Stephen Curry's future in Golden State as our PG?
Our Future Point Guard for the next decade??


I think i speak for alot of Warrior fans when i say i 'm very excited to see the growth and development from Stephen Curry. As GS fans we always talk about the high ceiling of our young PF in Anthony Randolph but we never really talk about the high ceiling i feel Curry has.
PG Ability: As we all probably know Curry is probably our best PG/passer on the team. Curry seems to have a natural feel for being a point guard. What we have seen happen alot in the preseason is when Curry is in, he seems to run the offense great. Bob Knight has said that Curry is one of the best passers to ever play the game at college and there have been many comparisons to Steve Nash. Don Nelson has been very excited about Curry from day one and expects Curry to be a 20 and 10 PG. Nellie knows how to develop guards so i trust himin this situation. We know Curry can score and pass but it's the other things(steals, rebounds, effort on defense) that have really impressed me. Also Curry has very good ball handling skills. He is a guy who you feel confident when the game is on the line to take care of the ball which is what you need in a PG. Another thing that has impressed me is his Basketball IQ. Curry is a guy who just knows the game really well. As a PG he has a feel for knowing where guys like there shots and what kind of passes to throw. There are times when Curry may throw a couple bad passes but you know that he is trying to get guys going and will only get better at that as he gets more experience in the NBA
Stephen Curry doesn't seem to be pressured at all with being an NBA rookie. From his dad playing 16 seasons in the league and just always being around the game he seems like he is made for the NBA. When he is out on the court he handles himself well and has alot of composure. With the media he always seems to say the right things and already have a reputation as a shooter so defenders will always have to account for him when he's on the court.
Still growing?: It has been reported that Stephen Curry can still grow, possibibly to 6'5. I know that that has a good chance of not happening but i didn't think Randolph would continue to grow and he is now pushing 7 feet so hopefully everything will work out. At 6'3 Curry is already a pretty good PG but if he were to grow to 6'5 that would make him a matchup problem and it would allow us to have a 6'5 (Curry and Morrow) back court in the future. Curry also has been in the weight room and looks alot stronger than when he was drafted and is bigger than what alot of people thought which allows him to finish more shots around the rim and become more of a finisher. Steph is also more athletic than i think alot of people know. Sure he is not as explosive as Monta, but he can elevate and what he can't do athletically he makes up in craftyness.

What do you guys think Stephen Curry's ceiling is. Is he just a role player or can he become a star. I think that within the next 2 to 3 years we are going to have to choose between Curry and Monta and while i love Monta, Curry has potential to become one of the best PG's in the game. I know Curry still has a long way to go but if Curry continues to improve i can see him putting up Chris Paul numbers as far as points, assits, rebounds, steals because he is very active with his hands and feet. That may be unrealistic expectations but a Warrior fan can hope. Curry has a good shot at ROY but even if he doesn't win i think with all the drama in warrior land we may have found our PG of the future this past draft. In the NBA you need a great small and big to be a great team and in Randolph and Curry we have alot to look forward to. We may not be ready to win alot now, but with the development of our future PG and PF we may have these to positions set for the next 15 years!
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He’ll be a better player at PG than Monta is, that’s for sure. Don Nelson might be a crazy old man but, he’s right about that.
"We Deserve"
by YaHeard on Oct 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
An eventual All Star....
Hopefully the Warriors don’t trade him away.
by SmittytheCutman on Oct 23, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bucher called Curry a smaller version of Brandon Roy
meaning he is a two that can handle the ball very well
by Kid Curry on Oct 23, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought they compare him to CP3
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by mykelala01 on Oct 23, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly say Mike Bibby
But I can see a small Roy.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
by dubzfan on Oct 24, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a great comparison
i can actually see a Bibby comparison
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by dubzero23 on Oct 24, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No! More like Jose.
You guys compare him to Bibby because of his looks. A light skin black guy. Please don’t mention Roy because he is not at that level. Roy has one thing about his game that not even Kobe or Wade have and that’s he gives people the business down low with his mean post game. He has the spins to both baselines, up and unders, back you down then left or right hooks. I saw him practice at Washington and it was a pleasure watching him practice his post moves with their big man, Jamaal Williams. As a guard, he’s in a league own with that one. curry is more like Calderon if you ask me. they are both efficient, can shoot the long ball, pass first, can get to the spots they want, and deceiving because they can take it to the hole on those bigs. I would have said a slower Deron Williams but he’s a herky jerky type of player. he does too many moves to get to his spot.
by Manute Said So on Oct 24, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Referring to Deron:
Maybe because he can’t beat people with his speed?
