Why not Morrow?
Does anyone else find it strange that after Nelson hints at Morrow starting and putting CJ Watson over Stephen Curry that he is sent to the bench as a role player again? I think it's ridiculous cause after one good preseason game Curry is named the starting point guard. Yes he is a great passer but he is not ready to start and and he is not strong enough to guard a two and neither is Monta. Morrow works his butt off all season, plays amazing in the summer league, comes into camp and is always with the first team, is amazing in the preseason and then with one game where Curry found his shot a little more he is demoted. Morrow gives us size, rebounding and of course the best shooter in the game. His game has expanded to the point now that he is able to take people off the dribble. His defense has improved a lot since last year and has the drive about him that was present with the team during the We Believe season. Curry *eventually* should start but just not now. And Ellis actually played very well at point guard in the preseason and seemed very capable of guarding a *point* guard.

That shot went in....
Even Azubukie gives us more size. Are we forgetting that he almost averaged 15 PPG? The truth is that I think Don Nelson was just to tempted not to put in Ellis and Curry and he needs to realize that for now Ammo and Ellis are a better back court then Curry and Ellis. I'm not opposed to starting Curry against certain teams that have smaller guards like a Dallas with Kidd and Terry but against a team like the Lakers with Kobe and Fisher we stand a better chance with Morrow in rather then Curry. His shot has looked bad as well and I know it's preaseason but he seems to be thinking to much when he shoots. I hope Curry proves me wrong and shows me that this lineup can work on a nightly bases but for now I say Anthony Morrow should be our starter.
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I can’t decide between the three, honestly. I honestly wish we could trade either Monta or Curry for an all-starish 2 or 3, so we could have something like this:
Curry or Ellis/CJ/Law
Azubuike/Morrow/Jackson
Kirilenko or Prince?/Jackson
Randolph/Turiaf/Moore
Biedrins/Turiaf/Moore
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by Naticus2 on Oct 25, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Forgot Maggs. I suppose we trade Jackson, too.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 25, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't decide either.
I wouldn’t trade Curry or Monta yet without having seen them play yet. And certainly not if we’re getting back Kirilenko or Prince.
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by kenntoe on Oct 25, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea I’d love to have Kirilenko, but I wouldnt give up Monta or Curry to get him.
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 25, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, my heart says keep them both. If we had a good excuse to move one of them, though, we could get so much better with the right trade. They’re both valuable trade commodities.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 25, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The season is long
If Ammo plays better the others, he will become a starter.
by freerandolph on Oct 25, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
demarcus nelson started the first game of last season, so it’s fair to say that starting lineups on opening day aren’t really set for the rest of the season. there’s no reason to assume that morrow won’t get his shot to start as this team develops an identity. maybe morrow’s the right guy for the starting job, maybe he isn’t. we’ll find out shortly.
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by cap'n hack on Oct 25, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
My guess is defense
Curry is a better defender I think (steals for sure), plus I think that Morrow and Sjax playing together doesn’t work – Morrow needs the ball fed to him and Sjax doesn’t do that much.
I guess our 2nd team for starts is cj/morrow/buike/turiaf, perhaps law in there too as we go small.
by mosdl on Oct 25, 2009 5:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Nellie wants Morrow and Curry playing together ASOP. I wonder how they’re going to sort that out? Curry starts with Ellis, who will demand heavy minutes, and Morrow will be backup 2 for Ellis? Here’s what I see happening. Curry will start for the first 10 min.’s of every game. Azubuike will come in for him. Ellis will play a few minutes with Azubuike. For the rest of the game, Curry will backup Ellis and Morrow will backup Azubuike.
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by Naticus2 on Oct 25, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just another Nellie experiment
I’m not too fussed.. Good luck to Curry. Having Morrow come off the bench is deadly.
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by Xero on Oct 25, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
monta isnt a natural pg..
it was like randy foye playing pg for the wolves before teflair.
we need a natural pg who has that feel for it.
curry has that. without one our offense is just a big high scoring mess.
by GSWBALL on Oct 25, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
. without one our offense is just a big high scoring mess.
that’s better than a small low scoring mess
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 25, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A “small high scoring mess,” most likely, unless Nellie gets it through his fat head that Jackson/Maggette is not an NBA starting forward tandem. The solution to the rotation “mess” is really not that complicated, if you just let your best players play their freaking natural positions.
1 Curry
2 Monta or Morrow
3 Azubuike or Maggs
4 Randolph or Turiaf
5 Biedrins
6th-8th men: the “losers” of the 2-4 battles — but these guys will still get big minutes.
