Monta's Monster Game
by Naticus2 on Oct 10, 2009 2:19 AM PDT
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I kept telling myself during Monta's absense, "He shot 60% for an entire month, as a high volume shooter. That's better than any guard has ever shot in the history of the NBA." However, as a fan of defense, I couldn't stay excited about him, no matter how many times I told myself that. I have to say, though, I am officially excited about him after last game.
Somehow, Monta looks more handsome than Curry now. What happened? via cdn.bleacherreport.com
At the same time, I'm trying not to get too excited. We didn't make the playoffs two years ago, and not because of a weak offense and not because of a moped. Our perimeter defense, including Monta's, has been horrendous. That is not an overstatement. But last night's win was sweet, savory goodness after the bitter pill that was Wednesday's preseason game. Monta was practically unstoppable. I can't say his defense was great, although I definitely wasn't disappointed either. I'll be watching if he keeps up the intensity on that end of the floor.
Looking at Randolph's +/-, it appears his presence made a big difference. Biedrins' rebounding was fantastic, too. We ought to not forget our guys who compete every moment of every game. Nellie also pointed out Azubuike has been impressive defensively in practice as well. We can't win without the effort these guys put in and for which they will never get enough fan appreciation.
That said, Monta was fantastic. I am officially optimistic about him and again see how many more wins we can achieve with this speed demon, who rode out of hell on a flaming moped. Questions remain. What do we do about the fact that Monta will never be the passer that Curry is? How will the Warriors utilize their respective talents, when defensively, they're undersized and could be taken advantage of? Personally, I am not going to worry about that anymore. Let's let them play and have a very fun year with both of them entertaining and contributing, hopefully competing to outdo each other! (Unless, of course, someone makes an offer we can't refuse). Maybe Monta's offense will be so demoralizing to opponents, their overall play will diminish on both ends. Hey, ya' never know.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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didn't watch first half :(
so i missed the competitive play of the 1st unit. however, it seems that spreading minutes around will allow the warriors to finally become a dangerous team that no one will want to face. NBA is the ultimate grind. you can no longer take a game off like the celtics probably did against us last season. effort and intensity is the differentiator. so, if our 2nd unit led by curry and law can continue the frenetic pace while monta and jack are on the bench, this could be an exciting brand of playoff small ball for 82 games. 10 deep rotation with defensive specialists shutting down and frustrating the big scorer on the other team like yao, nowitski, or aldridge. interestingly, last night we finally saw what nelson likes about law. if he can knock that shot down, he can get wherever he wants to on the floor.
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by eshock on Oct 10, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
10 deep rotation with defensive specialists shutting down and frustrating the big scorer on the other team l
We’re gonna trade for some defensive specialists?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 10, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lulz
but we already traded for d.george!
jack, turiaf have that potential if they didn’t need to score as much.
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by eshock on Oct 10, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we already traded for d.george!
Is George for real? I’ve never seen him on the court?
I remember him from old laker games so I think I’d recognize him, looks sorta like a big Stimpy?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 10, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your act is very weak and misplaced on days we win.
by crab dribble cocktail on Oct 10, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your act is very weak and misplaced on days we win.
yeah, I had to cancel it on that one day back in 1975
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Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 11, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deaven George was supposed to be the "Baron Stopper" for Dallas back in 07.