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by kenntoe on Oct 24, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
I don’t know aout you, but I see Kobe annihilate people in the post every now and then. His offensive abilities really know no bounds. Although granted, he has posted some flat out mediocre seasons as far as shooting the three is concerned.
by Zack Vank on Nov 7, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To honestly compare him to Mike Bibby is PREPOSTEROUS!
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by slamson on Oct 24, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so?
And per your other knee-jerk comments in this thread: what exactly is a “Chris Duhon type player”?
On the face of it, your opinions look ridiculous, but unless you explain the reasoning behind them it’s impossible for anyone to ascertain exactly how ridiculous. Single line, unsupported opinions of the sort you’ve been dropping here are, for all intents and purposes, spam. In the future, please try to provide some kind of support (statistical, anecdotal, physiognomic, astrological, etc.) for your half-baked comparisons, so other posters can have sufficient grounds to ridicule them mercilessly.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 25, 2009 4:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To ask for further explanation is PREPOSTEROUS!
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 25, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To compare him to Mike Bibby is PREPOSTEROUS!!
Mike Bibby as a rookie put up stats like 13 points a game, 6 assist, and 35 min. a game. To say Curry is going to put up those numbers is preposterous! Curry will be lucky if he even puts up half of those numbers, and besides he will not get 35 min a game. I compare him to Chris Duhon because look at his stats Curry will most likely put up similar numbers. Curry has a better j though. So there you go sam23 and Sleepy Freud! ; ) ps. Have a lovely night!
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by slamson on Oct 25, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly don’t think 13/6 is a totally unattainable ppg/apg goal for Curry this year, but you’re also missing the point. People making the Bibby comparisons say he could become a player similar to the type of player Bibby has been his entire career. They aren’t saying he will put up a stat line his rookie year that will be incredibly similar to the stat line Bibby put up. I think most people would agree that Curry has shown signs that he could transition from a guy who was a prolific scoring guard as the best player on his successful college team into a point guard at the NBA level with very good range and accuracy from outside who is also a fairly adept distributor and, while not the strongest defensive guard, is a guy who will at least be capable of collecting some steals and being a harassing presence on the perimeter defensively……….hmmmm, now what current NBA player does that sound like?
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 25, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I compare him to Chris Duhon because look at his stats Curry will most likely put up similar numbers.
“Because look at his stats…”
What did the English language ever do to you to deserve such wretched treatment and what did we do to deserve such a pathetic attempt at an actual explanation from you? “Because” would imply that you will follow with an explanation. “Look at his stats” does not provide an explanation, but is merely a call to look at ‘stats.’ It isn’t an explanation at all.
Upon looking at ‘his stats" (presumably Duhon’) you see a player who has been a pretty good distributor, who takes good care of the ball, but isn’t much of a scorer who, prior to this year, was sub par in efficiency. That’s actually what Duhon’s college statistics suggested, since he wasn’t much of a scorer there either. Curry was a very good scorer in college either via efficiency of scoring volume. Curry’s stats indicate as much, indicating that he was a high volume shooter who managed to get the ball in the basket. He wasn’t anything like Duhon in this regard. I’m not sure why you’d expect looking at his stats would provide real reason, but perhaps you can elaborate with an actual explanation.
And of course, ‘those numbers’ are superficial. PPG independent of shooting percentage isn’t particularly meaningful. I’d suggest carefully considering this when formulating your explanation.
by jae on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never hear him being compared to CP3 but he did practice with him in offseason
by Kid Curry on Oct 24, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry = Redick
according to PTI, “Mr. NBA” Wilbon was saying he better get his shot down, cause a scorers all he’s going to be…lol
by 123707THIZZ on Oct 24, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Curry actually has
PG skills and is more of a scorer than JJ was(scored in different ways)
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by GSW9 on Oct 24, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about a smaller version of Brandon Roy or CP3.....
