league and put them in a pot you’d have a big mess.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 9, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why? You can't cook?

Worse case scenario, they’ll all get burnt.

by Shells on Jan 10, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why? You can't cook?

      Depends how hungry I am :>)

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 10, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but we are great “judgers”

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahah

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Jan 9, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

are you judgering us as bad judgers? I judger that you dont really understand that when we say a team or a player is “bad” or “not good” we mean relative to other teams, not relative to ourselves.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

therefore EVERY pro sports franchise is a good team, no?

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"...if you call a professional sports team bad, you obviously don’t know how to appreciate pro sports"

For what it’s worth, I don’t think anyone is contending that professional athletes aren’t amazing athletes (even those on teams such as the Lions). I think the contention is, on a relative basis, some pro teams are terrible (relative to others in their respective sport at the same professional level). The same can be said for the "Golden Boy" Oscar DeLaHoya, while still a terrific boxer vs. the rest of the general population, he looked terrible vs. Mayweather, Hopkins, and Pacquiao.

Calling people idiots doesn’t seem necessary, in my opinion.

by All That Glitters on Jan 9, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just apologized to him

Didn’t you read that? It’s just irritating how I’m expressing my opinions, and they mock me and get sarcastic and all that childish b.s., but yeah, I shouldn’t stoop down to their level then. I’m better than that. My apologies to you as a reader then.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No one cares!

Enough posting trying to defend your feelings. Just give some hard Warriors notes and leave it at that. Your original post is becoming a waste because of too many nonsense comments.

On that note…

Warriors ARE a good team. And I get what your saying. The losing bug has got the Warriors, and no matter how “good” they may play, in the end they expect to lose, so they will.

They need a shock to the system that will get them out of the losing habit.

They need to get shot with a little Mississippi Bullet. Bring Monta back and here is what you have.

Perfect Nelli Starting lineup.

Monta – Slasher, Playmaker
Crawford – Shooter, Playmaker
Jax – Shooter, Playmaker
Maggette – Slasher, Size, Freethrows
Biedrins – Garbage Man. Rebounder, Interior D.

This lineup may look limited to some of you, but Nelli will exploit Defenses with the 2 slasher, 2 shooter combo. Get ready for some exciting basketball once again. And did I mention W’s. Yes, we will start winning games as well

by Gurthy on Jan 9, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the playoffs is done for us this year

But I think we’ll still be competitive as hell once we have the full squad back, and we will carry that into next season with a hella good draft pick.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we’ll still be competitive as hell once we have the full squad back, and we will carry that into next season with a hella good draft pick

  Those two don’t go together. If we play better in the second have our draft chances get worse. We should break Montay’s other foot and play Kurz and go for the losses.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 9, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That literally made me lol.

Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.

by StSaints408 on Jan 9, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Our two "shooters"

Have career FG% of .416 and .403. The other three scrubs are at .495, .449, and .602. Something is amiss here…

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dont forget career “shooter” Belinelli off the bench.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The original "shooter" is offended.

RIP, Shooter.

-- That’s my opinion. Hate it or love it.
-- I’m actually going to dry-hump it if you don’t mind.

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well nobody measures up to shooter beck

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Armando Benitez demands an apology

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 9, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“oo” in shooter not “i”

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Point taken . . .

and save blown.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 9, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

id rather have

wright/randolph/turiaf at the 4…and maggs sub in at the 3…

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawk on Jan 9, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

My (provisional) starting 5, when Monta returns to full speed:

Monta
Azubuike
Maggette
Wright
Biedrins

With Craw, Morrow, Jack, Rudolph and Ronny coming off the bench.

Obviously it hinges on Monta being able to manage the point, but the payoff is huge: a starting lineup in which we’re actually efficient and actually not small at all five positions.

OBAMA AMABO

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 9, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would swap out Maggette with Jackson for two reasons

1. You can start Jackson defending the opposing team’s best 2 o3 with Azubuike defending the other. Otherwise you have no perimeter defense there.

2. Jackson can (if he wants to) pass and play within the context of an offense. Give everyone else a chance to get into the flow of the game. Otherwise you’re playing offense 4 on 5 with Maggette waiting around to run his favorite play (Pretend the ball is a ticking bomb and the only way to diffuse it is to throw it at the iron as soon as humanly possible). That play works better off the bench, especially if the offense is not scoring. He can come in the game and get to the line or score and it also gives the other players a breather on the offensive end since they’ll all be standing around watching.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 9, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like that lineup

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I shouldn’t stoop down to their level then. I’m better than that. My apologies to you as a reader then.

keep telling yourself that Momma’s boy oops i mean golden girl! you aint better than nobody. you’re a piece of $h1t. i just looked at your profile and you sound like you didn’t even graduate elementary school.