9th man: Jackson, until we can trade him, ideally for a semi-serviceable wing.
10th-12th: CJ, Mikki, Acie
That’s the obvious, sane, rational solution. But of course, when you have “creative” drama-lover like Nellie at coach, you learn not to expect sanity.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 25, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense...
That’s probably how I would set it up. I’m not sure if I would start Curry right away, but I think that line-up would be kind of inevitable once things start to play out.
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Oct 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Motivation
During the preseason from what i saw Monta played his best and hardest when Curry was on the floor. I think Nellie is doing this to bring out the best in Monta to push him to the next level.
Before preseason Monta was saying everyone needs to take responsibility and he cant take over but now he saying this team is going to be as good as he can push them as a captain. He’s starting to feel pressure on the court and i bet Nellie is banking on it making us better.
Morrow will get his 20-30 minutes a game you cant keep a hot hand like that off the court you just can’t.
by Warriorfan on Oct 25, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I noticed the same thing. He probably just feels more motivated to keep pace with someone he sees as potentially taking his job.
by randolphforpresident on Oct 25, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its about minutes, not starts.
I wouldn’t be the least bit suprised to see Morrow with more minutes than Curry or Monta by the end of the game.
I’m hoping that AR is healthy for wed so he can start at the 4.
by myk on Oct 25, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This starting lineup is making sense to me for Wed against Houston.
They play in Portland the night before, and they’re missing some key players. Nellie is probably hoping that a starting lineup of Curry, Monta, Jack, Maggs, and Goose will run the rockets out of the game. He wants to put the pressure on Houston to match our offesnive output. We’ll see how that works out.
by myk on Oct 25, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But as my comment above states, I hope AR is healthy. I still prefer Maggs off the bench.
by myk on Oct 25, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So does everyone
But even if AR can play, they might limit his minutes for him to recover and to make sure he heals up right
by mosdl on Oct 25, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe with Randolph's injury
and Magg’s starting in his place @ the 4, they just needed someone reliable coming off the bench
by Dr. Orpheus on Oct 25, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dubzfan, don't worry
Morrow and Curry will play similar minutes. To argue that Morrow is much more experienced than Curry is ludicrous. Curry was starring in far bigger games than Morrow in college.
Plus, Ellis is a 2, so Ellis and Morrow starting together just doesnt’ make sense. Curry is our most true point guard. period. He needs to play so that our best weapons can get open looks, Morrow included.
by eastbayglory on Oct 25, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Starter...Schmarter....!
It’s not who starts the game but who finishes.
These three guys will get minutes based upon who’s got the hot hand. The big difference is that Curry THINKS like a point guard wheras Ellis and Morrow …have other strengths. I would not worry about these guys too much except for defensive matchups. Now that Nelson is implementing his zone defenses, the deficiencies of Morrow and Ellis will be minimized to a degree.
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by Gerard on Oct 25, 2009 7:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You going by what Nelson says?
NEVER do that. You don’t know what mind game he’s playing. Is he telling it straight? Protecting a player? Sending out an erroneous message to the next opponent? Pulling the media guy’s chain? HELPING the media guy write a column?
I always take what Nelson says as ‘intended for entertainment purposes only.’
by breaker on Oct 25, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Curry is our most true point guard. period. He needs to play so that our best weapons can get open looks, Morrow included.
How is More-O gonna get looks if Curr-bury takes his starting spot?
This is not about talent , it’s about nellie selling out to the PR guys. We’ve got a lot of soft fans that wanna see " the college scoring champion" not realizing that he played in a weak conference with no other real scorers on his team to compete with him.
If the little Spice came in and earned the spot by out playing Montay and CJ for a whole NBA season then it would be legit, right now it just looks sad. It says we are being used by the management again, that ticket sales are the driver this year instead of winning games.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 25, 2009 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line, you need a highly-reliable ball handler and passer on the floor as much as possible. Turnovers by somewhat shaky ballhandlers/passers (Jack last season) killed us in numerous games.
I don’t think that anybody can deny at this point that Curry is clearly the best dribbler/ball handler and passer on the team. Those skills just do not come naturally to Monta or Morrow.
As far as advocating for CJ to start: why? That just makes zero sense to me. What are you hoping to accomplish by having CJ start? Maybe get a couple more wins this year? He isn’t in our long term plans. He is just as small as Curry and plays horrible defense, so he its not like he helps us there.
by randolphforpresident on Oct 25, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Ellis and Jackson turn the ball over a lot and it would be easier having Curry handle the point. Curry also has excellent court vision and it will help our other scorers get better looks.