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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 10, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deaven George was supposed to be the "Baron Stopper"
Excuse me for not noticing that
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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
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At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 11, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt watch the first half...what channel was it on? I coulcnt find it
by Only In Fairfax on Oct 10, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A few thoughts
Get Jackson off the team NOW! He is a cancer, he will only bring this team down, I can’t stand to even watch him play anymore. Trade him for a new mascot and a hot dog stand, whatever just to get his sorry ass out of a warriors jersey! Monta was ridiculous! Fool can flat out score, he still knows how to rebound, and although his vision isn’t great, his athleticism does open up shots for others at times. Acie Law was very suprising. He has some handles, can drive a little, dish the rock, and it looks like he can score. Kinda makes things confusing though with CJ coming back, plus Claxton? And Curry, man its exciting to see him in a Warriors jersey! His shot doesn’t seem to be falling, although it looks like they are good shots. But, the kid knows how to play basketball, plain and simple. He’s got good handles that will only get better, his vision is there (I’m thinking of the pass from the top of the 3 point line to Mikki Moore for a nice dunk in the 3rd quarter I believe,) and he definitley tries on defense, something that can’t be said for many on this team. Add in Morrow, Randolph, Biedrins, and hopefully Wright in the future, and I think the Warriors have got themselves a nice little core. Obviously some tweaking is needed, but I am so excited for this season, it will be a lot better than last one’s, I can feel it. GO WARRIORS!
by Pearlsofwisdom on Oct 10, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so excited for this season, it will be a lot better than last one’s
An asteroid hitting the earth would be better than last season.
Standing on the moon
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Standing on the moon
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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 10, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you can see how much better our team is with monta!
on tuesdays game we were manhandled and lacked a consistent scorer. this game shows why we signed him to that phat contract!! and why we should keep him!
by leo2008 on Oct 10, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
must of killed you last night watching the W’s take your team apart.
by crab dribble cocktail on Oct 10, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
st of killed you last night watching the W’s take your team apart.?
They played the Yankees?
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Standing on the moon
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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 11, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Questions remain. What do we do about the fact that Monta will never be the passer that Curry is?
Why? 8 assist 2 TO in the time he played is amazing.
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by LostHawkGSW on Oct 10, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it was very good.
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by Naticus on Oct 10, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kept telling myself during Monta's absense, "He shot 60% for an entire month, as a high volume shooter.
Yeah, it’s amazing how he averaged 60% for the month at 26PPG. Crazy. People forget how good Monta really is, and how young he is.
Freakishly athletic for his size, one of the quickest players in the league, one of the best finishers in the paint, doesn’t have a three point shot but can score 36 points in a game without even attempting a single 3pt or FT shot (so imagine how good he’ll be once he finally gets some range), he’s quiet but he lets his game do the talking like Tim Duncan (but not as good as Tim Duncan), etc. etc. etc.
I mean, really, why the hell do people hate him all of a sudden? Because he said that a Curry/Monta backcourt would get eaten alive on defense? I actually think that’s a realistic statement. Also, he praised Curry after he finally got to see him play in the 1st preseason game; if he was jealous of Curry he wouldn’t be talking highly of him like that. He just wanted to see Curry play in an NBA game first before hyping him up like everyone else did.
Is it because he got injured in a moped accident? Okay, so that means we’re never going to ever forgive him for that? Why, is it because the 08-09 season was the Warriors only chance at winning the NBA championship or something? Did that moped accident permanently ruin our franchise, that’s why we can’t forgive him? Or is it because Monta is a ghetto tattooed black guy from the hood and these haters are racists that would rather have a “good black guy” like Curry because Stephen’s from the suburbs?
Really, what is it that makes people hate Monta so much after he used to be such a beloved member of our team?
I have nothing against Curry, either. I love Curry and feel he can be a great player for us. But that doesn’t mean that just cause we have Curry i’m going to turn my back on Monta and act like he’s an evil person. I still appreciate what that kid brings to the table.
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by Precise Films Productions on Oct 10, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
+1 Rec'd
Big ups to:
I still appreciate what that kid brings to the table.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Oct 10, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Monta hadn’t been out all last year, we wouldn’t have had the #7 pick this year. Can’t complain about that. Bygones are byegones.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 10, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate Monta
he’s my favorite player on the Warriors after Randolph, it’s just that he is not to much of a PG. Ellis is a very good player, but if he can’t be a good player as a PG and Curry continues to impress as a passer then we really shouldn’t keep him.To me either Curry or Ellis will be our future at the 1 and if Curry gets the job, there will be no place for Monta because he would be too small at 2. But if Curry is plays terrible his whole career in GS then i would be glad to keep Ellis.