“The Warriors is my favorite team in all of sports. Scottie Pippen is all my all-time favorite athlete (Yes he never won a ring without MJ, but MJ never won a ring without Scottie.) Kevin Durant is my single favorite active player in the NBA. Just as much as I love the Warriors, I almost as much hate the Lakers. I hate most LA teams, but I’ll always support the Clippers for being 2nd fiddle out there.”

shut your mouth little girl and let the grown men talk about real sports issues.

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you call yourself grown?

You having to call me a bandwagoner just because I don’t think on your juvenile level is as immature as you get. And you call me a piece of $hit? Yeah okay, real mature. Plus making fun of me for being the more mature one. But, I’m not mad. Like I said, me trying to argue with you is like arguing with a first grader. But if you want to question my spelling, you should look at your user name. It’s dat? Wouldn’t the proper word be “that?”

And the first one to get pissy was you. I didn’t comment what you said, you comment what I said. Dude you must worship me. And you keep insisting that I think I’m better than everyone. So that must be the case. Lmao @ “grown men.” Seems like you grown men are having an orgy with each other, and are just mad just because I’m not partaking. Sorry sorry. I know, real immature on my part I’ll admit, but I couldn’t pass it up.

by Golden Boy on Jan 9, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All this band wagon talk got me feening for...

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 9, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Best gravy ever.

Reduce your carbon footprint, commit suicide.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 9, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the life of a warrior fan

they pump you up to break you down! don’t trip all this mess will be worth it when the warriors one day win a championship! i don’t know when that day will be but i hope they do it before i leave this earth haha!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 9, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i hope they do it before i leave this earth haha!

 Then you better eat right and get lots of exercise cause it might take a while.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nobody mind Golden Boy...

…his Golden Brains are still scrambled from being pwned by Pacquiao!

Anthony Morrow's jumper is so pure, he has to cut it with baking soda.

by dindin on Jan 9, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think he's a good fighter. But that's just my opinion.

I pray i never have to use a gun again...

...unless i'm at a strip club parking lot...

...and somebody tries to run me over with their car...

...But how often does that happen??

by ssmokinjoe on Jan 9, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

107 comments and no REC?!

LOL I added mine!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 9, 2009 10:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It must be the air we inhale.

The pollute air in LA does wonders.

Anyway, I agree with anyone that said the Warriors is a good team. Good team do good. They stay with the other opponent’s team. And don’t lose by too much points.

But it’s the greater teams that win. We, are not yet there. (someday)

And what is up with the men in this thread? Respect each others opinions. I can’t recall names and is far too busy to type up all those names..it’s like saying “XXX I think you’re mom is hot.” and the men goes, “What??!?! WTF? Why are you insulting my mother?” And I then I say, “I’m a female..that’s what we do; We give out compliments.” Even if it’s about your mom.

Accept that.

And I thought us ladies are drama. Leave that to us. C’mon, support the Warriors!

by Shells on Jan 10, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

what is up with the men in this thread?

   what’s wrong is most of them are kids :>)

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 10, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ahh..that explains a lot.

Have you ever heard the saying…“men needs to grow up?” Or was it, “men are just immature?”

Something…something like that.

by Shells on Jan 10, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Something…something like that.

  I’ve heard one about the size of our toys.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 10, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are no bad teams in the nba

There are good teams, and then their are great teams! Just like elementary school. There are no bad grades, there are only good grades and great grades. There are no losers, only the last winners. I think I get what the warriors are now this season, its all starting to come together for me.

by kyzah on Jan 10, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE THE LAKERS

MORE THAN THE WARRIORS

LAKERS ARE MY FAVORITE TEAM EVER

LAKERS FOR LIFE

EVEN IF THEY GO 0-82

THEY’RE STILL BETTER THAN THE WARRIORS.

I'm going to get banned for all these mindless comments.

by CatchAndShoot on Jan 10, 2009 11:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LOL! Dang!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Jan 10, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nellie's a loser

and the lakers would still be better than the w’s for that very reason.

by nelliehater on Jan 11, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you know what

i agree.