But he kind of reminds me of a Chris Duhon type player!!! Just with a better jumpshot.
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by slamson on Oct 23, 2009 11:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
haha I hope hes 3 times better than Duhon
by Kid Curry on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He better not be Duhon!
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by kenntoe on Oct 24, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Photo!
Looks real good as my new desktop.
by breaker on Oct 24, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it’s just me but the way GSW introduced him following the draft was simply surreal and hinted that he was not long for the franchise … I know, the whole Amare thing was still in the air but that press conference just reeked of “he’s not going to be here long” …
by hardcore on Oct 24, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
First off just want to say that
this is a great post, very well written. Secondly, I hate comparisons I know they are fun to make but rarely are they ever accurate. We all remember Dirk being the next Larry Bird, haha yea not even close.
Steph Curry is Steph Curry that’s it.
by JLopez on Oct 24, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We all remember Dirk being the next Larry Bird, haha yea not even close.
Dirk’s career per 36 minute numbers:
22.4 pts .472 FG%, .378 3pt%, .872 FT%, 8.4 rebs, 2.6 ast, .9 stl, 1.0 blk, 1.9 to
Bird’s career per 36 minute numbers:
22.8 pts, .496 FG%, .376 3pt%, .886 FT%, 9.4 rebs, 6.0 ast, 1.6 stl, .8 blk, 2.4 to
I mean, clearly Bird was a much better player. Most people acknowledge that Bird was also a pretty good defensive player while Dirk hasn’t exactly excelled on that end so the gap is probably even quite a bit bigger than it looks in that stat line comparison. But can you really say that the comparison was completely off base? My first reaction when I look at those two lines is more “wow, Dirk has been pretty dang good” than “ha, and people were comparing him to Bird! Idiots!” ……Plus they’re both tall, white skinned, and drive women wild with their stunning good looks and golden locks so the two of them and Mike Dunleavy are pretty much all the same player in my book. ; )
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 25, 2009 2:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Especially Mike Dunleavy. He is more of exactly the same player than either Bird or Dirk.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 25, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tall and White I'll give you that
Sure Dirk hasn’t been bad by any means he is a very good scorer and pretty good rebounder. However, he doesn’t make his teammates any better like Bird did and has nowhere near the passion that Bird had. Oh and Bird won championships. Dirk had his chance for one but Wade outplayed him. Let’s not forget about his series against the Warriors where Jackson shut him down. Is Dirk an all star, yes, is he Larry Bird, Never!
by JLopez on Oct 27, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The championship is meaningful at times, but come on…Bird played with McHale, Parrish, Johnson, Ainge…that’s not a fair comparison to use Bird’s championships over Dirk, unless you’re going to argue Bird had some talent for playing with other talented players…
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
… true, but before any of those guys came around, Bird, as a rookie, took a Celtics team that had been 29-53 the year before he arrived to 61-21 (with no other major additions, unless you consider ML Carr major).
Nowitzki could barely even tie his shoelaces till his third NBA season, and even at his peak he never raised the level of his teammates’ play in remotely the same way Bird did.
No knock on Dirk, but I think JLopez got it right:
Is Dirk an all star, yes, is he Larry Bird, Never!
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I agree with that completely. I’m just tired of people using the “championship” argument without acknowledging all the other factors that go into a championship, like somehow one player alone is 100% responsible for it.
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like somehow one player alone is 100% responsible for it.
How dare you criticize Derek Fisher like that!
by jae on Oct 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got...
…all that veteran savvy.
by Zack Vank on Nov 7, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Celtics win any Championships
without Larry Bird? No chance in hell. Sure it helped that he had Parrish, McHale, Johnson, Ainge do doubt about that. However, it was Bird who put the Celtics over the top, he made those players even better than they were. He made the Celtics Champions. Dirk is not capable of doing that, let’s not forget that Dirk has had very good players around him. He had Steve Nash and never won a ring, he has J.Kidd, S. Marion, J. Terry and J. Howard this year which is a pretty good surrounding cast. Let’s see how he does.
