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Live-Tweeting from Row 8!!! (GSoM's Charity Auction seats)

Dear GSoM community,

I know that Fantasy Junkie and Atma Brother ONE have been Twitter-averse in the past, but I actually got their permission to try and see if we can find new value out of live-tweeting. I thought doing this from their very own Row 8 season tickets would be the perfect setting to do this.

I'm no expert on Twitter, but I do think there is more to it than when Atma says, "The world dumbed down to 140 characters." (haha! Maybe true, but...?) On the flipside, I think it could actually enhance your real-time game experience.

Now, for those of you who are avid Game Thread commenters, I'm not sure that Twitter adds a whole lot of value to what you're already doing except if the guy who is tweeting is actually at the game vs also watching the game on TV, but remember what you're doing: you're typing on a computer while watching the game on TV, or online, or radio, or similar. It's great that GSoM will get like 2,000 comments tomorrow night, but I don't know, I tend to think that Game Thread commenters are actually a minority of all GSoM'ers, and 500+ will already be at the game.

I know that there's http://mobile.goldenstateofmind.com, but I just think commenting on any website using my smartphone is just kind of clunky. For me, I'd need to make sure I'm tapping the right place on my smartphone browser -- just too much work. The Twitter way of sending a text message is a lot easier.

I'd like to find out how the community feels about this, but first let me explain Twitter in the easiest way possible, at least as I know it (after the jump!)...

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...So here is what Twitter allows you to do:

 

  • The simplest use of Twitter is what you've heard in the news. If you're at some place that's important (or if you're a celebrity), you can tell the world what's happening at your place of importance without the need to pull out a laptop and login to a blog. You can just send a 140-character tweet with your phone, and the people who want to know what's happening will get that news via text messages on their phone. So if you're not there and you want to know what it's like to be there, Twitter is beneficial for you. Note: it will not be humanly possible to do a strict play-by-play; the best place for that is still NBA.com or ESPN.com (more on this later).
  • Now here's the fun part. You can send what are called @replies ("at-replies") to the guy who's tweeting. Of course, you have to be a registered Twitter user to do this. People can tweet a reply/comment to my tweets; then I can tweet a reply to the reply/comment, and everyone will see the conversation (sort of, more on this later).

In essence, it's like having the Game Thread available on your phone. But there are pros and cons with Live Tweeting From The Game vs The Game Thread. Here are some that I have thought of thus far:

Where the Game Thread is better than Twitter:

 

  1. The ability to see ALL user comments
  2. You can type a message of any length, not restricted to 140 characters
  3. Can initiate a conversation with anybody else currently logged into the Game Thread

 

Where Twitter is better than the Game Thread:

  1. No need to be on a computer, but you do need at least a regular phone that has free text messaging
  2. Easier to type a message and send, although it is restricted to 140 characters
  3. Can get quality "what's happening" content without having any access to the game
  4. Easier to have a conversation with the person who is live-tweeting

 

The all-user-comments-of-Game-Threads vs conversation-with-Live-Tweeter thing explained: I'm sure you all "get" how to look at the Game Thread, post a comment, and see your comment along with the others. That's been here since Web 1.0 discussion boards. What's unique (good/bad?) about Twitter is that using the aforementioned @replies, it's like the Live-Tweeter is the hub and the people who reply are the spokes. You, as the replier, can't "see" (unless you have a cool smartphone Twitter app) other repliers' conversations with the Live-Tweeter, but you can see what the Live-Tweeter says in response to the replier. Hope that made sense.

However, since I know this is a possible built-in limitation of Twitter, I will do my very best to sort of give context to every @reply I give, so that in a way, every conversation I have with someone who replies will be shared a little bit.

I know what I just wrote above is confusing. So let's take an example. Let's pretend the Twitter username for me, the Live-Tweeter at Opening Night, is @gsom. [NOTE: This handle is already taken. Atma, FJ, and I will figure out what handle to use. My only beef with the existing @unstoppablebaby is that it is a chore for followers to type in that whole handle on your cellphone if all you want to do is type a quick reply.]

 

  • So, let's say Monta goes after a ball careening out of bounds, leaps over a few rows of seats and lands near our seats.
  • I'll tweet something like: "Wow, Monta just chased a ball out of bounds, landed near us. He looks hurt :-("
  • If you've "followed" @gsom and set your Twitter account to hook up to your cellphone, you will see the following tweet as a text message on your cellphone: "gsom: Wow, Monta just chased a ball out of bounds, landed near us. He looks hurt :-("
  • You're watching the game on TV and you can't quite see Monta on the screen, he's buried in the crowd.
  • Let's say you are Joe Schmoe and your Twitter handle is @joeschmoe. You tweet this: "@gsom: What do you see? Does he look like he's in pain?"
  • NOTE: Nobody else following the @gsom handle can see what you, @joeschmoe, just tweeted back, unless they happen to have a cool Twitter app on their smartphone which allows them to "click around" to other Twitter users' tweets.
  • Unbeknownst to you, another user with the handle @janedoe tweets something similar: "@gsom: How far is he from you? Did he twist an ankle or a knee?"
  • Meanwhile, the TV broadcast breaks to a commercial. People watching the game on TV cannot possibly know the status of Monta's potential injury real-time.
  • During the commercial break, you get my next tweet: "gsom: @joeschmoe @janedoe Monta's not hurt. He got up and jogged back to court."
  • I've essentially replied to Joe and Jane's tweets by including the @ symbol and their usernames in my tweet, which is a good idea in case other people want to know where the current conversation is coming from. FYI, if more than a few people are asking the same thing, obviously I'll probably skip the @username thing.
  • But when you want to join the conversation, you must include the at-reply and my username. So in this example, you must put @gsom before every tweet because I will automatically see any tweet that has @gsom in it.

