Kings to SJ? (unreliable source)
One of my best friends dad works for the city of San Jose and he said Sacramento Kings is going to come to San Jose for at least 1 year before they are bought out by a new owner as we all should know by now the Kings are being forced to move out. It's already in the works so he says but for sure the Kings are going to be in San Jose for at least a season.
Yes I know it's not a very reliable source but I know his dad and he isn't a person that would say BS. Anyways I don't think I'd really mind if the Kings came for a season or two because I wouldn't mind seeing Lebron or Kobe two or 3 times more a year in the Bay. But who knows? Maybe if the Kings do come here and SJ sees that it can be a successful caterer to Professional Basketball they'll make a hard push to bring the Warriors! It's wishful thinking but for reals if the Warriors did come to San Jose it would be full capacity every single game since SJ is the dead center of the Silicon Valley.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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Warriors in sj??
I don’t think the dubs will be better in sj.. Oakland is deadsmack in the middle of the bay and right across from the city. Having it in the city as another option would be the next best option. But oakland is best. ThE bay bridge is the heart of the bay so keeping it as close as possible would make more sense. That’s just my opinion. More urban city than suburbia sj.
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by JustSomeName on Oct 18, 2009 3:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
you can caltrain from the city to san jose
and you can amtrack from the easy bay into downtown san jose
btw, we are talking about the kings
the Kings are being forced to move out.
How are they being forced out? The sacto fans are great and always turn out for games with their cowbells. They might want a new arena with more expensive seating but that’s not being forced out, that’s just being greedy and disrespecting their fans.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 18, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
They aren't being forced out
The Maloof’s own Arco and the land on it. There isn’t a lease with the city, but they’ve already said they won’t apply for relocation at the deadline in March ’10.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
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I want the Warriors to be the only Bay Area team
but having the battle of the bay in the NBA would be cool though
Fear is the Mind Killer
still works
the good thing bout the warriors is that their name isnt all specific lik la or sactown so as long as they stay in the golden state theyll still be GSw lol
by slackersphere17 on Oct 18, 2009 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
Yup Warriors is all over cali
San Diego to the Bay to North Bay. As long there is a Golden State Freeway which is Highway 5
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
This thing is so funny
I just pooped all over myself laughing. The Kings ain’t coming. Keep the dream alive, yo!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
I live fairly close to downtown,
even if the kings play in the Shark tank, I would only go to their games when they play the Warriors.
This would be a stupid move for the kings, the nba, and the city of San Jose.
80+% of NBA fans in the 408 are Warriors fans, the rest are composed of Lakers fans, as well as an assortment of fans who support other teams. Sacramento’s fan base doesn’t stretch out to far past the county of Sacramento. People from Sac would feel burnt and wouldn’t bother driving down here for games. The arena would be empty on most nights.
There would be Kings home games where the overwheling chants of “Let’s go Warriors”, or (god forbid) “let’s go lakers” would fill the arena.
This would result in the demorilization of the Kings franchise, and players, it would also make San Jose look like a weak sports market for anything that isn’t a winning hockey sqaud. This would ultimately result in the cancelation of plans to move the 9ers and A’s to Santa Clara and downtown SJ, respectively.
If they want to move the Kings, they’d get better results if they moved to Reno or Las Vegas, or even Seattle. Regardless of it being a temporary move or not, the fact remains, there is only one team that the majority of baksetball fans in the 408 cheer for, that would be our Golden State Warriors!!!
Sac's fanbase extends well beyond Sac County
San Joaquin, Yolo, Placer, A lot of Norcal, parts of the country both north & south of Sac, and part of the East Bay (Fairfield, Vacaville) and that kinda thing. The area is quite big, but the people are not nearly as vast as what the Warriors territory in the Bay Area is.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
What's so bad about Arco anyway?
I’ve always thought it was pretty decent, the game is what matters not how fancy the building. Are they trying to kill their fanbase by talking about moves? Is that a get a better offer in some other town strategy?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 18, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a very long complicated answer
The reality is that Arco II is 21 years old, and the Maloof’s have been complaining about it all decade. They have tried multiple ways to get a new arena, and none of them seem to work right now. The current plan (even though it’s likely to not succeed at this point) is at Cal Expo where the State Fairgrounds are at.