Oh and Dirk has a great Center in E. Dampier hahahaha lol JK.
by JLopez on Oct 30, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the (inflated?) legend of Bird
There were other significant changes to the Bos team of that rookie season. They went from incompetence to excellence in coaching [Sanders, Cowens< Fitch]. The guard play improved, with Fitch making Archibald the lead. The season previous, Archibald was still recovering from a serious achilles injury in his first season with the team, and the coaches and Jo White (sent on to you know where) did not ease his transition. Also added at guard were the rookie G.Henderson, and later to boost the bench, Maravich. And the league in its wisdom and benevolence put in a major rule change that boosted Bird’s impact, if not his career.
by the.monk on Oct 27, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points … but I wouldn’t call any of those changes particularly “significant.”
They went from incompetence to excellence in coaching [Sanders, Cowens< Fitch].
Fitch was a pretty good coach — probably a lot better than Sanders/Cowens (whose incompetence I’ll have to take your word for, since I was a bit too young to pay attention to that kind of thing). Still: he never had any notable success when he wasn’t coaching Bird; and the Celtics were better after he left, with KC Jones at the helm. In any case, it’s rare that a Head Coach is as big a factor as people make it out to be.
The guard play improved, with Fitch making Archibald the lead. The season previous, Archibald was still recovering from a serious achilles injury in his first season with the team, and the coaches and Jo White (sent on to you know where) did not ease his transition. Also added at guard were the rookie G.Henderson, and later to boost the bench, Maravich.
Tiny was a bit healthier and better in 79/80 than in 78/79, but just a bit. Henderson was basically a non-factor his rookie season (14 minutes, 6.2 pts, 1.9 ast). Maravich shot lights out when he came on board (11.5 points in 17 minutes a game), but mustered a paltry 1.5 rebounds and 1.1 assists in that same timeframe; and only played 26 games. (I had actually forgotten that he was on that team, and I remember that season pretty well — it was the year I became a confirmed hoops nut).
And the league in its wisdom and benevolence put in a major rule change that boosted Bird’s impact, if not his career.
The three point rule that “boosted Bird’s impact” applied equally to every shooter in the league. And Bird only attempted 1.7 shots a game from beyond the arc.
Obviously there are a million little interrelated changes in any team from one year to the next that make the “Bird Effect” experiment impossible to control for with any degree of certainty. But the fact that the arrival of a rookie could add 32 wins to a team that had made otherwise incremental changes remains one of the more amazing hoops phenomena I’ve ever witnessed.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Height
He’s 21, not 19. I don’t see him growing very much, if at all.
by Reverend_Randy on Oct 24, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hormones are unpredictable
and athletes have changed rapidly, but we should not expect Curry to get any taller. When he stood next to Watson in the NO game, he appeared just a little shorter, and we all know that skill and body awareness can make up for inches in height or reach. What he does his first season will only hint at what he could become as a player because every game and different opponent will be a different lesson.
by the.monk on Oct 24, 2009 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well he is 21
but people grow at different rates. If the docter says he can still grow than there is always a possibltity that he can, and while it may not happen we can hope. It will definatly help his game.
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Curry-20pts,4rbs,10ast,2stl
Randolph-22pts,11rbs,3ast, 2blk
Morrow-18pts,5rbs,2ast,48 3pt%
Can't wait until GS make it to the PLAYOFFS!!
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by GSW9 on Oct 24, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
while it may not happen we can hope
Yeah , you can hope but why write a whole fan post of hopes and speculations? We’ll have a real reason to write about him after he puts in a full season with the club, then we’ll know if Montay was right?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 25, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point was
to see what everyone thought about Curry’s future no need to get an attitude man we are all in the same family here.
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by GSW9 on Oct 25, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we are all in the same family here?
Yeah but some of us don’t want to the family to look like The blind Homers of Dis-function junction..
Put in the facts of Curry-bury’s NBA career after he has a few to put in, or state your hopes for him but don’t make the hopes sound like facts. For instance
“As we all probably know Curry is probably our best PG/passer on the team. Curry seems to have a natural feel for being a point guard. What we have seen happen alot in the preseason is when Curry is in, he seems to run the offense great. Bob Knight has said that Curry is one of the best passers to ever play the game at college”
We don’t know that Curr-bury is our best passer, he’s never played a real game yet, you might think he’s the best passer but till he plays with the big boys it’s speculation.He might have a natural feel for the point or he might revert to his tweener past. We’ve seen him play good but we’ve seen guys like Tyreke Evans make him look average in comparison. and Bobby Knight might just be crazier than Nellie so that’s not good. Come back with a re-cap after the season and see how your predictions turned out?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 25, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t know that Curr-bury is our best passer
“We” may not, but the coaching staff seems pretty convinced.