Incidentally, you can use the web-based version of Twitter to search on keywords. So in the above example, you actually could see all the conversations going into and out of @gsom if you have a smartphone and do a keyword search on "@gsom" (this is just an example, we don't really have the @gsom handle!).

  • TV broadcast comes back from commercial and shows a replay of Monta getting up and jogging back to the court.
  • My next tweet: "gsom: Curry and Acie are at the table gonna check in, 3-guard small ball if Monta stays"
  • My next tweet: "gsom: Crowd cheers, now that they see Steph at the table"

 

I hope I've illustrated the benefits (and limitations) of Twitter. I think people expect Twitter to be something that's everything to everybody, and people get disappointed when it's not. To curb some of the limitations of Twitter, as well as re-enhance its benefits, I plan to:

 

  1. Begin the Live-Tweet as soon as I arrive at the arena for shootaround.
  2. Answer as many @replies as possible.
  3. Check the Game Thread on my smartphone during timeouts.
  4. Try to tweet things that aren't readily apparent from someone not also at the game.

 

I also plan not to do any play-by-play per se (because it's really not possible as the action is way too fast for typing on a cellphone), so if you're one of those people who is out of the country and can't see or hear the game, or even if you have no access to the rote play-by-play on NBA.com or ESPN.com, my tweets will be the best you got. That being said, I'll occasionally tweet out the score when there's a few minutes of dead time, just in case.

If you've read this far, congratulations, because I'm giving away the other ticket I won!!! Just post a comment below what your Twitter username is, then tweet me @poormanscommish and I'll give the ticket to the person who has the most Warrior fans followers. How can I tell if you have the most Warriors worriers in your follower list? Well, I'll do a little research, but certainly the absolute number of followers will figure into the equation.

OK, so I was wondering how you all feel about this Live-Tweeting thing. Any questions, please leave a comment...

Poll
How do you feel about the Live-Tweeting idea?
Yes, let's do it!
20 votes
Hmm, I don't know yet
6 votes
Nah
16 votes
I still don't get it
9 votes

51 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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Tweeting is only useful if they dont broadcast the games, eg. preseason, summer league. But for reg season, I don’t see much use for it…

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by JustSomeName on Oct 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

knock yourself out

   but it seems like a distraction to enjoying those sweet seats to me?

Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

So I was actually thinking about doing this too

The next game I attended. But as Atma Bro pointed out to me – who cares what I think or have to say?

In all seriousness, good idea and I hope this works out. You’ll be close enough to see some fine details so let the world know. In this high tech world, we should be able to link up your tweets to the open thread (cough cough…SBN Nation tech team…) but for the moment, I’ll have my twitter account open just for you!

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by R Dizzle on Oct 27, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I have a twitter but rarely use it...I'm more of a facebook person

But I will check it out when or IF I get the time. I definitely need to figure out how to set up my twitter account so I could get messages on my phone.

And also btw, I take offense to this comment of yours!:

I tend to think that Game Thread commenters are actually a minority of all GSoM’ers, and 500+ will already be at the game.

We make this website alive, ya know, while the rest of you guys are at the scene. Come on now, we demand respect! lol

Strangers have the best candy. Happy Halloween!

by girltothemax on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

didn't mean to offend anyone, let me put it this way...

No doubt that those who do post something to the Game Threads are adding value to each other and GSoM as a whole. I was just purely guessing/speculating that not everyone in the total reach of the GSoM community logs in during a game and comments on the Game Thread. Maybe Atma or FJ has actual numbers?

Per Atma, there will probably be 2,000 comments posted on tomorrow night’s Game Thread. How many total GSoM’ers is that? 4 comments per commenter? So that’s 500 unique commenters? I dunno, just totally randomly guessing. I’m just thinking that if you comment on the Game Thread, you’re likely to post more than one comment and maybe you post 4 comments.

Secondly, I know that 500 GSoM’ers will be at the game. I’m also willing to speculate that very very few, almost a neglible amount, actually comment from their cellphone on the mobile version of GSoM. Therefore, let’s say that there is zero people who will be commenting on the Game Thread out of the 500 who will attend GSoM Night.