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by GSW9 on Oct 10, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ellis had 8 assist 2 TO
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by LostHawkGSW on Oct 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His athleticism alone makes it so that he can create for team mates
Friday’s game was proof. It was awesome.
by FishStix on Oct 10, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked like a pretty damn good point guard to me, and he whooped Derek Fisher. Not to mention Fisher is a pretty solid defender.
by duballers23 on Oct 10, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won that game because they weren't looking for their own shot.
If it wasn’t there they were swinging the ball. I noticed they would only take the less than 7 second shot if it was there. If it wasn’t then they would get Monta or Curry to ISO and pick n roll which is the way I like it!
by bojangles408 on Oct 10, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why can't we keep Monta and Curry?
i c a bunch of u guys sayin we can get rid of monta if curry is the real deal and i wonder why on earth would we want to do that? First off our offense doesn’t require a true point as much as it requires willing passers. monta’s speed can make up for his lack of true pg skills because of our style of play. now i imagine most of u feel that in crunch time they can’t play together and i can see that but if we have, ammo and buike for size at the 2 all on the team for the next 3 seasons why can’t curry be our 6th man/back up pg for the next 3 seasons. we haven’t even seen them play a month together yet some of u think we can’t win with them as a backcourt? slow up, slow up! ben gordon spent 5 years as a sixth man, i’m willing to bet curry could handle it for 3 years if needed for us to be a winning team. after this season we will know what the next move will be but lets not ruin this excitement that a curry/ellis backcourt will bring before even getting a glimpse of what it could be! Can’t wait till this season starts, it’s gonna b Fuuuuuunnnnnnn!
by pre10d on Oct 10, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The issue is that Curry and Monta don’t complement one another particularly well. If the right offer comes along, moving one of them might be smart.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 10, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it isn't
Why can’t Curry be like a Jason Terry? Ellis is a budding star and Curry will be a very solid player ,trading one just cause one can’t start is stupid.
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by dubzfan on Oct 10, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading one for equal value makes sense, obviously. By definition, equal value is worth it.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 10, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think Curry will be better then Ellis?
Or that if your trading for equal value why make the trade?
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by dubzfan on Oct 11, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You trade for equal value in individual-talent, but you try to get a player that is more complementary. If you have a great starting point guard in either Ellis or Curry and then you trade one for a player of approximately equal talent at a more needed position, you make your starting lineup that much better. Also, I never said Curry would be better than Ellis.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 11, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if your trading for equal value why make the trade?
Cause equal value doesn’t mean equal identical talents. Say we can trade Curr-bury for a big defensive capable point like Boom then we can get the best out of Montay at the 2 spot? We lose the little scoring point but enhance our 2 spot. The big and little guards might have equal value but it’s different type of skills, some other team without a Montay might need the little guy more than they need the big guy so they trade him? The other way to go would be equal value for Montay and keep Curr-bury but we’d be speculating more on that one cause we don’t know how good the little Curr will be? Say we trade Montay for a bigger 2 and maintain about the same offensive firepower but then Curr-bury turns out to be another Wright we’d be worse off?
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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
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At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 11, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what you guys are saying may deprive us of a great 6th man
A big two or a big point could come in free agency, the draft, d league etc. And we could just start Morrow if we wanted a big two. I just don’t see the use in trading two young players with tons of potential. If the right offer came along then sure pull the trigger but just see how there potential fills out then make judgments on if one should stay and the other leave.
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by dubzfan on Oct 11, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im going with the sexy pick, no homo
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by gametime_gsw on Oct 10, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Too early for trade talks.
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by SPREEE4THREEE on Oct 11, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see that scrappy, annoying defense drom the Warriors this year.
Where they bother the opposing ballhandler with their double teams. Similar to what was happening towards the latter part of the 2006-2007 season. They’d get beat repeatedly in one on one situations.
by ZaMzAm FiRe on Oct 12, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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