San Jose is a ruse, I suspect, on the part of people in SJ who want a NBA team to call their own. There are multiple problems with this on a number of levels. The Maloof’s are business people; they view the Kings as a business and unless SJ makes them a substantial increase in long term money I don’t see what’s in it for them. SJ would probably, and I say probably, for the Maloof’s to move them into SJ do the following: Pay for a new practice facility, pay the territory rights fees to Cohan, and pay the NBA relocation fee. That’s probably 300 million dollars give or take 25 mil on either side. (I’d bet Cohan would probably get 100 million for the territory rights.) Additionally, now they would have to have a TV deal set up as well. Is that there? Plus, the Maloof’s own Arco II as it stands now, and they own the land (just as important) along with a Practice Facility (on the property next to where Arco II is) that is all theirs.
Unless SJ ponies up a lot of cash, AND UPGRADES their facilities, you can forget getting the Kings.
Anaheim has the same issue, and I don’t think either place (Anaheim or SJ) is that conducive to a winning team beyond a token rivalry that most Bay Area fans don’t give a rat’s ass about. I imagine this would only be worse in Socal. More importantly, and I think a lot of Bay Area fans don’t realize this,I’m not from the Bay. I could care less about any Bay Area rivalry, and so do a lot of local Kings fan who grew up on the team because they WERE the local team. The Bay Area has Cal, Stanford, the Niners and Raiders, the Warriors AND Sharks. Sacramento has the Kings. Which is why the Kings have always had such a staunch following. (Not to mention that a lot of people in Sac do root for the Bay Area teams already.)
Besides, I have no interest in supporting a Bay Area rivalry when I’m from down 80 miles down the road and have heard nothing but snotty and snobby remarks from uppity Bay Area people. Frankly, the moment the Kings move to SJ, I’m done with them. I’m almost done with the A’s (I’ve been a fan since of the A’s since the late 80’s), and I get really tired of the arrogance that the Bay Area is the only place for the A’s. (I wouldn’t mind supporting them if they moved to Vegas honestly. I have never considered the A’s my “local” team but my favorite baseball team that happened to be closer than other teams I could have latched onto.) Especially when over a 100 + history, there STILL has been more time spent in Philly than in Oakland up to this point. Which doesn’t even count the 13 year stop in KC.
I think KC is a bad bet because the Kings would lag behind KU basketball (and Mizzou as well) with the locals, along with the Chiefs and the Royals behind them. There are people in KC, like SJ, that want NBA basketball, but I don’t really think the local’s care that much. It might be something for a year or two, but beyond that I don’t think it will play. KC is pretty much what it is. I think you can chalk up St Louis in this category too.
Vegas periodically gets mentioned, but you can forget that also. They don’t even have an “NBA worthy” arena. Why would the Maloof’s move the Kings to Vegas without a reasonable NBA arena built or even prospects of one being built? Part of the NBA’s big dis-satisfaction with Vegas during the AS 07 festivities was how poor the reception was in Vegas itself. Combine that with poor facilities, and I think the NBA saw a lot of buzzkill in what they had privately saw as their “baby” up to that point.
Now, having said all that, I think the best option is Seattle. There’s a lot of private money here (I live in Seattle), and better there’s still a big market. Unlike KC, the Sonics generally did better over a longer sustained period of time than any other market team in the Seattle area (Mariners, Seahawks, and UW sports). That still resonates, and there will be some kind of attempt to buy a team and move them back up here. It might be the Kings, or some other team (maybe the Hornets). I don’t know. The Maloof’s haven’t publicly ever said (or even really privately intimated it truthfully) that they would sell the team instead of moving it. The reality is that they’ve given the city and the fanbase a few years before they sever their business with the Kings and move on as they did with the Rockets in the 80’s. (Apparently the Maloof’s selling the Rockets was to Charlie Thomas, in 1982, who in turn sold the Rockets to Les Alexander—the current owner—in 1993.)
Either way, the Maloof’s got the Kings pretty cheap all things considered, but they also inherited a lot of debt along with franchise ownership. I don’t think they want to move the Kings because they like the profit potential (tickets were in the top 5 of price for quite a few years earlier in the decade), and because they are one of a few entertainment choices in Sacramento. They know that, and that’s what they targeted the Kings. Until last season, they were making a profit on the team.