Morrow can come in off the bench and score. Don’t see him getting to many crunch time minutes as he can’t defend his man.
by ajtrinc on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as advocating for CJ to start: why?
I’m not advocating him to start but he does have more NBA court time than Curr-bury so I expect him to be more useful for now.
The plan was stated to have Montay play point so why not stick to it? We never get and continuity of game or objective. Seems like they just like to jerk us around or else they have no concept of planning and execution?
Their goal looks like it’s constantly get new “potential” players and sell tickets to those who are sucked into the hype then when that wears down get another new distraction? Over the past few years it’s been Montay, Wright, Marco, Rudolf, Morrow, and now Curr-bury?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
terrible logic
I’m not advocating him to start but he does have more NBA court time than Curr-bury so I expect him to be more useful for now.
Devean George about as much NBA court time as Anthony Randolph, Steph Curry, Anthony Morrow, Monta Ellis, and Brandan Wright combined…………
Thing A
by sam23 on Oct 26, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
… and you actually think Skeptic would sooner start Rudolf, Montay, Curr-bury, or More-O than Devean George…? C’mon man, George has three championship rings!
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 26, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Fisher, George has the rare ability to find teammates who can win championships. That’s a winner right there, and losers like Garnett who only have 1 championship should be taking lessons…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you actually think Skeptic would sooner start ....
um, you of all of us should know better than to start down that rabbit hole!
by hardcore on Oct 26, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devean George about as much NBA court time as Anthony Randolph, Steph Curry, Anthony Morrow, Monta Ellis, and Brandan Wright combined…………
I’m not talkin about George here, it’s about Montay and Curr-bury and the constant changing of the plans. CJ can back up either one of them so CJ is not the issue, just a casualty of it. You guys seem as scatterbrained as our management sometimes? Did y’all take the same focus class?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The plan was stated to have Montay play point so why not stick to it?
Perhaps because it is not the best plan.
by jae on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps because it is not the best plan.
We’ll never know if we never follow thru on a plan. Constantly changing the plan is not a plan for success.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or perhaps
this was one more of Nelson’s blowing smoke in the wind ala Dunleavy a “natural” 4 … I fell for it, a Monta-Jax backcourt with a bigger front line sounded good, well, while it lasted
by hardcore on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Yeah, a preseason of Jack mouthing off and Curry looking like a real PG really erased the idea of the Monta/Jack backcourt pretty quickly.
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Oct 27, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me?
he was a great scorer. nothing can take that away from him. maybe you didn’t watch the ncaa tourney, because he played against top notch teams and still destroyed them as the only average scoring option.
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by montadaboss on Oct 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you didn’t watch the ncaa tourney,
No, I only watch pro basketball but I’ve heard lots of great college players turn into NBA busts so what’s your point?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard lots of great college players turn into NBA busts
Some, but nowhere as many as don’t turn into NBA busts. I think that was his point.
Here, check out ESPN’s list of the Top 25 Greatest College Players of All-Time.
1. Lew Alcindor
2. Oscar Robertson
3. Bill Walton
4. Bill Russell
5. Pete Maravich
6. Jerry West
7. Bill Bradley
8. David Thompson
9. Larry Bird
10. Wilt Chamberlain
11. Jerry Lucas
12. Christian Laettner
13. Michael Jordan
14. Elvin Hayes
15. Magic Johnson
16. Patrick Ewing
17. Tom Gola
18. Ralph Sampson
19. Elgin Baylor
20. Bob Kurland
21. Tim Duncan
22. Austin Carr
23. Calvin Murphy
24. David Robinson
25. George Mikan
Some of those guys actually went on to have decent pro careers. I mean, except for that Lew Alcindor dude … whatever happened to him?…
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here, check out ESPN’s list ?
Haha, I don’t see Curr-bury on there so what are they getting all hot about?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 27, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curr-bury’s his Muslim name. His original name was Lew Alcindor.
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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a bunch of rubbish there,
He showed all preseason he’s our best option at PG. The shot falling is not whats important from him. Its about not forcing his j. Curry makes the game easier for the rest of our guys, Monta cannot. Thats why you start Curry against this matchup. This aint gonna always be our starting backcourt but against trevor ariza and aaron brooks it makes sense. Neither one of them is a superstar and even though ariza has size he’s not a great 1on1 player so curry or monta should be able to handle him. If azubuike doesn’t play than Morrow will get plenty of minutes at the 2 and 3 so his pt will be fine. Besides this kid is concerned with winning, not who’s starting. He gonna ball regardless! Lets go dubs!
by pre10d on Oct 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Deal
Curry might start for one game depending how he does.