Stephen Curry is consistently called the team’s best passer by coaches
Those guys have probably watched as much of Curry already (against NBA competition, in practice, summer league, and preseason) as we will all season. In preseason, Curry averaged nearly 8 assists per 36, better significantly better than Monta or Jack (the only semi-realistic competition he has for the dubious distinction of “Warriors’ best passer.”)
But obviously, feel free to remain “skeptical.” Do we also need to wait for Curry to play a full season to determine if he’s a good FT shooter?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 4:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In preseason, Curry averaged nearly 8 assists per 36, better significantly better than Monta or Jack
Yeah but Montay and Jax have proven they can play in the real NBA where Curr-bury has only played against preseason competition. He might do fine or he might be another Marco but why rush the decision?
Anything the coaches do should be subject to suspicion, are they doing it for PR purposes or because it’s smart basketball? Judging from our record last year and the way they manage players I don’t have a lot of faith in their choices.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that it’s dumb to attribute wisdom and intelligence to every choice Nellie and Co. make; at the same time, I think it’s overly cynical to attribute stupidity or crass PR concerns to everything they do. I prefer to take it case by case. In the case of Curry, what my eyes and the statistical trends tell me jibes very well with what Nellie’s saying.
The numbers players put up in preseason and college aren’t nearly as immaterial as you make them out to be. You feel free to “wait and see;” I can tell you right now that Curry’s a better passer than Monta, or that Tyreke Evans is a better rebounder than Jamal Crawford, that Blake Griffin and DaJuan Blair are better rebounders than Amare Stoudemire and Brandan Wright, etc.
And again: “Best Passer on the [Current] Warriors” is not that high of a bar to surmount. He’s competing with Monta and Jackson, not Magic and Stockton.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can tell you right now that Curry’s a better passer than Monta,
He can pass, so what? If Montay and I’z-a-blue-kitty for instance can win more games than Curr-bury and Montay then that’s what I’d want to see.
I don’t care about how many points we score or how we do it , or about the Curr-bury college record or his hype herd of fanboys. I just wanna see the best team on the floor and I don’t know how putting a rookie in charge can be better than a couple of proven players right now. Letting Curr-bury earn it as the season progress would make more sense, this seems like a Nellie power move against Montay if you ask me and we all know how those work out, we lose a promising player and start from the bottom again.
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Standing on the moon
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Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
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At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still...
…don’t understand this Curr-bury thing. I’m not being argumentative, I just literally missed the explanation as to why you call him this… maybe it’s a reference to the Cadbury candy company.
by Zack Vank on Nov 7, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
However,
after watching the game vs the Rockets it was clear that when Curry was in the game the Warriors offense was more effective. Curry is the only guy on the team that looks to pass first, and his ball handling is far and above Monta’s.
I undertstand when you say that Curry should have to earn it, but when it’s clear that he’s our best decision maker and best true point guard, why would you want him on the bench.
by JLopez on Oct 30, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Men don't continue to grow
…just not so much vertically.
by Jeremy Belvins on Oct 24, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Some people continue to grow until 25. My brother grew an extra inch by around 25, hitting 6’5".
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by Naticus2 on Oct 24, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah they can
everyone grows at a different way, even though it’s not common to grow at that age it;s not impossible
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Curry-20pts,4rbs,10ast,2stl
Randolph-22pts,11rbs,3ast, 2blk
Morrow-18pts,5rbs,2ast,48 3pt%
Can't wait until GS make it to the PLAYOFFS!!
Living 4 a GSW Championship!!!
by GSW9 on Oct 24, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry = Chris Duhon type of player everyone will see!