So my question is, how do we engage the 500 who will attend GSoM Night and not be commenting on the Game Thread? How do we engage the X% of GSoM’ers who won’t have their laptops out during the TV broadcast?

Maybe the 500 at GSoM Night don’t need anything additional to their in-game experience? That’s fine. Maybe the X% watching the game on TV but not simultaneously on their laptop just wanna watch the game the old-fashioned way. That’s okay too. But it’s already a proven fact that the Game Thread adds to the experience of the people watching TV who also like to have their laptops out.

I only know my own personal experience. I was upset when I couldn’t find anybody live-tweeting the preseason Suns vs Warriors game at Indian Wells while I was out doing obligatory family stuff.

And when I watch a game on TV, I like to kick back on the couch and leave my laptop in the other room. But I’d sure as heck wanna observe/contribute to some kind of common stream of discussion using my phone.

Come to think of it, this comment I just posted really should have been the post itself! Ah well, we’ll see. It’s not like it’s a huge loss if the live-tweet thing doesn’t work.

And if anyone else is going to be live-tweeting from the game, post a comment with your Twitter handle so we can follow each other there, just for kicks.

I’ll talk to FJ and we’ll figure out which handle to use. We’ll post an update.

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by Poor Man's Commish on Oct 27, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm more of a facebook person

  esos perros afortunados

Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 27, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

500 unique commenters?

Well…actually.. I think there’s only 10 – 15 of us posting on game threads. I prolly could name all of them within 2 minutes. I love all of ’em.

Btw, nice job on the fanpost, dreamleague. I definitely learned more about twittering from this one than from the website itself!

Strangers have the best candy. Happy Halloween!

by girltothemax on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

oops the "reply" failed

my apologies

Strangers have the best candy. Happy Halloween!

by girltothemax on Oct 27, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

oops the "reply" failed

  haha, mine too. I guess “reply” is broken

Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It sounds good in theory

but it depends on what people write in their tweets. If it’s informative and game related and stuff not usually caught on camera, then that would be useful. But if people are going “check out the hot chick in row 9”, then it’s just more noise I’d have to filter out as I watch the game to try to figure out what the players, opponents, and coaches are doing.

Anyway, I’ve made a home for myself on the game threads. I’m already watching TV, skimming through the game thread, and watching the yahoo box score. That’s plenty of info for me to sift through during a game.

by IQofaWarrior on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions  

To participate in tonight's live-tweet conversation...

1. Register an account at Twitter.com if you haven’t done so already.
2. Once you are logged in, click on the “Following” link in the upper righthand area.
3. Click on the “Add or Invite More” link.
4. Click on the “Find On Twitter” tab.
5. Enter “unstoppablebaby” (no quotes).
6. Click on the “Follow” button.
7. To set all tweets to be text msg’d to you, click on the “Settings” link in upper right.
8. Click on the “Devices” tab and follow the instructions there.
9. You must now go back to the “Following” section.
8. After clicking on the “Following” link, click on the cellphone icon to the right of “unstoppablebaby”. You will now get each tweet from @unstoppablebaby sent to your cellphone, (hopefully) real-time.

To participate in the real-time conversation as you are receiving tweets from unstoppablebaby, simply send a reply back to the text message you receive and start the reply off with "unstoppablebaby" (no quotes, all one word), then a space, then type the remainder of your tweet.

“@unstoppablebaby” plus one space is 17 characters long, so you will only have 140 minus 17 = 123 characters remaining to say something in your tweet back to @unstoppablebaby.

If any of this didn’t make sense, just post a comment and I’ll try to answer your question. Thanks!

P.S. As I write this, it appears that Twitter is overflowing with capacity and you get an error message saying the Twitter is “over-stressed”, preventing you from following anyone. I don’t know, maybe too many people tweeting about the Bay Bridge? You will simply have to wait a little bit and refresh the page, then do your search on the “unstoppablebaby” username to follow it.

Poor Man's Commish - newly relaunched!... http://dreamleague.org/blog

by Poor Man's Commish on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

that was weird

The comment above had some weird HTML stuff going on, so let me rewrite the final 4 paragraphs…

To participate in the real-time conversation as you are receiving tweets from “unstoppablebaby”, simply send a reply back to the text message you receive and start by typing “@unstoppablebaby” (no quotes, all one word), then a space, then type the remainder of your tweet.

"@unstoppablebaby" plus one space is 17 characters long, so you will only have 140 minus 17 = 123 characters remaining to say something in your tweet back to @unstoppablebaby.

If any of this didn’t make sense, just post a comment and I’ll try to answer your question. Thanks!

P.S. As I write this, it appears that Twitter is overflowing with capacity and you get an error message saying the Twitter is "over-stressed", preventing you from following anyone. I don’t know, maybe too many people tweeting about the Bay Bridge? You will simply have to wait a little bit and refresh the page, then do your search on the "unstoppablebaby" username to follow it.

Poor Man's Commish - newly relaunched!... http://dreamleague.org/blog

by Poor Man's Commish on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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