I'm going to get banned for all these mindless comments.

by CatchAndShoot on Jan 12, 2009 1:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At this pace..

the Warriors are bound to win how many games? 30 if they’re lucky.
I don’t count on 30, i wish they would have some kind of huge winning streak but that’s near impossible with the team they have now..

by AlbinoWhale on Jan 12, 2009 4:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

30 if they’re lucky.

 If they are lucky they won’t win another one all year. The game now is lottery picks.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 12, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The game now is lottery picks

That same old story, thought we were past that. Looking at our draft history so far, I think we’ve had better success in the second round. Maybe we can trade our 1st for 4 second round picks. And looking at this draft is kind of depressing. I just wish we weren’t so good, then maybe we could win some games.

by jmaaan on Jan 13, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone keeps saying this isnt a strong draft after Griffin, I disagree, I think it has the potential to be a pretty strong draft class.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 13, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nellie's a loser

so the warriors’ draft position is irrelevant.
nellie’s pick (yes, HIS, not some fo puke’s making half his salary) will be yet another tall, skinny, non-rebounding “shooter”, who will be banished into bench-ridden obscurity by the idiocy that is nellie-ball.

by nelliehater on Jan 14, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You've seen directly to the heart of Nellie's maddness

He deliberately drafts players who he can just stick at the end of the bench instead of all those game ready players that are available everywhere in the draft every year. nelliehater for GM/Draft guru/Coach!!!!

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 15, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He deliberately drafts players who he can just stick at the end of the bench

  That’s probably why he wins just enough games to keep us out of the lottery? He don’t want to deal with the high expectations that come with a top pick.

Till I get free
I live my life in the Walmart
Cholesterol chasin me

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IMy concern about this draft is threefold. First, that several of the players who are listed on mock drafts may not come out. Second, there are a lot of very raw players in this draft. And third, there seem to be a lot of combo guards and skinny 4’s available.

I know you draft for talent, not position, but I’d really like to see the W’s get a quality backup center, a player who is big and can rebound. We get killed when Biedrins isn’t in the game and I think a larger 5 would compliment him well. I’d also like to get a playmaking point guard and a young 3 with good size and overall skill set. You don’t have to draft those players, you can trade your pick or draft a player who is redundant and trade one of our existing pieces.

But without Oden/Durant/Horford; Bogut/Williams/Paul; or Rose/Beasely/Mayo top of the draft, it’s less exciting this year. I for one am not sold on Griffin.

by jmaaan on Jan 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why aren't you sold on Griffin?

I’m honestly wondering, as I’ve still only seen him in highlights and YouTube clips. To me he looks like every bit the surefire pro that Beasley was, and then some — bigger, more aggressive, higher hoops IQ, better rebounder, more efficient from the floor. What’s not to like?

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 15, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems to me that Beasley being a “disappointment” (because he isnt putting up 20 and 10s nightly) seems to have lowered the draft stock of Griffin among fans. If Beasley were a stronger ROY candidate I think a lot more people would be excited about Griffin. I think Griffin is better than Beasley actually. I think he does more to make his team better than Beasley did.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 3:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think people aren't sold on Blake yet

because he’s not as polished offensively. Beasley shot the college 3 with ease, and as a result was basically unguardable. Blake has a serviceable offensive game, he’s got a nice baseline spin, but he’s doesn’t have any dependable offensive moves. He’s a much better defender, rebounder, and hustle player than Beasley was, he just isn’t as smooth offensively. He’s gonna be a solid big for years.

by rjnarayen on Jan 16, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

37

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Jan 13, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nellie's a loser

so the team will win several meaningless games in march and april, thus providing fleeting and false hope for next season. unfortunately, nellie will still be the coach.

by nelliehater on Jan 14, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahahaha

Young Frisco Hard Hitter all about the Skrilla!

by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 15, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LqZqEDKgFw&eurl=http://www.examiner.com/x-441-Golden-State-Warriors-Examiner~y2009m1d13-Monta-Ellis-does-5on5-scrimmaging-for-first-time-sin

by AlbinoWhale on Jan 13, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm.... don't get what you're looking at

Are you saying he’s an evil nefarious man who sneaks into the other teams huddle? Are you saying that he lifts his foot in the air and you think he kicks Monta even though Monta doesn’t react and even if he was kicking Monta it wouldn’t have even remotely hurt anways?
You’re worse than Kawakami.

"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 15, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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