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by slamson on Oct 24, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Duhon? lol
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by Xero on Oct 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry has potential to become one of the best PG’s in the game. I know Curry still has a long way to go but if Curry continues to improve i can see him putting up Chris Paul numbers as far as points, assits, rebounds, steals because he is very active with his hands and feet
Let’s assume Curry becomes one of the best PG’s in the game. He still won’t be putting up Chris Paul numbers. Chris Paul is the 2nd best player in the NBA right now. This post has nothing to do with Curry whatsoever – just to point out that I think you’re hugely undervaluing just how good Chris Paul is.
by Missing Barry on Oct 25, 2009 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Paul is the 2nd best player in the NBA right now.
I agree with the general point of your comment, just not that part. I’d take Wade and Howard over Paul right now.
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 25, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look through the stats, you’ll find Paul outproduces both of them. Paul actually got more rebounds/36 last year than Wade. Higher TS%. Big difference in points/36 in Wade’s favor, but Paul was racking up more assists/36. More steals, less TO’s for Paul. Wade had more blocks. Overall offensively, according to BR, Paul was worth over 13 wins last year on offense compared to over 10 for Wade. Anyways, I’m sure someone like jae could make the case more convincingly than me, but rest assured, at least statistically, Paul is #2.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a confirmed hoops pedant, I think that sounds a little pedantic, MB. Obviously the numbers, including advanced numbers like WP, adore Paul. At the same time, anecdotally, the list of dominant NBA teams whose best player was 6-foot even is … pretty short. Even though Paul “plays big” (his rebounding in particular is amazing for a guy his size) he’ll always be a stumpy l’il guy with stumpy little arms. Though in general I’m in awe of his play when I watch him, I have noticed on a couple of occasions, in the playoffs in particular, that his stumpy little figure made life just a bit too easy for the opposition.
I’d go along with Sam in taking Howard over Paul: in addition to being the most dominant big man in the league (a title that frequently goes hand-in-hand with championships), I think Howard still has a fair bit of upside, where Paul has probably crammed about all the greatness one can possibly cram into a body that size. I’d probably take Wade over Paul, too … with the caveat that Paul seems more physically durable. Wade’s length allows him to shut down the opposition on the defensive end in a way Paul simply cannot, imo.
I’d also take Garnett, Duncan and Kobe in their primes over Paul as well, and none of those guys is that past his prime. Statistics be hanged, if we’re talking about building a team to win it all, this year only, I’d probably go:
1. LeBron
2. Howard
3. Duncan
4. Garnett
5. Kobe
6. Wade
7. Paul
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kobe? Really?
Maybe I’m allowing my personal distaste for the guy to cloud my judgment, but I don’t think so. I think if you swapped out CP3 for Kobe that Laker team last year would have been even better. If Paul had weapons like Gasol, Bynum, Odom or even Ariza he would have made their offense more efficient. Now clearly Kobe is the better one on one defender, but last year he wasn’t always taking the toughest wing assignments and I don’t expect him to this year either. Not to mention the fact that despite his size Paul manages to rack up a ton of steals (way more than Kobe) and does a pretty good job one on one himself.
Other than that it’s hard to argue with your point that a great big man is more valuable than a great small player. If I was making that list I’d probably keep the top the same but do some tweaking…
1. LeBron
2. Howard
3. Duncan
4. Paul
5. Garnett (his ability to stay healthy at this point worries me, but his scary defensive intensity keeps him on the list)
6. Wade
7. Kobe (Kobe hater? maybe… but lets face it, his numbers don’t stack up and he was on an incredibly talented, well rounded and well coached team)
Assuming the rest of the roster is the same quality for each player that’s probably how I’d take them. Now if I was making a list of who I’d build my franchise around long term I’d put Paul ahead of Duncan. I really think the guy is that good. Maybe the best PG ever by the time his career is over (though I admit it’s still very early to be thinking about that).
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Oct 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah … it’s quite possible that my view of Kobe is being skewed a bit by his last pre-season game, in which he basically toyed with us — got to wherever he wanted on the floor, and converted basically everything he threw up. Previously, I’ve been on GSoM record as saying Gasol is just about as important to that team as Kobe. I’d go so far as to say a team with that ridiculous big man rotation of Gasol-Odom-Bynum is an NBA champion threat even with a replacement-level backcourt (I mean, as it is they’re prohibitive favorites even with one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA).