Didn’t DeMarcus Nelson start for us as well, how long did that last?
I don’t like Morrow in the line-up, but off the bench for fire power yes.
Would like Azubuike instead.
PG:Monta/Curry
SG: Jack/Morrow
SF:Azubuike/Mags
PF:Randolph/Mags/Moore
C: Beans/Turiaf
by synyster1gates on Oct 25, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm suprised by the voting
I thought it’d be more even on all fronts but woah.
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by dubzfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bring Morrow off the bench for depth and instant offense.
by jpees on Oct 25, 2009 11:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kelenna
he gives us what we need size rebounding defense
We have enough scorers, we can store fine, we need defenders to stop the scorers on the other team.
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by Mike Fox on Oct 26, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The question shouldn’t be whether Curry starts over Morrow, but should Monta sit for Morrow? The safe decision is to start Monta, your 11M/year guy.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If by that you mean, the safe decision is to start the much better player, than I’d have to agree.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant that but also from a political, PR POV, the Warriors would be stupid to start Morrow over Monta given:
1) that would make Monta unhappy
2) the W’s invested 11M/year in Monta
Well, what about Maggette? He makes 10M a year and he comes off the bench. Well, he doesn’t mind coming off the bench as the 6th man and he’s also more versatile than Morrow…in other words, Maggette is also better than Morrow.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 26, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just look at it from a basketball perspective – it makes sense to start Monta since he’s better, and it makes sense not to start Maggette because he’s a black hole (though a very efficient one). His skills do better with the 2nd team (that can’t score as well as the 1st)…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) that would make Monta unhappy
This might be valid. It would make Monta unhappy, though if Morrow were to give the team a better shot at winning, Monta’s happiness should be a lesser concern.
2) the W’s invested 11M/year in Monta
And this is true whether or not he plays, starts, takes up dangerous action sports.
by jae on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might be valid. It would make Monta unhappy, though if Morrow were to give the team a better shot at winning, Monta’s happiness should be a lesser concern.
In a perfect world, it should be a lesser concern, but the way the Warriors handle disruptions is pretty bad. Not only that, local and now national media will completely trounce on the front office and coach for how they made Monta unhappy. This is on the presumption that the Warriors will have a losing season regardless of who’s starting, which is a good presumption at this point.
Starting lineups with Nellie are insignificant in the big picture anyway. If he’s going to have success, it will be on mismatches. To state the obvious.
And this is true whether or not he plays, starts, takes up dangerous action sports.
And from a business perspective, the Warriors as a whole are obligated to see an immediate return on investment.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 27, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only that, local and now national media will completely trounce on the front office and coach for how they made Monta unhappy.
Probably true, but why does this matter?
And from a business perspective, the Warriors as a whole are obligated to see an immediate return on investment.
This gets into a common problem of confusing an investment with a sunk cost.
by jae on Oct 27, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably true, but why does this matter?
Because it is both a reflection and result of the dysfunction that starts at the top. I guess if it’s not this, it’ll be something else to take its place. There is absolutely no reason to be optimistic with Cohan in place. Sure, the product on the floor may look good for a season or two and a short time after that, but in the end, Cohan is still here to f*ck it all up.
This gets into a common problem of confusing an investment with a sunk cost.
HAHA, we’ll see!
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 27, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems to me it all revolves around monta
if he can play pg we will play either buike/jack or morrow/jack at the swing positions. but the Don doesn’t seem to believe Monta can play extended PG minutes. This means moving monta off ball thus losing a starting spot for buike or morrow.
To me its not that important. They will see time and whoever is playing well will finish the game. The lineup will rotate for a while as we don’t have a cast in place starting 5.
by tafkasam on Oct 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The question shouldn’t be whether Curry starts over Morrow, but should Monta sit for Morrow? The safe decision is to start Monta, your 11M/year guy.
So you are saying start a rookie unproven guard over the NBA’s reigning 3 point shooting percentage champion?
What happened to the plan to play Montay at the point? Did they see more hype from playing Del Curry lite? Montay’s well, Morrow’s established, why dick it up without tryin it first?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, no, that's not what I'm saying...