Now, what does that mean? I think if they do sell the Kings, it’s because they don’t want to spend all kinds of money to move the team. It’s not in their best interest to do so.
So yeah, you got my long answer. Hope that answers most of the questions.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
So yeah, you got my long answer. Hope that answers most of the questions.
Thanks. I visit Sacto quite often and it always seemed to me that the fans were very supportive of the team and that the Maloofs enjoyed the sport and not just the business part of it? I’m surprised to hear that they would want to move instead of just updating Arco if necessary, there’s lots to be said for keeping a tradition alive and building on past success. If the new young Kings look as good at the end of the year as they did in the preseasn game with the warriors the Sacto fans will not want them to leave and the Maloofs might start enjoying the sport again?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 19, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's about money for the Maloof's
As long as they’re making money, they’re quite okay with Sac.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Not up until last season they weren't
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
Not the first time i've heard this rumor...
I think alot of it is pressuring sac to help them build a new Arena. I’ve been to arco many times, it’s very outdated for an NBA team
I am so sick of San Jose trying to be big time
San Jose has SIlicon Valley – Fine, but you are late to the game. All the major sports have franchises set up alreadyy and there is no reason to move them.
Maybe the 49ers will move eventually, but that’s it, so just stop it.
by warriorsvictim on Oct 19, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions
I’m pretty sure a city which is the 10th most populated city in the nation with over a million people who live here and has one of the highest median incomes in the country has a legitimate reason why they would want and deserve a few more professional teams in the city. San Jose has more people with more money than any other city in Northern California. Stop hatin’.
by MullyHaircutDay! on Oct 19, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
But SF has all the history and iconic structures
San Francisco has been the most well known, for the longest, has the Golden Gate, Coit Tower, the TransAmerica building, Fisherman’s Warf, and a Hollywood reputation. Nationally it is thought of as the San Francisco Bay Area. San Jose really struggles because it is thought of as an extension of San Francisco. I can understand why San Jose would want to change that, hence seeking professional sports teams and pointing out their own distinct history and culture, but San Francisco casts a huge shadow even if it is technically smaller in a lot of ways (actually, its smaller size probably works against San Jose, because SF is less inclined to “let go” of the perception that San Jose and the valley are in some way part of it.)
Then again, Oakland has it’s own teams. It also has it’s own history and culture that has been brought out as at least somewhat distinct from SF, but I don’t know the history of how that developed. Oakland still sits in SF’s shadow, but it isn’t claimed as an appendage the way San Jose is, which allows it to have its own identity. Maybe getting more of its own teams would help San Jose break away and do the same thing, but I’m not too confident of that.
sacramento native Golden State Warrior Fans anyone???
i know there are plenty of bayarea ppl in sacramento area..i was wondering if the Kings move will they televise the Dubs out here in sacramento?…like they televise the sf giants, oak A, oak Raiders, sf niners, and SJsharks…hopefully they do so i dont have to get the nba sports package that cost hella..$170 to watch the dubs that are less than 100 miles away from the bay..damn kings!!!! GO WARRIORS!!!!!
DUBfan4life!!!!
Then move to the Bay Area where it's televised
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Maybe the they should run public service announcements- starring Francisco Garcia and Sean May (as the expected mother), warning of the dangers of big blue balls. -- JJham15 10/13/09
If you watch Sharks games.
You see how packed the arena gets for the home games especially in the playoffs. San Jose could be a very successful sports town if given another major team. The Sabercats (when the AFL still existed), Sharks, and even Earthquakes all have a loyal fanbase. If the Kings were to move to San Jose even if it was temporary I think they would draw a lot of fans to the games as we already go to other cities to watch the Giants, 49ers, Warriors etc. However as it has been mentioned by a few people here already when the Kings would face the Warriors in SJ I guarantee the arena would be at least half Warrior fans if not more. But as I said the Kings would get a lot of support in San Jose in my opinion.
by 49erEmpire on Oct 19, 2009 6:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
San Jose would be a perfect short-term stop for a team
I could see it ending up like what happened in OKC- city goes a little over the top for a team and then it leads to momentum down the line.
That said, the Niners, Sharks, and Sabercats should be enough for a while

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