In Kobe’s defense: as you point out, he can be truly lockdown wing defender; and I don’t really think Paul’s A+ effort and impressive steal totals outweigh that. If Kobe meets Pierce or Allen or Wade in the finals, he can make their lives difficult on the defensive end in a way Paul can’t. It’s a bit like comparing the impact on a game of John Stockton — who was basically a perfect player in every way for his size — to that of Jordan and Pippen. (Though Paul is a much better rebounder than Stockton was).
Again, no knock on Paul at all, whose game I absolutely love. He may already be the among he top 3 PGs ever, with Magic and Stockton. It really is a pure issue of physical dimensions.
But OK, I’ll put Paul a hair above Kobe if you like … and just about even with a healthy Wade. Howard … I just don’t see it, regardless of Wins Produced says.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kobe? Really?
Maybe I’m allowing my personal distaste for the guy to cloud my judgment…
I’m pretty sure I was when I indicated I’d put Paul 4th behind LeBron, Howard, and Wade.
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 26, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, I had to bust out some dictionary.com for that. Not appreciated.
I’d go along with Sam in taking Howard over Paul
I don’t know if you noticed, but I reframed the topic to their statatistical contributions…I did that for a reason – if I was starting a franchise, I’m not sure I would take Paul over Howard (I would over Wade if for no other reason than health concerns). You look at their production though, and I think based on that it’s fair to call Paul the 2nd best player in the NBA (which is the original topic).
As for your this year only list, I can disagree with that – those guys are getting up there in age. Health concerns and declining skills/physical abilities keep them off the top. I agree more with olympicmike, though I might have Paul over Duncan at this point…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, I had to bust out some dictionary.com for that. Not appreciated.
Haha. My pleasure.
I don’t know if you noticed, but I reframed the topic to their statistical contributions…
Right, but initially you said Paul was the “2nd best player in the NBA right now.” If that doesn’t mean “second guy you would want on your team if you were making a one-year run at a title,” then “2nd best” doesn’t mean a lot to me. Until I see Paul wreak some serious havoc in the playoffs (he was damn good in ‘07/08, but I want more) I’m going to imagine that, amazing as he is, his value as Centerpiece of a Championship Team is just a smidgeteenth lower than his gorgeous numbers might indicate.
If we’re talking about a one-year contract with no possibility to renew, I’d personally take Garnett, Duncan, Wade and maybe Kobe over Paul … but just by a hair.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we’re talking about a one-year contract with no possibility to renew, I’d personally take Garnett, Duncan, Wade and maybe Kobe over Paul … but just by a hair.
What about a six year max contract with yearly raises and a player option year?
What about with their current contracts?
We could end up with a lot of lists here. ; )
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Oct 26, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about a six year max contract with yearly raises and a player option year?
1. LeBron / Howard (tie)
3. Paul
4. Roy / Wade (tie)
6. Rose
7. Deron
8. (tie) Randolph, Griffin, Oden, Tyreke, John Wall
Or something…
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
8. (tie) Randolph, Griffin, Oden, Tyreke, John Wall
Might be a bit early to be handing out 6-year max deals to rookies and draft prospects – unless you’re talking max rookie deals. Even Randolph and Oden still have a lot to prove. I’d take Deron ahead of Rose for similar reasons.
Where would you put Durrant on such a list? How about Rondo? I assume that Amar’e, Bosh, Boozer, Harris, B. Lopez are all on the “don’t expect they’ll ever quite be worth a 6 year maximum money deal” list. Whereas your 8th place tie seems like a list of people who have the potential to get there at least (Should that list include Rubio?) And surely you forgot Brandan Wright. ;-)
by toddaverth on Oct 26, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put rondo WAY above Rose
He’s about to have a Jason Kidd type year 14 ppg, 10 appg, 6-7 rpg
by tafkasam on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I love Rondo — totally spaced him. If he could shoot, he’d probably be better than CP3. As it is, I’d rate him roughly equal in overall value to Deron and Rose: take Rondo if you like defense, Deron if you like offense, Rose if you like upside.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might be bias though...
I grabbed rondo way too high in my fantasy bball league. Drafted D-will first round (#9) and Rondo 3rd round (14 team league). But I did make a move to send Deron for DWade, so now i have a very juicy backcourt.
back to reality, 1 thing i do like about rondo, he can’t shoot, but he doesn’t try to either… He stays with in himself, and yes his defense is awesome
by tafkasam on Oct 27, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he could shoot, he’d probably be better than CP3.