I’m saying that Curry at PG is a no-brainer. And there would be pandemonium if Morrow started over Monta, our supposed franchise player.
But if we’re talking Curry vs. Morrow. That’s also a no brainer. Curry all the way. He plays a vital position and he has proven he can handle it. If Morrow suddenly became Magic Johnson, then I’d say Morrow over Curry, but Morrow is just a 3-point specialist at this point.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He plays a vital position and he has proven he can handle it.
I musta missed a season cause I could swear this one hasn’t started yet? So Curr-bury proved he can play in the NBA while I was away? How did More-O follow up his league leading season then?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me rephrase then
He plays a vital position. Morrow does not. It doesn’t matter what Morrow did last year. My original point was, it’s not Curry over Morrow, it’s Monta over Morrow.
If you’re that naive to think that Curry isn’t the best PG on the team, then I’m wasting my time trying to convince you.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 27, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re that naive to think that Curry isn’t the best PG on the team
I’ll think Curr-bury is the best point guard on our team when he’s proved it for a year or two. Right now he’s behind everyone else who’s actually played a season for us.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 27, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll think Curr-bury is the best point guard on our team when he’s proved it for a year or two. Right now he’s behind everyone else who’s actually played a season for us.
I get what you’re saying but IMO that is a flawed logic. I don’t think it will take a year or two to figure out he should or shouldn’t be ahead of others. That’s what training camp and pre-season games are for, so you can figure it out before.
With your logic, Nellie should limit Curry’s minutes/role because he’s a rookie, but if Nellie thinks Curry is going to give the Warriors the best chance to win, why argue with that? You’re arguing that Morrow, a 3-point specialist who is going to rely on others to get him the ball in order to be effective, start over Curry, a PG who can distribute the ball to anyone on the court.
It is obvious that Curry (I don’t get why you call him Curr-bury) possesses the talent and skill to be the best PG on the team based on scouting reports from those who watched him in college, pre-draft workouts, training camp, and pre-season games. He doesn’t have to play an entire year for me to see that on a Warriors roster that has no other proven true PG, he is ahead of everyone in that category.
I’m talking about the PG position. You’re saying Morrow, a SG, should start over Curry, a PG, because he lead the league in 3FG% and he’s played a year in the NBA and the team.
That leaves us with two SG’s in the starting backcourt. No amount of 3FG% is going to help the team move the ball around efficiently.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get why you call him Curr-bury
Skep. got some bizarre “Curry/Marbury” thread running through his logically deprived head and decided try it, then to wear the idea out. It’s a meaningless, not particularly clever comment worthy of something between completely ignoring and outright ridicule, but he’s married to it at this point.
by jae on Oct 27, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: not particularly clever comment worthy of something between completely ignoring and outright ridicule, but he’s married to it at this point.
It sounds to me like you’re describing your own bizarre love-affair with repeatedly making the same “compliment/complement” joke.
Those who beat glass horses should not throw stones. Or something like that . . .
I give pressure the reach-around.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Oct 27, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
worthy of something between completely ignoring and outright ridicule, but he’s married to it at this point.
Hm, sounds like a pretty accurate description of the way we all feel about this website…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
That’s great. Rec for knowing my <3
Thing 2
by olympicmike on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m talking about the PG position. You’re saying Morrow, a SG, should start over Curry, a PG, because he lead the league in 3FG% and he’s played a year in the NBA and the team.
Exactly, Montay was planning to play point so we could play a bigger 2 guard such as More-O or I’z-a-blue-kitty and now they sudden tear up the plan and decide to play a small point and a small 2 . I’m sayin the first plan with experienced players made some game sense but the change of plan looks like a sell out to the pr folks desires to showcase the golden rookie?
If Curr-bury( how many dudes are called step-on that wanted to go to new york are there anyway?) is the real deal let him earn it like Montay and More-O have already done, I don’t think we’ll get anywhere alienating our players that way.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 27, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Curr-bury( how many dudes are called step-on that wanted to go to new york are there anyway?) is the real deal let him earn it like Montay and More-O have already done, I don’t think we’ll get anywhere alienating our players that way.
Your definition of “earning it” is playing a full NBA season (or two). Perhaps leave it up to the guys who coach and evaluate the team on a daily basis to make a change in the game plan.
That game plan that you refer to was the one before they knew Curry would fall to them.
Monta is NOT a PG. Monta is better than Morrow. Curry should be the starting PG.