Do you really think that? I think that’s a very, very bold/interesting thing to say….
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, everyone take note, it looks like we’re taking on Sleepy’s definition of “best” from now on! ;)
You’re really that confident in Garnett coming off a significant injury like that?
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, everyone take note, it looks like we’re taking on Sleepy’s definition of "best" from now on!
Haha, sounds like a plan. Do you have a better definition?
You’re really that confident in Garnett coming off a significant injury like that?
Not really. But unless he’s really fallen off a whole ton, I think his defense and rebounding gives his team a puncher’s chance to go all the way. Just for fun: I think plugging him in as the Ws’ starting PF gives us a better shot at winning it all this season than making Paul our starting PG. Neither is all that likely, but for one season I think I’d take
Curry
Ellis
Jackson
Garnett
Biedrins
—
Randolph, Turiaf, Morrow, Kelenna
over
Paul
Ellis
Jackson
Randolph
Biedrins
—
Curry, Turiaf, Morrow, Kelenna
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So would I, but I think that is skewed a bit by the fact that we desperately need one more big man, while we have plenty of talented guards (even if neither Monta nor Curry is a proven point guard they are talented enough to do a passable imitation. Turiaf, Maggette, and Moore just doesn’t seem as likely to do a passable imitation of a strong set of backup big men.)
by toddaverth on Oct 26, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s fair to call Paul the 2nd best player in the NBA
Maybe after Lebron and DHo he’s second best player but the little hornet is nowwhere near their worth. Who’s the last short point guard to carry his team to multiple rings anyway?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, we agree, Skep? Is it too late to change my ranking? ;-)
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said
Chris Paul because CP3 gets 20, 5, 10, and 2 a game. IF Curry reaches his full potential is there any reason to believe he can’t get those numbers?
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by GSW9 on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. You also forgot the 60% TS%…
Basically, only a few PG’s in the history of the NBA have been as productive as Paul (and you can argue it’s less than a few). I see no reason to believe Curry has the ability to be one of the greatest of all-time simply because I have yet to see his faults exposed at the NBA level…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF Curry reaches his full potential is there any reason to believe he can’t get those numbers?
Probably. The average guard quality would have have to really go up a lot for others to be as good as CP3 so that’s not likely. What’s the chances that More-O will be another Lebron when he reaches his potential,?or Dre another Dwight Howard?? ? See how it works? Just cause they are warriors don’t mean they can defy the laws of reason.
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On a back porch in July
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
morrow will be the next ray allen
buike is the best lebron (even though he’s older)
by tafkasam on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t know what Curry’s full potential is. There might be a reason or two or three. For one, he’s not uber athletic.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 26, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry could get those numbers and still be nowhere near as good as Paul.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
CURRY CURRY CURRY
Curry is a ballhandler. I have seen many comparisons. I hate to compare him to Marbury though. To me he is more of a T Hardaway. He will only mature with time and improve. Point of the future, now all we need is a true off guard. Maybe Morrow can fill the bill in time.
by 22goose on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting fact I didn't know about Curry:
Heard him on KNBR yesterday. He said in AAU and youth levels pre-college he was always a pass first pg, because he played on talented teams and was smallest player. He said quote “The Coach told me, I need to play PG if I want to be on the court”.
It was then at Davidson where they moved him off ball as he was clearly there best scorer, until his junior year when i’m sure he asked his coach to play PG cause thats where his future lied.
For me that was nice to year, cause like many I believe its REALLY hard to teach PG to a player, you’re either a PG or not. You can’t just teach the vision/leadership/skills that come with it to any guard with decent handles…
all this, accompanied with Nellie’s love of him (and we all know, if there’s one thing the Don knows, its PGs), I think he can be a very good PG in the NBA. Still unsure how high his ceiling is, using CP3 is kind of a stretch, but maybe a jameer nelson/deron williams hybrid. Mike Bibby comparison’s make sense…
by tafkasam on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PREPOSTEROUS. ;-)
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that
but it is great news to hear. And while Curry’s career can go either way right now, i believe his ceiling is probably where Nellie said it was, a 20 and 10 PG
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