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by Doctor Kajita on Oct 27, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm huge morrow and buike fan
but bottom line we need some kind of PG in there. Monta is not a true PG. Curry technically isn’t either but he’s working the court like he is one and thats what we need. We need to get the ball moving better.
This problem is just going to back the fact that we have so many guards each with something to offer. But I don’t doubt that morrow will probably end up with more minutes.
by pamboat on Oct 26, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Curry technically isn’t either
Technically, what makes someone one…? If he’s playing like one, as you seem to imply, then what techinicality is he lacking…?
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, curry has the genetic makeup of a 2 guard, but was cursed with the height of an NBA point guard and now seems to be playing like one as well, but that doesn’t change what his genes say!
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Oct 26, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, curry has the genetic makeup of a 2 guard, but was cursed with the height of an NBA point guard and now seems to be playing like one as well, but that doesn’t change what his genes say!
I wasn’t aware that “2 guard” was a heritable condition. Is it a single locus or complex trait?
by jae on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah just trying to say he was more of a 2 guard. Well he started off as a 2 guard and then changed to a Point. Just didn’t want to say curry has always been a true point, but he’s damn well is showing it!
by pamboat on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t aware that "2 guard" was a heritable condition
or that he’s the offspring of a 2 guard? (but without pop’s height so maybe that makes him a point?)
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His dad
said Curry was playing PG his whole life. When he went to Davidson he started playing SG so that could explain his seemingly natural point skills
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PF: Anthony Randolph
PG: Stephen Curry
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by GSW9 on Oct 26, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are some questions that not even pseudo-science can answer, jae. give me some time and a “research” grant and i’ll get on making up a plausible story as soon as possible.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Oct 26, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that Morrow is better off of the bench
Which is not a knock against him – I love Morrow, he might be my favorite player. BUT, I think that he thrives in the gunner role, which suits him off of the bench. I think he matches up better against second units (for now). I also think that he doesn’t need to be in the game at the beginning to be hot – he’s proved that plenty. I think that his energy off the bench is something that you need to keep, and that he fits in well with the second unit. I have no qualms playing him with some of the starters during the game, but let the boy shoot off the bench.
I think that Curry is not always the answer as a starter, I actually like Buike in that role, but wouldn’t be opposed to starting Curry, Ellis, Buike, AR and Beans. Curry is the most favorable distributor we have, and I think he makes Ellis, AR and Beans better.
by savagebenx2 on Oct 26, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really think it comes down to Monta’s PG skills, if they were better, I believe he would be starting at that position instead of Curry.
Amy Mainzer my brain thinks your brain is HOT!
by cybermaldonado on Oct 26, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Curry delivers, here is what I want to see
Curry at point with Monta on the wing as a scoring threat in a number of ways, then Monta slides to the point and AMMO comes in at wing so you have the Monta AMMO 1+2 punch.
Defense will suffer, but we will have stretches where you cant stop us from scoring.
by warriorsvictim on Oct 27, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this makes sense to me
monta/curry
Buike/morrow
Jack/maggs
Turiaf/beans/Moore rotation at 4/5 hopefully we can avoid maggs at the 4 but you know it’s coming.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Oct 27, 2009 11:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Randolph to the D-League?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 27, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about Wednesday. Randolph is out as far as I know.
With our full lineup, I like this:
Monta
Buike
Jack
Randolph
Biedrins
Curry
Morrow
Maggs
Turiaf
Moore
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Oct 27, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The irritating thing...
is that our 2nd team would give our first team a serious run for their money.
Blessing and a curse, I suppose.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Oct 27, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm is it just me or has Monta been taking a lot of bad shots? 1st game he scored 26 points 10-20 from the field, but a lot of missed shots have been bad ones. Second game he just kept taking 5 feet jump shots and missed most of them. Anyways, I think the guy that has been most consistent is Stephen Curry. His stats aren’t that impressive, but he’s a rookie and he looks good out there. So for the starting lineup, I wouldn’t take him out because he seems to be a better PG than Monta is. I’m fine with the starting lineup as it is, it’s just the 1-2 guard combo of Curry and Ellis is a bit too small. I know this sounds crazy because Ellis is better than Curry at scoring and is way more paid but if I had to choose a starting lineup that moved Curry or Ellis to the bench, it’d be:
PG – Curry
SG – Jackson
SF – Azubuike
PF – Randolph
C – Biedrins
PG/SG – Ellis
SG – Morrow
SF – Maggette
PF/C – Turiaf.
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by DubsFan408 on Nov 1, 2009 4:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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